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19 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

A bit more clarity on the refugee. EO.

1- More than just afghans.

2- Afghans in transit stuck at US sponsored sites

3- If in the US can continue to receive benefits.

4- SIV (Afghan allies) are exempt.

This is per CNN. Highlights. URL included so Ana does not have a conniption.

Approximately 10,000 refugees had travel booked, which is now canceled, according to a source familiar with the data. A breakdown by country was not immediately available, but refugees generally come from a range of countries, including Afghanistan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Venezuela, Syria and Burma.

The cancellations could be particularly troubling for refugees whose medical exams or security checks, for example, are on the cusp of expiring. The memo also states that case processing is suspended, effectively shuttering the program.

“It is not clear what is going to happen to those individuals,” the official said. “They could be stuck there, we don’t know for how long.”

There are more than 1,000 Afghan refugees in Doha, the official said, and several thousand, up to as many as 10,000, in Pakistan. But there are other Afghan refugees in “many, many countries around the world … whose cases will now just be stopped,” the official said.

Special Immigrant Visa holders, which includes those who worked for the US abroad, are exempt. They can travel to the United States, according to the memo. Those refugees who are already in the United States can also continue to receive services.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/22/politics/refugee-flights-canceled/index.html

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Of those 10000 immigrants ...

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That includes more than 1,600 Afghans who assisted America’s war effort, as well as relatives of active-duty U.S. military personnel.

https://apnews.com/article/refugees-flights-trump-immigration-border-resettlement-33ebaa34bc4d0c069a22ee7aa5f8ff6d

There is no place in hell hot enough ...

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11 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

WUT

 

Yeah he also called out OPEC, saying they need to lower the price of oil and that if they do, inflation will be conquered and the Ukraine War will end ... when he's the one who brokered the2020 deal with OPEC & Putin to limit production and raise the price of oil in the first place. When added to the already-awful economic conditions brought about by COVID, Trump's oil price increase well and truly got the inflation murderball rolling. When you look at the oil and inflation charts, inflation tracks right along with the oil price rise that was the result of that Trump - Putin - Bin Salman deal Trump pushed specifically to raise the price of oil.

Then it was time for Q&A and in typical Trump fashion, he rambled all over the place & didn't even attempt to answer the questions. Just told random stories that had little or nothing at all to do with the actual questions.

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10 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Credit where credit is due. Blind squirrel and all that. 

But if dumbshits like you truly have their finger on the pulse of America, we're all fucked anyway. So congrats.

It's difficult for me to get my head around how to even begin to process the staggering, colossal level of irony associated with Helo calling out other posters over errant predictions. Nostradumbass strikes again.

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7 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

f the rules about changing the constitution ....

Republican Congressman Andy Ogles has drafted a constitutional amendment to allow Donald Trump to be president for a third term.

 

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Article on CNBC, at the end of discussed other was to possibly extend Trump to a third term

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/23/trump-third-term-amendment-constitution-ogles.html

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Other ways to stay in power

Amending the Constitution is not the only way that Trump could stay in power after his current term ends.

“Though the 22nd Amendment prohibits Trump from being elected president again, it does not prohibit him from serving as president beyond Jan. 20, 2029,” wrote Philip Klinkner, a professor of government at Hamilton College, in a recent article in The Conversation.

“The reason for this is that the 22nd Amendment only prohibits someone from being ‘elected’ more than twice,” Klinker wrote. “It says nothing about someone becoming president in some other way than being elected to the office.”

Klinker wrote that one hypothetical scenario would be for Trump to run for vice president in 2028, and have Vice President JD Vance run at the top of the ticket, for president.

“If elected, Vance could then resign, making Trump president again,” Klinker wrote. “But Vance would not even have to resign in order for a Vice President Trump to exercise the power of the presidency.

 

The 25th Amendment to the Constitution states that if a president declares that ‘he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of the office … such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.’ ”

 

Another scenario Klinker imagined is for Trump to encourage a family member to run for, and win, the White House. Once elected, they would serve as little more than a figurehead president, while Trump made the key decisions.

Truthfully, I thought this dumbfuckery deserved a separate thread because it throws away the constitution as we know it. But I'll let this play out, before throwing up and joining a resistance movement.

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15 hours ago, cmontexas said:

While the GOP is America's abusive stepfather, the Dems are the enabling mother who feels bad but won't leave him and has his dinner on the table every night

That would be a good analogy if divorces happened every four years and sometimes the wife wins her freedom and sometimes she’s forced to remarry her abusive spouse. 

