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2 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it true that when Trump was in the WH for his first two years and the GOP held both the House and Senate, the number of immigration reform legislations they sent to his desk was not greater than zero?

They didn't have time for immigration reform because they were 100% bandwidth occupied crafting a big beautiful healthcare system where insurance cost like $12/yr. Everyone was talking about how great that replacement for Obamacare was. Im sure big burly  men still approach Trump with tears in their eyes, just to thank him for his $12 health insurance plan. 

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"Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows"

 

-- Leonard Cohen

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Just now, Pancho said:

lol checked FB and all the trumpets are posting “we shouldn’t lose friends over politics” when that’s exactly what they did the last 4 years 

They're also the ones who couldn't get enough of ranting about how Biden etc. is "so divisive!  The divider in chief!"....as they proceed to engage in a fucking orgy of "fuck your feelings" and "I enjoy all the liberal tears."

Anyone who even mutters the BEGINNING of the thought that Trump will act to unify the country and be a president to all Americans should have their mouth glued shut for eternity.  He told us what he was going to do, and who he was going to do it TO.

Many of us are not "real Americans," or we're "vermin," or somesuch, and he said it plainly -- he's not going to govern for all of us.  He's coming to get us, and exact pain and retribution.

Trumpers don't believe "we shouldn't lose friends over politics."  What they believe is that we should take our beatings, abuse, and violations with a smile on our face, so as to not make them uncomfortable.

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Every four years I have to do a little purge on fb. Always randos that I kinda knew in HS that still live in that shitty town and work at the tire shop or something. You know, the people who understand economics and social issues the best. 

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28 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

like the cowardly pieces of shit you so adore, you completely skate around the fact that they love a racist GOP. You do this because you  believe the same things those racist GOP idiots believe.

You think it’s more important not to call out racists supporting  racists because it makes them feel bad. You think it’s more important not to call out stupid people for being stupid because it makes them feel bad.

You think these things are more important than not being stupid and not being racist.   and this is where we disagree.  here is a tip; they did not vote for Trump because they felt that the mean liberals called them a name or thought they were stupid. They voted for Trump because they are stupid - and because they really love them some racism and some sexism and some homophobia.  

Own it - or explain why supporting racists is not supporting racism.

So you missed the whole part where I said I hate Trump and never voted for him?  But great post bud.  Maybe go outside and take a deep breath and go for a walk.  

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7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

lol checked FB and all the trumpets are posting “we shouldn’t lose friends over politics” when that’s exactly what they did the last 4 years 

Mine are all gleefully giddy about how fucking stupid they are.  It's a bunch of Christians reveling in the tears of people who are literally afraid of what their government is about to do to them.  Families are gonna get ripped apart; mothers and fathers are gonna be sent home while their American-by-birth kids go into the foster system.  And the Christians hoot and holler.  It's fucking grotesque.

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2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Well this site isn’t exactly full of Trump voters….  

I know. Thank God. It would be like hanging out on a Sooner site right after one of our 50 point beat downs in the Mack era.

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I'm not going to hand wring every policy they pass and thing they try to do for now. They won the EC, majority vote, Senate, and House. Let's give the majority what they think they want. That's democracy, right? 

Obviously, I'm skeptical of any operation run by the incompetency of Trump and the loyalist sycophants he'll no doubt surround himself with, but who knows. Have at it for two years.

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11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Merrick Garland is winding down the DOJ's prosecutions of Trump. Spineless til the fucking end.

These were serious, serious charges. The property value thing? The classified documents one? The hush money where they had to tie it with 9 others things to make it a crime? This is BS if they drop those charges.
 

What about the Georgia thing? He asked for 11k on a call. And now they gave him an extra 150k votes. 

This won’t stand. Schiff is going to actually release the evidence now.

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5 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Mine are all gleefully giddy about how fucking stupid they are.  It's a bunch of Christians reveling in the tears of people who are literally afraid of what their government is about to do to them.  Families are gonna get ripped apart; mothers and fathers are gonna be sent home while their American-by-birth kids go into the foster system.  And the Christians hoot and holler.  It's fucking grotesque.

Y'all might as well keep receipts. It won't matter, but when they're pretending to be shocked by the horrors he unleashes it might feel good for five seconds to remind them how ecstatic they were to elect him. 

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13 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Merrick Garland is winding down the DOJ's prosecutions of Trump. Spineless til the fucking end.

