Trump’s America

[956 Worldwide 34705]

 

 

[The Original Greaser Bob 2830]

40 minutes ago, G650 said:

First of all, the states have the most control over elections. And term limits are a constitutional amendment.

Thanks God we've got Texas legislators to protect our elections.

[aggie08 21498]

1 minute ago, Hook1997 said:

That’s not the majority though and that’s part of the problem!  Everyone is literally labeling them because of the loud minority portion and then calling anyone who votes republican names ect.  That’s part of the problem.  I think it’s dumb as shit to vote for Trump because I think he’s a horrible person but a lot of these people feel more insulted by the Democratic Party because of exactly what you and other say about them non stop these days and in the media.  

Can we please knock this shit off about the big, mean liberals that have been so uncool to Trump supporters? Why, because Jimmy Kimmel insults them every night? The language from the top of the GOP has been leaps and bounds more hateful than that from the DNC for decades. So are you talking us "normal" liberals who make them feel horrible?

In real life, none of the liberals I know would dream about bringing up politics out of the blue. Because we're not fucking psychopaths. That shit's rude. Meanwhile, ALL of my Trump voting family/friends find all kinds of opportunities to rant about politics/conspiracies or make an unprovoked comment about trans issues. And they've all unanimously managed to completely forget how social cues work.

I can't go to a beach, lake, camping, or off-roading with my kids without seeing Fuck Joe Biden and Joe and the Ho flags and shirts near us.

It's all so god-damned hypocritical.

[wildcat09 29350]

Hook1997 will joke about how libs are vermin with his buddies then come here whining about how we think he's stupid. 

[Red Five 40854]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

In real life, none of the liberals I know would dream about bringing up politics out of the blue. Because we're not fucking psychopaths. That shit's rude. Meanwhile, ALL of my Trump voting family/friends find all kinds of opportunities to rant about politics/conspiracies or make an unprovoked comment about trans issues. And they've all unanimously managed to completely forget how social cues work.

Great post and spot on. Thanksgiving is going to be fucking awful for me.

[Hook1997 5354]

16 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Bull. Shit.  I live in a very red area.  My buddies and I frequent a bar there.  Over the last few years, overhearing people dropping the hard "r" N word is becoming commonplace.  There's no shame in it anymore.  Trump gives them that permission. 

They're racist as fuck. 

So 71 million people are racist….   This is a dumbass take, like I said it’s the loud minority you hear.  but keep thinking like that and calling them all names and see where that gets you next time.  

 

14 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

so you are saying they are not racist - they just avidly support politicians who are absolutely unequivocally racist - did I get that right?

Your next step is for you to say that the GOP is not racist, because then we will know exactly what we’re talking about

There’s a lot of reason people vote.  I’d hope a big portion that voted for Trump don’t actually like him but didn’t want the alternative more.  And no I’m not saying that’s right either but that’s how it is.  

Edited November 6 by Hook1997

[softlynow 1814]

2 minutes ago, Balcones said:

Kind of like people who have paid off their student loans watching others have the government pay them off.

You mean the folks who had smaller loans from before “deregulation?” Yeah, fuck them. 
 

I will get no relief and still owe $80k+ after starting to repay in 2010, but I had hoped some folks with less ability to pay would get relief to put them closer to par with the cost of a pre-2000 education.

Just more shifting the costs of life onto the lower classes so billionaires can get another mansion, fleet of yachts, sports franchise, whatever. 

[B00M 6415]

9 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Yes.  We are all racist, fascist, sexist, and Nazis.  And dumb.

If you’re any of those, aren’t you inherently more likely to be all of them? All the MAGA guys I know today are racist in the right company, definitely sexist, and they vote for the same wannabe fasciat that actual American nazis vote for… some of them aren’t dumb though, so I’ll concede the point. 

[SubliminalHorn 6786]

6 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

The 2030 census is going to send the democrats to the moon. They are going to lose their minds when California and New York lose as many as 6 Electoral College votes while Florida and Texas pick them up.

You act as if migration to Florida at least is a never ending thing. I know you support a party that doesn’t believe in climate change, but it’s happening. Coastal regions are disappearing, storms are getting stronger, cost of losses are increasing causing insurance rates to go up or not being offered at all. Texas is getting drier and hotter. 

