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My wife went upstairs to wake our kids up this morning.   As she woke up our 12 year old daughter, the first thing she asked was who won the election.  My wife tells her Trump did, and she started to

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This could go anywhere, but a neighbor I barely know just stopped me on a dog walk to say how happy she was about the election. I tried to brush it off but she just kept going. When she said something

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Congrats on you and your wife failing as parents and raising a generation of pussies. 

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Love this Popok dude ... Here he delves into lawful orders, unlawful orders, court challenges, and how military leaders might respond or push back against unlawful ones.

 

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21 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:


Anyone that pushes back gets replaced.

I'll believe they'll push back when I see them push back. 

This shit should have been gotten rid of between 2017 and 2020 when they had the chance, but they were too greedy and/or cowardly to do it. Now they're going to all of a sudden stand up?

The Constitution is over. Done. Anyone in the fed who doesn't do what these fucks want will be run off. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they release their names, address, family members, kid's schools, etc publicly to intimidate anyone else who thinks they might want to resist. 

Luckily, my wife has dual citizenship and our kids have it too. Right now we're keeping it in the back pocket only to use of shit really hits the fan, but the question is who is going to stop it?

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3 hours ago, C-Man said:

This is fine.
 

For the record, I am all for rights not stopping at state lines so long as we're consistent on that.

I'm sure all our recent migrants from texags agree, right?

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Andy Borowitz with some hopium/copium: https://www.borowitzreport.com/p/what-happens-next-maybe-what-happened

(Friends: TBR Sunday Read is normally for paid subscribers, but this hasn’t been a normal week—so I’m making this story free for everybody. Thanks, as always, for supporting my work. Love, Andy)

Maybe you’ve been asking yourself:

1. “How could Donald Trump have won 51 percent of the popular vote?”

2. “How hard is it to immigrate to New Zealand?”

3. “What the actual fuck?”

Fair questions.

Let’s try a thought experiment. Could Tuesday’s election results have been any worse?

Well, what if, instead of 51 percent, the Republican nominee had won 59 percent? Or 61 percent? And what if he had won 49 states?

Those aren’t hypotheticals. Those were the results of the 1972 and 1984 landslides that reelected Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan.

With thumping victories like those, what could possibly go wrong for the winners?

If history’s any guide, some nasty surprises await Donald Trump.

In 1972, the Democratic presidential nominee, George McGovern, won just 37.5 percent of the vote, carrying only Massachusetts and the District of Columbia for a total of 17 Electoral College votes. He didn’t even win his home state, South Dakota.

In 1984, Democrat Walter Mondale did carry his native Minnesota, but that was as good as it got for him. In the Electoral College, he fared even worse than McGovern, with a whopping 13 votes.

In the aftermath of these thrashings, the Democratic Party lay in smoldering ruins, and Republicans looked like indestructible conquerors.

Now, some might argue that those GOP victories, though statistically more resounding than Trump’s, weren’t nearly as alarming, because he’s a criminal and wannabe autocrat.

But Trump’s heinousness shouldn’t make us nostalgic for Nixon and Reagan. They were also criminals—albeit unindicted ones. And they were up to all manner of autocratic shit—until they got caught.

The Watergate scandal was only one small part of the sprawling criminal enterprise that Nixon directed from the Oval Office in order to subvert democracy. For his part, Reagan’s contribution to the annals of presidential crime, Iran-Contra, broke myriad laws and violated Constitutional norms.

The hubris engendered by both men’s landslides propelled them to reckless behavior in their second terms—behavior that came back to haunt them. Nixon was forced to resign the presidency; Reagan was lucky to escape impeachment.


After the Watergate scandal forced Richard Nixon from office, this bumper sticker helped Massachusetts voters brag that they handed him his only Electoral College loss in 1972.
Of course, Trump would be justified in believing that no matter how reckless he becomes, he’ll never pay a price. He’s already been impeached—twice—only to be acquitted by his Republican toadies in the Senate. And now that the right-wing supermajority of the Supreme Court has adorned him with an immunity idol, he’ll likely feel free to commit crimes that Nixon and Reagan could only dream of. Who’ll stop him from using his vast power to persecute his voluminous list of enemies?

Well, the enemy most likely to thwart Trump in his second term might be one who isn’t on his list: himself. The seeds of Trump’s downfall may reside in two promises he made to win this election: the mass deportation of immigrants and the elimination of inflation.

Trump’s concept of a plan to deport 20 million immigrants is as destined for success as were two of his other brainchildren, Trump University and Trump Steaks. The US doesn’t have anything approaching the law-enforcement capacity to realize this xenophobic fever dream.

