Trump’s America

[TexArcher 37,346]

30 minutes ago, troph said:

I woke up and told my wife we would make more money, have more fun, put our phones down, put our phones down, find another charity, take a walk, find another sport to play, find another hobby, take a hike, etc. etc. we have a lot to be thankful for and we will find our way. our purpose is in our work, our family, my kids, our relationship and helping others.

There you go.

I'm trying to remember that I have a good job, enough money to travel, relative health and safety, and a lot of other things that a lot of people are missing out on right now.  

I know I'm one of the lucky ones.  I'll have options if I need them.

But god damn, it's depressing to think of all of the unlucky ones, here and elsewhere, because of what's coming.  This shouldn't be happening.  This world is hard enough when we don't intentionally make it worse.

[DigglerontheHoof 20,817]

6 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

What in the ever living fuck is wrong with you? 

Holy shit you cunts are coming out of the woods now aren't you? Talk about pussy ass bitch. That's you.

He's a coward like they all are. 

[Fat Bastard 591]

1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

There you go.

I'm trying to remember that I have a good job, enough money to travel, relative health and safety, and a lot of other things that a lot of people are missing out on right now.  

I know I'm one of the lucky ones.  I'll have options if I need them.

But god damn, it's depressing to think of all of the unlucky ones, here and elsewhere, because of what's coming.  This shouldn't be happening.  This world is hard enough when we don't intentionally make it worse.

Shit-posting aside, the thread is called Trump’s America. In your opinion, what do you think is “coming”?

[BevoAbyss 2,003]

Y'all should know where I stand on these issues. I am 100% against fascism, Trump, MAGA. Always been over the edge, past brisket.

But let me also say this, something I wanted to say in here for a long time:

That University of Texas alums talk to each other like this makes me sad. Very sad. 

I deeply love everything that UT has provided me with for my education and my career. I always felt, wrongly and naively it seems, that UT alums would all share a common and friendly bond because of our great university. 

But religion, billionaires, propaganda, politics, legacy media, and social media have destroyed that possibility.

It all makes me deeply sad. 

Just know this: If I am driving down the highway and I see a car with flat tire (or broken down) and that car has a Longhorn sticker, I am 100% stopping to offer help. No questions asked. And when the tired is changed or the tow truck arrives, and we part ways, I will say to that Longhorn:  Hook'em.

Edited 17 hours ago by BevoAbyss

[Davis Lane 5,519]

9 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Just how stupid are these stupid people….?

Last night CNN stated Trump's base in Georgia is basically uneducated white males 18 - 29 years of age.

I'm pretty sure that's true for all states.

By the way this is my first and probably last posting/visiting CR.

Edited 17 hours ago by Davis Lane

[pearlandhorn 3,265]

1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

Kennedy said he will ban vaccines once Trump appoints him health czar.

I wish I was joking.

Link?

[MissingInAction 24,650]

1 minute ago, Fat Bastard said:

Shit-posting aside, the thread is called Trump’s America. In your opinion, what do you think is “coming”?

Cunts like you thinking they have the high ground.

[TexArcher 37,346]

Just now, Fat Bastard said:

Shit-posting aside, the thread is called Trump’s America. In your opinion, what do you think is “coming”?

Fascism.  Mass deportations.  Economic collapse.  Probably war.  Have you not been listening?

[Celery Man 20,775]

2 minutes ago, G650 said:

Oh, it would.

yeah I really don't think it's the female candidate thing. it's that half of the country has been so thoroughly poisoned. the post that your takeaway shouldn't be that half of the country is racist/mysoginist/sexist/fascist/whatever is also kinda true - it's not so much that they are that, it's that they now exist in a parallel reality with completely different facts about what even is, and what it means to be a decent person

 

1 minute ago, Fat Bastard said:

Shit-posting aside, the thread is called Trump’s America. In your opinion, what do you think is “coming”?

well certainly not your wife

[Fat Bastard 591]

Just now, BevoAbyss said:

Y'all should know where I stand on these issues. I am 100% against fascism, Trump, MAGA. Always been over the edge, past brisket.

