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2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

So just no one cares about corruption in government or the president personally profiting off deals with foreign governments. Barely a word from the press about Trump meeting with Saudis and the PGA - just ho hum, fuck our constitution and the founding fathers. Let’s get McDonalds (so funny)

Remember when he owned a hotel in Washington D.C. and all the visiting foreign dignitaries knew they had to stay there if they wanted to incur favor with the U.S. President? That was true for Republican politicians and members of the private business community as well. Straight up graft. 

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On 11/20/2024 at 1:04 PM, mchookem said:

you forgot "and he'll make people i don't like suffer!"

That is the basis of the Leopard party. These people don’t realize that others in the Leopard party don’t like them. They will tear themselves apart, a lot of good people that saw it coming will also suffer, but at least we can get some slight sense of satisfaction watching so many Leopards have their faces eaten along side us. 

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

*tienen

Past tense. They were hungry. I've been studying Spanish on my own. Gratifying. I also ran it through google translate to be sure.

 

ETA It occurs to me that Spanish may be useful in our emerging banana republic. Caudillo Trump.

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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Past tense. They were hungry. I've been studying Spanish on my own. Gratifying. I also ran it through google translate to be sure.

 

ETA It occurs to me that Spanish may be useful in our emerging banana republic. Caudillo Trump.

Tenian would work. They had, implying now they ate them and are satisfied or it is not longer an issue. Like they were deported thus they had. Kind of like paying Milton in Office Space. the problem just worked itself out.

@RDCanecutter  Concur?

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

For Real Yes GIF by ABC Network

Yeah they have. Republicans did not come up with it. And I do not know 1 latino (and I know a few) who like, appreciate, or use it for themselves.

The Dems backed away from it, but it was used and Latino/a's noticed.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/06/hispanic-voters-latinx-term-523776

https://www.newsweek.com/latinx-latino-voters-donald-trump-1977268

 

 

 

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Can't remember what thread it was, but this is pertinent to changing expectations

 

https://bsky.app/profile/axios.com/post/3lbkml7zkos23

 

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Boomers generally think they can be a success on salaries just under $100,000 a year, while those born between 1965 and 1996 are closer to $200,000.

But the youngest workers, the Gen Z cohort, think they have to earn almost $600,000 a year to really make it. https://www.axios.com/2024/11/22/boomers-gen-z-millennials-financial-success

 

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12 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Yeah they have. Republicans did not come up with it. And I do not know 1 latino (and I know a few) who like, appreciate, or use it for themselves.

The Dems backed away from it, but it was used and Latino/a's noticed.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/06/hispanic-voters-latinx-term-523776

https://www.newsweek.com/latinx-latino-voters-donald-trump-1977268

 

 

 

Oh damn an almost 4.5 year old tweet

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1 minute ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Oh damn an almost 4.5 year old tweet

Yeah, they backed away from the use. There are a few articles/studies showing Latino/as did not not like it so they made the shift. The tweet just shows that it was used. Even though removed from use, the idea that the term related direct to the Dems remained.

The line I was replying to is a poster could not remember it being used. Well the Latin community did.

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17 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Yeah they have. Republicans did not come up with it. And I do not know 1 latino (and I know a few) who like, appreciate, or use it for themselves.

The Dems backed away from it, but it was used and Latino/a's noticed.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/06/hispanic-voters-latinx-term-523776

https://www.newsweek.com/latinx-latino-voters-donald-trump-1977268

 

 

 

 

I assumed @WhatTheBuck meant during this past election cycle and not “never in the history of life.”

Yes, Dems have used that language in the past but they stopped. Radical republicans kept bringing it up that it was being used and people believed them.

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Just now, Pancho said:

 

I assumed @WhatTheBuck meant during this past election cycle and not “never in the history of life.”

Yes, Dems have used that language in the past but they stopped. Radical republicans kept bringing it up that it was being used and people believed them.

Yeah, they used that message and it worked. It was a tipping point for some I think.

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4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Gen Z is fucking retarded. Got it. 

