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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

His unemployment numbers are gonna go to shit.

This isn’t a buyout. You can check the other thread for more, but employees that accept remain on payroll, get paid on a regular basis, and either keep teleworking or move to admin leave.  It’s not even clear if all agencies will let employees accept, which jobs are exempt, and if employees can even take other jobs before 30 September.  And if you are moved to admin leave you likely take a pay cut in the form of no agency matching to the  government version of a 401k. 

 I’d expect a pretty low uptake nearly only from people planning to leave anyway or retire.  It’s not even as good as voluntary early retirement. 

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Federal Employees given option to resign with up to 8 months pay. So many questions.....
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnvqe3le3z4o
President Donald Trump has offered buyout packages to almost all federal employees, a major move designed to shrink and reform the US government.
In an email sent on Tuesday, his administration told workers they had to decide by 6 February whether they wanted to be part of a "deferred resignation" programme.
If they agree by then to quit in September, the message said, they would receive about eight months of salary as a severance package.
The Trump administration expects up to 10% of employees to accept the offer - which equates to about 200,000 of the more than two million people who work for the federal government, according to the BBC's US partner CBS News.
Senior Trump officials told US media that the buyouts could save the government up to $100bn (£80bn).

He can’t do that. Congress controls the purse (in theory). Any buyouts have to come from them (in theory). Trump will not pay anyone that quits (not theory).
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10 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

if milry was smart, he'd leave the country. trump wants him to rot in a cell 

Did he get a pardon?  I've forgotten already.

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He can’t do that. Congress controls the purse (in theory). Any buyouts have to come from them (in theory). Trump will not pay anyone that quits (not theory).

Better get that money up front!

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38 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Federal Employees given option to resign with up to 8 months pay. So many questions.....

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnvqe3le3z4o

President Donald Trump has offered buyout packages to almost all federal employees, a major move designed to shrink and reform the US government.

In an email sent on Tuesday, his administration told workers they had to decide by 6 February whether they wanted to be part of a "deferred resignation" programme.

If they agree by then to quit in September, the message said, they would receive about eight months of salary as a severance package.

The Trump administration expects up to 10% of employees to accept the offer - which equates to about 200,000 of the more than two million people who work for the federal government, according to the BBC's US partner CBS News.

Senior Trump officials told US media that the buyouts could save the government up to $100bn (£80bn).

Media rooms should be barred from repeating Trump press releases without a basic fact-check

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2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

This isn’t a buyout. You can check the other thread for more, but employees that accept remain on payroll, get paid on a regular basis, and either keep teleworking or move to admin leave.  It’s not even clear if all agencies will let employees accept, which jobs are exempt, and if employees can even take other jobs before 30 September.  And if you are moved to admin leave you likely take a pay cut in the form of no agency matching to the  government version of a 401k. 

 I’d expect a pretty low uptake nearly only from people planning to leave anyway or retire.  It’s not even as good as voluntary early retirement. 

I think it’s also intended to screw them out of their retirement/pension benefits 

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9 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Did he get a pardon?  I've forgotten already.

Better get that money up front!

 

yes, not sure how far back it goes though. the orange dumb ass has said in the past he should be executed.

the two bootlickers desantis or abbott could try to dig up state charges ? 

they're going to investigate him for 'undermining the chain of command' to remove stars. wouldn't be shocked if the run his wife kids through a fine tooth comb

does a general pardon cover treason ? they'll be digging up whatever they can find 

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NYTimes put together a list (organized by department) of the approximately 2,600 programs mentioned in the funding freeze. It's a pretty astonishing list. I recommend doing some keyword searches on things to see the impact, such as rural, economic, academic, housing, veterans, etc. Some of the dollar amounts attached to the programs are paltry; others climb up into the $billions.

Hopefully, this gifted link works because I ain't copy/pasting all of this.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/01/28/upshot/federal-programs-funding-trump-omb.html?unlocked_article_code=1.s04.qNfh.kv-HCPikQ7up&smid=url-share

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31 minutes ago, bolverk said:

NYTimes put together a list (organized by department) of the approximately 2,600 programs mentioned in the funding freeze. It's a pretty astonishing list. I recommend doing some keyword searches on things to see the impact, such as rural, economic, academic, housing, veterans, etc. Some of the dollar amounts attached to the programs are paltry; others climb up into the $billions.

