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This whole thing is really the nightmare scenario:  that someone much smarter and more sophisticated than Trump gets hold of the reins behind the curtain and quietly and very effectively fucks up everything.

Elmo is actually smarter than Trump, yes, but he's a giant dildo in his own right, and can't keep his mouth shut, so it's far less of a nightmare scenario.

It's the Leonard Leos and Heritage fucks you really have to worry about, and there are plenty of them lurking around, but I don't think they're the type that Trump really likes, listens to, or feels he has their loyalty.

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14 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

This whole thing is really the nightmare scenario:  that someone much smarter and more sophisticated than Trump gets hold of the reins behind the curtain and quietly and very effectively fucks up everything.

Elmo is actually smarter than Trump, yes, but he's a giant dildo in his own right, and can't keep his mouth shut, so it's far less of a nightmare scenario.

It's the Leonard Leos and Heritage fucks you really have to worry about, and there are plenty of them lurking around, but I don't think they're the type that Trump really likes, listens to, or feels he has their loyalty.

You're gonna graduate from paragraphs to pages for bending over backwards to say why everything their doing is legally above reproach and they deserve their chance to fuck us all NowThis style

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

This whole thing is really the nightmare scenario:  that someone much smarter and more sophisticated than Trump gets hold of the reins behind the curtain and quietly and very effectively fucks up everything.

Elmo is actually smarter than Trump, yes, but he's a giant dildo in his own right, and can't keep his mouth shut, so it's far less of a nightmare scenario.

It's the Leonard Leos and Heritage fucks you really have to worry about, and there are plenty of them lurking around, but I don't think they're the type that Trump really likes, listens to, or feels he has their loyalty.

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2 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

How would a shutdown affect the inauguration? Would be hilarious if he was forced to have a smaller one. I would imagine they wouldn’t be able to have it at the Capitol building. Would military even be involved? He would probably have Proud Boys in their place 

Proud Boys as security.  It’ll be like Altamont v.2.  What could go wrong?

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2 hours ago, Captainant said:

You're gonna graduate from paragraphs to pages for bending over backwards to say why everything their doing is legally above reproach and they deserve their chance to fuck us all NowThis style

Where the fuck do you get that from what I typed?  You have a very active imagination.

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14 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Where the fuck do you get that from what I typed?  You have a very active imagination.

Sorry, a little unfair towards you. Last page you're going on and on how a jury should decide on trump's specious complaint over quoting a judge in her courtroom. It drives me nuts how much leeway you give the fascists and their tactics in your headspace and in your commentary. It validates and furthers normalization of the thought that he's doing things that any normal person would be doing. 

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Sorry, a little unfair towards you. Last page you're going on and on how a jury should decide on trump's specious complaint over quoting a judge in her courtroom. It drives me nuts how much leeway you give the fascists and their tactics in your headspace and in your commentary. It validates and furthers normalization of the thought that he's doing things that any normal person would be doing. 

I'm not going on and on.  Red Five asked how one judge's ruling in a different case didn't answer the question for all other cases, even similar ones.

I answered.

ABC could very likely have won their case, but Kaplan's ruling about Jean Carroll and "rape" as defamation didn't end the question for all time.

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15 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

It's a subtle thing, but by and large a different case between different parties under slightly different circumstances. 

Specifically,  Carroll said she was raped, her opinion and experience. She did not specifically refer to the court's/jury's verdict.  Trump tried to say that because the jury found that she wasn't "penisly" raped, it was defamation.  Kaplan held that her statement was substantially true, in part because the jury did find she was digitally penetrated and that the nonlegal meaning of rape included fingers as well as penises.

