Trump’s America

[InkaUtexas 26712]

100% tariff on BRIC Nations. 100%.

[wood 11702]

oops. wrong thread.

Edited December 1 by wood

[Goofyboy 3396]

100% tariff on BRIC Nations. 100%.

Everything gets to double in price. Wonderful.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20799]

[Dnaguy 12501]

Wide downloads some game for kids that Elon apparently funded.

Me: Why?

Her: I mean it’s supposed to be good for them?

Me: If it’s funded by Elon, I can’t trust it. The dudes an idiot.

Her: he’s not an idiot.

Me: Sorry. He’s a craven billionaire non American who bought himself a president.

Her: I think he has good ideas and his Doge can be a real help for the country.

Me: How? He’s not going to touch defense spending. And they won’t touch entitlements. It’ll be political theater.

Her: You don’t know that. I think they will touch those things.

Me: I’ll bet you a steak dinner that our deficit will be the same in 4 years. Shake my hand.

Her: I’m not making that bet.

Me: exactly. The man is going to use his $ and influence to enrich himself as the expense of you and me. It’s super simple.

Her: I don’t want to talk about this anymore.

[tchookem 3943]

Wide downloads some game for kids that Elon apparently funded.
Me: Why?
Her: I mean it’s supposed to be good for them?
Me: If it’s funded by Elon, I can’t trust it. The dudes an idiot.
Her: he’s not an idiot.
Me: Sorry. He’s a craven billionaire non American who bought himself a president.
Her: I think he has good ideas and his Doge can be a real help for the country.
Me: How? He’s not going to touch defense spending. And they won’t touch entitlements. It’ll be political theater.
Her: You don’t know that. I think they will touch those things.
Me: I’ll bet you a steak dinner that our deficit will be the same in 4 years. Shake my hand.
Her: I’m not making that bet.
Me: exactly. The man is going to use his $ and influence to enrich himself as the expense of you and me. It’s super simple.
Her: I don’t want to talk about this anymore.

What games? So I can avoid them.

[Okie State 3883]

You've got some balls referring to her as 'Wide'.

[Gatorubet 30572]

Maybe she’s got huge tracks of land?

[Liteitup 144]

Thought it was gonna be about Christmas lights.

Edited December 2 by Liteitup

[Dnaguy 12501]

4 hours ago, tchookem said:

6 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

Wide downloads some game for kids that Elon apparently funded.
Me: Why?
Her: I mean it’s supposed to be good for them?
Me: If it’s funded by Elon, I can’t trust it. The dudes an idiot.
Her: he’s not an idiot.
Me: Sorry. He’s a craven billionaire non American who bought himself a president.
Her: I think he has good ideas and his Doge can be a real help for the country.
Me: How? He’s not going to touch defense spending. And they won’t touch entitlements. It’ll be political theater.
Her: You don’t know that. I think they will touch those things.
Me: I’ll bet you a steak dinner that our deficit will be the same in 4 years. Shake my hand.
Her: I’m not making that bet.
Me: exactly. The man is going to use his $ and influence to enrich himself as the expense of you and me. It’s super simple.
Her: I don’t want to talk about this anymore.

What games? So I can avoid them.

Synthesis or something like that

[GenXer 3270]

3 hours ago, Liteitup said:

Thought it was gonna be about Christmas lights.

Username checks out 

[Jhawkmvp 1512]

Tip for people so you can show posts without actually linking to another site. Just hit windows key + shift + s. You will get an option to crop out what you want a picture of, along with a couple other options like whole screen or page. It will save the cropped area to the clipboard then just paste it in your post and that will load at the bottom. Choose to insert the picture by mousing over it to get the insert option. See below for an example

[royiv 9581]

On 12/1/2024 at 12:16 PM, Dnaguy said:

Wide downloads some game for kids that Elon apparently funded.

Me: Why?

Her: I mean it’s supposed to be good for them?

Me: If it’s funded by Elon, I can’t trust it. The dudes an idiot.

Her: he’s not an idiot.

Me: Sorry. He’s a craven billionaire non American who bought himself a president.

Her: I think he has good ideas and his Doge can be a real help for the country.

Me: How? He’s not going to touch defense spending. And they won’t touch entitlements. It’ll be political theater.

Her: You don’t know that. I think they will touch those things.

Me: I’ll bet you a steak dinner that our deficit will be the same in 4 years. Shake my hand.

Her: I’m not making that bet.