[InkaUtexas 25911]

52 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

For example, last time Trump was in office, Stephen Miller was pushing a program to challenge the citizenship of Americans born in border hospitals in the 30s-40s.  The reasoning was "well, records were sketchy back then, and hospital birth certificates can't be trusted."  Cool.  That applies to....my father.  Who was born in a border hospital, and the only proof of that is his hospital birth certificate.

To be clear, Stephen Miller wants to deport my US citizen father, because he doesn't think my dad can prove he's American enough.  Yeah, y'all can burn in hell.

Yep, I worry about that. I was born overseas in a tiny hospital when my father was serving as a Military Advisor. My birth certificate is interesting. He was not part of the Embassy mission, but an advisor assigned by Special Operations Command. Written in Thai it is a pain in the ass to get any US document. From Driver's license to when I registered to attend UT. Passport at the local office? hahahaha, nah, I have to go to a passport center with real consular officers. Even then it is a pain in the ass.

[DigglerontheHoof 21194]

1 minute ago, Hook1997 said:

So 71 million people are racist….   This is a dumbass take, like I said it’s the loud minority you hear.  but keep thinking like that and calling them all names and see where that gets you next time.  

 

 

My give-a-shit is about done.  I call it like I see it. I'm just telling you, racism is a huge part of it.

But, hey, let's continue down the road to oligarchy and fascism.  I'm sure we'll all be really pleased by the results. 

[G650 14253]

9 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Thanks God we've got Texas legislators to protect our elections.

Yeah, godspeed for y'all

[Brisketexan 105098]

6 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Great post and spot on. Thanksgiving is going to be fucking awful for me.

Cancel it.  Life is too short for that shit.  First, you take care of you and your immediate family.  And if that's where it has to end, so be it.

[Frank Drebin 5663]

1 minute ago, SubliminalHorn said:

You act as if migration to Florida at least is a never ending thing. I know you support a party that doesn’t believe in climate change, but it’s happening. Coastal regions are disappearing, storms are getting stronger, cost of losses are increasing causing insurance rates to go up or not being offered at all. Texas is getting drier and hotter. 

People vote with their feet.  That trend is not changing.  The last census shortchanged red states by 3 EVs.  2030 is going to fix that.

[B00M 6415]

3 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

You act as if migration to Florida at least is a never ending thing. I know you support a party that doesn’t believe in climate change, but it’s happening. Coastal regions are disappearing, storms are getting stronger, cost of losses are increasing causing insurance rates to go up or not being offered at all. Texas is getting drier and hotter. 

I assume @Incredulity has a solid rebuttal since the scientists are still hotly debating this.

[SubliminalHorn 6786]

Just now, Frank Drebin said:

People vote with their feet.  That trend is not changing.  The last census shortchanged red states by 3 EVs.  2030 is going to fix that.

Yes that’s the point. We’ll see what the trends are in the next 5 years after more destructive storms in Florida and water supplies dwindling in Texas 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13511]

12 minutes ago, Balcones said:

Kind of like people who have paid off their student loans watching others have the government pay them off.

Kind of like people, like me, who don't have kids but have paid thousands in the school system. A society leads to scenarios where individuals sometimes receives benefits from govt programs and sometimes they don't. 

I do agree with you that we're moving more to a place where it's everyone for themselves. 

[Balcones 316]

10 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I can't go to a beach, lake, camping, or off-roading with my kids without seeing Fuck Joe Biden and Joe and the Ho flags and shirts near us.

It's all so god-damned hypocritical.

Tell me you have never been to the beach in Martha’s Vineyard, Hawaii, or California with telling me.

[4th&Five 41526]

Just now, Balcones said:

Tell me you have never been to the beach in Martha’s Vineyard, Hawaii, or California with telling me.

i think he lives in CA

[aggie08 21498]

Just now, Balcones said:

Tell me you have never been to the beach in Martha’s Vineyard, Hawaii, or California with telling me.

I live in San Diego and go to Hawaii at least annually. Care to try again? But sure, not much of what I'm talking about in Kauai.

