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53 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Sure, let's run more California politicians. Especially a slick-haired one with "radical" ideas. It's going to work this time.

Well if you prefer the run to the middle and lose again strategy then okay. It doesn't matter who the Democrats put up, the right will call that person "radical" and it will work because CNN and others will repeat the line. 

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6 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Well if you prefer the run to the middle and lose again strategy then okay. It doesn't matter who the Democrats put up, the right will call that person "radical" and it will work because CNN and others will repeat the line. 

I get what you're saying, I do, but over half the country--even people who occasionally vote blue--reflexively roll their eyes when they hear the phrase "California politics." That's decades of propaganda that can't be undone at this point.

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Imagine what the King of Debt would do with an American sovereign wealth fund.  

U.S. Faces Record Debt Levels as Republicans Plan Tax Cuts
The Congressional Budget Office forecasts that annual deficits will top $21 trillion over the next decade.

The United States is poised to add trillions of dollars to the national debt over the next decade as the mounting costs of social safety net programs and growing interest expenses dig the nation into a deeper fiscal hole, according to a report released on Friday by the Congressional Budget Office.

The new budget forecasts predicted that the United States will record a $1.9 trillion budget deficit this fiscal year and that annual deficits over the next decade will total $21.1 trillion. That will be piled on to a national debt that currently exceeds $36 trillion.

By 2035, the debt as a share of the U.S. economy will rise to 118 percent, the largest in history. The debt is currently 100 percent of gross domestic product.

Although the figures show slightly smaller deficits than what the C.B.O. projected last June, thanks to higher salaries and stock values, the nation’s fiscal situation is poised to become far more precarious.

That’s because the budget office’s outlook assumes that the 2017 tax cuts that are scheduled to expire this year will actually come to an end, and that tax revenues will start to increase next year. But with President-elect Donald J. Trump set to retake the White House next week and Republicans fully in control of Congress, those tax cuts are almost certainly going to be extended.

Continuing the tax cuts is expected to cost more than $4 trillion over the next decade, according to previous estimates from the Congressional Budget Office.

Spoiler

Mr. Trump and his advisers have expressed concern about the national debt, but have offered few specifics about how they would shrink the shortfall.

At his confirmation hearing this week, Scott Bessent, Mr. Trump’s pick to be Treasury secretary, said he believed that the United States had a “spending problem” but did not share details about what he would advise cutting. He said that “federal domestic discretionary spending” should be adjusted and pointed to the importance of cutting waste.

“The federal government has a significant spending problem driving deficits,” Mr. Bessent said. “We must work to get our fiscal house in order.”

Mr. Bessent suggested that the country could improve its fiscal situation by creating an American sovereign wealth fund that would “leverage” U.S. assets. He has set a goal of reducing the annual budget deficit to 3 percent of G.D.P. from the 6.2 percent that the C.B.O. projects for this year.

Mr. Trump has announced plans to create a so-called Department of Government Efficiency that will look for ways to reduce wasteful spending. However, it will not have the power to actually cut spending and will instead largely operate as an advisory committee. It is unclear if its recommendations will be heeded.

The president-elect has downplayed the impact that extending his tax cuts — and adding new tax breaks — would have on the budget deficit, saying that the United States can generate tax revenue from tariffs on imports to cover the cost. Mr. Trump said this week that he would create a new “External Revenue Service” to collect the duties, which are now collected by Customers and Border Protection.

Still, Mr. Trump’s tariffs would make only a small debt in annual deficits. The Tax Foundation, a right-leaning think tank, estimates that a 20 percent universal tariff would raise $3.3 trillion from 2025 through 2034.

Other policies that Mr. Trump and Republicans are considering are also likely to increase deficits.

The C.B.O. report noted that the rescission of $20 billion from the Internal Revenue Service, which would have used the funds to go after tax cheats, would add $46 billion to deficits through 2034.

Republicans are expected to cut more funding for the I.R.S., and Mr. Bessent suggested this week that the agency should focus on using its resources to upgrade its technology rather than chase wealthy tax evaders.

 

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Transition Live Updates: Trump Says Inauguration Will Take Place Indoors

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/17/us/trump-confirmation-hearings-news?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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President-elect Donald J. Trump announced that he would move his inauguration ceremony inside the Capitol Rotunda on Monday because extreme cold is forecast. The move is a break with tradition and would deny Mr. Trump some of the pomp and pageantry he wanted for his second swearing-in. Read more ›

 


Hahahahahahahahaha

 

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8 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Transition Live Updates: Trump Says Inauguration Will Take Place Indoors

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/17/us/trump-confirmation-hearings-news?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


Hahahahahahahahaha

 

Well it's hard to ask a 78-year-old to sit out in freezing weather for that long. 

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2 hours ago, Skipper said:

Not sure where else to put this and sports related but don't want to cloak room up the NIL thread.  But the idiotic DOE policy position on Title IX is the kind of dumb shit democrats constantly do that gets people like Trump elected.   

Taking the position that post settlement funds that schools can pay athletes as NIL is actually "financial assistance" subject to Title IX is so mind numbingly idiotic it's hard to wrap my arms around.  Sure DOE, a fucking scholarship rower nobody has or will ever hear of (that is already a material revenue loss due to Title IX) should be paid "equal" to Collin Simmons and the like in fucking "NIL".  So fucking stupid and a massive unforced error at the end of the Biden Administration that would literally destroy athletic departments across the country if actually implemented and cost hundreds of female scholarships.

This is just the kind of unnecessary 'woke' shit with no basis in reality that liberals in govt positions push through that make headlines and constantly make it harder for D's than it should be as it relates to your average American that has a lick of common sense.

