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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't think a lot of these EOs are going to do jack shit for the actual problems we face as a country. 

I mean are they good? No. Do they really do anything other than deplpy bully tactics and confirm DJT as who we already knew he was? Also no. 

Everything so far has been a nothing burger just like Trump term 1, he's incompetent and ineffective, as long as a crisis doesn't develop like covid it'll largely just be a bunch of grift and nothing getting done. 

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I must admire their strategy of massive attack at lightning speed. 
As with Trump's first administration which just kept flooding us with lies and damage which the media and electorate could not keep up, this is a move to overwhelm with a dark awe. Better count on confusion than seek forgiveness. Trump has always done the former and never the latter.
Any casual supporters of mere tolerance of those not white, publicly heterosexual, and sexually non-binary will move on in a few weeks if most of them haven't already. Same with witchdoctors replacing science, the rapid decline of goodwill between the US and other countries, and...oh, the seizure of government! 
Every EO is accomplished upon signature in the dull minds of his followers. "He made a exa-cutive order ta stop that inflation. Biden didn't do that!" 
Game, set, match.

Who’d have thunk Steven Miller was a fan of blitzkrieg?
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Be careful of what you tolerate. This is bigger than some website. They are cleansing the government of things they hate and minimizing who they’re willing to represent. 

1000% this. Authoritarianism comes by a million tiny steps. First they came for the trade unionists….
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4 minutes ago, immamac said:

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't think a lot of these EOs are going to do jack shit for the actual problems we face as a country. 

I mean are they good? No. Do they really do anything other than deplpy bully tactics and confirm DJT as who we already knew he was? Also no. 

Everything so far has been a nothing burger just like Trump term 1, he's incompetent and ineffective, as long as a crisis doesn't develop like covid it'll largely just be a bunch of grift and nothing getting done. 

I disagree to the extent that this is the end of even lip service to federal characteristic based affirmative action (other than disability).  This has a tremendous upside despite the potential short-term pain, primarily by allowing the left to avoid an increasingly difficult argument.  And to focus on color blind economic disparities.  

I'm not saying there the legacy of discrimination isn't with us.  I'm saying that the debate, as structured around affirmative action and reparations is unwinnable.  

If the Left had taken the lead on this - a similar executive order with an economic-based replacement -- over the last two decades they could have accomplished something, and really solidified their political appeal, just like they could have with tailored solutions to immigration and climate change.  

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22 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:


1000% this. Authoritarianism comes by a million tiny steps. First they came for the trade unionists….

It takes a wide lens to view the panorama of hate.

I mean, the point about time and development (website) is rational---but then again, it's a little gaslighty to minimize it given the stretch of 2016-2020 actions don't you think?

There is an EO (day one or two) that gives Homeland Security rather vague and loose options when coordinating with state and individual law enforcement agencies to act as federal immigration officers. "Just pull 'em over and we got your back!"

I disagree with immamac that the EOs are all performative nonsense. Some, sure. But others seem like test balloons.

One thing I do agree on is the grift and of course, there is an EO for that:

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Direct Homeland Security to immediately devote resources and secure contractors “to construct, operate, control, or use facilities to detain removable aliens.”

Which is why the EO changing the directives for equal opportunity had to be signed.

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44 minutes ago, immamac said:

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't think a lot of these EOs are going to do jack shit for the actual problems we face as a country. 

I mean are they good? No. Do they really do anything other than deplpy bully tactics and confirm DJT as who we already knew he was? Also no. 

Everything so far has been a nothing burger just like Trump term 1, he's incompetent and ineffective, as long as a crisis doesn't develop like covid it'll largely just be a bunch of grift and nothing getting done. 

I hope that's true... but I think the tangible real-world outcome is just sowing confusion and generally making life harder for people. Even if it doesn't have the targeted intentions. 

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1 minute ago, YChang said:

I hope that's true... but I think the tangible real-world outcome is just sowing confusion and generally making life harder for people. Even if it doesn't have the targeted intentions. 

It's about distracting the peasantry while Republicans siphon wealth upward.

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12 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

It's about distracting the peasantry while Republicans siphon wealth upward.

This is where you are wrong. They've opened the door for anyone to siphon. If you keep playing by the old rules then yeah you are fucked. 

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't think a lot of these EOs are going to do jack shit for the actual problems we face as a country. 

I mean are they good? No. Do they really do anything other than deplpy bully tactics and confirm DJT as who we already knew he was? Also no. 

Everything so far has been a nothing burger just like Trump term 1, he's incompetent and ineffective, as long as a crisis doesn't develop like covid it'll largely just be a bunch of grift and nothing getting done. 