Agreed on the spineless adjective, but isn't this better than handing off the case documents to Trump's DOJ?  Or am I misguided and they'll get their hands on everything either way?

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Just now, Balcones said:

These were serious, serious charges. The property value thing? The classified documents one? The hush money where they had to tie it with 9 others things to make it a crime? This is BS if they drop those charges.
 

What about the Georgia thing? He asked for 11k on a call. And now they gave him an extra 150k votes. 

This won’t stand. Schiff is going to actually release the evidence now.

Go walk in traffic. 

Just now, Old Freak Nasty said:

Agreed on the spineless adjective, but isn't this better than handing off the case documents to Trump's DOJ?  Or am I misguided and they'll get their hands on everything either way?

No. They should make Trump quash the prosecutions himself.

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1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

I'm not going to hand wring every policy they pass and thing they try to do for now. They won the EC, majority vote, Senate, and House. Let's give the majority what they think they want. That's democracy, right? 

Obviously, I'm skeptical of any operation run by the incompetency of Trump and the loyalist sycophants he'll no doubt surround himself with, but who knows. Have at it for two years.

Yeah they get to do whatever they want. And I think that's good. it always annoys me how in our system one can win an election but not actually have the power to do anything.

Trump has a mandate. He could theoretically reshape the whole system. Let's see what he does.

But I am going to do my best to ignore everything, at least until it comes time to vote again. Then I will go back and check out the carnage. I don't want to do 2017-2020 again where every week was another piece of BS to fret about.

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2 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

So 71 million people are racist….   This is a dumbass take, like I said it’s the loud minority you hear.  but keep thinking like that and calling them all names and see where that gets you next time.  

 

There’s a lot of reason people vote.  I’d hope a big portion that voted for Trump don’t actually like him but didn’t want the alternative more.  And no I’m not saying that’s right either but that’s how it is.  

No, it's not that they are racists.  They are selfish and only in this for themselves and vote according to who they think gives them the clearest path to the life they feel they deserve.  Unfortunately, that path often collides with others' paths.  Say southern white slave owner vs slave.    They feel since they are white like the founding fathers were, that they are first class citizens and all others somewhere a step below, including women.  It has much less to do with race than it does with their standard that "it's me over we.  I got mine, fuck you."    

History has is full of instances where white males went into the world and improved their physical wealth on the premise of Might over Right.  Or I guess it could be White over Right.   And too often cloaked it as some religious mission like the Crusades or Cortez.  

This has a lot more to do with the darkness of a person's heart instead of the darkness of their skin.

 

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7 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I'm not going to hand wring every policy they pass and thing they try to do for now. They won the EC, majority vote, Senate, and House. Let's give the majority what they think they want. That's democracy, right? 

Obviously, I'm skeptical of any operation run by the incompetency of Trump and the loyalist sycophants he'll no doubt surround himself with, but who knows. Have at it for two years.

Yep. This is America.

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4 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

But I am going to do my best to ignore everything, at least until it comes time to vote again. Then I will go back and check out the carnage. I don't want to do 2017-2020 again where every week was another piece of BS to fret about.

same. shut down my twitter this morning, deleted threads an i'll aim to stay out of here.

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8 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Y'all might as well keep receipts. It won't matter, but when they're pretending to be shocked by the horrors he unleashes it might feel good for five seconds to remind them how ecstatic they were to elect him. 

Absolutely this.

I'm on record as saying that the first time I hear anyone say anything like, "I never would have voted for him if I'd known it was gonna be like this," I'm gonna need to be physically restrained.

He was very clear about what he's going to do.  If you weren't listening, you shouldn't have fucking voted.

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5 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

I’m seriously worried about Ukraine now.  Hopefully he doesn’t pull everything because they will go down fast after that.  

You should always be worried about Ukraine.

And Georgia.

And Estonia.

And Latvia.

And just anybody in that neighborhood. They angered the empire. 

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3 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

same. shut down my twitter this morning, deleted threads an i'll aim to stay out of here.

Yeah I want to spend my time over the next year or so discussing Quinn Ewers and Arch Manning. Rodney Terry and Coach Schloss.

You know, stuff that matters.

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8 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Trump needs to focus on pardoning all the January 6 political prisoners.  

First order of business. 

I guess breaking the law only counts if it is people you don't like? If people you do like break the law and get prosecuted it is obviously corrupt? Alright.

But hey he can pardon them, perfectly legal, so go ahead.

