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So when we do spring cleaning, my wife takes a room and I take a room.  After a day, I've thrown away two things and read a bunch of old books and looked at old stuff and plugged in stuff I'll never use again.  She's basically taken a truckload of shit to the good will and half priced books, and will invariably include a few things I wish she hadn't, but then I'll forget about them in 24 hours.  She cleans the government like MAGA and I clean like sleepy Joe.

The question is whether after the gutting we will ever be able to "Build Back Better".

I'm an employment lawyer, and I want to stress, in my opinion, solely based on my personal experience, the OFCCP is the most useless government agency I've ever dealt with.  It's hard to imagine that they could not be - could have been more -- efficient or that we could craft legislation that achieves some of the same goals more efficiently and in fact, better. (Or in fact focus on attention on persons hiring economically disadvantaged without regard to protected classification).)

I think the answer that most of you will gravitate to is - no, we may not ever have a chance to build back better.  I probably still am the more optimistic school, but I'm not really sure why.

Ending Radical And Wasteful Government DEI Programs And Preferencing – The White House

It is being reported that President Trump has rescinded Executive Order 11,246, which has long required “affirmative action” programs for companies doing contract work with the federal government. 

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13 minutes ago, Covri said:

If I went online after a company event and trashed the keynote speaker like trump did that preacher I'd he fired within 24 hours.

 

Or I.  Or anyone I work with.  And most, if not everyone here.

But the rules really don't apply to him.  Shit, nothing does.  He's a convicted felon, and one can argue "see! he's not above the law!".

Yes, yes he is.    Wake me up when he suffers any consequences of, well....anything.

 

 

 

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Where has history seen this before?

Hitler and the Nazis hated modern architecture, shut down the Bauhaus, and mandated a return to classical architecture ... albeit with a German spin via Hitler's architect Albert Speer.

Surly fascist lackeys will follow suit and croon about all the great "classical" capitol buildings in America. 

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So I wonder which American architect will be Trump's Speer?

Ya know some MAGA and conservative architects are lining up for the chance to "Make Architecture Great Again."

We are literally in 1930s Germany again.

Modernity and the modern world are literally under siege. 

 

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8 hours ago, C-Man said:

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When the majority of medical school graduates are female, I will never understand why any woman would seek primary healthcare from on old dude. Heck, I feel the same way myself. My last two internists have been younger females and I’ve been extremely happy with them. I’ve found they spend a lot more time listening and having a dialogue about my health so that any treatment is a collaboration between them and me.

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2 minutes ago, royiv said:

When the majority of medical school graduates are female, I will never understand why any woman would seek primary healthcare from on old dude. Heck, I feel the same way myself. My last two internists have been younger females and I’ve been extremely happy with them. I’ve found they spend a lot more time listening and having a dialogue about my health so that any treatment is a collaboration between them and me.

All else being equal, I tend to gravitate toward female doctors vs. male.  I think women are better suited to being doctors. 

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1 hour ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

So MAGATs are going to celebrate the first jobs report under dotard when it shows an uptick in unemployment, right?

Just like they will when the O&G layoffs start hitting. They'll be so tired of winning. They'll come to him with tears in their eyes and say, "Please, sir. We can't win anymore!"

The federal agency responsible for reporting the jobs report will be DOGE'd. Problem solved.

 

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14 minutes ago, royiv said:

When the majority of medical school graduates are female, I will never understand why any woman would seek primary healthcare from on old dude. Heck, I feel the same way myself. My last two internists have been younger females and I’ve been extremely happy with them. I’ve found they spend a lot more time listening and having a dialogue about my health so that any treatment is a collaboration between them and me.

As a man, I only pick female doctors so I can have a woman who's not my wife, fondle my balls once a year.

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11 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

All else being equal, I tend to gravitate toward female doctors vs. male.  I think women are better suited to being doctors. 

 

14 minutes ago, royiv said:

When the majority of medical school graduates are female, I will never understand why any woman would seek primary healthcare from on old dude. Heck, I feel the same way myself. My last two internists have been younger females and I’ve been extremely happy with them. I’ve found they spend a lot more time listening and having a dialogue about my health so that any treatment is a collaboration between them and me.

Both of these....

If you're an older woman and from back in the day, I understand why you'd have a male doctor as there weren't any women.  Now, it's well over half and in some specialties, it might be 80%.  My wife has specifically found an all female cast of doctors.  They just understand her body better.  OBGYN goes without saying.

Also, to the second point, I just find they have better people skills in the office.  I don't have all women but my primary and her nurse practitioner are both women.

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4 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

It's like he stopped mentally growing as a bully in 3rd grade. He uses the same language over and over with anything he dislikes. "Nasty, not smart, boring, not very good at her job, owes an apology, ungracious." He believes power is in fear and how much you have in your checking account. I can't call him my President because he's not at all presidential - he gives no joy or hope. He's not uplifting, he's just a hateful, immature old man and I have less than zero respect for him. He's vapor.

And it's brought him to the verge of being dictator of the U.S.A.