His tariffs will kill our economy and cause food crises - and his actions regarding NIH and VA will lead to large disease upticks. The DEI stuff has huge, sweeping changes for any business who has a governmental contract and will prevent them from doing many things. 

It's almost like, and hear me out here, Donald Trump doesn't actually care about Americans and is in this for himself, his family, and the trolls he associates with directly. Crazy thought, I know! 

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7 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

His tariffs will kill our economy and cause food crises - and his actions regarding NIH and VA will lead to large disease upticks. The DEI stuff has huge, sweeping changes for any business who has a governmental contract and will prevent them from doing many things. 

It's almost like, and hear me out here, Donald Trump doesn't actually care about Americans and is in this for himself, his family, and the trolls he associates with directly. Crazy thought, I know! 

Yes but there won't be any data from trusted sources to tell us about it.  Just a feckless media that says, "Seems like things are worse" and then cries of "Fake *cough, hack, wheeze* news!" from the right.

7 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Its fucking insane to me that the Gulf of America thing is real. 10 years ago, it would have been laughable to the point of someone getting kicked out of office

Yet here we are.  'mericuh!

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't think a lot of these EOs are going to do jack shit for the actual problems we face as a country. 

I mean are they good? No. Do they really do anything other than deplpy bully tactics and confirm DJT as who we already knew he was? Also no. 

Everything so far has been a nothing burger just like Trump term 1, he's incompetent and ineffective, as long as a crisis doesn't develop like covid it'll largely just be a bunch of grift and nothing getting done. 

...if we're lucky 🤞

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28 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

His tariffs will kill our economy and cause food crises

I've been thinking about what a 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico and what it would do to the auto industry.  The price of new and used cars is going to rise, along with the price of parts.  New cars will be plentiful, but pricy.

If half of the US automotive stuff is made outside the US and half is made inside, it's reasonable to think we may see a 12-13% rise in prices.

Today, the average US car costs around $48,000, so we could see average car prices approaching $54,000 by the end of the year because of tariffs.

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1 minute ago, Texas Jeff said:

I've been thinking about a 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico and what it would do to the auto industry.  The price of new and used cars is going to rise, along with the price of parts.  New cars will be plentiful, but pricy.

If half of the US automotive stuff is made outside the US and half is made inside, it's reasonable to think we may see a 12-13% rise in prices.

Today, the average US car costs around $48,000, so we could see average car prices approaching $54,000 by the end of the year because of tariffs.

I needed to buy a car next August, so I went ahead and bought it last month because of this possibility.

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7 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

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Blah blah blah.

"How did deadly, violent, horrific fascism take total power in places like Italy and Germany?  This is how.  Exactly this way."

We're being called alarmist because we don't yet have mass graves.  Pointing out "yeah....the graves come late in the game.  Right now, they're doing everything - literally every single thing - that ends up leading to those graves" draws only "pshaw, you're crazy."  What the actual fuck?  There's a dude with matches, cans of gasoline, wearing a shirt that says "I'm an arsonist", running towards our house yelling "I'm going to fucking burn your house down," and those of us who say "hey....we should stop that crazy arsonist" are being told to STFU, nobody's going to burn anything down.

I hate this timeline, I hate my fellow human beings.  All I have left is to laugh at those who mock us as they too are consumed in the flames they helped ignite.

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12 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

I've been thinking about what a 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico and what it would do to the auto industry.  The price of new and used cars is going to rise, along with the price of parts.  New cars will be plentiful, but pricy.

If half of the US automotive stuff is made outside the US and half is made inside, it's reasonable to think we may see a 12-13% rise in prices.

Today, the average US car costs around $48,000, so we could see average car prices approaching $54,000 by the end of the year because of tariffs.

It’s going to lead to fairly drastic immediate rises in construction (and material) costs and fruit prices. 

But the insurrectionists are free so it’s worth it! 

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27 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Its fucking insane to me that the Gulf of America thing is real. 10 years ago, it would have been laughable to the point of someone getting kicked out of office

It’s a distraction.

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there is no doubt that the President now has full control over the prosecutorial discretion of the DOJ and is immune from all criminal conduct for it - just as John Roberts wanted. This is Roberts’ legacy and this is what people voted for. 

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Symbols matter

 

2 hours ago, Constant said:

Be careful of what you tolerate. This is bigger than some website. They are cleansing the government of things they hate and minimizing who they’re willing to represent. 

If people are going to focus on missing WH web pages, they need to take a break. Indirectly the President can do whatever they want with the WH website. No court is going to stop them. Focus on what matters not getting distracted by every slight.

But you're welcome to get triggered by every tweet and news story if you want.

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't think a lot of these EOs are going to do jack shit for the actual problems we face as a country. 

I mean are they good? No. Do they really do anything other than deplpy bully tactics and confirm DJT as who we already knew he was? Also no. 

