Trump’s America

[MissingInAction 25,317]

17 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

"Marshall Law!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

(intentionally misspelled, btw)

[CooterBrown 18,099]

51 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I'm unsure whether tax free tips will come to fruition or not. Honesty Trump doesn't have to fulfill any promise since his election days are over. I assume it wouldn't be a standalone change because 1, those rarely happen, and 2, since Dems would love this change, it will also be tied to tax relief of the rich.

If it is enacted, I would expect it would be tied to extremely low overall income. Do we really need to allow the vegas bottle service waitress or OF models to get their $200K tax free?

Every Surly Law Dog has already drawn up a business plan to charge $2.13/hour with a mandatory $200+/hour service fee (tip) added to the bill.

 

[WhatTheBuck 28,842]

If you’re a server who voted for Trump to get a tax break on your tips, don’t be upset when people go back to tipping you 10%.

[Brisketexan 105,621]

22 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Every Surly Law Dog has already drawn up a business plan to charge $2.13/hour with a mandatory $200+/hour service fee (tip) added to the bill.

 

You laugh..... @Ghost of LL had that EXACT idea the day after the stupid-ass "no taxes on tips" pitch was made.  It's a fucking loophole you can drive a truck through.

[C-Man 27,383]

34 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

You laugh..... @Ghost of LL had that EXACT idea the day after the stupid-ass "no taxes on tips" pitch was made.  It's a fucking loophole you can drive a truck through.

Wealth advisors and financial planners too

[C-Man 27,383]

The ‘Trump dance’ takes the sports world by storm

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/19/sport/trump-dance-sports-spt-intl/index.html

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A dance popularized by President-elect Donald Trump appears to have taken the sporting world by storm, after multiple US athletes across the country brought it out to celebrate plays this weekend.

The dance was first seen years ago during Trump’s rallies, during which he would play up to his supporters by pumping his fists and moving them alongside his body. Last month, it went even more viral when he decided to stop a campaign town hall and instead play some of his favorite music for more than 40 minutes, swaying and dancing to rally staples like “YMCA” by The Village People.

And in the weeks after Trump’s historic reelection to the White House, that dance is being used as celebration for big plays, shots and wins for American athletes – an unusual public celebration of the once-and-future president by sports stars that didn’t happen much during his first term in office.

It first began the weekend after Trump’s reelection when San Francisco 49ers defensive end Nick Bosa – a public Trump supporter – celebrated a sack with the dance in the Niners’ Week 10 win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Bosa, who typically shrugs after sacks, was joined by a few teammates in the dance and when asked about what inspired it, he said: “I think you know the answer to that question.”

“All the guys wanted me to do it. I wasn’t even going to do it, but the boys reminded me. And it was fun,” Bosa told reporters, per the San Francisco Chronicle.

It came just a few weeks after Bosa crashed his teammates’ postgame interview to show his support for Trump in the 2024 presidential election with a hat emblazoned with the Make America Great Again slogan – an act for which was fined $11,255 by the NFL for making political statements on the field.

At UFC 309 on Saturday, with Trump in attendance, Jon Jones commemorated retaining his heavyweight title by busting out the dance before acknowledging Trump at ringside.

Afterward, Jones made his way over to the president-elect, with the pair shaking hands and Jones allowing Trump to hold his heavyweight title belt.

Jones (right) and Trump (left) celebrated after Jones retained his UFC heavyweight title. 

Chris Unger/Zuffa LLC/Getty Images

On Sunday, there were multiple renditions across the NFL of the ‘Trump dance,’ with Detroit Lions defensive end Za’Darius Smith, Las Vegas Raiders tight end Brock Bowers and Tennessee Titans wide receiver Calvin Ridley all performing it.

Bowers was asked by USA Today writer Safid Deen about doing the dance after the game, saying, “I’ve seen everyone do it. I watched the UFC fight last night and Jon Jones did it. I like watching UFC so I saw it, and thought it was cool.”

The Raiders then ended Bowers’ postgame availability following the answer, according to Deen.

British golfer Charley Hull also performed the dance walking down the fairway at the Pelican Golf Club in Florida at The ANNIKA event on Sunday.

And then in St. Louis on Monday, US men’s soccer national team star Christian Pulisic pulled out the dance in celebration after he scored the opening goal of his team’s 4-2 win over Jamaica in the CONCACAF Nations League quarterfinal.

But afterwards, Pulisic stressed that the celebration was “not a political dance.”

He added, per The Athletic: “I saw everyone doing it yesterday in the NFL, I saw Jon Jones do it, and we were just having a bit of fun. I thought it was a pretty fun dance.

“It’s not a political dance. It was just for fun. I saw a bunch of people do it and thought it was funny, so I enjoyed it.”

Double standards?

The use of the dance by athletes is a marked change from previous years when use of political iconography from professional sportsmen and women were often criticized by many.