Money is such a vital part of a person's level of success in life, but I honestly don't think many people understand it in the way that should matter most. The importance of money to me, and my goal, is literally just to have enough so I don't have to work anymore unless it's work I want to do. That's it. Money is freedom. Freedom from worrying about what you can or can't buy at a grocery store. Freedom to know I can pay rent. Freedom to retire some day. That's all fucking money is and should be. 


If you grow up terminally online / within a social media landscape that deifies influencers, consumption, expensive things, plastic surgery perfection, and expensive living, then i don’t find this surprising at all.

Add that to housing prices and I think it makes sense.

What I can’t glean from this poll though is if it’s fatalistic or if it’s truly them not understanding needs vs wants vs costs (value of things AND the cost of time or education etc to make that kind of money)

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2 hours ago, Dnaguy said:


If you grow up terminally online / within a social media landscape that deifies influencers, consumption, expensive things, plastic surgery perfection, and expensive living, then i don’t find this surprising at all.

Add that to housing prices and I think it makes sense.

What I can’t glean from this poll though is if it’s fatalistic or if it’s truly them not understanding needs vs wants vs costs (value of things AND the cost of time or education etc to make that kind of money)

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3 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Tenian would work. They had, implying now they ate them and are satisfied or it is not longer an issue. Like they were deported thus they had. Kind of like paying Milton in Office Space. the problem just worked itself out.

@RDCanecutter  Concur?

What he said. Maybe stick an accent in tenían so we don't look too chunti.

But my main question is why are Springfield Haitians speaking Spanish?

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12 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

What he said. Maybe stick an accent in tenían so we don't look too chunti.

But my main question is why are Springfield Haitians speaking Spanish?

You know, I haven't heard much about the Springfield Haitians lately.  Did they all go back to Haiti? Or stop eating the dogs?  

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Stay classy, Elon.

https://www.wsj.com/tech/musk-unleashes-online-army-on-federal-workers-a-tough-way-to-find-out-shes-losing-her-job-f57a2e94?st=v5Qcvf&reflink=article_copyURL_share

 

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As co-director of President-elect Donald Trump’s nascent Department of Government Efficiency, Elon Musk has wasted no time posting to his 205 million followers on X about specific government departments he views as bloated.

But this week, Musk has escalated from targeting government agencies to singling out individuals—sparking his online army of followers to launch blistering critiques of ordinary federal employees.

 

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One recent post by the billionaire zeroed in on Ashley Thomas, a little-known director of climate diversification at the U.S. International Development Finance Corp., after another user on Musk’s social-media platform X questioned her role.

Musk’s repost—“So many fake jobs”—garnered 32 million views, triggering an avalanche of memes and ridicule from his followers against the employee, such as, “Sorry Ashley Thomas Gravy Train is Over.”

Earlier this month, in a move heralded by many of his supporters, Trump tapped Musk and biotech-company founder Vivek Ramaswamy to spearhead DOGE—sharing its name with a Musk-promoted cryptocurrency—to slash spending, regulations, and restructure federal agencies.

 

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In a Wall Street Journal opinion piece Wednesday, the two men envisioned “mass head-count reductions” across the federal bureaucracy. On Wednesday, Musk shared on X a past TV interview with Milton Friedman in which the economist recommended the elimination of a number of federal agencies, including the departments of education, commerce, agriculture and housing and urban development. “Milton Friedman was the best,” Musk said in apparent agreement.

Ramaswamy in interviews has offered an unusually blunt—and likely impossible to implement—strategy for how to slash the federal workforce: firing those whose Social Security numbers start or end with odd numbers. “Boom. That’s a 75 percent reduction done,” he said on a podcast interview this fall.

Both leaders have since called out numerous instances of alleged government waste on X, soliciting public recommendations for budget cuts.

 

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This week, Musk resumed his controversial practice of calling out individuals—a tactic going back to X’s previous incarnation as Twitter.

In 2021, Musk took aim Mary “Missy” Cummings, a Duke University engineering professor who was appointed to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration as a top adviser, and had been critical of Tesla’s advanced driver-assistance system. 