[Balcones 316]

2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Kind of like people, like me, who don't have kids but have paid thousands in the school system. A society leads to scenarios where individuals sometimes receives benefits from govt programs and sometimes they don't. 

I do agree with you that we're moving more to a place where it's everyone for themselves. 

Wow. You never went to school growing up? Amazing.

[Balcones 316]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

I live in San Diego and go to Hawaii at least annually. Care to try again? But sure, not much of what I'm talking about in Kauai.

Lots of Saturdays are for the Boys flags on Waikiki? Ok.

[Brew 3049]

It has been a weird day. We live in a Republican locked area, it’s as red as it gets and people are actually celebrating. All I hear from clients and people around me is positivity and excitement. 

We are not political. People know my stance, but I’m not talking about it all day. My two daughters are distraught today. One is looking at countries that might be worth going to school in and the other is talking about changing majors because she doesn’t see a future in public policy as a women. I guess that means we raised them right from a moral perspective, but it’s still a hard lesson for them in how shitty people really are.

[aggie08 21498]

Just now, Balcones said:

Lots of Saturdays are for the Boys flags on Waikiki? Ok.

What the fuck are you talking about? Proving that the only place I don't see Trump swag is the bluest state in the country doesn't make the point you want it to.

[956 Worldwide 34705]

71 million people who voted for the “fuck your feelings” candidate and a good chunk of them now very much want us to be concerned about their feelings.  They are still angry, not happy.  Craving the respect from the rest of us that you say you don’t care about, but badly want. 

[Balcones 316]

Just now, aggie08 said:

What the fuck are you talking about? Proving that the only place I don't see Trump swag is the bluest state in the country doesn't make the point you want it to.

You must have to put up with so much propaganda on the beach’s of Del Mar and Cardiff.  I’m so sorry.

[Slacks 6819]

So... are we going to Applebees or nah?

[Goredho 17399]

Last post of mine here before I take a break and focus energy into more productive pursuits.  So I am obviously not happy about how things turned out, but I do see two good things resulting from last night's election.

First, that it was a Trump win by a comfortable margin means that we aren't going to have a January 6th repeat unless the left wants to do their best MAGA impersonation.  I would be surprised if they do.  That means there's some time before anything big happens.

Second, there will be no more hypotheticals to be afraid of.  The house is still in the air, but Trump's movement is looking set to hold all branches of the federal government.  That means they will have very little impediment to getting whatever they want done, done.  This means there will be no more illusions.  If they start using project 2025 as their governance punch list, it will be apparent and real for a lot of people who ultimately wound up viewing it as a hypothetical vs real danger.

Beyond that, there's not much else to say.  Change is undoubtedly coming, but maybe it's not as bad as we envisioned.  Maybe some of it is good.  Either way, I wish everyone peace and safety across the turbulence that will be coming.

[Chad Fuck 17672]

45 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I hope that grievances pay their bills when the economy tanks.  You voted for pain so have a nice big 2nd helping of it and save room for dessert.

Second verse, same as the first, but a whole lot louder and a whole lot worse.

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“He’s not hurting the people he needs to be”: a Trump voter says the quiet part out loud

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/8/18173678/trump-shutdown-voter-florida

[aggie08 21498]

2 minutes ago, Balcones said:

You must have to put up with so much propaganda on the beach’s of Del Mar and Cardiff.  I’m so sorry.

Way to completely miss the point.

[B00M 6415]

2 minutes ago, Slacks said:

So... are we going to Applebees or nah?

[Balcones 316]

Just now, aggie08 said:

Way to completely miss the point.

Miss the point? Take your kids to Del Mar, Cardiff, or Waikiki if you don’t want to see Trump flags. Wasn’t that your point?

[wildcat09 29350]

1 minute ago, Goredho said:

Last post of mine here before I take a break and focus energy into more productive pursuits.  So I am obviously not happy about how things turned out, but I do see two good things resulting from last night's election.

First, that it was a Trump win by a comfortable margin means that we aren't going to have a January 6th repeat unless the left wants to do their best MAGA impersonation.  I would be surprised if they do.  That means there's some time before anything big happens.

