Trump’s America

[TwiceHorn 31438]

6 minutes ago, softlynow said:

What world are you living in? You keep acting like rules and norms mean something anymore. 

Nothing about my post indicates that rules or norms mean anything.  Quite the opposite, it assumes thunderdome.  A thunderdome where Trump is out of the picture sooner rather than later.  GOP is going to have to find other ways to cling to power.  How will they do it?

I think short term, they continue to kowtow to him out of fear of some form of retribution.  Longer term, I'm not so sure.

Edited November 6 by TwiceHorn

[softlynow 1812]

3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Ok.

Also I think it's important for Trump supporters to see how this plays out today and coming days. 

- Kamala will concede

- Outside of the fringe, no one is going to say the election is rigged

- You will see a lot of sadness, not violence. 

I hope they absorb this and reflect, however unlikely. 

It won’t matter. These are despicable people. They’ve been telling you this for years. Start believing them. 

[Hefeweizen 5310]

3 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

I know I’m stating the obvious: this is who America is. We were always a fundamentally center right country, and we are moving further right.  This isn’t a bunch of dumb people who got tricked into a second Trump term. The country does not agree with the Democratic Party. 
 

He won a landslide. This is about as close to the 1932 election in reverse as you are likely to get. The Democrats need to look at who they are.

Agree 100 percent.  It was also a pocket book election.  People feel poorer than they were.  It doesn’t really matter why, they blame the person in charge.  I don’t think it’s any more complicated than that.

[Frank Drebin 5654]

Just now, softlynow said:

It won’t matter. These are despicable people. They’ve been telling you this for years. Start believing them. 

Yes.  That’s the way.  

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

It’s really a handful of tech billionaires that want to play god with all their money.  Vance and Trump are just stooges, the next guy will be too.  It’s the Christian nationalists that worry me because the only thing at the end of their road is a bunch of dead people. It’s like one of the biggest cautionary tales in history. 

The issue is that Trump gives them what they want because they flatter him. Vance gives them what they want because he’s one of them and a true believer.

There’s a big difference.

[softlynow 1812]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Nothing about my post indicates that rules or norms mean anything.  Quite the opposite, it assumes thunderdome.  A thunderdome where Trump is out of the picture sooner rather than later.  GOP is going to have to find other ways to cling to power.  How will they do it?

Trump will live long enough to end the Republic. Puppet Empereor Vance. 

[David Dennison 18845]

8 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

I know I’m stating the obvious: this is who America is. We were always a fundamentally center right country, and we are moving further right.  This isn’t a bunch of dumb people who got tricked into a second Trump term. The country does not agree with the Democratic Party. 
 

He won a landslide. This is about as close to the 1932 election in reverse as you are likely to get. The Democrats need to look at who they are.

Oh, goody. Maybe our center left party can move further right. Yeah, that's the ticket.

[Biff Tannen 45664]

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

Sweet. Glad to see that the stock market being up matters again. 

I don't imagine we'll have to wait long to see the GOP reminding us that our inflation is actually pretty low compared to the rest of the world.

I was going to rage rep this, but I’m done. This is the reality. We all just have to wake up to it. This decade long nightmare is going to continue. Forever. 

[Macanudo 12975]

10 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

This is about as close to the 1932 election in reverse as you are likely to get.

Except January 6th was the failed Beer Hall Putsch and Reichstag Fire all rolled into on.   Sieg Trump.

[Goofyboy 3268]

How and why?

25th amendment and because Theil owns JD Vance and not Trump. Vance has zero power. Theil and co want the power of the White House.

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

Oh, goody. Maybe our center left party can move further right. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Ignoring the actual voting habits of the American electorate is how we got here. Or we can run Rashida Tlaib in 2028 and try to lose all 50 states!

[CooterBrown 18002]

What’s going to happen is there’s going to be another pandemic, but this time they’ll lock up anyone who even talks about needing a vaccine.

Kennedy said he will ban vaccines once Trump appoints him health czar.

I wish I was joking.

[Bateshorn 9927]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Oh, goody. Maybe our center left party can move further right. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Biden gave the left about as much as he could within the constraints of our governing system.  But I look forward to hearing Bernie and Warren telling us that Scandanavian style socialism is what will cure the party’s electoral ills.

[Balcones 317]

18 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Ok.

Also I think it's important for Trump supporters to see how this plays out today and coming days. 

- Kamala will concede

- Outside of the fringe, no one is going to say the election is rigged

- You will see a lot of sadness, not violence. 

I hope they absorb this and reflect, however unlikely. 

Tsunami.

[David Dennison 18845]

1 minute ago, Bateshorn said:

Biden gave the left about as much as he could within the constraints of our governing system.  But I look forward to hearing Bernie and Warren telling us that Scandanavian style socialism is what will cure the party’s electoral ills.

Move to the center harder!