But let me also say this, something I wanted to say in here for a long time:

That University of Texas alums talk to each other like this makes me sad. Very sad. 

I deeply love everything that UT has provided me with for my education and my career. I always felt, wrongly and naively it seems, that UT alums would all share a common and friendly bond because of our great university. 

But religion, billionaires, propaganda, politics, legacy media, and social media have destroyed that possibility.

It all makes me deeply sad. 

Just know this: If I am driving down the highway and I see a car with flat tire (or broken down) and that car has a Longhorn sticker, I am 100% stopping to offer help. No questions asked. Hook'em.

U wouldn’t help out someone stranded on the road if they have a maroon truck with saw em off shit on there?

[Biff Tannen 45,361]

1 minute ago, Celery Man said:

5 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

yeah I really don't think it's the female candidate thing. it's that half of the country has been so thoroughly poisoned. the post that your takeaway shouldn't be that half of the country is racist/mysoginist/sexist/fascist/whatever is also kinda true - it's not so much that they are that, it's that they now exist in a parallel reality with completely different facts about what even is, and what it means to be a decent person

Agree. I also maintain that seeing the world through a screen has broken people’s grip on reality.  TV, phones, social media. People cannot differentiate between what is on the screen and what is real  

[TexArcher 37,346]

Just now, Fat Bastard said:

U wouldn’t help out someone stranded on the road if they have a maroon truck with saw em off shit on there?

I would help them change their tire while I played the video of our last field goal against them on repeat on my phone.

[Horn Dogg 3,735]

11 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Trump is pretty much the last one I'd pick to handle the current state of the world. Obviously hope I'm wrong.

Agree with you 100%.  Well stated!

Edited 16 hours ago by Horn Dogg

[Celery Man 20,775]

Just now, Biff Tannen said:

Agree. I also maintain that seeing the world through a screen has broken people’s grip on reality.  TV, phones, social media. People cannot differentiate between what is on the screen and what is real  

this is for goddamn sure - I don't understand the kids well enough but it would be interesting to really understand comparatively the difference between the way that the boomers can't distinguish things they see on the internet from real and the way that genz simply exists in the internet

[Captainant 27,103]

7 minutes ago, Fat Bastard said:

Shit-posting aside, the thread is called Trump’s America. In your opinion, what do you think is “coming”?

Probably more chuds on the Internet calling peoples 12 year old daughters "pussies" and saying they can't make their wives cum. 

[Dbeasy 14,878]

Just now, BevoAbyss said:

Y'all should know where I stand on these issues. I am 100% against fascism, Trump, MAGA. Always been over the edge, past brisket.

But let me also say this, something I wanted to say in here for a long time:

That University of Texas alums talk to each other like this makes me sad. Very sad. 

I deeply love everything that UT has provided me with for my education and my career. I always felt, wrongly and naively it seems, that UT alums would all share a common and friendly bond because of our great university. 

But religion, billionaires, propaganda, politics, legacy media, and social media have destroyed that possibility.

It all makes me deeply sad. 

Just know this: If I am driving down the highway and I see a car with flat tire (or broken down) and that car has a Longhorn sticker, I am 100% stopping to offer help. No questions asked. Hook'em.

The person just elected to President is verifiably: a convicted felon, convicted of sexual assault, a serial liar, a crook who stole from his own foundation, quite possibly a traitor to this country, identified as unfit for office by his entire administration and countless others, potentially a pedophile, a bully, a hate monger, appeals to racists, may also be racist, and is a terrible human being.  So that means people either don't believe all of this, or they don't care. Either way, they deserve every bit of shame they receive for being either so dumb or such a terrible human being.  Eff em.

[Hook1997 5,250]

3 minutes ago, Davis Lane said:

Last night CNN stated Trump's base in Georgia is basically uneducated white males 18 - 29 years of age.

I'm pretty sure that's true for all states.

 

If you keep thinking like that nothing will change.  The big problem is the democrats come across as looking down at the common people and Trump plays to them.  Is it in a right way? No but evidently it works.  There’s a huge divide away from center from the left that no one wants to admit evidently and until that happens nothing will change.  

