Trump’s America

[aggie08 21481]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

My friend....a lifetime of Applebees, and only Applebees, is PRECISELY what "we the people" have demonstrated that we deserve. 

Either that or a week of McDonald's

[C-Man 27183]

This going as well as you might expect

https://www.threads.net/@zuck/post/DCCYlzUPKvy?xmt=AQGzUjyUKxV_teMJI33Hf-eGm6tLT_7YD7dfAckoCqhR9A

[wildcat09 29338]

4 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

It's white limo leftist virtue signaling.

Trust fund baby whining about limousine liberals. You have about as much self awareness as Trump.

Look, Johnny, if you're a "thinker," not a "feeler," and you're above things like anxiety/depression/mental illness, what's stopping you from celebrating this win with some scotch or whiskey? Surely someone who's not so mentally and emotionally deficient wouldn't crumble into dust from a sip or two.

[C-Man 27183]

40 minutes ago, Balcones said:

Miss the point? Take your kids to Del Mar, Cardiff, or Waikiki if you don’t want to see Trump flags. Wasn’t that your point?

Political flags for anybody at any fucking beach in the world is weird as fuck

[Incredulity 11643]

13 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

what's stopping you from celebrating this win with some scotch or whiskey? Surely someone who's not so mentally and emotionally deficient wouldn't crumble into dust from a sip or two.

the fuck is wrong with you? My god.  What a fucking scumbag.

[Blotto 23485]

3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Political flags for anybody at any fucking beach in the world is weird as fuck

Amen to that, brother. You're going to a goddamn beach, nobody gives a fuck who you voted for. 

[Kermit 3156]

2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

the fuck is wrong with you? My god.  What a fucking scumbag.

Is he allergic?

[Horn of Gabriel 1614]

25 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

He met with Saudi officials at Mar a Lago while he had nuclear secrets in the bathroom there. You know, the people who gave his son in law $2 billion.  You don't really have to do the Charlie Kelly board for this one.

So the answer is "no" then?

[wildcat09 29338]

4 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

the fuck is wrong with you? My god.  What a fucking scumbag.

What? What's wrong with asking him why he can't celebrate with a drink?

[Jiggy-Z 3432]

5 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Political flags for anybody at any fucking beach in the world is weird as fuck

I'm taking my youngest son to Matagorda 3 mile cut this weekend for a little camping and kayak fishing.

I'm sure the duck hunters and Trumper flag people will be out in full force.

Also, if I remember correctly, and I think I do, the Trumpers got pretty damn uppity after the 2016 election, so I am also expecting that as well.

Yay America.

[TexArcher 37761]

[NorthLoop 14180]

wildcat is just asking questions

[Captainant 27619]

1 minute ago, Jiggy-Z said:

I'm taking my youngest son to Matagorda 3 mile cut this weekend for a little camping and kayak fishing.

I'm sure the duck hunters and Trumper flag people will be out in full force.

Also, if I remember correctly, and I think I do, the Trumpers got pretty damn uppity after the 2016 election, so I am also expecting that as well.

Yay America.

I've got a stick trip to Port O'Connor in a couple weeks and it's gonna be fuckin miserable until we get off of land

[Balcones 317]

1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

Ha! Only global warming can do that. Nice try.

[Frank Drebin 5654]

3 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

What? What's wrong with asking him why he can't celebrate with a drink?

I quit drinking cold turkey 3 years ago.  Read a book that helped me.  Have not had any desire to drink since I quit.  Not something I struggle with at all.  Guess I just don't have the addictive gene.  Was just a bad habit for me not some alcoholic compulsion like many people have.

[C-Man 27183]

George Conway: https://www.threads.net/@gtconway3/post/DCCOCs2R9JL?xmt=AQGzP9g5BYgsifdyDCli00fDAYKVXqJnfV-5_6q3ReNg4A

[wildcat09 29338]

Then you should treat yourself! It's a special occasion!