Me: exactly. The man is going to use his $ and influence to enrich himself as the expense of you and me. It’s super simple.

Her: I don’t want to talk about this anymore.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you’re married to an idiot.

[wood 11702]

TIL that during his first term Trump pardoned Charles Kushner for witness tampering, tax evasion and illegal campaign contributions.

(yeah I'm a dumbass who tuned out of the news for a while because the news generally pisses off or saddens me so much)

[Longhorn_Fan68 34046]

4 minutes ago, wood said:

TIL that during his first term Trump pardoned Charles Kushner for witness tampering, tax evasion and illegal campaign contributions.

(yeah I'm a dumbass who tuned out of the news for a while because the news generally pisses off or saddens me so much)

and now he is envoy to France. probably should have tuned in before now. I've been avoiding being felonious my whole life, but it appears that's how you get to the top these days. 

[Chad Fuck 18024]

1 hour ago, royiv said:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you’re married to an idiot.

Ahem.  Round these parts, we say "She sure sounds pretty."

Edited December 2 by Chad Fuck
*Then we ask for pics.

[wood 11702]

3 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

and now he is envoy to France. probably should have tuned in before now. I've been avoiding being felonious my whole life, but it appears that's how you get to the top these days. 

Yeah I know. That's what led me to the pardon info. Unreal, this fuckin' guy.

I gotta say I'm not crazy about the unconditional pardon power of the POTUS. There has to be a better, more responsible way than allowing the Pres to just wave a magic wand and absolve anyone they want of anything they did.

Edited December 2 by wood

[TwiceHorn 31868]

39 minutes ago, wood said:

Yeah I know. That's what led me to the pardon info. Unreal, this fuckin' guy.

I gotta say I'm not crazy about the unconditional pardon power of the POTUS. There has to be a better, more responsible way than allowing the Pres to just wave a magic wand and absolve anyone they want of anything they did.

And it is rarely used to grant clemency to victims of actual injustice.  Obama actually gave it a shot.

[Francisco 2.0 32475]

https://theintercept.com/2024/12/02/location-personal-data-trump-deport-immigrants/

 

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PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP vows to start his second term with the immediate mass deportation of millions of undocumented immigrants. Like everything else, deportations of the 21st century are an increasingly data-centric undertaking, tapping vast pools of personal information sold by a litany of companies. The Intercept asked more than three dozen companies in the data business if they’ll help; only four were willing to comment.

While details of the plan have varied, Trump’s intention is clear. He plans to use federal immigration police and perhaps the military to force millions of immigrants out of the United States in an operation the president-elect says has “no price tag.” While the country braces for the possibility of immigrants forcibly rounded up and deported, much of the undertaking will likely remain invisible — the domain of software analysis and database searches of unregulated personal data.

 

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Regardless of immigration status, it is nearly impossible to exist today without creating a trail of records. DMV visits, electricity bills, cellphone subscriptions, bankruptcy proceedings, credit history, and other staples of modern life all wind up ingested andrepackaged for sale by data companies. Information like this has helped inform deportation proceedings under both Republican and Democratic leadership.

In 2021, The Intercept reported that Immigration and Customs Enforcement paid LexisNexis nearly $17 million to access its database of personal information, which the company says includes 10,000 different data points spanning hundreds of millions of people in the United States. Within just seven months, according to documents reviewed by The Intercept, ICE had searched this database over 1.2 million times.

 

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Similar uses of unregulated private data have become commonplace for immigration and border authorities. In 2020, Protocol and the Wall Street Journal reported on the extensive use of location and other personal data gleaned from smartphone apps by companies like Gravy Analytics and Venntel and resold to ICE and Customs and Border Protection. ICE “has used the data to help identify immigrants who were later arrested,” according to sources who spoke to the Journal.

Analytic software sold by Palantir has been instrumental to ICE’s deportation efforts; reporting by The Intercept showed the company’s tools were used in a 2017 operation targeting unaccompanied minors and their families.

 

Spoiler

Last year, Motherboard reported CBP had purchased access to Babel Street software that “lets a user input a piece of information about a target—their name, email address, or telephone number—and receive a bevy of data in return,” including “social media posts, linked IP address, employment history, and unique advertising identifiers associated with their mobile phone.”

To see whether corporate America will support Trump’s promised anti-immigrant operation, The Intercept reached out to data and technology companies that hold immense quantities of personal information or sellanalytic software useful to an agency like ICE. The list includes obscure data brokers that glean intimate personal details from advertising streams, mainstream cellular phone providers, household-name social networks, predictive policing firms, and more.

