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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

Stronger in the GOP has its shit together behind him. Kamala wasn’t helped by Biden but she did nothing to segregate herself from him. Her campaign was “I’m not Trump”. They was good enough for me but I recognized her relative weakness. It wasn’t good enough for the majority of the country. I have voted exclusively GOP in my voting history. I abstained from voting for POTUS in ‘16 and ‘20. I have never and would never vote for Trump. 

Please point to me where the majority of Americans have ever voted for Trump.

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56 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

Elected Dems referring to President Musk and VP Trump is genius.  That will start to eat at Trump in no time.

Democratic leaders need to just skip right past Trump and go directly to Elon to discuss policy, etc. That will drive him bananas.

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1 hour ago, washparkhorn said:

Eliminating the debt ceiling and removing it a suicide pill for nihilistic politicos is prudent. We have the dominant reserve currency—and the immense benefits of that status—because we do not default on our debts. 

Agree with this one 100%. The debt is unconscionably high, but the debt ceiling is the worst possible way to manage it. It served no function but to present catastrophic risk to the dollar, and by extension to the global economy.

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3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

trump is an expert at screwing over the farmers fafo .....

 

I live in an ag community.  I also work for the federal government.  Unfortunately, I work for an agency that still requires me to show up for work during the shutdown.  The last one lasted 35 days, so we were tardy on two paychecks. 

Every shutdown, without fail, local social media is overrun with posts by farmers/ranchers championing sticking it to the feds.  Here's one from 2018, for example, from a rancher who also owned a restaurant....

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A week later, he, along with many others in the ag community, were complaining to our senators and representative that they weren't getting their gubmint handouts or able to apply for loans because the Farm Service Agency was shut down.  Farmers across the country complained loud enough that the FSA's status was changed from furloughed to excepted, so as not to upset the "backbone of our country."

I think they should be forced to prove they didn't vote for Trumpmusk before getting any preferential treatment. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Stronger in the GOP has its shit together behind him. Kamala wasn’t helped by Biden but she did nothing to segregate herself from him. Her campaign was “I’m not Trump”. They was good enough for me but I recognized her relative weakness. It wasn’t good enough for the majority of the country. I have voted exclusively GOP in my voting history. I abstained from voting for POTUS in ‘16 and ‘20. I have never and would never vote for Trump. 

Previously you said the Democrats presented "subpar" candidates.  That implies you are referencing their qualifications, not the strength and cohesiveness of their party's support (as you now are suggesting).  I don't know what your vote has to do with your prior comment.  We were talking about why rural undereducated buffoons voted for GOP candidates who are clearly worse than those "subpar" democrats because their policies run directly contrary to those voters' interests.

Also, a majority of the country didn't vote for Trump.  Hell, even a majority of the voters didn't.  (Hint--it was a plurality, and by one of the slimmest margins in history).

2 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

It had little to do with race/sex and people have got to stop with the racism and misogyny bullshit. It is totally counterproductive. 

Well, when you suggest that the dotard is better qualified to be president than a former DA, senator, and vice-president, what do you expect?

1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

For all intents and purposes, in this election, but you fail to see the (slightly) nuanced point I was making. 

We don't see your point because it shifted from one post to the next.

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Agree with this one 100%. The debt is unconscionably high, but the debt ceiling is the worst possible way to manage it. It served no function but to present catastrophic risk to the dollar, and by extension to the global economy.

I totally agree that the debt ceiling is ridiculous. However, I don’t think it’s politically prudent for the Senate to go along with the R negotiated package and that’s assuming they can even get it out of the House. There is no need to give a pass to Trump and the morons for the next 2 years. If you want to run the place, then be adults and do the responsible things.

If they can’t bring the Chip Roy’s of the world around, then the House and Senate Dems will give up significant leverage to impact legislation over the next 2 years.

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41 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

great job president musk ....

 

 

While this is terrible news, even if it had passed, RFK would have taken a scalpel to this or shifted the funds because of some theory that pediatric cancer was caused by immunizations, therefore this money would better for raw milk subsidies or some other bullshit.

 

 

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49 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

I totally agree that the debt ceiling is ridiculous. However, I don’t think it’s politically prudent for the Senate to go along with the R negotiated package and that’s assuming they can even get it out of the House. There is no need to give a pass to Trump and the morons for the next 2 years. If you want to run the place, then be adults and do the responsible things.

If they can’t bring the Chip Roy’s of the world around, then the House and Senate Dems will give up significant leverage to impact legislation over the next 2 years.

It’s irrelevant because they have nobody to negotiate with at the moment. Their best friend right now is Chip Roy. 