[hpslugga 4058]

14 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Political flags for anybody at any fucking beach in the world is weird as fuck

You should check out Port Aransas right around Access Road 1. It’s a fucking MAGA circle jerk

[Frank Drebin 5654]

Just now, wildcat09 said:

Then you should treat yourself! It's a special occasion!

Nah.  Not at all tempted.  Don't think about alcohol.

Going to go run 5 miles shortly.  A silently laugh at the handful of Harris Walz signs in my neighborhood (one of the few red areas inside the loop).

[aggie08 21481]

Johnny Sack fucking sucks, we get it. But can we not make fun of people for being a successfully recovered alcoholic?

[Captainant 27619]

3 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Johnny Sack fucking sucks, we get it. But can we not make fun of people for being a successfully recovered alcoholic?

Didn't you read? He's not an alcoholic, his genes were too strong for that kind of weakness

[Frank Drebin 5654]

2 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Johnny Sack fucking sucks, we get it. But can we not make fun of people for being a successfully recovered alcoholic?

Don't think I was an alcoholic.  Just someone who drank more than healthy -- usually several drinks every evening -- and was causing health issues I wanted to get out in front of.  Quitting was easy for me.  I quit tobacco in college just as easily.  Some people do not have addictive personalities.

Does not really matter regardless.  I quit.  Don't think about consuming booze any more despite it being all around me.  It was easy for me.  Wish it was this easy for others.

[Pancho 44685]

Bye bye

 

[Frank Drebin 5654]

Illegal aliens should be deported.  We need to stop incentivizing rule breaking.

We also need a robust guest worker program that allows migrant workers to be vetted and to legally work here.  Many would be happy to work here seasonally and then return home if they could do so without hassle.  Like the old bracero program.

[Kermit 3156]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

Bye bye

 

Dear Penthouse, 

I never thought it could happen to me…

[Valmy77 13225]

3 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Illegal aliens should be deported.  We need to stop incentivizing rule breaking.

We also need a robust guest worker program that allows migrant workers to be vetted and to legally work here.  Many would be happy to work here seasonally and then return home if they could do so without hassle.  Like the old bracero program.

Sure. I mean that is what tons of people were doing anyway. I was always in favor of a guest worker program. Our immigration laws just did not correspond to the needs of the economy.

But will it happen?

Edited November 6 by Valmy77

[aggie08 21481]

Just now, Frank Drebin said:

Illegal aliens should be deported.  We need to stop incentivizing rule breaking.

We also need a robust guest worker program that allows migrant workers to be vetted and to legally work here.  Many would be happy to work here seasonally and then return home if they could do so without hassle.  Like the old bracero program.

Why do you think it is that we've never been able to pass laws to harshly punish companies caught hiring illegals? That would reduce the crossings and jumpstart a better migrant worker program, no?

[immamac 42832]

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

Illegal aliens should be deported.  We need to stop incentivizing rule breaking.

We also need a robust guest worker program that allows migrant workers to be vetted and to legally work here.  Many would be happy to work here seasonally and then return home if they could do so without hassle.  Like the old bracero program.

Trump said if someone got deported on accident everyone would act like it's the worst thing in the world but he doesn't give a shit. 

Do you know how insane it is to deport legal citizens of a country? I have no confidence that this isn't going to be extremely messy because there's not really a way for it not to be. 

[Brisketexan 105041]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

But can we not make fun of people for being a successfully recovered alcoholic?

Sorry, "Fuck your feelings" is the American ethos, new POTUS out front, who has gladly viscerally attacked anyone who thinks differently (I'm "vermin," apparently) shoulda told ya.

[Frank Drebin 5654]

Just now, aggie08 said:

Why do you think it is that we've never been able to pass laws to harshly punish companies caught hiring illegals? That would reduce the crossings and jumpstart a better migrant worker program, no?

I agree with you on that.  Corporate interests.  My party has plenty of blame on that issue.

[hpslugga 4058]

5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Didn't you read? He's not an alcoholic, his genes were too strong for that kind of weakness

Ha!

That poor fool couldn’t whip cream with an outboard motor.