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This week has to be icing on the cake of the most perfectly executed grift of all time at this point. Create a bunch of social justice crises to capture a certain subsect of the US population, get elected, sign a bunch of EO’s and then tell them how much you have done, enrich yourself along the way, and go into midterms patting yourself on the back for all that has been accomplished with your proclamations. It’s not like the Dems are going to post ads saying wait a second, there are still brown people at Home Depot, Haitians in Ohio, trans/gay people among us, etc. They are just hoping egg prices stay up so they can use that at this point.

Half the country is celebrating like the US is fixed and they can’t wait to go on vacation to the Gulf of America and the Dems aren’t going to be willing to go low enough to explain the grift to them. The idiots have been enthralled with the sideshow at the circus while getting fleeced all along the way.

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TN has to have the dumbest bunch of elected officials of any state at this point. I don’t know what it is about Middle/East TN specifically, but they are a special group of idiots.

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TN has to have the dumbest bunch of elected officials of any state at this point. I don’t know what it is about Middle/East TN specifically, but they are a special group of idiots.

Man, it’s a race to the bottom in the former Confederacy. AL, GA and TX all give TN a run for their money. I’d throw in AR, MS and LA, but I’m not sure if they have running water there yet, so I can’t fault them as much for living in the 1860s.
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23 minutes ago, Brew said:

TN has to have the dumbest bunch of elected officials of any state at this point. I don’t know what it is about Middle/East TN specifically, but they are a special group of idiots.

Oklahoma would like a word.

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And the next grift begins, make a bunch of noise about the 22nd knowing it will not be changed, attack the legislature for not changing it over the next 3 years, run him as a VP on a ticket with a figurehead top of the ticket, and the sideshow continues.

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9 minutes ago, Brew said:

And the next grift begins, make a bunch of noise about the 22nd knowing it will not be changed, attack the legislature for not changing it over the next 3 years, run him as a VP on a ticket with a figurehead top of the ticket, and the sideshow continues.

According to the 12th Amendment, he's ineligible to be VP.

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6 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

Article on CNBC, at the end of discussed other was to possibly extend Trump to a third term

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/23/trump-third-term-amendment-constitution-ogles.html

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Other ways to stay in power

Amending the Constitution is not the only way that Trump could stay in power after his current term ends.

“Though the 22nd Amendment prohibits Trump from being elected president again, it does not prohibit him from serving as president beyond Jan. 20, 2029,” wrote Philip Klinkner, a professor of government at Hamilton College, in a recent article in The Conversation.

“The reason for this is that the 22nd Amendment only prohibits someone from being ‘elected’ more than twice,” Klinker wrote. “It says nothing about someone becoming president in some other way than being elected to the office.”

Klinker wrote that one hypothetical scenario would be for Trump to run for vice president in 2028, and have Vice President JD Vance run at the top of the ticket, for president.

“If elected, Vance could then resign, making Trump president again,” Klinker wrote. “But Vance would not even have to resign in order for a Vice President Trump to exercise the power of the presidency.

 

The 25th Amendment to the Constitution states that if a president declares that ‘he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of the office … such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.’ ”

 

Another scenario Klinker imagined is for Trump to encourage a family member to run for, and win, the White House. Once elected, they would serve as little more than a figurehead president, while Trump made the key decisions.

Truthfully, I thought this dumbfuckery deserved a separate thread because it throws away the constitution as we know it. But I'll let this play out, before throwing up and joining a resistance movement.

I thought the third term was a given. Trump said we wouldn’t even have elections anymore during his campaign. I mean it’s not even a third term if the second term never ends.

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3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

According to the 12th Amendment, he's ineligible to run for VP.

Based on the text of the 22nd Amendment, I think most surly lawyers could argue that the terms have to be consecutive.

The terms shall be capped at two, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be two. Three shalt thou not count, neither count thou one, excepting that thou then proceed to two. Four is right out. Once the number two, being the second number, be reached, then the cap is reached.

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1 minute ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

The terms shall be capped at two, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be two. Three shalt thou not count, neither count thou one, excepting that thou then proceed to two. Four is right out. Once the number two, being the second number, be reached, then the cap is reached.

And four terms is right out

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1 hour ago, Brew said:

This week has to be icing on the cake of the most perfectly executed grift of all time at this point. Create a bunch of social justice crises to capture a certain subsect of the US population, get elected, sign a bunch of EO’s and then tell them how much you have done, enrich yourself along the way, and go into midterms patting yourself on the back for all that has been accomplished with your proclamations. It’s not like the Dems are going to post ads saying wait a second, there are still brown people at Home Depot, Haitians in Ohio, trans/gay people among us, etc. They are just hoping egg prices stay up so they can use that at this point.