In this case, Stephanopoulos said the court found she was raped, that he was "found liable for rape."  And that is more inaccurate than what Carroll said.  Because when you start saying what a court did, as opposed to your opinion or experience (I/shewas raped), you're bound by what the court actually found or held according to the law it applied.  To wit:

"Here, of course, New York has opted to separate out a crime of rape; and Stephanopoulos’s statements dealt not with the public’s usage of that term, but the jury’s consideration of it during a formal legal proceeding. Thus, while Defendants’ cited cases are compelling, they are not directly responsive to the issue of whether it is substantially true to say a jury (or juries) found Plaintiff liable for rape by a jury despite the jury’s verdict expressly finding he was not liable for rape under New York Penal Law."

The opinion that declined to dismiss Trump's complaint.  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68351681/34/trump-v-american-broadcasting-companies-inc/

All the judge there said was, at least on the basis of the complaint itself, a jury is entitled to sort this out.

"To be clear, the Court is not reaching the merits of Plaintiff’s claims. Defendants may very well convince a reasonable factfinder to follow Judge Kaplan’s reasoning or to adopt other reasoning leading to the conclusion that Stephanopoulos’s statements were not defamatory. That is not the issue before the Court now. At this stage, the Court only decides that Defendants have not satisfied their burden to show collateral estoppel should apply, and that collateral estoppel would not be fairly applied in these circumstances."

ABC's case should have been crowd-funded for the simple reason that if ABC is found liable for this hyper-technical mischaracterization, then we'd be able to sue Fox News, Newsmax and every one of their anchors to Bolivia, which would absolutely be worth a few hundred million in legal fees and damages.   

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Last night, my wife was really beside herself.  A refresher; she's a fed and she has to report for work whenever there is a shutdown---she can't sit at home, pick up a new hobby, whatever---her job requires her to show up for work whenever she is scheduled.  For no pay, until the shutdown is resolved, then she will receive the backpay.

It's not the first shutdown she's ever experienced in her 20 years as a fed, nor will it be the last.  What is really grating to her, however, is this was totally created by a non-elected person with a dubious immigration history of his own with a platform that decided to bully the GOP into it.  Hell, even Trump was fine with the CR up until the moment he was bullied by Musk.  

Imagine that.  Musk bullied Trump. A man that receives billions from the federal government (oh, and as a contractor, his various companies will receive no money from the feds during a shutdown) has decided that the government needed shutting down, and turned his followers to elected officials who decided that by God, we have to do this because Elon and his congregration have told us to.

That's where we are as a country.

It's bad enough that hoping for Trump's death was one possibility into getting things back to a semi-normal place; now we have to hope for Musk's, too.

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, C-Man said:

Maybe ABC's decision makes sense from a "business" standpoint -- it unfortunately sets a very dangerous precedent. This will only embolden this piece of shit -- and others in his orbit -- to make further attacks at what is left of America's "free" press.

Which is precisely why the lawsuit was filed in the first place.  In addition to being a financially wise choice (versus the cost of litigation and risk of a runaway Trumpy jury), it also reflects ABC choosing to "kiss the ring" rather than fight a good fight as the 4th estate against the incoming fascist regime.

This also reflects the danger of corporate consolidation of the media.  When Disney/Amazon/Murdoch enterprises is making decisions that affect journalism, you are no longer independent.

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11 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Which is precisely why the lawsuit was filed in the first place.  In addition to being a financially wise choice (versus the cost of litigation and risk of a runaway Trumpy jury), it also reflects ABC choosing to "kiss the ring" rather than fight a good fight as the 4th estate against the incoming fascist regime.

This also reflects the danger of corporate consolidation of the media.  When Disney/Amazon/Murdoch enterprises is making decisions that affect journalism, you are no longer independent.

You'll get no argument from me. I'm somebody who spent nearly 10 years of my professional life in that realm, albeit on the sports side. All the Presidents' Men is probably in my top three favorite movies of all time. Bezos and other similar wide-ranging corporations owning news organizations is problematic to say the least.

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4 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:


Pure chaos that the American people voted for. And the people who voted for it have already turned away to whatever shiny thing is distracting them next.

So do we still have to self-reflect on how out of touch we--and Democrat policies--are to the common man now that we've 100% accurately predicted his pathetic sycophant appointments and pay-to-play governing (not that that was difficult), and Trump voters are done dunking on us because they're busy purposely ignoring the shit show?