In the past, athletes such as Colin Kaepernick, LeBron James and others were railed against for their public stances on social or political issues, whereas the burgeoning popularity of the Trump dance suggests a change in the winds.

And, according to conservative columnist Scott Jennings speaking on CNN, “Why shouldn’t they? Trump is back, America is back and once again, it’s cool to be Republican again.”

Conversely, Fox News contributor Jessica Tarlov said it might be a sense of double standards.

“I guess we’ve gotten to the portion of the Trump era where we have moved past ‘shut up and dribble’ and now it is fantastic for athletes to talk about their politics,” Tarlov said on Fox News.

 

[SubliminalHorn 6,841]

Them wanting to look like they’re jerking off a couple guys is certainly a choice 

[Horn Dog 10,048]

Edited November 19 by Horn Dog

[flatdawgs 1,314]

Don't recall Bosa dancing much last Sunday. Of course, he spent most of his time on the sidelines watching his team lose.

[InkaUtexas 26,383]

Showdown between the Feds and LA coming soon. I always thought schools would be a weak point for undocumented population.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gx7rd4nj7o

Los Angeles, the second largest US city, is setting itself up for a standoff with President-elect Donald Trump over immigration.

On Tuesday, its city council is poised to pass a "sanctuary city" ordinance to bar using local resources to help federal immigration authorities.

LA's public school system is also set to declare itself a "sanctuary" for undocumented immigrants and LGBTQ students in a series of emergency resolutions.

Trump, who will be sworn in in two months, has promised mass deportations once he returns to the White House. His chosen "border czar", Tim Homan, has urged sanctuary cities to "get the hell out of the way" of federal immigration crackdowns.

 

The term "sanctuary city" has been popular in the US for more than a decade to describe places that limit their assistance to federal immigration authorities. Since it is not a legal term, cities have taken a variety of approaches to becoming "sanctuaries", such as setting policies in laws or simply changing local policing practices.

[tx 3 putt 77,955]

7 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Showdown between the Feds and LA coming soon. I always thought schools would be a weak point for undocumented population.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gx7rd4nj7o

Los Angeles, the second largest US city, is setting itself up for a standoff with President-elect Donald Trump over immigration.

On Tuesday, its city council is poised to pass a "sanctuary city" ordinance to bar using local resources to help federal immigration authorities.

LA's public school system is also set to declare itself a "sanctuary" for undocumented immigrants and LGBTQ students in a series of emergency resolutions.

Trump, who will be sworn in in two months, has promised mass deportations once he returns to the White House. His chosen "border czar", Tim Homan, has urged sanctuary cities to "get the hell out of the way" of federal immigration crackdowns.

 

The term "sanctuary city" has been popular in the US for more than a decade to describe places that limit their assistance to federal immigration authorities. Since it is not a legal term, cities have taken a variety of approaches to becoming "sanctuaries", such as setting policies in laws or simply changing local policing practices.

 

 

[David Dennison 19,131]

I can't remember where the working class/middle class discussion was, so I'm just gonna leave this here.

[SubliminalHorn 6,841]

I wanted to comment on that about working class, but also lost track of that thread. I think the definition of working class is anyone who has to work to pay bills and put food on the table. You don’t have access to some trust that allows you to maintain a comfortable lifestyle without working. In other words, under my definition, just about everyone here is working class. Elites have fooled the middle class into believing they aren’t working class

Edited November 19 by SubliminalHorn

[Captainant 27,989]

1 hour ago, SubliminalHorn said:

I wanted to comment on that about working class, but also lost track of that thread. I think the definition of working class is anyone who has to work to pay bills and put food on the table. You don’t have access to some trust that allows you to maintain a comfortable lifestyle without working. In other words, under my definition, just about everyone here is working class. Elites have fooled the middle class into believing they aren’t working class

Working class should be called "wage earners" - people who get most of their money from income, not investments or old wealth

[Goredho 17,516]

5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Working class should be called "wage earners" - people who get most of their money from income, not investments or old wealth

Agree with ya.

[Pancho 45,524]

 

[InkaUtexas 26,383]

Get used to this.

[Dnaguy 12,364]

3 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

I wanted to comment on that about working class, but also lost track of that thread. I think the definition of working class is anyone who has to work to pay bills and put food on the table. You don’t have access to some trust that allows you to maintain a comfortable lifestyle without working. In other words, under my definition, just about everyone here is working class. Elites have fooled the middle class into believing they aren’t working class

 

2 hours ago, Captainant said:

Working class should be called "wage earners" - people who get most of their money from income, not investments or old wealth

Maybe this is the best trick the wealthy / 1% ever pulled off. We keep talking about the American dream and helping the middle class. 

After fully paid company health care and fully funded pensions died, so did the middle class.

We keep striving for a goal that can’t be achieved in our current economic and political environment.