[softlynow 1812]

5 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Ignoring the actual voting habits of the American electorate is how we got here. Or we can run Rashida Tlaib in 2028 and try to lose all 50 states!

Trump-lite doesn’t beat Trump. Stop beating up the non-deplorables. 

[Ragde 244]

24 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Zero point zero chance this happens 

From either side.

[DigglerontheHoof 21176]

49 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Trumps Hispanic vote being better than Bush's... Damn..

 

 

People this stupid deserve to get deported. 

[Chad Fuck 17659]

A country of mean, racist, sexist, idiots just elected their mirror.

I should just move to Venezuela. The vote will count the same and at least the women are consistently hotter.

[David Dennison 18845]

Just now, DigglerontheHoof said:

People this stupid deserve to get deported. 

This attitude toward voters is one reason why Democrats are losing elections.

[The Original Greaser Bob 2819]

I don't think there is any need to move left or right.  Or any concern if there is a slight move left or right.

Dems lost this election because Biden did a shitty job of actual efforts on the border and marketing those efforts.  He and Harris also did a shitty job of explaining the inflationary effects of the infrastructure bill and how we overshot the mark but were doing it to protect jobs.  

But mostly just the world economy and higher prices over the last four years.

Covid giveth the Dems a victory and Covid taketh away.

[locodos 5387]

Good news guys, the Migrant convoys have been stopped!

[UTGrad98 2271]

I woke up at 430 this morning and opened my phone to a result I already knew. I've been through a gamut of emotions since then including anger, disgust, and condescension. 3 hours later I've come to the conclusion I'm going to continue to help and fight the good fight. I think we will be ok. Inflation was the driver and I don't think we are ready as a country for certain things....like equality. Hopefully soon. 

[Chad Fuck 17659]

It’s clear to me that the GOP and Democratic Party operate by a different set of rules. I’ve accepted a while back that Dems are always gonna be the party that wins when the republicans fuck up or at least perceived to fuck up.
 
I literally watched the Democratic Party run Howard Dean clear out of the primary race for getting too excited on stage during a rally and going on to lose the election with John Kerry to a C avg student from Yale. Dems are the cleanup crew and I just don’t see that changing. The only positive is Dems will absolutely win in 2028 regardless of who they put forward because the orange baboon will absolutely hammer us for four years

lol that you think there will be a meaningful vote in four years.

Remember every accusation being a confession? It’s going to be rigged as hell.

We voted for our authoritarianism, we will have to shoot our way out of it. That’s what history teaches.

[DigglerontheHoof 21176]

41 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Good.  Bye.  

Don't you have kids and women at your church to molest?

[G650 14229]

Something I have thought for a long time, which seems to only have accelerated, is that a huge part of the American electorate wants an impossible outcome. Which in and of itself is not so surprising as it's somewhat human nature, but this in particular is a weird sort of ennui and meaninglessness that has been brewing since the 90s. We are the most cosseted and comfortable people ever to grace planet earth, and it isn't enough. By any metric, everyone from the poorest to the richest in this country has a better standard of life than they did 30 years ago, and it's not even close (people living in a cardboard bow maybe excluded). And yet we are as divided and angry as at any point since the 19th century. There is a just a purposelessness for a great swath of society that I don't see any cure for.

[Francisco 2.0 32386]

My wife went upstairs to wake our kids up this morning.   As she woke up our 12 year old daughter, the first thing she asked was who won the election.  My wife tells her Trump did, and she started to cry.  What a stomach punch.

She then asked if we could move out of the country for the next 4 years.  She's aware of efforts to eliminate bodily autonomy for women in our state and others, and a possible national restriction in the near future.

12 year olds shouldn't have to feel this way about a goddamned presidential election, but here we are.

 

Edited November 6 by Francisco 2.0

[G650 14229]

2 minutes ago, UTGrad98 said:

woke up at 430 this morning and opened my phone to a result I already knew. I've been through a gamut of emotions since then including anger, disgust, and condescension. 3 hours later I've come to the conclusion I'm going to continue to help and fight the good fight. I think we will be ok. Inflation was the driver and I don't think we are ready as a country for certain things....like equality. Hopefully soon.

You have described me exactly.

 

The thing is, I still have a wife and son, a mother, loved ones. I'm not gonna roll over, I will keep fighting for them.

[AnTiM 1666]

2 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

This.  I despise this country, now.   

I am sure that if i were 50 years younger and knew what I know today I would be calling some government office for information on how to move to Australia or Canada.  I am just glad my parents are not alive to see this bullshit.

[aggie08 21482]

14 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

25th amendment and because Theil owns JD Vance and not Trump. Vance has zero power. Theil and co want the power of the White House.

So tell Trump his tie makes him look thin, and he'll do whatever you ask without upsetting his base.