[G650 13,553]

4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Agree. I also maintain that seeing the world through a screen has broken people’s grip on reality.  TV, phones, social media. People cannot differentiate between what is on the screen and what is real  

For me perosanlly, I just can't and probably never will, understand what they want. It's so detached from every value we were raised with and taught to believe.

[scottsins 1,949]

7 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

Link?

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/04/election-trump-rfk-jr-vaccines-fluoride

[Balcones 455]

1 minute ago, Dbeasy said:

identified as unfit for office by his entire administration and countless others,

This is fake news.

[irishtexan 11,431]

A few thoughts.

The Dems "Big Tent" gives them a broad and diverse voting base, but it's clear that loudly progressing the platform of every demographic within that base does not resonate with those outside the tent. I thought it was absurd that the only ads Ted Cruz ran were about trans bullshit and "men playing in women's sports". I thought, "there's no way people really give a shit about this, right?" But boy was I wrong. They polled prospective voters and those voters said "we're tired of this shit." They knew what they were doing, and it worked. Identity Politics is a losing game. The path forward to protect and expand the rights for marginalized groups will probably require first obtaining a political mandate by gaining the public's trust on handling the meat-and-potatoes issues that do resonate with the broader electorate, and then passing legislation enshrining those rights for marginalized groups, even if the general public isn't necessarily comfortable with it. Dems need to stick to the meat and potatoes issues that resonate with voters and tune out the social issues that give middle America the ick. Jobs, economy, diplomacy. It sucks, but it's true.

My very real concerns about Trump's legislative and personal-retribution agenda are somewhat mitigated by the fact that he's too fucking lazy to do any real work, although spite is a great motivator. My concerns is who will be the person(s) setting and executing the legislative agenda. Donald Trump is not a fascist because of his political philosophy. Donald Trump has no philosophy. He's a political nihilist. (I mean, say what you will about the tenets of national socialism. At least it's an ethos) He will support anything that he believes is popular and will get people to vote for him. He's the very definition of a puppet. The question then becomes, who is he going to let put their hand up his ass and make him dance?

But he is a fascist in the sense that he believes the presidency gives him absolute authority. And his stacking of the Supreme Court and their ruling that the executive office is immune to prosecution only reaffirms that belief. How motivated will be to go after his enemies, and what will that look like? I truly don't know.

I'm also very nervous about diplomacy. This man is so unstable. It's terrifying that he could literally order a nuclear attack at any time. Also, hey Ukraine - you're fucked. You should probably start walking west if you live there. 

As a straight white man, I try to reflect upon, appreciate and understand the incredible privilege with which I've been blessed. My life wasn't dramatically impacted by the first Trump presidency. And if my daughter were to need access to exercise what I believe is her right to get an abortion, we have the means to facilitate that. But I do feel for marginalized groups that will be affected by those setting the legislative agenda. Buckle up buttercup. It's gonna be a terrible fucking ride. It'll be like when those people boarded an architectural boat tour in Chicago on August 8th 2004 only to have Dave Matthews Band's tour bus dump 800 pounds of human waste all over them as the bus passed over the Kinzie Street bridge. 

[troph 24,336]

why are people coming here and shit talking like this is SEC rant? Trump won, I’m sad, probably not scared but certainly worried. Texas already has us in motion. But it’s not a game - For anyone, either side. So sick of the sport of politics.

[Fat Bastard 591]

I think the days of having honorable grandpa types like Reagan are over. Since then, we’ve had multiple presidents who’ve done coke, gotten blowjobs in the Oval Office, have been unfaithful to their wives, etc and whatever Trump has done. 
 

As VY said before we went on our NC run, “we’ve got some gangstas too”

[Evil Bill Obrien 3,087]

43 minutes ago, immamac said:

This. So much this. 

My longcat post earlier is simply

"If you don't like it, what are you doing about it?"

If the answer is nothing and you are just gonna whine about how America let you down then just fuck off. If you really want to do something about it talk about what you are willing to do and then actually do it. 

 

Maybe don't talk about it on an internet message board if its gonna draw the FBI here though...