After taking over Twitter in 2022, Musk targeted Yoel Roth, the platform’s former head of trust and safety, who had recently left. Musk tweeted, incorrectly, that it looked like Roth had argued “in favor of children being able to access adult Internet services.” Some of the platform’s users interpreted it as Musk calling Roth a pedophile, and they posted calls for Roth’s death. Roth moved out of his house temporarily because of threats, the Journal reported at the time. 

Musk’s targets this week included Alexis Pelosi, California Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s relative and a senior climate adviser at the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

But that post also included the names of two obscure federal officials with climate-related jobs—including one who had actually left her job at the Energy Department in August. 

“These tactics are aimed at sowing terror and fear at federal employees,” said Everett Kelley, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 800,000 of the 2.3 million civilian federal employees. “It’s intended to make them fearful that they will become afraid to speak up.”

Kelley said Musk is going after the wrong target if he focuses only on federal employees. Kelley said far more is spent by federal contractors such as himself—$750 billion annually compared with about $200 billion for the civilian workforce, one third of which are veterans as he is.

“We are a comparative steal, and we want to help clean it up too,” said Kelley, a former Army sergeant. “The people I represent have been called names like deep state, but they are working people just like you and I.”

The 37-year-old Thomas, the target of Musk’s viral repost, works for a federal agency that partners with private companies to finance ways to improve living standards in developing countries.

With engineering, business and water science degrees from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and University of Oxford, Thomas spent years doing field work in Africa and writing research papers such as one on a technology that can help extract water from air in arid countries, according to her past tweets.

She eventually went to work as the agency’s director of climate diversification in 2023, when federal personnel records show she earned $172,075 a year. 

An agency official said the climate diversification portfolio is highly technical and is focused on identifying innovations that serve U.S. strategic interests, including bolstering agriculture and infrastructure against extreme weather events.

Thomas previously had served stints in various small companies and nonprofits, some of which do work in the developing world, according to her online resume. 

How does a routine federal employee come to the attention of Musk, the world’s richest man?

The controversy erupted when “datahazard,” an X user whose anti-Biden posts have drawn Musk’s attention, questioned Thomas’s job on Tuesday to nearly 170,000 followers. 

Musk’s repost sparked a barrage of taunts, with his followers making jeers such as, “A tough way for Ashley Thomas to find out she’s losing her job.”

Michael Skolnik, a longtime civil rights activist, was among those who fired back at the post. “You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and dangerously targeting a person who works an honest job to provide for their family.”

Neither Musk nor his representatives responded to requests for comment. 

A representative of the “datahazard” X account, who didn’t give a name, said it was legitimate to give names of employees like Thomas because she is on a list of senior officials who are public figures. “Taxpayers have a fundamental right to know who runs our government,” this person said via a direct message on X.

 

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1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

So we are going to get rid of the Dept of Agriculture? Do farmers know this? Is that not where the subsidies come from?

One thing is this could just be a "name game." The DOE was created as kind of a name game, its functions didn't change much, it just was divided out of HEW to create DOE and HHS.

USDA was originally part of the Patent Office, which grants patents on plant varieties and that was about the extent of agriculture policy in the US at the time.

This is not to downplay Trump's insidious plans and those of his backers and string-pullers.  But, they could actually accomplish the elimination of DOE without actually changing a damn thing.

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

One thing is this could just be a "name game." The DOE was created as kind of a name game, its functions didn't change much, it just was divided out of HEW to create DOE and HHS.

USDA was originally part of the Patent Office, which grants patents on plant varieties and that was about the extent of agriculture policy in the US at the time.

This is not to downplay Trump's insidious plans and those of his backers and string-pullers.  But, they could actually accomplish the elimination of DOE without actually changing a damn thing.

You had me confused.  DOE = Energy, Education usually abbreviated ED

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10 hours ago, Pancho said:

For Real Yes GIF by ABC Network

https://thehill.com/homenews/3513280-ocasio-cortez-in-mini-rant-criticizes-democrats-for-railing-against-latinx-term/amp/

8 hours ago, G650 said:

Can't remember what thread it was, but this is pertinent to changing expectations

 

https://bsky.app/profile/axios.com/post/3lbkml7zkos23

 

 

It’s been said, and I’ll gladly restate, Gen Z is fucking retarded. These are 24 year olds who think they should be able to buy a house, with a yard, downtown,  in a major city, after a couple paychecks. Why anyone listens or respects them, on Reddit or in real life, is a mystery.