Everything so far has been a nothing burger just like Trump term 1, he's incompetent and ineffective, as long as a crisis doesn't develop like covid it'll largely just be a bunch of grift and nothing getting done. 

They do a lot of damage in a lot of ways and will do things for the actual problems we face as a country (but not in a good way):  

  • Removing restrictions and increasing permitting on O&G development on public lands
  • Kneecapping wind energy by limiting future development on public lands (while wind energy is trending cheaper than coal, e.g.)
  • Giving Leon an unfair advantage over his competitors shifting into the EV market by attempting to impound Congressionally appropriated tax credits and incentives to the legacy auto industry (as well as start-ups).
  • Creating uncertainty generally across all sorts of industries and businesses by undoing years of regulatory programs (this goes both ways, BTW)
  • Generally attempting to impose by executive FIAT matters exclusively within the power of the legislature.
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50 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

I've been thinking about what a 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico and what it would do to the auto industry.  The price of new and used cars is going to rise, along with the price of parts.  New cars will be plentiful, but pricy.

If half of the US automotive stuff is made outside the US and half is made inside, it's reasonable to think we may see a 12-13% rise in prices.

Today, the average US car costs around $48,000, so we could see average car prices approaching $54,000 by the end of the year because of tariffs.

Now imagine the price of homes rising as well due to increased costs of lumber from Canada. That isn’t even accounting for the likely labor shortage. If you thought homes were overpriced now…oh boy.

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29 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

teamdotard thinks they can eradicated the next pandemic by stopping the dissemination of news of it's existence

The scary part is that I'm not entirely sure he's wrong.

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I have very good college friends going back and forth on social media about how refreshing it is that we have somebody back in office who can answer questions from the press while signing EO’s at the same time since there’s no way Biden could do that.

Never mind that the EO’s are for things like renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America and making KFC fried chicken the US national bird while answering questions about his meme crypto-coin and wondering why CA officials didn’t think of turning on the yuge water spigot to allow water to flow to LA to put out the fires.

It’s only been a week and I’m losing my ever-loving sanity.

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1 hour ago, The Ace of Aces said:

His tariffs will kill our economy and cause food crises - and his actions regarding NIH and VA will lead to large disease upticks. The DEI stuff has huge, sweeping changes for any business who has a governmental contract and will prevent them from doing many things. 

It's almost like, and hear me out here, Donald Trump doesn't actually care about Americans and is in this for himself, his family, and the trolls he associates with directly. Crazy thought, I know! 

Don't forget removing all ethics requirements for government officials (what little we did have).

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3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I have very good college friends going back and forth on social media about how refreshing it is that we have somebody back in office who can answer questions from the press while signing EO’s at the same time since there’s no way Biden could do that.

Never mind that the EO’s are for things like renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America and making KFC fried chicken the US national bird while answering questions about his meme crypto-coin and wondering why CA officials didn’t think of turning on the yuge water spigot to allow water to flow to LA to put out the fires.

It’s only been a week and I’m losing my ever-loving sanity.

You need new friends.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

 

If people are going to focus on missing WH web pages, they need to take a break. Indirectly the President can do whatever they want with the WH website. No court is going to stop them. Focus on what matters not getting distracted by every slight.

But you're welcome to get triggered by every tweet and news story if you want.

Nobody is focusing on it and no one is triggered. Fucking Christ, it was just something that was pointed out. And yes it matters but of course there are much bigger issues to worry about

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1 minute ago, Ted Lange said:

 

But remember, the most important thing is that we stop windmill cancer.

These clearly cause cancer:

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These, however, are the cleanest thing ever, and actually make the air better and don't make anyone sick at all:

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Up is down, bad is good, all that shit.  Dumbest.  Fucking.  Timeline.

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Blah blah blah.
"How did deadly, violent, horrific fascism take total power in places like Italy and Germany?  This is how.  Exactly this way."
We're being called alarmist because we don't yet have mass graves.  Pointing out "yeah....the graves come late in the game.  Right now, they're doing everything - literally every single thing - that ends up leading to those graves" draws only "pshaw, you're crazy."  What the actual fuck?  There's a dude with matches, cans of gasoline, wearing a shirt that says "I'm an arsonist", running towards our house yelling "I'm going to fucking burn your house down," and those of us who say "hey....we should stop that crazy arsonist" are being told to STFU, nobody's going to burn anything down.
I hate this timeline, I hate my fellow human beings.  All I have left is to laugh at those who mock us as they too are consumed in the flames they helped ignite.

Remember it is really all the Democratic Party’s fault to nominating Hillary Clinton. I mean, we had to vote for a conman, sex offender, felon, because reasons.
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