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9 hours ago, mdmost said:

The social media version of the continuing resolution and debt limit fights.

 

On the TikTok thing ... I am going to try to apply some logic to this situation which I am honestly hesitant to do, but here goes.

TikTok is going dark because we have A LAW against it.  We also have the first amendment, but set that aside like the Supremes just did.  TikTok, as of tomorrow, is not legal in the United States.  The law specifically calls out ByteDance and TikTok.  The law gives the President the power to both designate new apps as "foreign adversary controlled" and determine that a foreign adversary controlled app is no longer controlled by a foreign adversary.

The Supreme Court has just determined that this law is constitutional.

Trump is taking an oath on Monday to faithfully execute the office of President.  Part of the job description as stated in the Constitution is to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

Where does he get the 90 day thing?

We are a nation of laws.  We have a law banning TikTok that goes in to effect on Sunday, our highest court has said it's constitutional, and we have a new guy on Monday that is responsible for executing the laws.  He should not get to take an oath in the morning to do his job and then later in the day pick and choose which laws are OK and which should be suspended for 90 days.

I'm not in favor of the TikTok ban but it's the current law of the land and he's the guy responsible for enforcing it, whether he likes it or not.

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2 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

On the TikTok thing ... I am going to try to apply some logic to this situation which I am honestly hesitant to do, but here goes.

TikTok is going dark because we have A LAW against it.  We also have the first amendment, but set that aside like the Supremes just did.  TikTok, as of tomorrow, is not legal in the United States.  The law specifically calls out ByteDance and TikTok.  The law gives the President the power to both designate new apps as "foreign adversary controlled" and determine that a foreign adversary controlled app is no longer controlled by a foreign adversary.

The Supreme Court has just determined that this law is constitutional.

Trump is taking an oath on Monday to faithfully execute the office of President.  Part of the job description as stated in the Constitution is to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

Where does he get the 90 day thing?

We are a nation of laws.  We have a law banning TikTok that goes in to effect on Sunday, our highest court has said it's constitutional, and we have a new guy on Monday that is responsible for executing the laws.  He should not get to take an oath in the morning to do his job and then later in the day pick and choose which laws are OK and which should be suspended for 90 days.

I'm not in favor of the TikTok ban but it's the current law of the land and he's the guy responsible for enforcing it, whether he likes it or not.

Forget it Jake, it's Donald Trump

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14 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

On the TikTok thing ... I am going to try to apply some logic to this situation which I am honestly hesitant to do, but here goes.

TikTok is going dark because we have A LAW against it.  We also have the first amendment, but set that aside like the Supremes just did.  TikTok, as of tomorrow, is not legal in the United States.  The law specifically calls out ByteDance and TikTok.  The law gives the President the power to both designate new apps as "foreign adversary controlled" and determine that a foreign adversary controlled app is no longer controlled by a foreign adversary.

The Supreme Court has just determined that this law is constitutional.

Trump is taking an oath on Monday to faithfully execute the office of President.  Part of the job description as stated in the Constitution is to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

Where does he get the 90 day thing?

We are a nation of laws.  We have a law banning TikTok that goes in to effect on Sunday, our highest court has said it's constitutional, and we have a new guy on Monday that is responsible for executing the laws.  He should not get to take an oath in the morning to do his job and then later in the day pick and choose which laws are OK and which should be suspended for 90 days.

I'm not in favor of the TikTok ban but it's the current law of the land and he's the guy responsible for enforcing it, whether he likes it or not.

A part of the law is that the President can issue a 90 day suspension in the event an agreement is close to sell it from ByteDance to an American company. 

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3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Forget it Jake, it's Donald Trump

The technical answers are:

a) the Supreme Court did not actually decide that the law was constitutional, but in a "shadow docket" decision decided that it was "constitutional enough" not to be enjoined pending the real appeal on the merits

b) the "take care" clause generally permits some leeway or discretion in enforcing or otherwise carrying out laws, short of outright defiance

Finally, there's little mechanism for enforcing the take care clause, other than impeachment.  Finding standing to assert that the 90-day executive order violates the take care clause would be difficult and would certainly not conclude before it became moot.

 

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The other big question on Tik Tok is why the fuck Byte Dance isn't offshoring itself from the PRC with all deliberate speed.

That may tell you all you need to know, right there.

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29 minutes ago, mdmost said:

A part of the law is that the President can issue a 90 day suspension in the event an agreement is close to sell it from ByteDance to an American company. 

I looked, and didn't see it, although maybe this isn't the correct text:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521/text

However I am not a lawyer so perhaps it's in there in some way I don't understand.

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This is the most ridiculous shit ever. Google a d Facebook collect about 1000x more info on people than byte dance.

But some old puny piece of shit is going to make a law about things they know nothing about…

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Meanwhile the richest person in human history, who has his hand up Trump’s ass is releasing private DMs from the platform he owns of convos with a game streamer he is having a spat with who said he wasn’t a L33T gamer.

It’s fucking madness

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5 hours ago, Texas Jeff said:

On the TikTok thing ... I am going to try to apply some logic to this situation which I am honestly hesitant to do, but here goes.

TikTok is going dark because we have A LAW against it.  We also have the first amendment, but set that aside like the Supremes just did.  TikTok, as of tomorrow, is not legal in the United States.  The law specifically calls out ByteDance and TikTok.  The law gives the President the power to both designate new apps as "foreign adversary controlled" and determine that a foreign adversary controlled app is no longer controlled by a foreign adversary.

