Trump’s America

[Thatguy 8678]

5 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

Glad the Democrats abstain from such viewpoints.  Despite us all being deplorable racist, sexist, fascist, and really dumb knuckle draggers.

[Pig Bellmont 8712]

4 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

I am almost positive that during Obama's tenure the "cages" were created. I could be wrong though. After the first 4 years Obama was heavily criticized and he softened his stance on the border and deportations. The point is I don't think we are going to see 7 million people deported. 

Do not “but Obama” one of the grossest human rights abuses in modern American history. Good lord

[WinningIsHard 4027]

13 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Is that what I said? Obviously no one is a monolith. I'm talking about bases. You'd agree that non-college educated is his, correct? They break for him at 63%.

I might have been looking at different data than you, sorry. The apnews demographic list I looked at showed that "some college/college" were pretty even for Harris and Trump.  

How 5 key groups voted in the 2024 Election, according to AP VoteCast data | AP News

[Brisketexan 105064]

9 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Oh....I think I disagree with that.

Seems that we've decided that theirs was actually the RIGHT side of history.   See the statements and actions already spewing forth from MAGAs since the election (oh, and know that ALL of the MAGAs are okay with them.  How do we know?  When that shit as said, ZERO MAGAs call them out and say "no, that's not what we are").  Those people just won.  The winner gets to write the book, so it turns out, they were on the right side of history all along.

Edited November 7 by Brisketexan

[WinningIsHard 4027]

7 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

to be fair to the wrong side of history, the Texas football stadium is named after the coach to have the last all white national championship football team in 1969. 

[0xdeadbeef 1645]

34 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

interesting ….

 

Maybe this will trigger an update to the (badly needed, IMO) accountability and transparency rules for the Fed.  

 

 

[linux 1660]

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Every elected politician in Washington and the Supreme Court, no matter what liberals think. I think most elected Republicans are thrilled at the prospect of never having to see Donald J. Trump on a ballot ever again.

His political career is over after his term ends. Donald Trump holding on to power after January 20, 2029 is literally the last thing you should worry about.

Only because of age and dementia, he will be too old and he will get a pardon, but I still give it good odds of happening.

[Todd Gack 432]

11 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

I am almost positive that during Obama's tenure the "cages" were created. I could be wrong though. After the first 4 years Obama was heavily criticized and he softened his stance on the border and deportations. The point is I don't think we are going to see 7 million people deported. 

My memory is fuzzy on this but IIRC, the cages were used solely to house the children of known criminals who crossed illegally - primarily drug and human traffickers.  The parents were kept in jails awaiting trial and deportation and Obama admin had the cages made so the kids wouldn't have to stay in jail with other (presumably dangerous) criminals.

Again, I could be way off on that but that's what I remember hearing from my sister who is an immigration attorney in the Valley.

Trump used the cages to separate families who entered through ports of entry to LEGALLY claim asylum.  And of course he did it so incompetently that some families had to wait months to be reunited.

[Thatguy 8678]

2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Somebody please explain to me how 7 million people will be deported. Let’s forget that no one ever asked Trump how he’s going to pay for his policies, let’s just start with who will be making arrests. The military? Local police? The FBI? And how is this going to work- SWAT teams roll into an immigrant rich neighborhood with cops demanding to see proof of citizenship or visa papers for every brown person on the street? 
 

Next, I’d like to hear about how our backlogged immigration courts are going to hear and process 7 million deportation orders. 
 

Where is the government going to house and feed these 7 million people while their cases are decided?

My prediction is that they will make as much progress with these deportations as they did on building the fucking wall

check the debt and deficit from Obama Out to January 2020.

[tx 3 putt 76870]

6 minutes ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

Maybe this will trigger an update to the (badly needed, IMO) accountability and transparency rules for the Fed.  

 

 

 

they have to swear their loyalty to trump before given a chance to take office ?

[C-Man 27187]

You thought they were incels before!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/11/07/liberal-women-4b-sex-strike-over-trump-election-win/

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Liberal women have sworn to go on sex strike over Donald Trump’s election win.

Mr Trump swept to victory in Tuesday’s presidential race that Democrats cast as a referendum on abortion rights and protections for women.