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39 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

So when we do spring cleaning, my wife takes a room and I take a room.  After a day, I've thrown away two things and read a bunch of old books and looked at old stuff and plugged in stuff I'll never use again.  She's basically taken a truckload of shit to the good will and half priced books, and will invariably include a few things I wish she hadn't, but then I'll forget about them in 24 hours.  She cleans the government like MAGA and I clean like sleepy Joe.

The question is whether after the gutting we will ever be able to "Build Back Better".

I'm an employment lawyer, and I want to stress, in my opinion, solely based on my personal experience, the OFCCP is the most useless government agency I've ever dealt with.  It's hard to imagine that they could not be - could have been more -- efficient or that we could craft legislation that achieves some of the same goals more efficiently and in fact, better. (Or in fact focus on attention on persons hiring economically disadvantaged without regard to protected classification).)

I think the answer that most of you will gravitate to is - no, we may not ever have a chance to build back better.  I probably still am the more optimistic school, but I'm not really sure why.

Ending Radical And Wasteful Government DEI Programs And Preferencing – The White House

It is being reported that President Trump has rescinded Executive Order 11,246, which has long required “affirmative action” programs for companies doing contract work with the federal government. 

It really depends on states coordinating a legal resistance, a few upsets in the courts, courts following existing laws and precedent, whether a handful of republicans defect on any particular issue coming up for a vote, whether Dems can block in the senate. Do that and the damage will be severe but might be 4 years in duration. Of course some problems like climate are time sensitive so 4 years really matters.

States will be up to no good too. Texas leg session is going to be a bloodbath. Florida is accelerating, and the rank and file conservative states are likely to have FOMO and accelerate as well. State outcomes are on a state by state basis but suffice it to say the balkanization of the US is about to move into late stage. 

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12 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I don’t think public diplomacy would be part of this as it’s a different type of funding than development aided. PEPFAR, food aid, health, absolutely.  But we pulled out of the WHO. 

PD, yeah, its fucked. Or will be replaced with appointees who push the America First agenda.

WHO is not part of PEPFAR that much. A shit ton of those task orders were awarded to oversight contractors to do them. Chemonics, DAI, etc. The international funding to WHO is gone. But these were US programs. I agree with Rubio during his confimation about how the US does not demonstrate what we do provide. Drive in a messed up country, so not really EU, and you will see Funded by Japan, Funded by China, etc. Those programs did a lot of good and provided some good will where we want/need.

So this decision fucks the people it helps, the companies that implement, the countries that need it, and the US Farmers who produce the food aid. Oh, and a shit ton of Church groups are going to be PISSSED. World Vision, etc. Ain't no way their congregations will be able to provide the missing funds. That means PAIN for a segment of trumpkins. THat is the only thing here that makes me smile.

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At urgent care, man walks in refuses to fill out the forms, asked about gender identity - DID YOU WATCH THE NEWS?! I’M A MAN, A MALE, I’M SO SICK OF THIS SHIT. Refuses to answer the race and ethnicity questions. Just an entitled piece of shit. Can’t even fucking fill out a form to sign in to see a helper. 

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2 minutes ago, troph said:

At urgent care, man walks in refuses to fill out the forms, asked about gender identity - DID YOU WATCH THE NEWS?! I’M A MAN, A MALE, I’M SO SICK OF THIS SHIT. Refuses to answer the race and ethnicity questions. Just an entitled piece of shit. Can’t even fucking fill out a form to sign in to see a helper. 

Since urgent care isn’t covered by EMTALA, they should tell Mr. Snowflake to get bent and GTFO.

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Just now, Pig Bellmont said:

So why did he pardon the Silk Road guy?

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/01/21/trump-pardons-silk-road-ross-ulbricht-.html
 

I thought he was saying we should kill drug traffickers- is that only for brown ones?

 

 

Well, yeah, but you see, the silk road guy had quite a collection of bitcoin.  Assuming he still has access to them, I'm guessing there will be a nice chunk of change headed to the Trump Presidential Library fund.

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

She, literally, pleaded for him to be what Christ preached and he, of course, rips her and takes the opposite position.  You know the opposite of what Christ said Christians should do.  And all the "Christians" who support him will 100% back what he says.

@Frank Drebin Christians love to live their lives directly opposing Christian ideals. 

That wasn't a prayer or sermon, that was a political speech. But the biggest red flag to me was absolutely no mention of Christ. God is portrayed as this distant being and people are supposed to be leftist social activists in order to be 'good'. Those are the words of a false prophet that has no personal relationship with Christ. Unfortunately there are many American churches filled with those types. Lost people.

Entirely predictable "prayer" service with a woman bishop in the Episcopalian "church".

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7 minutes ago, royiv said:

Since urgent care isn’t covered by EMTALA, they should tell Mr. Snowflake to get bent and GTFO.

For the sake of the front desk staff I waited till stormed out thinking it was a waste of time to see a doctor - hadn’t eaten in 2 days - dehydrated and showing serious symptoms. Walked out. I called buck a fucking asshole out loud to the remaining patients and the staff.

 

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It's like he stopped mentally growing as a bully in 3rd grade. He uses the same language over and over with anything he dislikes. "Nasty, not smart, boring, not very good at her job, owes an apology, ungracious." He believes power is in fear and how much you have in your checking account. I can't call him my President because he's not at all presidential - he gives no joy or hope. He's not uplifting, he's just a hateful, immature old man and I have less than zero respect for him. He's vapor.