The list is by no means exhaustive. Private firms that quietly collect and sell personal data that could be of use to immigration authorities are innumerable and ever-growing. Some of these companies, like Meta, may not directly sell personal records to third-party customers in the manner of LexisNexis but could be asked to aid in immigration enforcement if presented with a legal request. At times, social media companies have opted to fight such requests they consider overly broad or invasive.

In 2016, as Trump prepared to begin his first term, The Intercept asked nine major tech firms whether they would help build a nationwide “Muslim registry,” as he had pledged during his campaign. Initially, only one — Twitter — even responded (the answer was no). Eventually, Facebook (as Meta was then known), Apple, Microsoft, and Google stated on the record that they too would not help build a computerized list of Muslims. The country now faces the prospect of another nationally polarizing MAGA campaign pledge, again with horrific civil liberties implications, and again requiring the aid or at least cooperation of one or many technology firms.

As in 2016, The Intercept posed the same question to each company, and requested a yes or no response: Would your company provide the Trump administration with data or other technical services to help facilitate mass deportation operations, either voluntarily, in response to a legal request, or via a paid contract?

This is how they responded.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DixonHur 11881]

[wood 11702]

1, x

[Dnaguy 12501]

6 hours ago, royiv said:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you’re married to an idiot.

Anyone willing to marry my ass has got significant cognitive impairment. On this front we both agree.

[Pancho 45939]

These people are idiots

 

[TexArcher 38782]

Re: willing to pay more... 

No, they're not.  Trumpkins are the people who keep the shelves at Walmart full of crap made in Chinese sweatshops.  And they live in houses, trailers, and apartments built by Mexicans.  And they're still broke.  They might *prefer* to pay a little more for things made by white people (which is what the line above really means) but the fact is that they can't.  

They need non-white people to survive.  And they're gonna realize that the hard way pretty soon.

Everyone who voted for Trump will very quickly be in the same line as everyone who's ever done business with Trump, trying to get what they thought they'd agreed to, unsuccessfully.

Edited December 3 by TexArcher

[Chad Fuck 18024]

31 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

No, they're not.  Trumpkins are the people who keep the shelves at Walmart full of crap made in Chinese sweatshops.  And they live in houses, trailers, and apartments built by Mexicans.  And they're still broke.  They might *prefer* to pay a little more for things made by white people (which is what the line above really means) but the fact is that they can't.  

They need non-white people to survive.  And they're gonna realize that the hard way pretty soon.

Everyone who voted for Trump will very quickly be in the same line as everyone who's ever done business with Trump, trying to get what they thought they'd agreed to, unsuccessfully.

[Pancho 45939]

I don’t know what made the White Gays start to side with the radical republicans but you’re going to learn they never liked you to begin with:

[TexArcher 38782]

Ah, yes.  Get rid of income tax.  The political wetdream of the monumentally stupid for about 200 years.

[Francisco 2.0 32475]

2 hours ago, TexArcher said:

No, they're not.  Trumpkins are the people who keep the shelves at Walmart full of crap made in Chinese sweatshops.  And they live in houses, trailers, and apartments built by Mexicans.  And they're still broke.  They might *prefer* to pay a little more for things made by white people (which is what the line above really means) but the fact is that they can't.  

They need non-white people to survive.  And they're gonna realize that the hard way pretty soon.

Everyone who voted for Trump will very quickly be in the same line as everyone who's ever done business with Trump, trying to get what they thought they'd agreed to, unsuccessfully.

 

Thing is, everyone who voted for Trump would still vote for him even if eggs are $1 each.  The man simply cannot lose support.  There's absolutely nothing on this planet that will cause this to happen.  Nothing at all.

He could have the past Congressional Medal of Honor recipients lined up and executed on national tv as he is standing there giving the order to shoot, and he would gain support.  Not only that, you would have roughly half the House and Senate eagerly signing onto a resolution fully supporting the executions.

Nothing matters anymore.  At least with Donald J. Trump.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[wood 11702]

Trump appears to threaten Hamas with 'all hell to pay' over hostages  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62757dd55no

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Without mentioning Hamas by name, Trump posted online the same day: "Those responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been hit in the long and storied history of the United States of America."