Some women are now threatening to punish men for voting for Trump, taking inspiration from a Korean feminist movement that vows to withhold sex from men in order to redefine the gender power balance.

Interest in the “4B movement” spiked since Kamala Harris’s defeat, with women sharing videos of themselves on social media pledging to commit to its four “no’s” — no sex, no dating or marriage and no having children with men — for the next four years.

In one video shared on TikTok, a young woman pledges to go celibate and encourages others to delete dating apps in order to “exercise sovereignty” over their bodies.

“As a woman, my bodily autonomy matters and this is my way to exercise sovereignty over that,” she says.

“So I highly encourage any other women who are single and still care about progressing women’s rights and still fighting for our bodily autonomy to do the same. Delete your dating apps.”

The woman also encourages others to seek out their female friends for comfort “if you need somebody to cuddle” and describes the 4B movement, which originated in South Korea, as a “point of inspiration”.

The US election revealed a gender divide in the electorate, with 55 per cent of men turning out for Mr Trump and 53 per cent of women voting for Ms Harris.

The president-elect touted his role in overturning Roe v Wade, a ruling that ended the nationwide right to abortion, throughout his election campaign and has been repeatedly accused of making offensive comments about women.

In response, some have blamed sexism for America’s decision to return Mr Trump to the White House.

“Men will always be against women,” read the caption in one TikTok video of a young woman crying in a car, encouraging women to join the 4B movement. “Women are just as capable to be presidents as a man.”

In another video, a woman says that “for the next four years I am going to abstain from sex with men”.

A separate video was captioned: “I think it’s time for American women to participate in our own 4B movement.”

Many of the videos addressed concerns over abortion, which was on the ballot in 10 states and was central to the Harris campaign.

“If men won’t respect our bodies, they don’t get access to our bodies,” one woman said. “All I have to say is, good luck getting laid. Especially in Florida, because me and my girlies are participating in the 4B movement.”

In a further video, one woman said: “I personally think if all these men are voting to take our rights away, they don’t deserve to touch a woman for the next four years. So, hope you thought that through you guys.”

An obscure, largely online branch of Korean feminism, the 4B Movement started in the mid 2010s, around the same time as the #MeToo movement in the US, in response to a wave of reports about violence towards women, and gender equality issues.

It stands for four Korean words that begin with “bi” or “no” in English. Bihon means no heterosexual marriage, bichulsan means no childbirth, biyeonae means no dating, and bisekseu signifies no heterosexual sexual relationships.

It is unclear how widespread the movement is in Korea, but it has met with a backlash from some disgruntled men, who have coined the term “kimchinyeo,” or “kimchee women,” to characterise college-educated women as “selfish, vain, and exploitative of their partners”.

 

[Thatguy 8678]

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

Who the fuck is this dude? That is some Hall-of-Fame level white privilege to sit there and casually spell all that out while eating and being recorded with zero fear of getting your ass kicked or your life ruined by the video.

It's like you haven't been on social media n 2024 at all lol

[aggie08 21488]

1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

It's like you haven't been on social media n 2024 at all lol

Guilty as charged.

[wildcat09 29345]

Jesus, is some asshole spreading that bullshit "family separation started under Obama shit again?

[Pancho 44708]

 

[WinningIsHard 4027]

1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Jesus, is some asshole spreading that bullshit "family separation started under Obama shit again?

no some asshole isn't, some asshole is saying Obama was actually hard on the border/deportations and then softened. Trump just talks shit. Your avatar is fitting for how you're posting today. 

[RomaVicta 29902]

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Which is why I don't believe for one second that mass deportation will happen. They'll be content with harassing just enough people to make the base think they being tough on immigration. It's completely cynical.

 

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

No it fucking isn't you moron. The people he is hiring are racist true believers and are absolutely rabidly dedicated to deporting and/or simply murdering as many immigrants as they can.

I'm probably way behind, but this exchange interests me as a policy matter.

How would the logistics of arresting them, transporting them to camps, setting up those camps, and maintaining those camps even at the cruel level Trump would prefer work?

To where would Trump deport millions of undocumented immigrants? 

Sounds like it will be far more difficult than building a wall, and we all saw how that went.

So, Donald will classify millions of people as not belonging here at all. They are a threat to us and our pets. What do you do while you're waiting for the Trump Troopers to come remove them? You must protect yourself and your family!