[BevoAbyss 2,003]

2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

The person just elected to President is verifiably: a convicted felon, convicted of sexual assault, a serial liar, a crook who stole from his own foundation, quite possibly a traitor to this country, identified as unfit for office by his entire administration and countless others, potentially a pedophile, a bully, a hate monger, appeals to racists, may also be racist, and is a terrible human being.  So that means people either don't believe all of this, or they don't care. Either way, they deserve every bit of shame they receive for being either so dumb or such a terrible human being.  Eff em.

Oh, I agree 100%. 

It still makes sad that this is the all-too-real situation -- that there is so much hate directed toward each other among UT alums. 

[immamac 42,256]

Just now, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Maybe don't talk about it on an internet message board if its gonna draw the FBI here though...

There's nothing illegal about affecting change and organizing. The amount of "well I've thought about it and I'll be fine but I feel so bad for everyone else" in here is actually fucking wild and indicative of the complete disconnect from reality.

[G650 13,553]

3 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

Dems need to stick to the meat and potatoes issues that resonate with voters and tune out the social issues that give middle America the ick.

I agree with this but find it extremely sad, and always have, going back to the days that I voted mostly Republican.

 

Probably my biggest regret is I always thought of the religious nuts as useful idiots in the R coalition.

[Frank Drebin 5,483]

4 minutes ago, troph said:

why are people coming here and shit talking like this is SEC rant? Trump won, I’m sad, probably not scared but certainly worried. Texas already has us in motion. But it’s not a game - For anyone, either side. So sick of the sport of politics.

Not you, but you know how many cloak room dickheads have repeatedly tagged me in posts the last couple years when I had stopped posting here three years ago?

This entire board is an echo chamber sport of politics for your side. 

[pearlandhorn 3,265]

5 minutes ago, scottsins said:

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/04/election-trump-rfk-jr-vaccines-fluoride

“He says, ‘If you give me the data, all I want is the data, and I’ll take on the data and show that it’s not safe,’” Lutnick said. “Let’s give him the data. I think it’ll be pretty cool to give him the data. Let’s see what he comes up with. I think it’s pretty fun.”
 

It appears that RFK wants the data on vaccines to show and inform the American people on what they’re actually putting in their bodies. RFK has said multiple times that there are good vaccines out there but the data is being gate-kept by the CDC and FDA. 

[Pimphand 5,532]

Which one of you is this?

 

[Frank Drebin 5,483]

1 minute ago, Pimphand said:

Which one of you is this?

 

[Incredulity 11,279]

32 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Again, remember this the next time Republicans lose. 

Would you kindly spend the next 4 years explaining to the CR this is EXACTLY why you don’t want to abolish the filibuster…?

[immamac 42,256]

Just now, Incredulity said:

Would you kindly spend the next 4 years explaining to the CR this is EXACTLY why you don’t want to abolish the filibuster…?

I don't give a shit who gets rid of it. Get rid of it. 

[Davis Lane 5,519]

7 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

If you keep thinking like that nothing will change.  The big problem is the democrats come across as looking down at the common people and Trump plays to them.  Is it in a right way? No but evidently it works.  There’s a huge divide away from center from the left that no one wants to admit evidently and until that happens nothing will change.  

Maybe my wording could have have been better.

I said nothing about the way I think.

Based on CNN's coverage, that demographic for Trump's base was mentioned many times.

And you're right, Trump is a genius when it comes riling up the masses.

That's what got him in this time and that last time.

[irishtexan 11,431]

Oh, and another thing - pre-election polling data is worthless, especially when you have a candidate like Trump in the mix. People did not want to voluntarily admit that they were gonna vote for Trump. They know it's distasteful. And it skews the polls. 

[Biff Tannen 45,361]

8 minutes ago, immamac said:

There's nothing illegal about affecting change and organizing.

Yet

[hpslugga 4,018]

 

 

1 minute ago, troph said:

why are people coming here and shit talking like this is SEC rant? Trump won, I’m sad, probably not scared but certainly worried. Texas already has us in motion. But it’s not a game - For anyone, either side. So sick of the sport of politics.