Second, there will be no more hypotheticals to be afraid of.  The house is still in the air, but Trump's movement is looking set to hold all branches of the federal government.  That means they will have very little impediment to getting whatever they want done, done.  This means there will be no more illusions.  If they start using project 2025 as their governance punch list, it will be apparent and real for a lot of people who ultimately wound up viewing it as a hypothetical vs real danger.

Beyond that, there's not much else to say.  Change is undoubtedly coming, but maybe it's not as bad as we envisioned.  Maybe some of it is good.  Either way, I wish everyone peace and safety across the turbulence that will be coming.

They'll still have a very friendly media environment helping them portray all the problems they cause as somehow Dems' fault. 

[Frank Drebin 5663]

Would like to see the bureaucracy get cut way down.  And also decentralized geographically.  No reason these drastically reduced fed agencies can't be spread out across the country.  I think South Dakota has plenty of room and cheap real estate.  The fed is way too powerful.  Lobbyists are way too concentrated in DC. 

Shitcanning the Chevron doctrine was a good start.  Now it's time to really drain the swamp. 

[GreenspointTexas 9600]

Just now, Frank Drebin said:

Would like to see the bureaucracy get cut way down.  And also decentralized geographically.  No reason these drastically reduced fed agencies can't be spread out across the country.  I think South Dakota has plenty of room and cheap real estate.  The fed is way too powerful.  Lobbyists are way too concentrated in DC. 

Shitcanning the Chevron doctrine was a good start.  Now it's time to really drain the swamp. 

Lmaoooooooooooooo

[wildcat09 29350]

7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

71 million people who voted for the “fuck your feelings” candidate and a good chunk of them now very much want us to be concerned about their feelings.  They are still angry, not happy.  Craving the respect from the rest of us that you say you don’t care about, but badly want. 

Yup. Donald's entire personality is based on the NY elites not giving him the respect he thinks he deserves. That's why he's incapable of experiencing happiness. If every Republican voter wants to give themselves the same mental illness so that they never experience a moment of actual meaning or joy for the rest of their lives, well shit, knock yourselves out I guess.

[B00M 6415]

2 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Would like to see the bureaucracy get cut way down.  And also decentralized geographically.  No reason these drastically reduced fed agencies can't be spread out across the country.  I think South Dakota has plenty of room and cheap real estate.  The fed is way too powerful.  Lobbyists are way too concentrated in DC. 

Shitcanning the Chevron doctrine was a good start.  Now it's time to really drain the swamp. 

Fun game! While we’re wishing for things republicans have previously proposed that will never happen, i wish for a phased-in balanced budget, congressional term limits, and suppressors to no longer be NFA items.

[G650 14253]

10 minutes ago, Goredho said:

 Either way, I wish everyone peace and safety across the turbulence that will be coming.

Amen brother

[CooterBrown 18006]

1 hour ago, G650 said:

First of all, the states have the most control over elections. And term limits are a constitutional amendment.

They were only for states rights until they got control of all branches of government. States rights are out the fucking window.

 

[aggie08 21498]

12 minutes ago, Balcones said:

Miss the point? Take your kids to Del Mar, Cardiff, or Waikiki if you don’t want to see Trump flags. Wasn’t that your point?

No. The point was that Trump supporters whine about how they're mistreated like they're blameless in the ordeal. Just respectfully and peacefully minding their business. At best, they've proven to be an absolute annoying beating to be around at times. At worst, they're wildly inappropriate and offensive. And still, it's generally our side that has to hold our tongues. Lest we offend their sensibilities.

Edited November 6 by aggie08

[Frank Drebin 5663]

2 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

No. The point was that Trump supporters whine about how they're mistreated like they're blameless in the ordeal. Just respectfully and peacefully minding their business. At best, they've proven to be an absolute annoying beating to be around at times. At worst, they're wildly inappropriate and offensive. And still, it's generally our side that has to hold our tongues. Lest we offend their sensibilities.

Yes.  Democrats are good at holding their tongues about politics.  And definitely aren't the ones who are far more likely to end relationships over political differences.  They just stay silent.  You guys are so awesome! 