I hate it too, but the problem is the colleges holding to the farce that the athletes are amateurs and students first and that college football is just another student activity and not a multi-billion dollar industry. The reality is that college football players create a product that draws in billions of dollars and to date have not been paid for their contribution to the product. Even the House settlement is pretending that revenue sharing is in exchange solely for NIL not labor. The schools will continue to fight to avoid employer obligations, unionization of the athletes, and everything else that highly profitable employers face. If, on paper, they are all amateur "student athletes," then equal treatment is required. If divested as a business, payments can be based on a true profit sharing model meaning football players make a bunch of money while lacrosse players (of either gender) don't because they don't create profit. But I know this is 'murica 2025 so blame the libruls for woke dei something or other. 

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36 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I hate it too, but the problem is the colleges holding to the farce that the athletes are amateurs and students first and that college football is just another student activity and not a multi-billion dollar industry. The reality is that college football players create a product that draws in billions of dollars and to date have not been paid for their contribution to the product. Even the House settlement is pretending that revenue sharing is in exchange solely for NIL not labor. The schools will continue to fight to avoid employer obligations, unionization of the athletes, and everything else that highly profitable employers face. If, on paper, they are all amateur "student athletes," then equal treatment is required. If divested as a business, payments can be based on a true profit sharing model meaning football players make a bunch of money while lacrosse players (of either gender) don't because they don't create profit. But I know this is 'murica 2025 so blame the libruls for woke dei something or other. 

Regardless of the farce that NIL is (which I agree), it is in theory tied to fucking value of your name image and likeness.   Which is zero for a bunch of athletes in non-revenue producing sports.   I'll dive into the legal arguments once we inevitably get there, but it's absolutely stretch to tie this to Title IX financial assistance, and yeah, I'm sorry, this would only come from a democrat DOE

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2 hours ago, mdmost said:

So we'll get to hear whining for the next 4 years about how he would've had the greatest crowds in history for a 2nd termer if the weather didn't force people inside.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/17/politics/inauguration-moving-indoors-cold-weather/index.html

Excuse me! MTG has stated, repeatedly, that democrats can mind-control the weather. The FLA legislature has been debating a bill (put forth by a diSantis minion) making such mind control of weather a crime. So...I say lets' give this weather control a shot. At least, then, we'd get to compare crowd size to 4 years ago. 

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12 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Regardless of the farce that NIL is (which I agree), it is in theory tied to fucking value of your name image and likeness.   Which is zero for a bunch of athletes in non-revenue producing sports.   I'll dive into the legal arguments once we inevitably get there, but it's absolutely stretch to tie this to Title IX financial assistance, and yeah, I'm sorry, this would only come from a democrat DOE

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

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I get weather, but does anybody think this guy doesn't deep down know how piss poor attendance was at his last inauguration or that he didn't see how many of his rallies were very poorly attended.  He won because people are stupid and lazy but he hasn't exactly engendered huge in-person showings of support in a long time.  He can blame the weather and whine forever about it that things would have been YUGE if not for that nasty woman Mother Nature.  

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3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I get weather, but does anybody think this guy doesn't deep down know how piss poor attendance was at his last inauguration or that he didn't see how many of his rallies were very poorly attended.  He won because people are stupid and lazy but he hasn't exactly engendered huge in-person showings of support in a long time.  He can blame the weather and whine forever about it that things would have been YUGE if not for that nasty woman Mother Nature.  

It's red meat for the Jan 6 crowd.  He's returning to the scene of the crime and all.

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2 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

 

William Henry Harrison wasn't afraid of the weather....Trump shouldn't be either.

58 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

I bet he would hold it outside if someone told him he would have a chance to break Harrison's presidential record.

Dammit.

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

worked for Harrison

Double dammit.

 

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More practically for Trump, an indoor inauguration will make the crowd look bigger and thus easier to lie about.

(surlyhorn patented sidebar:  did not know or recall that about WH Harrison, but reading the wiki article, the medical treatments in those days: mustard plasters, leeches, cupping, castor oil, laudanum, opium, camphor (probably then known as asofoetida). It's a wonder anyone survived anything).

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

More practically for Trump, an indoor inauguration will make the crowd look bigger and thus easier to lie about.

(surlyhorn patented sidebar:  did not know or recall that about WH Harrison, but reading the wiki article, the medical treatments in those days: mustard plasters, leeches, cupping, castor oil, laudanum, opium, camphor (probably then known as asofoetida). It's a wonder anyone survived anything).

You have RFK Jr’s attention with these innovative alternative medications 

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

(surlyhorn patented sidebar:  did not know or recall that about WH Harrison, but reading the wiki article, the medical treatments in those days: mustard plasters, leeches, cupping, castor oil, laudanum, opium, camphor (probably then known as asofoetida). It's a wonder anyone survived anything).


Just a regular Tuesday night for Elon

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4 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

It’s gonna be a high of like 25, low of 10 and sunny. Yeah it’s cold, but it’s not THAT fucking cold. If you’re going to DC in January, you should have coats and scarves and shit. There’s something else to this being moved indoors other than it being cold 

 

DC has a 70% or so occupancy rate at all the hotels this weekend.  It wasn't going to have the crowd that he has to have.

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

It’s gonna be a high of like 25, low of 10 and sunny. Yeah it’s cold, but it’s not THAT fucking cold. If you’re going to DC in January, you should have coats and scarves and shit. There’s something else to this being moved indoors other than it being cold 

I sure hope there’s no sheets of freezing rain or sleet that form all over DC during the installation. Would really hate to see it.

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