They’ve been trained to believe that politics is a team sport. What else do you think motivates them to vote against their interests?

Chomsky had it straight many decades ago, and sadly, we haven’t done much as a whole to prove him wrong:

”When I'm driving, I sometimes turn on the radio and I find very often that what I'm listening to is a discussion of sports. These are telephone conversations. People call in and have long and intricate discussions, and it's plain that quite a high degree of thought and analysis is going into that. People know a tremendous amount. They know all sorts of complicated details and enter into far-reaching discussion about whether the coach made the right decision yesterday and so on.

These are ordinary people, not professionals, who are applying their intelligence and analytic skills in these areas and accumulating quite a lot of knowledge and, for all I know, understanding.

On the other hand, when I hear people talk about, say, international affairs or domestic problems, it's at a level of superficiality that's beyond belief.”

And it’s certainly turning out its ugly head again today. We’ve got motherfuckers coming here to talk shit…but when the red flags about the economy were coming out in 2019 and when they horribly botched the response to one of the worst pandemics we’ve ever seen? Fucking crickets. They can’t defend his policies (to the extent they even know what they are, which is doubtful), but they love to talk shit about “cuck lib tears.” And they think “libruls” are the problem.

No, motherfucker. The problem is dickheads like that who refuse to learn anything. If they have one talent in this world, it’s the complete inability to understand simple things and when called out for it, act all butthurt and indignant. 

One of the big problems the Democrats had last night was low turnout. Sadly, the wrong people turned out. But that’s how it always is. When Trump said that he could shoot people on Madison Avenue and his numbers wouldn’t go down, he wasn’t joking and he wasn’t wrong either. There’s a reliable contingent of people who will vote for a fucking convicted felon as long as they have the magic R next to their name on the screen. They have no moral compass, and they think the biggest problem is people like me saying that they have no moral compass. Them not having a moral compass is their issue, not mine.

It’s like I tell my MAGAt cousin every time he spews out one of his baseless, chickenshit conspiracy theories without the slightest shred of evidence to support it:

if you don’t give me a reason to believe you, I have no reason to believe you, and not having a reason to believe you is literally the best reason not to believe you.

[wildcat09 28,955]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

I don't give a shit who gets rid of it. Get rid of it. 

Yup. The country needs to know what it voted for.

[RomaVicta 29,633]

31 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Foreign policy hasn't exactly been a highlight the past 4 years., I'd hate to see it get any worse

Other than our sickeningly unflagging support of the Israeli slaughter of the Palestinians, our only other notable failure was caused by the GOP by obstructing military aid to Ukraine. 

Our prestige was restored. Of course, that's out the window now. Seems we've kept up our end of our alliances. No big hiccups in trade policy. We seem to be cooperating to a much better extent in the global efforts (such as they are) to address climate cataclysm.

Our foreign policy is generally cheap theater for the rubes at home mostly involving useless invasions or airstrikes. Nothing abnormal there.

[Chad Fuck 17,406]

49 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

In the historical sense, it was a good run. 248 years is a fairly long time to go against human nature. 

Yeah, but it sucks to hit during my little window on this planet.  I park across the street from the Holocaust museum and I think about it every morning when I go to work.  We can't seem to shake the hypnotizing effects of "strong" men. I guess its mother natures way of thinning out the herd.  Except that my family and I are in the "out" group that gets culled before the real culling begins.  Pretty, pretty bleak. 

[Skipper 5,997]

10 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

 

Yeah it's the Stephen Millers that we have to worry about. Dudes that are straight up more evil than Trump. 

I 100% agree with all of this.   The only sliver of hope is that at the end of the day, Trump does whatever the fuck he wants, period, so maybe he's just not in the mood to deal with criticism for the worst of the worst ideas.  I fully acknowledge possibility that doesn't happen and the Miller's and Musk's of the world actually get their way.