The Supreme Court has just determined that this law is constitutional.

Trump is taking an oath on Monday to faithfully execute the office of President.  Part of the job description as stated in the Constitution is to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

Where does he get the 90 day thing?

We are a nation of laws.  We have a law banning TikTok that goes in to effect on Sunday, our highest court has said it's constitutional, and we have a new guy on Monday that is responsible for executing the laws.  He should not get to take an oath in the morning to do his job and then later in the day pick and choose which laws are OK and which should be suspended for 90 days.

I'm not in favor of the TikTok ban but it's the current law of the land and he's the guy responsible for enforcing it, whether he likes it or not.

Is he going to swear an oath? He shouldn’t. It will be meaningless just like it was the last time. He won’t honor it. We all know that. 

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5 hours ago, Texas Jeff said:

I looked, and didn't see it, although maybe this isn't the correct text:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521/text

However I am not a lawyer so perhaps it's in there in some way I don't understand.

Weird law, I can't quite figure it out.  Most federal laws end up codified into US Code ("U.S.C.") and part of it is here, at 15 USC 9901. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/9901

But parts of it specific to TikTok don't seem to have been codified yet and can be found here, in the general statutes. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-118publ50/pdf/PLAW-118publ50.pdf around p. 66.

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Today Trump will take credit for The Commander’s playoff win and on day one will issue an Executive Order to change their name back to The Redskins.

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Just checking in with CR. Been away for a while.

So... the Wheels of Justice ... are they still rolling forward inexorably ... to save us from a Trump-Musk dictatorship?

Any Surly top shelf law dogs got a status update?

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7 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

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This is the most ridiculous shit ever. Google a d Facebook collect about 1000x more info on people than byte dance.

But some old puny piece of shit is going to make a law about things they know nothing about…

Getting locked out of a Snap is a net positive for most people lmao

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11 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Snoop’s best days have passed.  Even Martha Stewart is more “gangsta” than him because at least she actually went to prison.  What the hell is a “jigaboo ass nigga” anyways?

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3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Next you’ll tell me he wasn’t really the biggest fan of the American Olympic team!

I sometimes chuckle thinking what The Chronic era Snoop Doggy Dogg would think of middle age Snoop Dogg. 

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10 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I sometimes chuckle thinking what The Chronic era Snoop Doggy Dogg would think of middle age Snoop Dogg. 

He would call himself a jigaboo ass nigga

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Schedule for tomorrow. I love the theme.

  • the procession to the Capitol; 
  • the vice president's swearing-in ceremony; 
  • the president's swearing-in ceremony; 
  • the inaugural address;
  • the honorary departure of the outgoing president and vice president; 
  • the signing ceremony, during which the new president signs nominations, memorandums, proclamations or executive orders; 
  • the inaugural luncheon; 
  • and the pass in review, during which the president and vice president review military troops before leading the parade down Pennsylvania Avenue to the White House.

The theme of this year's ceremonies is "Our Enduring Democracy: A Constitutional Promise."

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7 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Schedule for tomorrow. I love the theme.

  • the procession to the Capitol; 
  • the vice president's swearing-in ceremony; 
  • the president's swearing-in ceremony; 
  • the inaugural address;
  • the honorary departure of the outgoing president and vice president; 
  • the signing ceremony, during which the new president signs nominations, memorandums, proclamations or executive orders; 
  • the inaugural luncheon; 
  • and the pass in review, during which the president and vice president review military troops before leading the parade down Pennsylvania Avenue to the White House.

The theme of this year's ceremonies is "Our Enduring Democracy: A Constitutional Promise."

Day one of propaganda from the new admin. 

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1 hour ago, mdmost said:

I sometimes chuckle thinking what The Chronic era Snoop Doggy Dogg would think of middle age Snoop Dogg. 

Any idea who this guy is?

 

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1 hour ago, mdmost said:

I sometimes chuckle thinking what The Chronic era Snoop Doggy Dogg would think of middle age Snoop Dogg. 

 

He might think that making cash in America is easy.

 

 

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3 hours ago, TexPx said:

Today Trump will take credit for The Commander’s playoff win and on day one will issue an Executive Order to change their name back to The Redskins.

I’d prefer the The Washington Footballs

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When Trump "saves Tik Tok" on Tuesday after being the guy who called for it to be banned just a few short years ago and then somehow ends up with a stake in the new company who owns it, it will be just yet another masterclass in how he's able to snow both the media and the public while keeping his eternal grift going.

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Just now, mdmost said:

When Trump "saves Tik Tok" on Tuesday after being the guy who called for it to be banned just a few short years ago and then somehow ends up with a stake in the new company who owns it, it will be just yet another masterclass in how he's able to snow both the media and the public while keeping his eternal grift going.

Per my kids TikTok came back up in the last hour...so yea.  

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7 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Per my kids TikTok came back up in the last hour...so yea.  

Yea! More brain rot for our youth who will now see Trump as the person who saved their Tik Tok when this was all a stunt. 

Meanwhile, Tom Cotton is not happy with it so maybe there will be some Senators with spines for a short little while.

 

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

Yea! More brain rot for our youth who will now see Trump as the person who save their Tik Tok when this was all a stunt. 

Meanwhile, Tom Cotton is not happy with it so maybe there will be some Senators with spines for a short little while.

 

Trump isn't even sworn in yet.  

But, Cotton surprised me here.  He'll get back in line soon enough.

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