This is the country that had a game show about being smarter than 5th graders. Why is this surprising?
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11 minutes ago, troph said:

For the sake of the front desk staff I waited till stormed out thinking it was a waste of time to see a doctor - hadn’t eaten in 2 days - dehydrated and showing serious symptoms. Walked out. I called buck a fucking asshole out loud to the remaining patients and the staff.

 

Hope you feel better quickly. I know the past six months have been a slog for you.

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26 minutes ago, troph said:

Of course some problems like climate are time sensitive so 4 years really matters.

Yep.  Part of my wellness plan over the next decade is to focus on the existential threats, and climate is the main one. 

I've believed for the past couple of decades that the first party to fully embrace economic affirmative action and oppose all other forms of affirmative action would get a big electoral advantage.  I think the Dems need to pivot to that now -- accept the attacks on affirmative action and diversity but only with the proviso that we are going to practice economic affirmative action.  The blanket "protected class" language is going to be useful only in individual discrimination lawsuits from now on.

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39 minutes ago, troph said:

At urgent care, man walks in refuses to fill out the forms, asked about gender identity - DID YOU WATCH THE NEWS?! I’M A MAN, A MALE, I’M SO SICK OF THIS SHIT. Refuses to answer the race and ethnicity questions. Just an entitled piece of shit. Can’t even fucking fill out a form to sign in to see a helper. 

Texas hospitals now have to ask about citizenship. More than a few MAGA types start to rant that it's none of the hospital's business and can't they see that they're white. Then they're reminded that this was a recent legal requirement from Governor Greg Abbott and then they proudly state that they're an American citizen.

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12 hours ago, DixonHur said:

But isn't this true of any social arrangement?

The libertarian concept I took from the above definition doesn't preclude taxation ...

Anyway, I understand the argument of simplistic, but I think all systems of government and economics suffer from the same fate when introduced to human nature.  I'd just like a system where the government is designed to take care of the citizens basic needs but no laws governing morality that doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights.  IE murder, theft, etc.

To the bolded, yes and no.

Yes, all systems of government have to deal with and overcome the issues created by human nature.  Those that ACKNOWLEDGE human nature, and created mechanisms that allow for it in managed form (e.g., greed is a natural impulse, so we allow people to pursue full-on naked capitalist enterprises.....but we don't allow them to commit fraud, to steal, etc.) are the most successful and ultimately beneficial.

Note that perfection and hitting the bullseye is impossible.  And even a relatively good system (e.g., the American one) can suffer from fundamental failings (like the one at our inception: a "capitalist" system built in large part on slave labor, or the one we're dealing with right now: oligarchical capture of the state).  But that puts such a liberal system in the bucket of "shitty...but still better than all the others."

11 hours ago, DixonHur said:

I don't know.  I don't dislike government.  In fact I think government has a vital role in setting the rules of the game.  That said, I think that governments tend to overstep that role.  

Perfect world: 

  • Government provides common defense ...not "national interests", but legit, if we face aggression at home, we defend ourselves.
  • Government provides infrastructure (inclusive of utilities)
  • Government provides healthcare
  • Government provides education
  • Government provides regulatory environment
  • Government protects the borders and issues visas
  • Government sets tax rates
  • Government sets basic laws that 99% of sane people can agree on (IE no killing other people, no stealing from people, No diddling kids, etc)

Then...

  • Government stays the fuck out of my life

 

Yeah, again, you're describing a pretty common flavor of classical liberalism.  The hell of it is, if you float these concepts to the American people, you'd get broad majority support.  But, because a huge chunk of the people have been distracted by the shiny object of bullshit hotbutton issues ("DON'T BE WOKE!"), they reflexively OPPOSE these things and/or vote enthusiastically for people who have promised to prevent/destroy these things.

We just elected a regime that wants to invade and seize Greenland because we are "the apex predator."  And a lot of those votes were because they supposedly wanted a regime that "keeps us out of foreign wars."  See the inherent stupidity?  Oh, and those same people?  Most of them would characterize themselves as libertarian given the opportunity.  Just fucking stupid.

Our problem, and our ultimate failure, will be because we are too stupid to continue as a functioning Republic.  It was probably inevitable, eventually.

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42 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

That wasn't a prayer or sermon, that was a political speech. But the biggest red flag to me was absolutely no mention of Christ. God is portrayed as this distant being and people are supposed to be leftist social activists in order to be 'good'. Those are the words of a false prophet that has no personal relationship with Christ. Unfortunately there are many American churches filled with those types. Lost people.

Entirely predictable "prayer" service with a woman bishop in the Episcopalian "church".

This stupid twat is as far from being a Christian as one can get....except for his orange god. 

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1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

So why did he pardon the Silk Road guy?

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/01/21/trump-pardons-silk-road-ross-ulbricht-.html
 

I thought he was saying we should kill drug traffickers- is that only for brown ones?

 

non white drug dealers 

white drug dealers are entrepreneurs 

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