[B00M 6415]

3 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

No. The point was that Trump supporters whine about how they're mistreated like they're blameless in the ordeal. Just respectfully and peacefully minding their business. At best, they've proven to be an absolute annoying beating to be around at times. At worst, they're wildly inappropriate and offensive. And still, it's generally our side that has to hold our tongues. Lest we offend their sensibilities.

What, this sort of flag hanging from a house in your neighborhood is offensive? You must not be as devout a Christian as they are, pussy. 

 

[aggie08 21498]

3 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Yes.  Democrats are good at holding their tongues about politics.  And definitely aren't the ones who are far more likely to end relationships over political differences.  They just stay silent.  You guys are so awesome! 

Thanks Johnny!

[Balcones 316]

5 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

No. The point was that Trump supporters whine about how they're mistreated like they're blameless in the ordeal. Just respectfully and peacefully minding their business. At best, they've proven to be an absolute annoying beating to be around at times. At worst, they're wildly inappropriate and offensive. And still, it's generally our side that has to hold our tongues. Lest we offend their sensibilities.

I see. You mean it’s like having a Trump sign in your yard in West Austin. When all of the other civilized, non-judgmental, polite neighbors have a Beto sign in their yard?

[Horn of Gabriel 1614]

3 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Forget all of the complaints about Trump except for one. Can you truthfully answer one thing about Trump for me so that I can at least understand the mindset of the people that put him back in office? Here is my question:

He was caught with thousands of top secret documents and actively did everything possible to hide them and keep them from the government. There is no other reasonable conclusion than he planned to, or was already, selling national secrets for political and or monetary gains.  His crime was extremely different than Biden, who had a small number of older documents that were found among a bunch of files, and who willingly immediately returned the documents, and was open to searches of his home and office. It is clear Biden's crime was sloppy document management. Trump's crime is far more sinister.

Huh?  Is there any evidence of this or is it conjecture?  I can think of a much more logical answer, which is that Trump is stupid and entitled and walked out the door last time with what in his mind were "mementos" of his time in office that he wanted as keepsakes.  That doesn't make it any less illegal, but there is a pretty big jump to "he was selling national secrets to Russia."  Is there some other evidence of that I missed?

[Frank Drebin 5663]

Just now, Balcones said:

I see. You mean it’s like having a Trump sign in your yard in West Austin. When all of the other civilized, non-judgmental, polite neighbors have a Beto sign in their yard?

Don't forget this one:

[wildcat09 29350]

1 minute ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

Huh?  Is there any evidence of this or is it conjecture?  I can think of a much more logical answer, which is that Trump is stupid and entitled and walked out the door last time with what in his mind were "mementos" of his time in office that he wanted as keepsakes.  That doesn't make it any less illegal, but there is a pretty big jump to "he was selling national secrets to Russia."  Is there some other evidence of that I missed?

He met with Saudi officials at Mar a Lago while he had nuclear secrets in the bathroom there. You know, the people who gave his son in law $2 billion.  You don't really have to do the Charlie Kelly board for this one.

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

Don't forget this one:

Of course you get triggered by a sign promoting kindness.

[Frank Drebin 5663]

Just now, wildcat09 said:

He met with Saudi officials at Mar a Lago while he had nuclear secrets in the bathroom there. You know, the people who gave his son in law $2 billion.  You don't really have to do the Charlie Kelly board for this one.

Of course you get triggered by a sign promoting kindness.

It's white limo leftist virtue signaling.

[aggie08 21498]

Just now, Balcones said:

I see. You mean it’s like having a Trump sign in your yard in West Austin. When all of the other civilized, non-judgmental, polite neighbors have a Beto sign in their yard?

Again, you're talking to someone whose friends and family overwhelmingly voted for Trump yesterday. Jesus Christ, look at my username. I'm not the "oh my god, a Trump supporter!" guy, as much as you'd like to paint me as that. But, 9 times out of 10, if someone's going to cross a line and say something pretty heinous...

[Brisketexan 105098]

27 minutes ago, Slacks said:

So... are we going to Applebees or nah?

My friend....a lifetime of Applebees, and only Applebees, is PRECISELY what "we the people" have demonstrated that we deserve.