[High Plains Drifter 11024]

5 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

 

We also need a robust guest worker program that allows migrant workers to be vetted and to legally work here.  Many would be happy to work here seasonally and then return home if they could do so without hassle.  Like the old bracero program.

 

I'm dotard and Stephen Miller will get right on that. 

 

[Gatorubet 30183]

1 hour ago, Hook1997 said:

So 71 million people are racist….   This is a dumbass take, like I said it’s the loud minority you hear.  but keep thinking like that and calling them all names and see where that gets you next time.  

 

There’s a lot of reason people vote.  I’d hope a big portion that voted for Trump don’t actually like him but didn’t want the alternative more.  And no I’m not saying that’s right either but that’s how it is.  

like the cowardly pieces of shit you so adore, you completely skate around the fact that they love a racist GOP. You do this because you  believe the same things those racist GOP idiots believe.

You think it’s more important not to call out racists supporting  racists because it makes them feel bad. You think it’s more important not to call out stupid people for being stupid because it makes them feel bad.

You think these things are more important than not being stupid and not being racist.   and this is where we disagree.  here is a tip; they did not vote for Trump because they felt that the mean liberals called them a name or thought they were stupid. They voted for Trump because they are stupid - and because they really love them some racism and some sexism and some homophobia.  

Own it - or explain why supporting racists is not supporting racism.

[Mileslong 4728]

Accoridng to my FB feed, Trump is God’s own candidate and warrior. I want to fucking scream

[Captainant 27619]

5 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Illegal aliens should be deported.  We need to stop incentivizing rule breaking.

Even those that lied about working without authorization and went on to build politically aligned businesses?

[Brisketexan 105041]

4 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Illegal aliens should be deported.  We need to stop incentivizing rule breaking.

We also need a robust guest worker program that allows migrant workers to be vetted and to legally work here.  Many would be happy to work here seasonally and then return home if they could do so without hassle.  Like the old bracero program.

Want to guess what 100% won't happen under Trump?

Your pitch is akin to "yes, you should jump out of a plane with failing engines".....presuming that part 2 of that plan ("with a parachute on") will happen.

There is zero interest in any such immigration reform from MAGA.  Less than zero.  Negative infinity type levels.  The only thing that will be a marker of success is images of pain and suffering of a brutal deportation.  None of this is about an actual economic or immigration policy.  It is about masturbatory indulgence in our worst nativist impulses, full-stop.

[Frank Drebin 5654]

Just now, Captainant said:

Even those that lied about working without authorization and went on to build politically aligned businesses?

Elon is an American citizen, last time I checked.

[Valmy77 13225]

3 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I agree with you on that.  Corporate interests.  My party has plenty of blame on that issue.

Both parties have reasons to not want that. The Democrats cannot be seen to legally support less than minimum wage labor. That is why it never happens. Dubya wanted to do it but his party revolted and the Democrats did not save it for that reason.

Just now, Frank Drebin said:

Elon is an American citizen, last time I checked.

Yeah but he was an illegal alien here at a point in the past. 

Edited November 6 by Valmy77

[Captainant 27619]

Just now, Frank Drebin said:

Elon is an American citizen, last time I checked.

How have you not read this story?

https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-citizenship-revoked-denaturalized/

Quote

In 1995, according to the Post, Musk was admitted to graduate school at Stanford but didn’t enroll in classes, instead working on an online services startup that would eventually be known as Zip2. (Stanford did not reply to requests for comment.) In 1996, the Post reported, investors made a funding agreement contingent on Musk and his brother Kimbal—who has stated that the brothers were “illegal immigrants”—obtaining authorization to work in the US within 45 days. “Their immigration status was not what it should be for them to be legally employed running a company in the US,” Zip2 board member Derek Proudian told the Post.

He gamed the system and fraudulently entered then started working under a student visa

[Frank Drebin 5654]

1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:

Both parties have reasons to not want that. The Democrats cannot be seen to legally support less than minimum wage labor. That is why it never happens. Dubya wanted to do it but his party revolted and the Democrats did not save it for that reason.

Yeah but he was an illegal alien here at a point in the past. 