[Nivek 16,721]

That's the other shocking thing, people's memories of how things were under Trump, and Trump himself, are so bad.  I really thought more people were sick of his shit than this.
Tangentially related thought.  I didn't much like Harris back in 2018-2019, I liked Warren and was ultimately ok with Biden, but given the circumstances, I thought she ran a fantastic campaign and was a genuine, likeable candidate.  If you vote for the person, not the policies, or against the person, she seemed to be a winner.
I am guilty of casual misogyny, but I don't think even deep down I am a misogynist.  It barely entered my mind to consider it a negative that she is a woman, or a person of color. My only thought there was "it's about time" and that it would be historic.
I think a problem for Democrats is that traditional government appears to have failed a lot of people, or they perceive it that way.  But I don't really see how Democrats can campaign except on more or less traditional government grounds.  Are they going to have to campaign as more benevolent dictators?  What the fuck.
And, I had hoped that a Harris win would maybe start undoing some of the shit we've got going on in Texas, which is going to be a long, slow process, regardless.  Fucking fuck.  Ken Paxton is going to be our governor.

You are half-right. People do not remember how bad it was under trump, and Biden got so much shit done, so quickly, that people no longer noticed or cared how much was fucked up.

Where you are wrong is about people voting for policy or for their own interests. The reason conmen and scammers work is because of the momentarY flattery and entrenched identification with the group.

Now that coupled with the demands of our daily lives we turn to an oligarchic controlled media and get fed a steady diet of bullshit when we are fatigued.

Bread and circuses.

[David Dennison 18,168]

30 minutes ago, Fat Bastard said:

Shit-posting aside, the thread is called Trump’s America. In your opinion, what do you think is “coming”?

Probably a bunch of overreach which will swing voters back to Democrats.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,353]

Dems didn’t register enough illegal immigrants in the swing states… I heard there was massive cheating in Pennsylvania, can’t remember who said it though. Weird. 

[Balcones 455]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Dems didn’t register enough illegal immigrants in the swing states… I heard there was massive cheating in Pennsylvania, can’t remember who said it though. Weird. 

Did you find the 11k votes in Georgia?

[Hook1997 5,250]

13 minutes ago, Davis Lane said:

Maybe my wording could have have been better.

I said nothing about the way I think.

Based on CNN's coverage, that demographic for Trump's base was mentioned many times.

And you're right, Trump is a genius when it comes riling up the masses.

That's what got him in this time and that last time.

You literally said it was uneducated young people 18 to whatever just dismissing it and making an excuse, there in lies the problem. It’s the looking down on common people that the democrats do, just look at the talk in this forum about that segment of people. That’s the vote that’s missing. I’m not making this up look at the numbers.  The common people do not connect to the Democratic Party these days at all.  

[SimonBolivar 10,847]

48 minutes ago, Fat Bastard said:

I have a child who’s a similar age as the pussy earlier with the crying 12 year old daughter. I can’t imagine what I would do if, when I woke him up this morning, he cried at hearing the news Harris won and suggested leaving the country for 4 years. I’d probably laugh at him first, then smack him in the back of the head, and finally tell him to stop being a pussy. 
 

And, that would be the end of that.  Eat your cheerios and get your ass to school. 

I was going to say "weird" but I think the popular vote says that is an inaccurate assessment.  Have fun beating your kids though.

[troph 24,336]

21 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Not you, but you know how many cloak room dickheads have repeatedly tagged me in posts the last couple years when I had stopped posting here three years ago?

This entire board is an echo chamber sport of politics for your side. 

I said it's not good for either side. I do think Trump is an outlier of massive and dangerous proportions but it's still not a sport.

[aggie08 20,976]

8 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Dems didn’t register enough illegal immigrants in the swing states… I heard there was massive cheating in Pennsylvania, can’t remember who said it though. Weird. 

You knew we were fucked when he stopped lying about cheating after that.

[Pato del Muerto 52,175]

30 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

And if my daughter were to need access to exercise what I believe is her right to get an abortion, we have the means to facilitate that

On this point, I have a couple of counterpoints.  
Some states are at least trying to make it illegal to leave the state for such activity.  So you and her would be putting yourselves in some amount of legal peril anyway- especially if they decide that it’s murder and that’s the charge attached. 
And then there’s the issue of emergency complications that need immediate treatment, where a long drive or plane ride don’t help.