And as for Trump’s war on inflation, the skyrocketing prices caused by his proposed tariffs will make Americans nostalgic for pandemic-era price-gouging on Charmin.

It's possible that Trump’s 24/7 disinformation machine, led by Batman villains Rupert Murdoch, Tucker Carlson, and Elon Musk, will prevent his MAGA followers from ever discovering that 20 million immigrants didn’t go anywhere. And it’s possible that if inflation spikes, he’ll find a scapegoat for that. (Nancy Pelosi? Dr. Fauci? Taylor Swift?)

And, yes, it’s possible that Trump will somehow accomplish his goal of becoming America’s Kim Jong Un, and our democracy will go belly-up like the Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City.

But I wouldn’t bet on it. I tend to agree with the British politician Enoch Powell (1912-1998), who observed that all political careers end in failure. I doubt that Trump, with his signature blend of inattention, impulsiveness, and incompetence, will avoid that fate.

And when the ketchup hits the fan, the MAGA movement may suddenly appear far more fragmented and fractious than it does this week. You can already see the cracks. Two towering ignoramuses like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert should be BFFs, but they despise each other—the only policy of theirs I agree with.

If things really go south, expect MAGA Republicans to devour each other as hungrily as the worm who feasted on RFK Jr.’s brain—and that, my friends, will be worth binge-watching. I’m stocking up on popcorn now before Trumpflation makes it unaffordable.


Marjorie Taylor Greene (L), wishing a space laser would strike Lauren Boebert ®. (Win McNamee/Getty Images)
One parting thought. Post-election, the mainstream media’s hyperbolic reassessment of Trump—apparently, he’s now a political genius in a league with Talleyrand and Metternich—has been nauseating. It’s also insanely short-sighted. Again, a look at the not-so-distant past is instructive.

In 1984, after Reagan romped to victory with 59 percent of the popular vote and 525 electoral votes, Reaganism was universally declared an unstoppable juggernaut. But only two years later, in the 1986 midterms, Democrats proved the pundits wrong: they regained control of both the House and Senate for the first time since 1980. Those majorities enabled them to slam the brakes on Ronnie’s right-wing agenda, block the Supreme Court nomination of Robert Bork, and investigate Iran-Contra.

The lesson of the 1986 midterms is clear: the game’s far from over and there’s everything to play for. If we want to stem the tide of autocracy and kleptocracy, restore women’s rights and protect the most vulnerable, we don’t have the luxury of despair. The work starts now.



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10 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Light at the end of the tunnel-

All of what you wrote is true. However, I want to add to this. People are going to get hurt. Displaced. Even lose their lives. However, conservatives have never won.

January 1, 1863 there was a little thing called the Emancipation Proclamation. Conservatives were big mad. We fought a war. They lost. During the Reconstruction black people had a sliver of progress. We were free. We opened businesses. We even took places of office. Like now the conservatives got upset. They used "States Rights" to absolutely bury the black community for decades but it ultimately prevailed. They lost to women's rights. Gay rights. They have never won a battle against social progress. They've only succeeded in slowing it down momentarily. Even though things appear to be ugly right now, and they ARE very ugly, black people don't gain equal right without caring whites. Women don't gain equal rights without caring men. Gay people don't gain equal right without caring heteros. There are a lot of good people out there it's just hard to hear them through all the hate. Ultimately we are going to win this thing, we always do. Not without a lot of pain and suffering. Conservatives are going to do what they always do and make it so bad that people say enough. We are in the middle of our version of the 1950's. The 60's are coming.

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10 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I understand your point, but I think you've got the Decade wrong. 2024 was our 1968, when the hippies and people who cared about social justice began to write off areas of the country they didn't care about and retreated to safe spaces like Austin and San Fransisco and LA, and a recent period of chaos ushered in a long,dark period of moral and sociocultural decline. 

But I think Bozo is closer to correct here, though on a more drawn out than analogous decades. The social contract has been gradually unraveling since at least the Great Recession, maybe earlier. 

If I were to give an actual analogous decade I'd go back to the 1870's; the start of Gilded Age. Deeply divided nation; patronage, corruption, and an enormous partisan gulf in government thtat doesn't accomplish much of note for the people. A clawback of social progress in the south - today it's less geographically stark but the cultural divide stems from the grievances of the south from the civil war era. Rapid economic growth driven by technological advancement, staggering wealth inequality. I think we're basically on the early end of a second Gilded Age.