I hope the Pro-Palestine folks who voted for Trump are happy.  Many of us said throughout the campaign that Trump's idea of ending the war is not the same as theirs. Hard to understand how they couldn't see it.

More for the 'leopards eating faces' file. Know what you're voting for.

[BurdineBandit 821]

2 hours ago, TexArcher said:

No, they're not.  Trumpkins are the people who keep the shelves at Walmart full of crap made in Chinese sweatshops.  And they live in houses, trailers, and apartments built by Mexicans.  And they're still broke.  They might *prefer* to pay a little more for things made by white people (which is what the line above really means) but the fact is that they can't.  

They're the methheads in the videos from Springfield, yapping away to cameras in front of their obviously meth-filled mobile home, blaming their lot in life on the immigrants that the plant manager from the town says are harder workers and more dependable than the methheads he used to have to hire. Nope, it's not the meth that's the problem, it's the immigrants that they swear somebody down the street saw eating cats. Or dogs. Or geese, or who knows what but they're immigrants and kick them out so we can become productive, sober members of society again. #Trump2028

[DixonHur 11881]

4 hours ago, Pancho said:

These people are idiots

 

"But I won't pay more taxes to ensure Americans have affordable healthcare." smh

[Underdog 29001]

Why the fuck is this asshole being invited for the ND Cathedral reopening for? No doubt when they mentioned ND he immediately thought of Knute Rockne. 

[Ojo Rojo 2004]

I would like to say something about the effect of tariffs, and for that matter increasing the minimum wage.  For some unknown reason, every time these two things in particular are discussed, the only outcome mentioned is higher prices for consumers.  What is not mentioned is that there is actually another option - corporate profits.  I realize not all imported goods are from huge multinational corporations with billion dollar market caps who could afford to pay their CEOs a few mil a year less and absorb big hits to the bottom line, but the point stands that corporations actually have a choice whether to raise prices.

[royiv 9581]

15 minutes ago, Underdog said:

Why the fuck is this asshole being invited for the ND Cathedral reopening for? No doubt when they mentioned ND he immediately thought of Knute Rockne. 

Macron wants to shoot his shot with Melania. He’s into older women.

[CooterBrown 18244]

On 12/1/2024 at 12:16 PM, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Texags right now...

[Willfully Horn 8154]

I’m curious about the countries to which turnip plans to deport folks. What if a country refuses to take them in? 

[royiv 9581]

3 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

I’m curious about the countries to which turnip plans to deport folks. What if a country refuses to take them in? 

What do you think the camps along the border that our state government is supporting are for?

[Willfully Horn 8154]

8 minutes ago, royiv said:

What do you think the camps along the border that our state government is supporting are for?

For the folks, which will apparently include people born in the USA, who are refused entry into their country of origin. And, if history is any guide, those camps will become labor camps, providing starvation diets, before they become death camps.

[royiv 9581]

5 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

For the folks, which will apparently include people born in the USA, who are refused entry into their country of origin. And, if history is any guide, those camps will become labor camps, providing starvation diets, before they become death camps.

Exactly.

[Gap03 3366]

34 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

What is not mentioned is that there is actually another option - corporate profits.  I realize not all imported goods are from huge multinational corporations with billion dollar market caps who could afford to pay their CEOs a few mil a year less and absorb big hits to the bottom line, but the point stands that corporations actually have a choice whether to raise prices.

Laughing in CEO - any economic scapegoat means profits go ... 

[Chad Fuck 18024]

16 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

For the folks, which will apparently include people born in the USA, who are refused entry into their country of origin. And, if history is any guide, those camps will become labor camps, providing starvation diets, before they become death camps.

[elguapo 4617]

47 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

I would like to say something about the effect of tariffs, and for that matter increasing the minimum wage.  For some unknown reason, every time these two things in particular are discussed, the only outcome mentioned is higher prices for consumers.  What is not mentioned is that there is actually another option - corporate profits.  I realize not all imported goods are from huge multinational corporations with billion dollar market caps who could afford to pay their CEOs a few mil a year less and absorb big hits to the bottom line, but the point stands that corporations actually have a choice whether to raise prices.

[softlynow 1893]

4 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Thing is, everyone who voted for Trump would still vote for him even if eggs are $1 each.  The man simply cannot lose support.  There's absolutely nothing on this planet that will cause this to happen.  Nothing at all.

He could have the past Congressional Medal of Honor recipients lined up and executed on national tv as he is standing there giving the order to shoot, and he would gain support.  Not only that, you would have roughly half the House and Senate eagerly signing onto a resolution fully supporting the executions.