Hopefully, this gifted link works because I ain't copy/pasting all of this.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/01/28/upshot/federal-programs-funding-trump-omb.html?unlocked_article_code=1.s04.qNfh.kv-HCPikQ7up&smid=url-share

 

this is the test run. they get to see what they can turn off and get the least amount of push back / public reaction 

 

Senator Cramer (R-ND) on Funding Freeze: It started out as chaos. It's already calmed down. It will be fine.

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1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Media rooms should be barred from repeating Trump press releases without a basic fact-check

 

This is not what my friend was offered.

They got a text message that said you could get 8 months of continued pay if you agree to voluntarily resign.  All they had to do was reply "resign" to that text message and it was done.

She told me this early yesterday, before this story even broke.

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So many companies routinely pare their employee rolls through RIFs whenever they need to meet their numbers.  The gentler, better ones offer buyouts with various exit incentives.  

Of all the stuff going on, a massive exit incentive plan seems like one of the least problematic things this guy is doing.  Devil's in the details, but you don't have to fight voluntary resignations in courts/federal arbitration, unlike RIFs and firings.  

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I get that some types of work are more amenable to remote work, and others work better in person, but it’s astonishing yet not surprising that it has become a left-right political issue. A republican administration saying that the entirety of a 2 million person workforce needs to be in person across the board is stupid beyond the pale. 

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This sounds fiscally irresponsible. 

Only if you actually payout.

The email was a cut and paste from the email Musk sent Twitter staff and he never paid out a cent of that severance.

I also read that Senator Kaine posted not to accept it because there’s no money allocated for it so there’s no mechanism to make the payments even if they wanted to.
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If it’s really delayed resignation as in you’re on payroll for seven months with no job tasks it could fall within the executive budget. But we all know when they see “resign” they’ll go to payroll immediately to “fix the glitch.” Good luck suing the federal government lol.

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2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Media rooms should be barred from repeating Trump press releases without a basic fact-check

Project 2025 stated he needs to replace 30% of the federal government workforce with loyalists. Thats all this is. 

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Just putting this here. This seems to be the Russian playbook. As it relates to America, foster dissent and isolationism. Fucking Trump and many Republicans are all Russian assets. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

In the Americas, United States, and Canada:

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]

 

Does that sound like what's been happening since the advent of social media. It was ramped up with the rise of the orange dipshit. And here we are...

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2 hours ago, TexArcher said:

 

This is not what my friend was offered.

They got a text message that said you could get 8 months of continued pay if you agree to voluntarily resign.  All they had to do was reply "resign" to that text message and it was done.

She told me this early yesterday, before this story even broke.

Can someone with skills please hack DJT and JDV's phones and reply "resign" ASAP? 

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1 hour ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Executive agencies are ignoring the judge ruling and funds still frozen. 
 

 

At what point does a group of oppositionists gather and attempt a violent coup? One week in and they are already just ignoring the law. It's already an insurrection, and the only chance to stop it is to kill/arrest them and seize power. That's where we are right now

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54 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

At what point does a group of oppositionists gather and attempt a violent coup? One week in and they are already just ignoring the law. It's already an insurrection, and the only chance to stop it is to kill/arrest them and seize power. That's where we are right now

This is exactly what they want to play out so that trump can call for martial law then the real party starts.

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What's the point of calling for martial law? He's already doing whatever he wants and ignoring the laws of the land. He's already staging a full insurrection in plain sight 1 week in if that's true they just ignored the federal judge's order. It's already past that point. 

It's now to the point he's either going to be the dictator or he gets overthrown and someone else seizes power with the backing of the military. That's where we are. 

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9 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

What's the point of calling for martial law? He's already doing whatever he wants and ignoring the laws of the land. He's already staging a full insurrection in plain sight 1 week in if that's true they just ignored the federal judge's order. It's already past that point. 

It's now to the point he's either going to be the dictator or he gets overthrown and someone else seizes power with the backing of the military. That's where we are. 

That’s exactly why they’re going to do it. He wants to deploy the military against the population that “don’t fall in line.” It’s part of the Project 2025 playbook and has been talked about coming to a city near you for a bit.