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Nah - Doesn’t matter, we’re going to go the route of default before too long.  It’s either inflating our way out of debt or default.  As said elsewhere, we’re an unserious country in search of dopamine hits.  
 

I see this as the end state and probably some catastrophic event will need to happen to shock the populus before anything changes.

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39 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

trump is an expert at screwing over the farmers fafo .....

 

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27 minutes ago, GenXer said:


Eat shit, rural america. You bought this bag of shit. Time for you to feast on it.

22 minutes ago, royiv said:

Eat a dick, Zippy.

Fucking....these.

THIS.  IS WHAT.  YOU FUCKING.  WANTED.  NOW EAT THE SHIT SANDWICH THAT YOU ORDERED.

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Rural America had no capability to buy anything, and it’s not just ruralists complicit in his second term. Not by a long stretch. 

"Not just?"  Of course not.  Did they make up a material part of his support, because they voted for him at like an 80% clip?  You bet your fucking ass.

They stood at the counter chanting "SHIT SANDWICH!  SHIT SANDWICH!"  They ordered it.  They fucking DEMANDED it.  Now they gotta eat it.

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2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Rural America had no capability to buy anything, and it’s not just ruralists complicit in his second term. Not by a long stretch. 

Rural vs Urban is one of the single biggest correlations, that and educated vs uneducated.

 

That said... also fuck the suburban vote.

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"Not just?"  Of course not.  Did they make up a material part of his support, because they voted for him at like an 80% clip?  You bet your fucking ass.

They stood at the counter chanting "SHIT SANDWICH!  SHIT SANDWICH!"  They ordered it.  They fucking DEMANDED it.  Now they gotta eat it.

Given urban population is 280 million and is rural is 55 million, enjoy your misplaced outrage masquerading as humor. You really out to be a permanent co-host of The View. 

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I’ve said the following many times before on shaggy. You can reasonably predict the behavior of people and the outcome of situations by knowing the single most important life motivator for a person. 

With Trump it’s become pretty clear. He strives for as much money and stature as possible, that he can then demonstrate to the world, because he believes that will make up for his father’s enormous disappointment in him.

So he can be easily manipulated as long as it results in the maximum amount of money to him and strong stature. 

But with Elon I’m still not quite 100% sure. Is it to be massively richer than anyone on the planet, and he will go to any extreme to do it? Is it to be the most famous person in the world? Or is it something else?

If Elon’s goals don’t align with Trump’s desire for massive wealth and stature, I could see Trump actually just pushing him out of the way at the appropriate time, with Elon left holding his dick in his hands. 
But most likely this is a massive play by both to grift massive amounts of money via privatization and other actions. 
 

 

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4 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Rural America had no capability to buy anything, and it’s not just ruralists complicit in his second term. Not by a long stretch. 

Rural america needs to find their bootstraps, grab ahold of ‘em, and pull ‘em up.

They can all eat shit. Zero fucks given about them. The empathy train has left the station.

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Given urban population is 280 million and is rural is 55 million, enjoy your misplaced outrage masquerading as humor. You really out to be a permanent co-host of The View. 

Being that the race was decided by a few million votes, and I can count....yeah, rurals were KEY in fucking us.  Had rurals broken out at the same percentages as non-rural voters, Trump doesn't win in 2016 or 2024.  Math.

There is no demographic that loves him more.  They love him.  They want him.  They DEMANDED him.  Let them eat what they demanded.

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3 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

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The same thing we do every night, Pinky. …

 

55 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

trump is an expert at screwing over the farmers fafo .....

 

Interesting… so if farmers can’t buy seed and fertilizer or commit to hire seasonal labor, what happens to food prices next fall/summer?

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Being that the race was decided by a few million votes, and I can count....yeah, rurals were KEY in fucking us.  Had rurals broken out at the same percentages as non-rural voters, Trump doesn't win in 2016 or 2024.  Math.