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2 hours ago, bolverk said:

Highly recommend this evening's "Last Week Tonight" for those who might be inclined:

  • How we got here
  • What to expect
  • What do we do about it

Says it's disabled here. Is he in the UK, or where? Asking for my vpn ...

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Says it's disabled here. Is he in the UK, or where? Asking for my vpn ...

I stream it on the MAX app. Their YouTube channel will often post just about the full segment sometime later in the week.

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I stream it on the MAX app. Their YouTube channel will often post just about the full segment sometime later in the week.

Awesome. Just started it on MAX.

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How do we know who wrote it? Not doubting you. I wanna use this on another board.

Homan joined the Heritage Foundation in February 2022 and became a contributor to its Project 2025, which proposes mass arrests, detentions and deportations of undocumented immigrants across the nation.

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Where have we seen this before?  Seems we are near the climax of Mein Kampf and after the inauguration comes the night of the long knives.  At least half the population is supportive of a dictatorship and it does not appear that some god is going to save us.  Truly "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

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6 hours ago, gmr548 said:

X-Files Santa GIF by Sean Solomon

But I think Bozo is closer to correct here, though on a more drawn out than analogous decades. The social contract has been gradually unraveling since at least the Great Recession, maybe earlier. 

If I were to give an actual analogous decade I'd go back to the 1870's; the start of Gilded Age. Deeply divided nation; patronage, corruption, and an enormous partisan gulf in government thtat doesn't accomplish much of note for the people. A clawback of social progress in the south - today it's less geographically stark but the cultural divide stems from the grievances of the south from the civil war era. Rapid economic growth driven by technological advancement, staggering wealth inequality. I think we're basically on the early end of a second Gilded Age.

This is true but back then there was no internet and information wasn't shared as quickly people had no way of knowing what was happening to them so things moved slower. You think Jim Crowe would've lasted as long if videos and stories of mangled bodies hanging from trees were circulating as they happened? Black people were being "Rodney King'd" for 100 years and no one believed then video cameras changed all that in a couple decades. We ARE in the middle of a second Gilded Age, and have been for awhile. However, people already have the information they need about what happens when they allow the things that lead to that, they just don't believe it currently. However, as soon as it actually starts affecting them they will mentally be able to reference the millions of "I Told You So's" on social media. Things move faster now. If marginalized groups were the only ones who were going to suffer I would say it's going to last a long time. However, the American people, fascist as they might be, are not going to take Christo-fascism. That will be the straw that breaks the camels back. White men, the ruling class, are not going to take oppression, and Christo-fascism is oppression for all.

 

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17 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Hard agree

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Is there a brief synopsis of this. Maybe add a note about why I should care.

12 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Well apparently message board admins like @immamac disabled the link to CR and its equivalents for these shitheads until the election was over.  That's the most likely explanation for why you never saw them for the last four years, right?  I begrudgingly give @Incredulity some credit on this one.  He wasn't here non stop, but he did post his bullshit takes often enough that you could say he wasn't dodging the place.

ETA: Compliments to @Incredulity. His/her takes on specific topics are not boilerplate talking points. 

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18 hours ago, workswithseed said:

I mean I really don't see nothing wrong with (lol, you used it) charity. Hell, the ACA isn't gone, and he still needs help. It's not an own, it shows that it's not working for him.

After 4 years, the maga cocksucker from Houston and the broke-ass maga corner beggar from Portland showed back up.  

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Fucking pussies. 

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People will put up with a lot of shit. As long as they have what they want to focus on, they will talk about bad events, but do little about it. The desire for safety and security, with external threats being pumped into their feeds, is a form of control. We are in a country and period where people will complain about the cost of eggs but talk about how great their stock is doing. Drive a big ass truck, complain about fuel costs. Are these complaints real? Maybe.  But let me ask, would you prefer the market collapse but food be cheap?

We as a nation have allowed the wants to take over the needs. I have heard people bitch about the cost of avocados. We do not grow avocados. And though I love them, we do not need them.

There was a good song written in Austin in 1999. Called Election Dejection. Wish I could find it.

Where do you think the White Man will be oppressed under Trump? 82nd Airborne taking Katy?

 

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9 hours ago, Hermanator said:

The Constitution is over. Done. Anyone in the fed who doesn't do what these fucks want will be run off. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they release their names, address, family members, kid's schools, etc publicly to intimidate anyone else who thinks they might want to resist. 

Yes, goddamn it.

They've already pretty much made it open season on anyone who looks like a candidate for the deportation concentration camps.

Joyful cruelty becomes our brand.