[David Dennison 18845]

1 minute ago, Chad Fuck said:

lol that you think there will be a meaningful vote in four years.

Remember every accusation being a confession? It’s going to be rigged as hell.

We voted for our authoritarianism, we will have to shoot our way out of it. That’s what history teaches.

This may or may not be true, but on thing is certain: the message that Donald Trump is some sort of existential threat to the American experiment landed about as well as a wet turd.

[Frank Drebin 5654]

3 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Don't you have kids and women at your church to molest?

No.  Not Hollywood or P Diddy party attendees that are all Democrats.  

2 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

My wife went upstairs to wake our kids up this morning.   As she woke up our 12 year old daughter, the first thing she asked was who won the election.  My wife tells her Trump did, and she started to cry.  What a stomach punch.

She then asked if we could move out of the country for the next 4 years.  She's aware of efforts to eliminate bodily autonomy in our state and others, and a possible national restriction in the near future.

12 year olds shouldn't have to feel this way about a goddamned presidential election, but here we are.

 

They only get that anxiety from having hysterical parents.  

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

I don't think there is any need to move left or right.  Or any concern if there is a slight move left or right.
Dems lost this election because Biden did a shitty job of actual efforts on the border and marketing those efforts.  He and Harris also did a shitty job of explaining the inflationary effects of the infrastructure bill and how we overshot the mark but were doing it to protect jobs.  
But mostly just the world economy and higher prices over the last four years.
Covid giveth the Dems a victory and Covid taketh away.

This was my original conclusion, although I’ve inadvertently let myself get away from it.

Look around the map: Democratic candidates of all types were trounced last night. Much like the rest of the world, this is a bad time for the party in power. 2008 Obama would have lost last night.

[Balcones 317]

4 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

My wife went upstairs to wake our kids up this morning.   As she woke up our 12 year old daughter, the first thing she asked was who won the election.  My wife tells her Trump did, and she started to cry.  What a stomach punch.

She then asked if we could move out of the country for the next 4 years.  She's aware of efforts to eliminate bodily autonomy for women in our state and others, and a possible national restriction in the near future.

12 year olds shouldn't have to feel this way about a goddamned presidential election, but here we are.

 

Where does your kid her news? 

[Chad Fuck 17659]

My wife went upstairs to wake our kids up this morning.   As she woke up our 12 year old daughter, the first thing she asked was who won the election.  My wife tells her Trump did, and she started to cry.  What a stomach punch.
She then asked if we could move out of the country for the next 4 years.  She's aware of efforts to eliminate bodily autonomy for women in our state and others, and a possible national restriction in the near future.
12 year olds shouldn't have to feel this way about a goddamned presidential election, but here we are.
 

I had to tell my son not to get into it with anyone on the bus this morning.

How do I teach him to be ethical and moral, to treat people with respect and dignity regardless of race, gender, etc., when the president of the United States calls people who act that way suckers and is just a mean person? Lesson: shitty people win?

[Chad Fuck 17659]

This may or may not be true, but on thing is certain: the message that Donald Trump is some sort of existential threat to the American experiment landed about as well as a wet turd.

No doubt.

Because people don’t care about the American experiment anymore.

[DigglerontheHoof 21176]

4 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

No.  Not Hollywood or P Diddy party attendees that are all Democrats.  

They only get that anxiety from having hysterical parents.  

They're trying to protect her from Christian ghouls like you.  You're a Christofast cunt. 

[Frank Drebin 5654]

Just now, DigglerontheHoof said:

They're trying to protect her from Christian ghouls like you.  You're a Christofast cunt. 

Have a wonderful day!

[Bateshorn 9927]

15 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Move to the center harder!

Fuck them voters, amirite?

[Balcones 317]

1 minute ago, Chad Fuck said:

I had to tell my son not to get into it with anyone on the bus this morning.

How do I teach him to be ethical and moral, to treat people with respect and dignity regardless of race, gender, etc., when the president of the United States calls people who act that way suckers and is just a mean person? Lesson: shitty people win?

Have him read the threads in Cloak Room for the last 4 years.  He will see what a dignified, level headed, gentleman should act like.

[Frank Drebin 5654]

1 minute ago, Balcones said:

Have him read the threads in Cloak Room for the last 4 years.  He will see what a dignified, level headed, gentleman should act like.

They can’t see it.  They are blind. This place is just the other side of the coin of Texags political board.  It’s hilarious.  
 

No one is more hateful than leftists.  Miserable lost people with a lot of mental illness thrown in. 

Edited November 6 by Frank Drebin

[RomaVicta 29902]

10 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

A country of mean, racist, sexist, idiots just elected their mirror.

I should just move to Venezuela. The vote will count the same and at least the women are consistently hotter.

 

8 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

lol that you think there will be a meaningful vote in four years.

Remember every accusation being a confession? It’s going to be rigged as hell.