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3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

While this is terrible news, even if it had passed, RFK would have taken a scalpel to this or shifted the funds because of some theory that pediatric cancer was caused by immunizations, therefore this money would better for raw milk subsidies or some other bullshit.

 

 

 

curious if he's making decisions before or after riding the H 

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1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

Likelihood that the guy with the motorcycle helmet, gun, and crossbow on his door cam is Nick Fuentes?  95 percent.

 

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

I always think people put down their weapon when trying to kill someone right?

And leave one of their shoes untied.

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1 hour ago, Jive Turkey said:

Bwahahaha. Still blaming the Dems for their own incompetence. Never change, MAGA. And why would they. This shit works with the unwashed masses.

 

It didn’t even get close to 218.  They blew up a bill they negotiated with Dems, then negotiated a new one with themselves, and blew that one up too.  Whatever.  Expected.  

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5 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

Eliminating the debt ceiling and removing it a suicide pill for nihilistic politicos is prudent. We have the dominant reserve currency—and the immense benefits of that status—because we do not default on our debts. 

They want destroy the dollar. Don’t you even crypto bro

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6 hours ago, C-Man said:


Has this been discussed yet?

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A reminder that Roman emperors did not call themselves that (at least as we understand the word) and that they were persnickety about maintaining the trappings of republican rule.  They accumulated sets of existing and newly created offices, titles, and honorific and cobbled together the structure of imperial rule with the assent of the Senate. 

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7 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Still doesn’t change that most of the country agrees that he is a better CANDIDATE. 

Wrong. 29% of US adults voted for Trump.  Nowhere near "most." 

According to Wikipedia, Trump got 49.9% of the popular vote. Close, but not a majority there either. Kamala got 48.4%

It was a very close race. If a football score was 49-48, it would be called a close game. 

It is those idiot world red maps... or an antiquated electoral college system .. that give the illusion of a wipeout. 

 

7 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

tell them they’re uneducated buffoons voting for a fascist? 

They voted for a fascist and fascist party. If they don't realize that, they are, indeed, buffoons. 100% fucking buffoons! 

And the rest of us are getting fucked ... in one way or another because of it. 

 

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14 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

They voted for a fascist and fascist party. If they don't realize that, they are, indeed, buffoons. 100% fucking buffoons! 

And the rest of us are getting fucked ... in one way or another because of it. 

No and no. I didn’t vote for him by the way, but the fascism comments are ridiculous. 

4 hours ago, royiv said:

Your point wasn’t nuanced in the least. It was idiotic.

It requires you to think. Trump was the stronger candidate. It wasn’t particularly close. 

4 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

Previously you said the Democrats presented "subpar" candidates.  That implies you are referencing their qualifications, not the strength and cohesiveness of their party's support (as you now are suggesting).  I don't know what your vote has to do with your prior comment.  We were talking about why rural undereducated buffoons voted for GOP candidates who are clearly worse than those "subpar" democrats because their policies run directly contrary to those voters' interests.

Also, a majority of the country didn't vote for Trump.  Hell, even a majority of the voters didn't.  (Hint--it was a plurality, and by one of the slimmest margins in history).

Well, when you suggest that the dotard is better qualified to be president than a former DA, senator, and vice-president, what do you expect?

We don't see your point because it shifted from one post to the next.

Kamala was a poor candidate. Hence subpar. I’m not referencing her credentials. People don’t vote on that. A multitude of factors comprise how strong a candidate is. Not the least of which of much their party is behind them. Dems did a good job of unification, but it was a clusterfuck this summer. Biden’s ego put em in that predicament, but there is zero chance Kamala would’ve been the nominee in Feb ‘24 in normal course.  Because she’s a subpar candidate.

My point is this is why many voted for Trump, particularly his predictable bases but many others. I only offered my vote because I don’t vote for the best candidate which often is the most electable candidate for superficial reasons rather than paper qualifications.  I voted against an evil clown.  It wasn’t a vote for Kamala.

His plurality (thanks for the hint, fuckface) was 0.2% away from being a majority. Had he been in a runoff with just Harris, he would’ve had it easily. Why are you and others parsing words on a minor point?  

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6 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

Get refuted and you just gotta hurl an insult and name call. "Fuck face" ... Is that the best ya got? 

You said "most of the country" -- 29% of adults is not most, not even close.

That was my main point. I brought up the 49.9% to show he did not win a majority of the vote. Because he did not and damn near everyone I talk to thinks he did. And are very surprised he didn't. And I am talking liberals and lefties. 

Please feel free to call me something. But be more creative than fuck face!

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I was talking to my friend DDD. Calm down bro. There’s something called an electorate. And, for all intents and purposes, he won a majority. 

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