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This man is the leader of the free world and pretty much has every avenue available to him to make all kinds of money.  Yet he chooses to huckster cheap knockoff guitars.  Does that point more to his infinite greed or his lack of creativity to actually pull something off that would line his pockets.  I think when you look back on all his other attempts and eventual fuckups, you begin to see the latter assumption as the proper answer.    

That is partly why I have hope all this goes down in flames just like all his other attempts, his ego and small mind will get in the way.

 

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18 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Tenian would work. They had, implying now they ate them and are satisfied or it is not longer an issue. Like they were deported thus they had. Kind of like paying Milton in Office Space. the problem just worked itself out.

@RDCanecutter  Concur?

Take it to the food and travel forum /imma

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10 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/3513280-ocasio-cortez-in-mini-rant-criticizes-democrats-for-railing-against-latinx-term/amp/

It’s been said, and I’ll gladly restate, Gen Z is fucking retarded. These are 24 year olds who think they should be able to buy a house, with a yard, downtown,  in a major city, after a couple paychecks. Why anyone listens or respects them, on Reddit or in real life, is a mystery.

To be fair my first house was 70k / 5k down, 1600 sq ft in 78704. Bought it one year after undergrad, one year after being married. That house is now easily worth $600k maybe more and 4 flips later we live in an house that seems completely unobtainable because we caught one of the greatest rises in home equity ever. Under no circumstances was living in Elgin for a starter home an option or a forced decision. So while they are dumb it’s true even entry level housing that is desirable is somewhat out of reach. 

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13 minutes ago, troph said:

To be fair my first house was 70k / 5k down, 1600 sq ft in 78704. Bought it one year after undergrad, one year after being married. That house is now easily worth $600k maybe more and 4 flips later we live in an house that seems completely unobtainable because we caught one of the greatest rises in home equity ever. Under no circumstances was living in Elgin for a starter home an option or a forced decision. So while they are dumb it’s true even entry level housing that is desirable is somewhat out of reach. 

Absurd asset bubble is absurd.  
 

Just a WAG but this house probably went from 350k to 600k between 21’ and 22’.  It’s ridiculous, and s total fuck job to people 18-35.  The west coast cities are all playing rent control/landlord restrictions fuck fuck games which only make it worse.

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13 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

One thing is this could just be a "name game." The DOE was created as kind of a name game, its functions didn't change much, it just was divided out of HEW to create DOE and HHS.

USDA was originally part of the Patent Office, which grants patents on plant varieties and that was about the extent of agriculture policy in the US at the time.

This is not to downplay Trump's insidious plans and those of his backers and string-pullers.  But, they could actually accomplish the elimination of DOE without actually changing a damn thing.

All of this is pretty much the foundation of the argument people make against government agencies.  They fucking multiply like god damn gremlins splashed with water and  expand the scope of their regulation all without specific congressional mandates.

 

USDA- farming/agriculture….meat processing(autonomous from FDA)….Forest service….all coming out of the patent office.  Makes perfect sense.

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Trump probably has a ton of crap that needs to be sold because he was unsure that he would get elected. Instead of quietly selling it, why waste an opportunity to sell something that rubes think can be handed down in the family. This century’s version of a family owning a pen reportedly used by George Washington.

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2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

All of this is pretty much the foundation of the argument people make against government agencies.  They fucking multiply like god damn gremlins splashed with water and  expand the scope of their regulation all without specific congressional mandates.

 

USDA- farming/agriculture….meat processing(autonomous from FDA)….Forest service….all coming out of the patent office.  Makes perfect sense.

Except for that mandate from Congress.  It's always there.  These things don't magically appear.  Congress punts stuff it can't handle.  And that's before it became the non-functional entity that it is currently and has been for the last quarter century or so.

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