 

 

[Hank_Hill 18791]

3 hours ago, Pancho said:

Oofff, Elmo is already tweeting proposed policy and it’s not good.

Glad politicians don’t control social media anymore! Good job Musk.

[Brisketexan 105064]

6 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

How would the logistics of arresting them, transporting them to camps, setting up those camps, and maintaining those camps even at the cruel level Trump would prefer work?

Well, see, here's how it will go.

1) Brisket will approach his soon-to-be-friends in the Trump administration.  He will promise DJT that half of all dollars the government spends on BrisketCo's Internment Camp construction contract will be funneled off to Trump business entities, with no expectation of any product or work on their end.

2) BrisketCo will be awarded MASSIVE contracts to construct Internment Camps.

3) BrisketCo will either not deliver at all, or will deliver sub-standard products, and CEO Brisket will pocket an 8-figure salary on the job.  So when BrisketCo goes tits up, it don't make a shit to Brisket, cuz Brisket got PAID.

 

That pretty much covers it.

[Hmbre97 6305]

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

We'll see what happens. I don't buy it, but you could be right.

Yeah, I'm sure

 

THIS GUY is going to soften his tone on deporting immigrants.

Let's go to Stephen Miller for comment:

 

[Frank Drebin 5655]

19 minutes ago, C-Man said:

You thought they were incels before!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/11/07/liberal-women-4b-sex-strike-over-trump-election-win/

 

 

How many are worth sleeping with? 10% max? Unless your into fat purple/blue hair with nose rings.

I would recommend only dating conservative women.  A whole lot better looking, nicer, and with a lot less likelihood of mental illness.

[Goofyboy 3269]

FYI - Steven Miller has already stated that they plan on implementing a de-naturalization process in 2025. So, all those folks that are naturalized citizens, start making plans.

[mchookem 16321]

3 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

 

How many are worth sleeping with? 10% max? Unless your into fat purple/blue hair with nose rings.

I would recommend only dating conservative women.  A whole lot better looking, nicer, and with a lot less likelihood of mental illness.

 

also *you're

[Constant 6723]

1 minute ago, Goofyboy said:

FYI - Steven Miller has already stated that they plan on implementing a de-naturalization process in 2025. So, all those folks that are naturalized citizens, start making plans.

I’m sure they’ll stop there too. They’re known for their ability to control themselves. 

[wildcat09 29345]

13 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

 

I'm probably way behind, but this exchange interests me as a policy matter.

How would the logistics of arresting them, transporting them to camps, setting up those camps, and maintaining those camps even at the cruel level Trump would prefer work?

To where would Trump deport millions of undocumented immigrants? 

Sounds like it will be far more difficult than building a wall, and we all saw how that went.

So, Donald will classify millions of people as not belonging here at all. They are a threat to us and our pets. What do you do while you're waiting for the Trump Troopers to come remove them? You must protect yourself and your family!

 

 

How it will probably work is that the logistics will be too complicated for them to figure out and they’ll just start shooting people.

[GenXer 2850]

6 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

 

How many are worth sleeping with? 10% max? Unless your into fat purple/blue hair with nose rings.

I would recommend only dating conservative women.  A whole lot better looking, nicer, and with a lot less likelihood of mental illness.

Dude

[Constant 6723]

5 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

 

How many are worth sleeping with? 10% max? Unless your into fat purple/blue hair with nose rings.

I would recommend only dating conservative women.  A whole lot better looking, nicer, and with a lot less likelihood of mental illness.

 

And you call others bigots. 

[Hank_Hill 18791]

7 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

 

How many are worth sleeping with? 10% max? Unless your into fat purple/blue hair with nose rings.

I would recommend only dating conservative women.  A whole lot better looking, nicer, and with a lot less likelihood of mental illness.

Yea the ladies at Walmart are well balanced lookers for sure

[RomaVicta 29902]

2 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

You don't think the left gets misinformed by the media on topics?

You remember when Morning Joe talked about Biden's mental acuity?

Or liberals thinking Covid had something like a 30% mortality rate?

Or this after George Floyd:

 

We have a very misinformed electorate.  That shit ain't limited to the GOP.  How many idiot democrats on Tuesday had to Google whether Joe Biden was still on the ballot?