We voted for our authoritarianism, we will have to shoot our way out of it. That’s what history teaches.

I'm aligned with Mr. Fuck.

It was nice to feel happy and hopeful for a few months. It's not uncommon at all for me to be wrong in a political prediction.

When a nation tells you who they are, believe them.  Hateful, fearful, racist "Christian" nationalists who chose an anti-moral would-be totalitarian to lead them.

The belief that the US would spit Trump out made the first term amusing as well as maddening. It won't be amusing this go 'round.

What is bitterly interesting is observing so many here talking about issues like inflation, Dem mistakes with voters, and other issues. That's old paradigm. This was a conquest not a rational debate. 

Checkmate.

(moved this from the election prediction thread)

[Baboontyme 2809]

9 minutes ago, G650 said:

You have described me exactly.

 

The thing is, I still have a wife and son, a mother, loved ones. I'm not gonna roll over, I will keep fighting for them.

Same but I'm not quite there yet. The urge to completely disengage is very very strong. Yet here I am reading this thread. 

[Balcones 317]

Just now, Frank Drebin said:

They can’t see it.  They are blind. This place is just the other side of the coin of Texags political board.  It’s hilarious.  

Aggy tear or liberal tears?  Both are different but equally delicious.

[hornmpa96 2618]

6 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

 

They only get that anxiety from having hysterical parents.  

That’s a ridiculous comment. Women are dying in Texas because they are unable to get  routine medical care. It’s not hysterical at all. This is unfortunately the world we live in today.

[RomaVicta 29902]

8 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

No.  Not Hollywood or P Diddy party attendees that are all Democrats.  

They only get that anxiety from having hysterical parents.  

Fitting to gloat like your NFL or NBA team won. Hooray for the jersey! And the nation for which it stands.

[Captainant 27625]

9 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

No.  Not Hollywood or P Diddy party attendees that are all Democrats.  

Uh huh. 

[956 Worldwide 34697]

I will say one thing.  I hope every fucking young man who pulled the lever for DJT has his brain melted by the male loneliness epidemic.  I hope they all spend the rest of their twenties in a vape and Monster induced stupor surrounded by other fucking groypers and incels.  I hope they never feel a woman’s touch or even a smile, I hope they grow old and wither away feeling like no one ever loved them.  
 

I will do my damndest to make sure my daughters do their bit in all that. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21176]

2 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

That’s a ridiculous comment. Women are dying in Texas because they are unable to get  routine medical care. It’s not hysterical at all. This is unfortunately the world we live in today.

That's what he wants.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

@Brisketexan will tell you that I pour very good whisky out here on the ledge.

Can I join?

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

What’s going to happen is there’s going to be another pandemic, but this time they’ll lock up anyone who even talks about needing a vaccine.

Yup. You thought 1-1.5M dead was something, it will be tens of millions.

 

59 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Good.  Bye.  

Go fuck yourself, Johnny Sack of Shit.

 

52 minutes ago, Brew said:

Trump’s America is who we have become, that much is clear now.

That in and of itself brings on this sense of hopelessness I have this morning. 

There was hope that the next generation wasn’t as bad as the outgoing generation and they would help save us. Yeah, nope.

There was hope that with defeat, the GOP would be able to move on from Trumpism and maybe move a different direction. Yeah, nope.

Trump may have a Senate, House, and SC and more than half the voters supporting his plan. Hopeless, that’s what I see for the future. My oldest daughter is already exploring semester abroad programs, she will likely look further at more permanent solutions.

The American electorate is stupid and hateful. See @Frank Drebin and @Balcones in this thread.

40 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Do you think we'd still be saying this if people viewed the economy as good? I don't know, maybe.

The economy is good, but Americans are too fucking stupid. Most Americans have no fucking clue how the economy actually functions. Rather, they are idiots that fall for populist misinformation. Fuck them.

27 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Kennedy said he will ban vaccines once Trump appoints him health czar.

I wish I was joking.

FAFO

30 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

25th amendment and because Theil owns JD Vance and not Trump. Vance has zero power. Theil and co want the power of the White House.

Yep. JD Vance will be a puppet with Thiel's arm up his ass.

34 minutes ago, softlynow said:

Trump will live long enough to end the Republic. Puppet Empereor Vance. 

with Pete Thiel's arm up his ass.

37 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Yes.  That’s the way.  

Fuck off, cunt.

13 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

No.  Not Hollywood or P Diddy party attendees that are all Democrats.  

They only get that anxiety from having hysterical parents.  

So? Dotard was just buddy, buddy with Epstein AND also like Diddy.  He is also a rapist. But keep beating that fucking drum, idiot.

I know you have the money to take your family out of the state if they need life saving care, and I know you do not give a rats ass about anyone but yourself, but I believe that you will reap what you sow. 

Edited November 6 by PenelopeWitherspoon