Fuck!

Thats the message!

We’re all working class. There is no middle class. Haves and Have a lot less and have nots and have nothing.

Dont place blame but highlight the futility of your labor and effort. Celebrate your try and hard work and show how little the top works at all.

No taxes, carried interest, inheritance, etc.

Go full eat the rich but don’t attack markets themselves. Attack rich people.Attack Elon. Attack Zuckerberg. Attack Bazos. Both sides, attack everyone. Don’t just say billionaires. Use names. Call out CEO’s. 
Highlight the cost of college, but weave it with the cost of living story not an elitest thing. 
Be the idea of Bernie but just don’t be a socialist. Say you’re not for redistribution, but for the idea of rewarding those who actually work hard. White collar, brown collar, and blue collar. It’s about helping those helping themselves.

That’s why we want free public pre k starting at 3 y old. A higher child tax credit. Free healthcare for all kids under 18. Ability to buy into Medicare at 55. Government negotiated drug prices. College loan forgiveness or the ability to get a onetime $25,000 home purchase credit. All of these help you unleash your full earning potential and relieve some financial burden to your family.  

[Pancho 45,524]

I thought radical republicans were for freedom?

 

[Schulz2.0 29,063]

8 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I thought radical republicans were for freedom?

 

Can someone punch Bill Ackman in the face?

[Gap03 3,349]

16 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I thought radical republicans were for freedom?

 

Hey, dumb fuck - perhaps there's a reason people don't want to be in your town square?

 

[Pancho 45,524]

Will Icono or JohnSack come out in support or against this, I truly don’t know 

[TreatyOak 16,812]

 I wonder if they will repackage Jan 6 as a national holiday of some sort, like Hitler did with the shrine he had built to his Brownshirts who died during his Beer Hall putsch? Every year, on Jan 6, Trump can lay a wreath on a memorial to Ashley Babbit.  

[David Dennison 19,131]

36 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I thought radical republicans were for freedom?

 

Is that even real?

I can't find him on bluesky.

[Captainant 27,989]

30 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I thought radical republicans were for freedom?

 

This is a complete misunderstanding of the AT protocol is and how BlueSky works. The idea is that you can take your entire identity, posting history, etc etc, and bring it with you to a new platform - while still communicating and interacting with everyone that you used to. A better way to think about it is that rather than using a locked in platform like AOL instant messenger (Twitter or Threads), this is an open protocol like email.

The whole idea is that platforms don't have to host people, and that they aren't locked out of the conversation if they're off a platform. But in setting things up like this, Bluesky is incentivized to build a product that will keep users coming back to their platform, rather than a competitor or self-hosting. If you don't like BlueSky's moderation or algorithm, then you can simply roll your own and use that.

 

Ed Zitron's "Better Offline" had a great episode that got a bit more into that ethos and idea.

 

[InkaUtexas 26,383]

1 minute ago, TreatyOak said:

 I wonder if they will repackage Jan 6 as a national holiday of some sort, like Hitler did with the shrine he had built to his Brownshirts who died during his Beer Hall putsch? Every year, on Jan 6, Trump can lay a wreath on a memorial to Ashley Babbit.  

Why not? Down by the Jefferson Memorial.

[Firemans4Horn 18,313]

44 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I thought radical republicans were for freedom?

 

 

[TwiceHorn 31,698]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

I thought radical republicans were for freedom?

 

Also about as plain an antitrust violation as you could come up with.

Dickbrain.

[Chad Fuck 17,872]

30 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

 I wonder if they will repackage Jan 6 as a national holiday of some sort, like Hitler did with the shrine he had built to his Brownshirts who died during his Beer Hall putsch? Every year, on Jan 6, Trump can lay a wreath on a memorial to Ashley Babbit.  

Almost guaranteed. 

[Bookman 4,728]

41 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Will Icono or JohnSack come out in support or against this, I truly don’t know 

Sack will come out thumping his Bible and telling you how rich his family is. 

[Incredulity 11,716]

31 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Is that even real?

I can't find him on bluesky.

take a guess.

[C-Man 27,383]

Is that even real?
I can't find him on bluesky.

He’s on there.

[tx 3 putt 77,955]

when rand paul is a light of hope ….

 

 

[Brisketexan 105,621]

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

when rand paul is a light of hope ….

 

 

How many of y'all would like to wager on Rand coming around, seeing the light, and kneeling for the sacrament of orange knob gobbling at the Church of MAGA on that point?  Easy money, man.  Easy money.

[MotownHorn 1,834]

A lot of people who fucked around and voted Trump are gonna be shocked during the find out phase here

It’s truly amazing how many people voted against their own interests. My next door neighbors are Trumpers (and otherwise decent people). Their 10 year old has a  preexisting condition (MD) and an Individual Education Plans

Meanwhile I have two healthy kids who don’t need an IEP 

How am I voting to give your kid health insurance and extra help in school while you’re voting to take that away from your own kid?!? Make it make sense.