One side actively seeks "misinformation" to justify their hate and fear. Or maybe they seek lies and liars; I'm not really sure of the difference between intentionally generated "misinformation/false statements" and lies.

2 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

Once everything crashes jenga style, as it always does, a lot of non voters and idiots are going to be without a job and a house with high food and gas prices.  Not going to say I told you so, but you're welcome.  Reality will bite especially hard those that don't subscribe to it.  Good luck, and I mean it, because we already know what comes next.  

More than anything, I really hope we don't have another global epidemic.  Wait, I already mostly work from home.  Carry on then. 

The Mexicans are poisoning the wells!

[softlynow 1812]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Why are people assuming these deportations will follow any type of due process?

Yep. Brown folks whisked away to a random place outside the U.S. Eventually something gets in front of a judge. If it's a Trumper, end of the road, petition dismissed. If it's not, maybe some ruling gets handed down 18 months after the state-sanctioned kidnapping. 10 days later SCOTUS disposes of that ruling by way of the shadow docket, with mootness (we don't even know where they are now!) and immunity will likely do some heavy lifting, because these crimes will all be direct orders from DOTUS.

[wildcat09 29345]

9 minutes ago, GenXer said:

Dude

That's Johnny's fetish.

[Macklemore 2876]

2 hours ago, Goofyboy said:

Why do the democrats have to be the adults in the room? If everyone thinks Trump and co are going to wipe their ass with the Constitution, why not go first?? Fuck peaceful handover of power. They won’t do it - why should we at this point? Biden or Harris - dictator it up. They have immunity. Go for it.

Love to see y’all try that. You think the base is radicalized now just wait after attempting to pull off a coup. It would be the best thing to ever happen for those of us who cherish the Second Amendment. We will have a whole new slate of citizen patriots on our side to mythologize for the next century. I’m salivating at the  thought. Please make it happen.

Edited November 7 by Macklemore

[David Dennison 18849]

19 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

FYI - Steven Miller has already stated that they plan on implementing a de-naturalization process in 2025. So, all those folks that are naturalized citizens, start making plans.

I can't wait to watch this play out.

[Colonel Sanders 1336]

I realize this is petty, but someone probably bet the house Wednesday morning premarket on DJT, only to have it lose half its value in less than 48 hours.  This warms my heart just a smidge.

[Willfully Horn 8001]

2 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

How nice and bigoted of you.

I think he is talking about your ilk, those who claim to be Christian, but whose content of character is awful. I certainly think you give Christians a bad name, based on your posts, and would be willing to print out your posts and visit, with priests and pastors of the five largest denominations and seek their opinion on how well you walk the talk.

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

My earliest ancestors arrived in the new world in 1715. That guys comments would make my ancestors skin crawl. I say this with confidence, as they were Quakers.

 

Also, and it has probably been said, Texas secession would increase, not decrease, the burden of red taker states. Texas is a donor state.

[Hank_Hill 18791]

4 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Love to see y’all try that. You think the base is radicalized now just wait after attempting to pull off a coup. It would be the best thing to ever happen for those of us who cherish the Second Amendment. We will have a whole new slate of citizen patriots on our side to mythologize for the next century. I’m salivating at the  thought. Please make it happen.

Lol and some of you say we need to treat these people kindly on this board. 

[4th&Five 41511]

4 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Love to see y’all try that. You think the base is radicalized now just wait after attempting to pull off a coup. It would be the best thing to ever happen for those of us who cherish the Second Amendment. We will have a whole new slate of citizen patriots on our side to mythologize for the next century. I’m salivating at the  thought. Please make it happen.

[G650 14238]

8 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Love to see y’all try that. You think the base is radicalized now just wait after attempting to pull off a coup. It would be the best thing to ever happen for those of us who cherish the Second Amendment. We will have a whole new slate of citizen patriots on our side to mythologize for the next century. I’m salivating at the  thought. Please make it happen.

Lol. Look at this pussy

[immamac 42835]

52 minutes ago, C-Man said:

You thought they were incels before!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/11/07/liberal-women-4b-sex-strike-over-trump-election-win/

 

White women did this to themselves. 