Is anyone talking about deporting current American citizens who were once illegally here?  I don't see that.

[Brisketexan 105041]

2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Even those that lied about working without authorization and went on to build politically aligned businesses?

ENFORCE OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS!  THAT'S ALL WE WANT, JUST ENFORCE THE LAW AND GO AFTER PEOPLE WHO BREAK OUR LAWS!

Except, of course....

 

Exhibit number 11,985,344,556 in the case of "we are subject to laws that protect, but do not bind us, while YOU are subject to laws that bind you, but do not protect you."

[Valmy77 13225]

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

Is anyone talking about deporting current American citizens who were once illegally here?  I don't see that.

It is a joke my dude. Just poking fun at Elon.

But, you know, you seem awfully big on punishing those who break the law. He did...so...

Edited November 6 by Valmy77

[Brisketexan 105041]

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

Is anyone talking about deporting current American citizens who were once illegally here?  I don't see that.

He shouldn't be deported.  First, pursuant to the existing law, because he committed fraud in his citizenship application process, he should be denaturalized. THEN, because he is not a citizen, and he is not eligible for immigration status because of his prior fraud, he should be deported.

Enforce the law.  That's all we ask and expect, right?  That's what all of y'all have been telling us for years.  It's not about the person, or race, IT'S ABOUT THE LAW.

[hpslugga 4058]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Want to guess what 100% won't happen under Trump?

Your pitch is akin to "yes, you should jump out of a plane with failing engines".....presuming that part 2 of that plan ("with a parachute on") will happen.

There is zero interest in any such immigration reform from MAGA.  Less than zero.  Negative infinity type levels.  The only thing that will be a marker of success is images of pain and suffering of a brutal deportation.  None of this is about an actual economic or immigration policy.  It is about masturbatory indulgence in our worst nativist impulses, full-stop.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it true that when Trump was in the WH for his first two years and the GOP held both the House and Senate, the number of immigration reform legislations they sent to his desk was not greater than zero?

[Frank Drebin 5654]

1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:

It is a joke my dude. Just poking fun at Elon.

But, you know, you seem awfully big on punishing those who break the law. He did...so...

Go after him.  Just don't manufacture bullshit like was done against Trump with sham political prosecutions by prosecutors who ran on "getting" him.  Shit was shameful and the American electorate agrees with me.

[Brisketexan 105041]

Just now, hpslugga said:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it true that when Trump was in the WH for his first two years and the GOP held both the House and Senate, the number of immigration reform legislations they sent to his desk was not greater than zero?

Bingo.

Immigration has one purpose, and one purpose only in MAGA-land: to fire up nativist sentiment and rage, and inspire people to vote/act on it.

It's a strategy that works.

But note that nowhere in that status is anything even approaching "reform our current immigration system."  In fact, reforming it would be COUNTER-productive to the one purpose.  Hard to inflame people when you've resolved the issue with a balanced and rational policy.

[Valmy77 13225]

Just now, Frank Drebin said:

Go after him.  Just don't manufacture bullshit like was done against Trump with sham political prosecutions by prosecutors who ran on "getting" him.  Shit was shameful and the American electorate agrees with me.

Were they shams? Wasn't he found guilty of things? I thought we were about enforcing the law?

As for whether anybody will go after Elon, that won't happen. But it isn't up to me.

[tx 3 putt 76859]

16 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Illegal aliens should be deported.  We need to stop incentivizing rule breaking.

We also need a robust guest worker program that allows migrant workers to be vetted and to legally work here.  Many would be happy to work here seasonally and then return home if they could do so without hassle.  Like the old bracero program.

 

he’s talked about deporting naturalized citizens too

where is your line ?

[tx 3 putt 76859]

so should biden sign off on a massive weapons dump to ukraine, no restrictions ?

[Captainant 27619]

Just now, tx 3 putt said:

 

he’s talked about deporting naturalized citizens too

where is your line ?

It's wherever the Party says it needs to be. He's not using his own brain, he's an officer of the court and a church elder arguing that the trials and evidence against trump are manufactured. He lies before God and the actual factual record.