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13 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

This is true but back then there was no internet and information wasn't shared as quickly people had no way of knowing what was happening to them so things moved slower. You think Jim Crowe would've lasted as long if videos and stories of mangled bodies hanging from trees were circulating as they happened? Black people were being "Rodney King'd" for 100 years and no one believed then video cameras changed all that in a couple decades. We ARE in the middle of a second Gilded Age, and have been for awhile. However, people already have the information they need about what happens when they allow the things that lead to that, they just don't believe it currently. However, as soon as it actually starts affecting them they will mentally be able to reference the millions of "I Told You So's" on social media. Things move faster now. If marginalized groups were the only ones who were going to suffer I would say it's going to last a long time. However, the American people, fascist as they might be, are not going to take Christo-fascism. That will be the straw that breaks the camels back. White men, the ruling class, are not going to take oppression, and Christo-fascism is oppression for all.

 

“Things move faster.” Got that right. As soon as Trumps people notice they’re becoming unpopular he just issues an executive order that he fills all congressional seats by appointment, no more federal elections necessary. SCOTUS affirms the dismissal of lawsuit under the political question doctrine. In Jan 2027, there will be no opposition to his whims  

These fucks don’t play by rules. Stop pretending there is anything standing between us and total oligarchic hegemony other than the particulars. 

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3 minutes ago, softlynow said:

“Things move faster.” Got that right. As soon as Trumps people notice they’re becoming unpopular he just issues an executive order that he fills all congressional seats by appointment, no more federal elections necessary. SCOTUS affirms the dismissal of lawsuit under the political question doctrine. In Jan 2027, there will be no opposition to his whims  

These fucks don’t play by rules. Stop pretending there is anything standing between us and total oligarchic hegemony other than the particulars. 

This.  I've moved lock, stock and two smoking barrels back to The Ledge.

We're done as a democracy. 

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41 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

People will put up with a lot of shit. As long as they have what they want to focus on, they will talk about bad events, but do little about it. The desire for safety and security, with external threats being pumped into their feeds, is a form of control. We are in a country and period where people will complain about the cost of eggs but talk about how great their stock is doing. Drive a big ass truck, complain about fuel costs. Are these complaints real? Maybe.  But let me ask, would you prefer the market collapse but food be cheap?

We as a nation have allowed the wants to take over the needs. I have heard people bitch about the cost of avocados. We do not grow avocados. And though I love them, we do not need them.

There was a good song written in Austin in 1999. Called Election Dejection. Wish I could find it.

Where do you think the White Man will be oppressed under Trump? 82nd Airborne taking Katy?

 

People will put up with a lot if they still have cheap food and cheap entertainment.

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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Is there a brief synopsis of this. Maybe add a note about why I should care.

ETA: Compliments to @Incredulity. His/her takes on specific topics are not boilerplate talking points. 

Looks like PBFC syndrome to me...Plumb Bug Fkn Crazy

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https://www.silive.com/news/2012/07/grimm_gop_vote_to_repeal_presi.html

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-michael-grimm-walk-again?qid=9eddcbffec8e0236eb47ae98badee781

I actually don't like that my response to these stories is at best asympathetic but mostly, "Yeah? Fuck you, fascist."

I begin to think my emotional resignation since the election has to do with the clear vision that election gives to what this country wants and who most of us want to be.

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However, the American people, fascist as they might be, are not going to take Christo-fascism. That will be the straw that breaks the camels back. White men, the ruling class, are not going to take oppression, and Christo-fascism is oppression for all.

Oh....my sweet summer child.

Let me change that for you, so you realize how foolish it looks:

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However, the German people, fascist as they might be, are not going to take militarized fascism. That will be the straw that breaks the camels back. White men, the ruling class, are not going to take oppression, and militarized fascism is oppression for all.

You are not paying attention.  The "Christo" is just the wrapping paper around the rank turd that is fascist authoritarianism.  We WANT authoritarianism.  We just voted for it.  We are absolutely going to take it, we are going to cheer it on.  The Trumpkins on here who are currently mocking us for pointing out where this is going will either be totally silent when it comes, or will be here to justify it, telling us "well, he HAS to suspend the rule of law to take our country back!  That's what patriots do!"

You fucking know how this goes.  You don't want to know it.  You don't want to acknowledge it.  But...you know.

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Fun little twitter thread of people ranting and raving about the shady shit new MUD’s do to get bonds passed:

lot of the people in the replies screaming for Ken Paxton and Greg Abbott to investigate are gonna be pretty sad when they realize they probably helped set up the rules that let MUDs pull this kind of shady crap…

 

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