Nothing matters anymore.  At least with Donald J. Trump.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correct. If he chose it, Dotard could end things like this:

[CooterBrown 18244]

We should start a company to grift these death camps. Surly Death and Internment Camps. Surly DIC if you will.  Just go all in on the business proposal.  Offer camp stays for $420/day, bread and mayonnaise sandwich meals at $69/each, and prison labor for the agricultural and construction industries.  Just put it all out there publicly.  Either it shames them into abandoning the idea or we get a few billion dollars in grift.

  

 

 

[royiv 9581]

4 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

We should start a company to grift these death camps. Surly Death and Internment Camps. Surly DIC if you will.  Just go all in on the business proposal.  Offer camp stays for $420/day, bread and mayonnaise sandwich meals at $69/each, and prison labor for the agricultural and construction industries.  Just put it all out there publicly.  Either it shames them into abandoning the idea or we get a few billion dollars in grift.

  

 

 

CoreCivic and GEO Group are salivating at the prospect of these detention camps. Would love to know how much money they funneled to the Trump campaign between the two of them.

[Brisketexan 106277]

9 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

We should start a company to grift these death camps. Surly Death and Internment Camps. Surly DIC if you will.  Just go all in on the business proposal.  Offer camp stays for $420/day, bread and mayonnaise sandwich meals at $69/each, and prison labor for the agricultural and construction industries.  Just put it all out there publicly.  Either it shames them into abandoning the idea or we get a few billion dollars in grift.

 

 

4 minutes ago, royiv said:

CoreCivic and GEO Group are salivating at the prospect of these detention camps. Would love to know how much money they funneled to the Trump campaign between the two of them.

100% these.

A reminder of the 13th Amendment:

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"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction".

That carve out is super important.  And it's the reason why the builders and mega-ag entities that funnel billions to Trump will not lose a second of cheap labor.  Here's how it works.

1) Juan is undocumented, and works for Perry Homes, making $25 per hour.

2) Juan is arrested, and charged with the crime of illegal entry.  Juan pleads guilty/is quickly convicted.

3) Juan's home country won't accept him, or Juan has a big fine to work off, or is sentenced to a significant chunk of time.  SO, Juan is sent to The Donald J. Trump Camp for Wayward Wetbacks to serve out his time, perhaps indefinitely (if his home country won't take him).

4) The DJTCFWW has a contract deal with Perry Homes.  It sends busses of laborers, including Juan, to Perry Homes job sites at a rate -- to be paid to DJTCFWW, a private corporation, majority owned and controlled by DJT enterprises -- of $20 per hour.  $.50 of that hourly rate is paid to Juan, in the DJTCFWW commissary account, which he can use to buy things like soap at $5 a bar.

5) RESULT: Perry Homes gets all the labor it wants, at a SAVINGS of $5 per hour, and DJT enterprises banks $19.50 per hour for the labor it provides to Perry Homes.  Now, bidness is bidness, and of the $152 per day that DJT enterprises makes on Juan's labor, it spends $50 per day in transport, infrastructure, and mayo sammich costs.  Meaning that DJT makes a measly profit of just over $100 per day per prisoner.

DJT Enterprises wins, bigly.  Perry Homes wins, bigly.

Juan....gets assfucked.  But, 13th Amendment bitches, so suck it!

 

We have a cadre of leadership in this country that remains pissed off that we got rid of Jim Crow laws, which created a pool of nearly free labor from black Americans.  So, we're gonna replace them with brown people.  PROBLEM SOLVED, AND AMERICA WORKING LIKE IT ALWAYS SHOULD HAVE!

[Pancho 45939]

So even watters has a segment on the Canada as the 51st state thing after turnip’s troll online this morning. 

These people are fucking idiots. 

[InkaUtexas 26712]

 

1 hour ago, royiv said:

CoreCivic and GEO Group are salivating at the prospect of these detention camps. Would love to know how much money they funneled to the Trump campaign between the two of them.

here is CoreCivic.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/corecivic-inc/summary?id=D000021940

And it is not just these two. Amentum (a LARGE) is trying to push into it. Shit, there is a small company in NB already on the action.

[InkaUtexas 26712]

3 hours ago, royiv said:

What do you think the camps along the border that our state government is supporting are for?

Nah, those are not for that. Not prisony enough.

Think GITMO.

[Sbbruin 22038]