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There is a scenario, I'd say even likely, that Ukraine could largely keep a stalemate for the next 2 years.  There could even be the possibility of only recoverable territory by election day 2028 depending on how the Russians can recruit and improve the quality of their troops.  But it's going to be very very grim.

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Just now, Old Freak Nasty said:

There is a scenario, I'd say even likely, that Ukraine could largely keep a stalemate for the next 2 years.  There could even be the possibility of only recoverable losses by election day 2028 depending on how the Russians can recruit and improve the quality of their troops.  But it's going to be very very grim.

Maybe your daughter should join the military so she can go over there and protect them. Isn’t she looking for things to keep her busy?

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7 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Trump needs to focus on pardoning all the January 6 political prisoners.  

First order of business. 

 

3 minutes ago, Balcones said:

Reparations as well.  After all, they were right.

What. The. Fuck.

The fact that Trump won yesterday does nothing to justify or vindicate the perpetrators of January 6th.

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Just now, Guadaloopy said:

 

What. The. Fuck.

The fact that Trump won yesterday does nothing to justify or vindicate the perpetrators of January 6th.

Ok. I think it’s pretty clear what America thinks of Trump. Popular vote and electoral college. 

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1 minute ago, Guadaloopy said:

What. The. Fuck.

The fact that Trump won yesterday does nothing to justify or vindicate the perpetrators of January 6th.

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These fucking fascists have been empowered by Elon's disinformation machine and are getting spun up to use it against trump's enemies and to beneift his allies. That's gonna include gaslighitng everyone and insisting until the useful idiots believe it that Jan6 was righteous.

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2 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

That’s not the majority though and that’s part of the problem!  Everyone is literally labeling them because of the loud minority portion and then calling anyone who votes republican names ect.  That’s part of the problem.  I think it’s dumb as shit to vote for Trump because I think he’s a horrible person but a lot of these people feel more insulted by the Democratic Party because of exactly what you and other say about them non stop these days and in the media.  

It is simply a fact that supporting the advancement of ideas, policies, and actions thru ones vote or own deeds, that have a meaningful disparate and negative impact across classes and ethnic groups of society, is part and parcel of the systemic racism abounding in society, and the vote itself is a racist act.  Of course telling the truth sounds like “looking down”.

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51 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it true that when Trump was in the WH for his first two years and the GOP held both the House and Senate, the number of immigration reform legislations they sent to his desk was not greater than zero?

This is one thing I’m comforted by. After all this time, they still only have concepts of plans. The republicans won’t even be able to agree on what to prioritize. Even if they get the house too, they pass maybe 1 piece of legislation before they lose a branch in 2026. They’d fucking BETTER address the border, right? They won’t. They’d lose their wedge issue. You’ll get executive orders and dysfunction and you’ll blame the RINOs and minority Dems. 

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2 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Just when I didn't think you could be a bigger piece of "Christian" shit.  Goddamn, you're a fucking traitor, too.

Take your Jesus and shove him up your fucking ass. 

Have you been living under a rock? Jan 6th was on the ballot, according to Harris, Walz, msNBC, 60 Minutes, etc…..  Jan 6th won. Go check the election results.

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2 minutes ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Wierdest looking selfie-stick he's holding that I've ever seen.

 

No shit. Oh, and it turns out some of them did have guns. And it also turns out that the Oath Keepers had stashed a fucking arsenal in a hotel just down the street that they'd planned to send someone to collect

Johnny knows this, he just thinks it's funny to lie about it.

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45 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Every four years I have to do a little purge on fb. Always randos that I kinda knew in HS that still live in that shitty town and work at the tire shop or something. You know, the people who understand economics and social issues the best. 

Politics aside, about once a month I look at my FB friends and play a mental game. If they are not somebody I would be genuinely happy to see in person, or would walk across the street to say hello to, in person, I unfriend them and move on. Simplifies everything. 

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5 minutes ago, G650 said:

The fact people still use FB is mind bottling

 

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

I haven’t checked it in months lol. I know why now.

All the hot moms are on Instagram now anyway.

 

Wait, there's some OTHER purpose for mainstream social media?  If there is, I don't wanna learn about it.

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8 hours ago, Newy25 said:

I think he will lower taxes (or try to depending on the congressional makeup), pass a bunch of executive orders to close the border and talk a lot of shit on social media. That’s what I think happens. Convincing yourself this is Nazi Germany is how you got here - shocked at the obvious and inevitable outcome of this election. 

You're a fucking idiot.

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