There is no demographic that loves him more.  They love him.  They want him.  They DEMANDED him.  Let them eat what they demanded.

I don’t want you replacing Sunny Hostin because yall are basically the same person. And that show needs to maintain its groupthink. 

One of the narratives of the election is the massive shift in urban voters to that jackass. A much bigger shift than rural voters. Of course, he had the majority of rurals anyway. Still, is it any wonder they vote for him, versus subpar candidates that are supported by people that derisively tell them they’re uneducated buffoons voting for a fascist? 

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22 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Still, is it any wonder they vote for him, versus subpar candidates that are supported by people that derisively tell them they’re uneducated buffoons voting for a fascist? 

Subpar?  Compared to what?  Their competition?  (guffaw)  Let's assume the Democratic candidates are subpar to some theoretical standard.  I guess we should give the uneducated buffoons a pass because they voted for even worse candidates whose policies screw them over personally because they don't like being told they're (checks notes) uneducated buffoons?  

Seems to me like they're pretty on the mark, these subpar candidates.

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21 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Still, is it any wonder they vote for him, versus subpar candidates that are supported by people that derisively tell them they’re uneducated buffoons voting for a fascist? 

Are you saying the demographic that wears “fuck your feelings” shirts got their feelings hurt and that’s why they voted for the orange turd? They were always going to vote for him

 

of course they are not solely to blame, but I have no pity for them. They are getting what they asked for

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This would’ve been about the time we’d get a fresh story from lobo about him calling up a republican representative’s office and fucking with them.

RIP YGIFS

I’m tempted to call up my rep and demand no bailouts for farmers. Because socialism. And bootstraps. 

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39 minutes ago, GenXer said:

Because you replied to my comment with that “no capacity to buy anything” comment.

Are you developing dementia?

They have no capacity to “buy” anything. 

23 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Subpar?  Compared to what?  Their competition?  (guffaw)  Let's assume the Democratic candidates are subpar to some theoretical standard.  I guess we should give the uneducated buffoons a pass because they voted for even worse candidates whose policies screw them over personally because they don't like being told they're (checks notes) uneducated buffoons?  

Seems to me like they're pretty on the mark, these subpar candidates.

I voted for Kamala. She’s a significantly weaker candidate than Trump in my eyes. I voted for her because Trump isn’t emotionally fit to be President. Still doesn’t change that most of the country agrees that he is a better CANDIDATE. 

20 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Are you saying the demographic that wears “fuck your feelings” shirts got their feelings hurt and that’s why they voted for the orange turd? They were always going to vote for him

 

of course they are not solely to blame, but I have no pity for them. They are getting what they asked for

I don’t have pity for them. I don’t care. I’m also not gonna waste time scoreboarding them. It’s not productive, it’s a loser mentality, and they’re irrelevant to me anyway. 

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I voted for Kamala. She’s a significantly weaker candidate than Trump in my eyes. I voted for her because Trump isn’t emotionally fit to be President. Still doesn’t change that most of the country agrees that he is a better CANDIDATE. 

These sentences together make no sense to me at all.  I mean, thanks for voting for the logical choice, I guess.  

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These sentences together make no sense to me at all.  I mean, thanks for voting for the logical choice, I guess.  

Stronger in the GOP has its shit together behind him. Kamala wasn’t helped by Biden but she did nothing to segregate herself from him. Her campaign was “I’m not Trump”. They was good enough for me but I recognized her relative weakness. It wasn’t good enough for the majority of the country. I have voted exclusively GOP in my voting history. I abstained from voting for POTUS in ‘16 and ‘20. I have never and would never vote for Trump. 

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2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Only a Black woman who has been a senator and vice president is “significantly weaker” than turnip.

Most of the country didn’t agree turnip is a better candidate as he didn’t even get 50% of the vote. 

It had little to do with race/sex and people have got to stop with the racism and misogyny bullshit. It is totally counterproductive. 

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