Half the country is celebrating like the US is fixed and they can’t wait to go on vacation to the Gulf of America and the Dems aren’t going to be willing to go low enough to explain the grift to them. The idiots have been enthralled with the sideshow at the circus while getting fleeced all along the way.

Lol. The Dems can't explain the grift in a way that makes news coverage, much less on the networks the idiots watch, for half the country to even SEE. Much less UNDERSTAND. 

Just accept we're broken. I already think about the ways I teach my kid about America just being a place his parents had to live. 

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59 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:


Man, it’s a race to the bottom in the former Confederacy. AL, GA and TX all give TN a run for their money. I’d throw in AR, MS and LA, but I’m not sure if they have running water there yet, so I can’t fault them as much for living in the 1860s.

I don’t know, if we’re doing a draft Burchett, Ogles, and Blackburn have to be near the top of the list federally and I can’t imagine Faison, Sexton, and their bunch wouldn’t be high up the state draft list.

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7 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

Article on CNBC, at the end of discussed other was to possibly extend Trump to a third term

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/23/trump-third-term-amendment-constitution-ogles.html

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Another scenario Klinker imagined is for Trump to encourage a family member to run for, and win, the White House. Once elected, they would serve as little more than a figurehead president, while Trump made the key decisions.

Truthfully, I thought this dumbfuckery deserved a separate thread because it throws away the constitution as we know it. But I'll let this play out, before throwing up and joining a resistance movement.

That scenario is the one I posted before -- the Ma and Pa Ferguson approach - "vote for the Ma, get the Pa!"  Vote for Don Jr, and Don Jr. openly says "don't worry, my dad will be the real president.  I'll just be his instrument.  FOUR MORE YEARS!  FOUR MORE YEARS!"

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18 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Democrats better be preparing to hammer the shit out of trump and Republicans for causing it if it happens, even though it would have been their actions from 2017 to 2021 that would be culpable not now. But "we the people" are far too gullible and ignorant to understand any of that. 

Maybe it's too early in the day for me, so I could be misunderstanding you. That would also be when Trump was in control. 

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All that news about the DOD planes taking Guatemalans back is interesting. I am watching the Guatemalan press to see if they show a C-17 there. If it lands, they will.

Meanwhile there is only 1 flight from El Paso to Guatemala direct showing on Flight Radar. it is an airbus and this is not a usual route for it.

Fun times.

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5 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

Maybe it's too early in the day for me, so I could be misunderstanding you. That would also be when Trump was in control. 

Yes, it means the culpability trump has of a recession hits this year would be from his actions then, but Democrats should hammer him like he caused it with his stupidity now. Because Americans are too stupid to realize the truth. Churn out as much propaganda as possible demonizing him and republicans for burning down the economy with their stupidity and corruption. 

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5 minutes ago, 27-25 said:

Did anyone have getting rid of FEMA on their bingo card?

 

Yes. The jackass talked about it before the election. And the stupids in Florida, NC, OK, Texas, Missouri, Louisiana, and other red states that get regularly with natural disasters still voted for him. 

At this point, why would states send in money to the Fed? If all benefit and relief programs are cut, why send them any money at all? Keep it to attempt to pay for your own disasters 

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11 minutes ago, 27-25 said:

Did anyone have getting rid of FEMA on their bingo card?

 

This is great. Florida as a State will cease to exist. Only inhabitants will be tent campers on the beach. Sign me up.

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FEMA is there to coordinate and oversee the federal response and money. Cutting it out doesn’t mean the federal benefits go away.  It means the money goes right to these red-state governors to misdirect and misuse.  The point is to reduce oversight and accountability. 

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25 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

All that news about the DOD planes taking Guatemalans back is interesting. I am watching the Guatemalan press to see if they show a C-17 there. If it lands, they will.

Meanwhile there is only 1 flight from El Paso to Guatemala direct showing on Flight Radar. it is an airbus and this is not a usual route for it.

Fun times.

CBS reports. Um, this is way the cargo load of a C-17. Why not just use Spirit Airlines like they used to? And they only lost two people. Yay?

"Meanwhile, a defense official said there were two flights overnight. Both went to Guatemala, according to two sources, and carried 81 deportees. However, a Guatemalan official said 79 Guatemalans had been returned, 31 women and 48 men. 

Leavitt stated, "The Trump Administration also deported hundreds of illegal immigrant criminals via military aircraft. The largest massive deportation operation in history is well underway."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hundreds-illegal-immigrant-criminals-arrested-more-flown-from-us-military-white-house-says/

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