Trump’s America

[Goofyboy 3,248]

The military not being beholden to the President might actually come to a head. Leaders of the military might stand up to Trump at some point. They swear their oath to the constitution. Start bullshit treason stuff against military folks and that might not go well.

This is going to be a shit show.

[TwiceHorn 31,355]

39 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Wait wut?  The withdrawal that he blamed on Biden?  

It's a pretext to fuck over Milley.  

I realize the legal system may be precarious at this point, but I'm hoping it holds long enough to keep these fuckers at bay.

And, there's that damn pesky definition of treason coming to the rescue again.

Also UCMJ does not contain a crime of treason.  It has mutiny for rebellion against military authority and sedition for civil authority.  Neither of which would apply here.

Edited 12 hours ago by TwiceHorn

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20 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Lots blame it on Biden. As if Doha accords and that little thing like wanting to invite the Taliban to camp david never happened.

 

5D chess 

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[Bozo_Casanova 26,370]

9 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

 

I realize the legal system may be precarious at this point

“May?”

[Brisketexan 104,783]

“May?”

Yeah…as someone who has had to materially adjust his entire professional approach to account for “I know what the law says, but they’re gonna do whatever Newsmax tells em to”….sing it, brother.

[softlynow 1,794]

5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

“May?”

It’s still sending poor non-violent offenders to prison for long stretches, and doing nothing* to set them on a better path after release so it’s still working as intended. 

*Well, they do wring as much money out of they families through privatized phone services and commissary sales of luxuries like soap and toothbrushes, so they are learning that corporations are their masters and that trying to better themselves is likely futile, so they do get a better real world education than their crumbling public school could manage. 

[Bookman 4,623]

I'm all in at this point. MAGA baby. Tax cuts for the rich! Let oil companies pollute all they want! Deport all the brown people! Let's put Jesus back in the schools! Total power for the executive branch!

[TwiceHorn 31,355]

1 minute ago, softlynow said:

It’s still sending poor non-violent offenders to prison for long stretches, and doing nothing* to set them on a better path after release so it’s still working as intended. 

*Well, they do wring as much money out of they families through privatized phone services and commissary sales of luxuries like soap and toothbrushes, so they are learning that corporations are their masters and that trying to better themselves is likely futile, so they do get a better real world education than their crumbling public school could manage. 

That's the status quo ante.  And that's not the legal system, that's more at the feet of the legislative branch.  

And, like it or not, the legal system was working as intended w/r/to Trump.  Those pesky due process things SHOULD work just fine for the actually innocent who are suffering political prosecution.

This board is going to become big fans of official immunity and motions to dismiss indictments as politically motivated.

[Bozo_Casanova 26,370]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's the status quo ante.  And that's not the legal system, that's more at the feet of the legislative branch.  

And, like it or not, the legal system was working as intended w/r/to Trump.  Those pesky due process things SHOULD work just fine for the actually innocent who are suffering political prosecution.

This board is going to become big fans of official immunity and motions to dismiss indictments as politically motivated.

Anatole France was right about the bread. Here's why that's a good thing.

- Twicehorn

[TwiceHorn 31,355]

One thing we have learned (and lawdogs already knew) is that the system is slow.  It's not just Trump that can drag things out.

So, one might expect any cases brought to linger out well past the midterms and very likely until the end of Trump's term.  This will apply to political persecutions as well as other things.

The "inefficiency" or deliberativeness of American government and justice is likely to make things rather difficult for Trump and his sycophants, at least in the early going.

[Pato del Muerto 52,395]

6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

One thing we have learned (and lawdogs already knew) is that the system is slow.  It's not just Trump that can drag things out.

So, one might expect any cases brought to linger out well past the midterms and very likely until the end of Trump's term.  This will apply to political persecutions as well as other things.

The "inefficiency" or deliberativeness of American government and justice is likely to make things rather difficult for Trump and his sycophants, at least in the early going.

These other folks have 70 million people bankrolling them to whatever attorney costs they wish to incur?

[Sawbonz 27,464]

37 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

the system is slow

The system was slow. What have you seen from this bunch that makes you think the system still applies?