[Biff Tannen 45665]

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

White women did this to themselves. 

Did I hear correctly that female turnout was the lowest in 20 years?

[mchookem 16321]

as did latinos, black men, young people, etc...oh well

 

 

[aggie08 21488]

13 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Love to see y’all try that. You think the base is radicalized now just wait after attempting to pull off a coup. It would be the best thing to ever happen for those of us who cherish the Second Amendment. We will have a whole new slate of citizen patriots on our side to mythologize for the next century. I’m salivating at the  thought. Please make it happen.

I get satisfaction from knowing that every time Macklemore opens his mouth about politics in public--and you know he's the kind of douchebag that does it all the fucking time--everyone just starts saying "uh huh" on tuned out repeat, looking around, checking their phones, tapping their feet, pretending they have a watch on their wrist, just hoping he'll pick up on a single social cue to stop talking.

Even those with similar voter patterns walk away saying, "holy shit, what a nutjob."

I know a few Macklemores myself.

Edited November 7 by aggie08

[MissingInAction 25010]

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[Brisketexan 105064]

9 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

I certainly think you give Christians a bad name

He really doesn't.  His honesty and frankness, and willingness to show his true colors, gives Christians an ACCURATE name.

He is what Christians in this country really are.

[Evil Bill Obrien 3259]

3 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Somebody please explain to me how 7 million people will be deported. Let’s forget that no one ever asked Trump how he’s going to pay for his policies, let’s just start with who will be making arrests. The military? Local police? The FBI? And how is this going to work- SWAT teams roll into an immigrant rich neighborhood with cops demanding to see proof of citizenship or visa papers for every brown person on the street? 
 

Next, I’d like to hear about how our backlogged immigration courts are going to hear and process 7 million deportation orders. 
 

Where is the government going to house and feed these 7 million people while their cases are decided?

My prediction is that they will make as much progress with these deportations as they did on building the fucking wall

Dunno about any of your other questions, I quite frankly keep asking myself how Donald and MAGA GOP will explain away the massive loss of labor supply to people who own business who employ these immigrants (construction, agriculture, service industries, etc) who probably voted for Trump thinking "Surely he means the other immigrants, not the ones who I get to benefit paying low wages to" (Leopard Eats Face)... But I defiantly know the answer to your bolded question: Camps, like this lovely Internment Camp in Arizona circa 1942:

 

Edited November 7 by Evil Bill Obrien

[Goofyboy 3269]

He really doesn't.  His honesty and frankness, and willingness to show his true colors, gives Christians an ACCURATE name.
He is what Christians in this country really are.

Exactly. Dress up like a bum and see how long till you’re escorted from the premises of one of the bigger churches in Houston. Their jesus doesn’t like the poor.

[David Dennison 18849]

3 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

I quite frankly keep asking myself how Donald and MAGA GOP will explain away the massive loss of labor supply to people who own business who employ these immigrants (construction, agriculture, service industries, etc) who probably voted for Trump

They'll harass just enough unfortunate people to make it look like they're super serious about mass deportation. The press will send cameras. Reporters will be concerned. Then Americans will get distracted and we'll go back to business as usual enjoying the fruits of an economy that makes widespread use of undocumented workers.

That's what I think will happen, anyway. 

But the really bad stuff might happen. Or rather they might try to make it happen.

[tx 3 putt 76870]

11 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Dunno about any of your other questions, I quite frankly keep asking myself how Donald and MAGA GOP will explain away the massive loss of labor supply to people who own business who employ these immigrants (construction, agriculture, service industries, etc) who probably voted for Trump thinking "Surely he means the other immigrants, not the ones who I get to benefit paying low wages to"... But I defiantly know the answer to your bolded question: Camps, like this lovely Internment Camp in Arizona circa 1942:

 

 

obama admin deported a lot of people, no camps were needed 

it takes a lot of time to round up a million people

[royiv 9251]

48 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

 

How many are worth sleeping with? 10% max? Unless your into fat purple/blue hair with nose rings.

I would recommend only dating conservative women.  A whole lot better looking, nicer, and with a lot less likelihood of mental illness.

 

So hot!

[Macklemore 2876]

28 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Lol and some of you say we need to treat these people kindly on this board. 

INSURRECTIONIST!!!!