(They don’t actually know what they’re voting for is the only way it makes sense to me)

 

[Chad Fuck 17,872]

3 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

A lot of people who fucked around and voted Trump are gonna be shocked during the find out phase here

It’s truly amazing how many people voted against their own interests. My next door neighbors are Trumpers (and otherwise decent people). Their 10 year old has a  preexisting condition (MD) and an Individual Education Plans

Meanwhile I have two healthy kids who don’t need an IEP 

How am I voting to give your kid health insurance and extra help in school while you’re voting to take that away from your own kid?!? Make it make sense.

(They don’t actually know what they’re voting for is the only way it makes sense to me)

 

I think you got it.

[Brisketexan 105,621]

3 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

(They don’t actually know what they’re voting for is the only way it makes sense to me)

Bingo.

See the post-election numbers on Trump's support among people who do not get information from actual news sources (instead, they watch TikTok videos and shit).  The vote was largely for vibes and feels.  I'm mad and frustrated, and Trump voices my anger and frustration, and promises to DO SOMETHING about it.  What he'll do doesn't much matter.   He just sounds like a dude of action.  There you have it.  Analysis completed.

[mchookem 16,554]

you forgot "and he'll make people i don't like suffer!"

[tx 3 putt 77,955]

[InkaUtexas 26,383]

29 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Some personally signed? So 1?

[Okie State 3,866]

You have to buy one to find out.

[Satchel 6,949]

Undocumented workers are  3.6% of the US population. The mass deportation that a majority of Americans voted for will disproportionately impact construction, agriculture and hospitality industries. Mass deportation will remove 30% of workers in major construction trades and 28% of graters and sorters who keep agricultural businesses afloat. A quarter of domestic household workers will be sent packing. Among the millions of undocumented workers who will be deported are one million entrepreneurs who pump an estimated 27 billion back into the US economy. Mass deportation will deprive local, state and federal governments of 46 billion in federal tax dollars that would no longer be paid, and another 29 billion in state and local taxes. When Trump deports with “shock and awe” as promised, the result will be a 4.2% decline in US GDP, which is only slightly better than the 4.6% decline we experienced in the Great Recession.
 

Again, I want to see the look on the faces of those holding up Deport Now signs when Iceberg lettuce at Kroger is $12 a head.

Edited November 20 by Satchel

[InkaUtexas 26,383]

1 minute ago, Satchel said:

Again, I want to see the look on the faces of those holding up Deport Now signs when Iceberg lettuce at Kroger is $12 a head.

Luckily for them they have about 10 pounds of lettuce seed in their prepper vault. Now they just have to plant it right? Lettuce tomorrow.

[Chad Fuck 17,872]

4 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Undocumented workers are  3.6% of the US population. The mass deportation that a majority of Americans voted for will disproportionately impact construction, agriculture and hospitality industries. Mass deportation will remove 30% of workers in major construction trades and 28% of graters and sorters who keep agricultural businesses afloat. A quarter of domestic household workers will be sent packing. Among the millions of undocumented workers who will be deported are one million entrepreneurs who pump an estimated 27 billion back into the US economy. Mass deportation will deprive local, state and federal governments of 46 billion in federal tax dollars that would no longer be paid, and 29 billion, and another 29 billion in state and local taxes. When Trump deports with “shock and awe” as promised, the result will be a 4.2% decline in US GDP, which is only slightly better than the 4.6% decline we experienced in the Great Recession.
 

Again, I want to see the look on the faces of those holding up Deport Now signs when Iceberg lettuce at Kroger is $12 a head.

Lol.  You think maga eats vegetables?  

 

[Satchel 6,949]

9 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Lol.  You think maga eats vegetables?  

 

Chuckle. They may sniff around an Iceberg lettuce only because it’s the least nutritious. They’re suspicious of the other woke lettuces.

[Bookman 4,728]

36 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Chuckle. They may sniff around an Iceberg lettuce only because it’s the least nutritious. They’re suspicious of the other woke lettuces.

No way. An iceberg is what sank the Titanic—at least that’s what they want you to believe.

[Brisketexan 105,621]

4 minutes ago, Bookman said:

No way. An iceberg is what sank the Titanic—at least that’s what they want you to believe.

An iceberg?

No doubt.  (((They))) were behind the whole thing.

[tx 3 putt 77,955]

1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

Lol.  You think maga eats vegetables?  

 

 

[G650 14,302]

So is this where we talk about restaurants now that imma locked the leopards thread

[Evil Bill Obrien 3,332]

16 minutes ago, G650 said:

So is this where we talk about restaurants now that imma locked the leopards thread

think so

Fuck Jack in the Box and their nasty ass food