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He can already do that now if the government is just allowing them to blatantly ignore a federal judge's ruling. There's no law at that point. He can deploy the military on Americans now, unless someone steps up to kill/imprison him and his top people and seizes power. I find it hard to believe a power the size of the USA wouldn't have a fight for control once it's established that the rule of law is gone. Get the secret service on your side and a few military generals and have him, Vance, Miller, etc killed and seize control. I wonder who could be in position to do that? It could even be someone from within his own party

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8 minutes ago, Red Five said:

One way or another, I don't think we're gonna see four years of this. We can't survive it.

I'm of the opinion we don't survive it. We already haven't. Well just continue to slug along with inertia, becoming something substantially less than we were over time, until we're like Hungary or RUssia and run by Oligarchs. 

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14 hours ago, TexArcher said:

And of course he's a Christian, right?

absolutely.  he's such a Christian that he cheated on his wife with a fellow Congresswoman and only filed for divorce after he was caught.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/16/us-news/republican-congressman-files-for-divorce-amid-rumored-relationship-with-fellow-house-gop-colleague/

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Representative Beth Van Duyne (R-TX) has confirmed that she is dating Rep. Rich McCormick (R-GA), just one day after news of his divorce broke, and his wife dropped a cryptic hint that the two had engaged in an affair. On Thursday, Van Duyne confirmed reports that the two have become more than casual, conservative colleagues. “His marriage has been over for quite some time as I understand it, he’s filed for divorce,” Van Duyne told the Daily Mail. “I’m single. We’re both parents of adult children and empty nesters. We are happily engaged in a relationship and beyond that it's a personal issue,” she added. McCormick filed for divorce earlier this month, amid reports that he and Van Duyne were seen getting cozy in the House chambers, reportedly holding hands beneath a table.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republican-representative-beth-van-duyne-confirms-relationship-with-rich-mccormick-amid-affair-rumors/

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2 hours ago, crash_davis said:

Just putting this here. This seems to be the Russian playbook. As it relates to America, foster dissent and isolationism. Fucking Trump and many Republicans are all Russian assets. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

In the Americas, United States, and Canada:

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]

 

Does that sound like what's been happening since the advent of social media. It was ramped up with the rise of the orange dipshit. And here we are...

Ruskies been doing that shit way longer than AOL has been around.

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56 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

At what point does a group of oppositionists gather and attempt a violent coup? One week in and they are already just ignoring the law. It's already an insurrection, and the only chance to stop it is to kill/arrest them and seize power. That's where we are right now

I was told there was a deep state that would stop Trump.  

Impatient bear is impatient....

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1 hour ago, Hermanator said:

He can already do that now if the government is just allowing them to blatantly ignore a federal judge's ruling. There's no law at that point. He can deploy the military on Americans now, unless someone steps up to kill/imprison him and his top people and seizes power. I find it hard to believe a power the size of the USA wouldn't have a fight for control once it's established that the rule of law is gone. Get the secret service on your side and a few military generals and have him, Vance, Miller, etc killed and seize control. I wonder who could be in position to do that? It could even be someone from within his own party

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1 hour ago, Hermanator said:

At what point does a group of oppositionists gather and attempt a violent coup? One week in and they are already just ignoring the law. It's already an insurrection, and the only chance to stop it is to kill/arrest them and seize power. That's where we are right now

The majority of people in this country are laughing their asses off enjoying every minute of these events. If anything bad ever affects them they’ll blame Biden. Look at any comment section about eggs. For the last two years it was all Biden while dipshit said he’d fix it “on day one.” Now these people say “the president doesn’t control egg prices or bird flu.” Nothing’s going to happen because the electorate has been officially killed with brain rot. The rest of us are just along for the ride hoping for a life vest.

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3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

The majority of people in this country are laughing their asses off enjoying every minute of these events. If anything bad ever affects them they’ll blame Biden. Look at any comment section about eggs. For the last two years it was all Biden while dipshit said he’d fix it “on day one.” Now these people say “the president doesn’t control egg prices or bird flu.” Nothing’s going to happen because the electorate has been officially killed with brain rot. The rest of us are just along for the ride hoping for a life vest.

It's not the majority of people. He doesn't even have the support of the majority of voters.

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5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

It's not the majority of people. He doesn't even have the support of the majority of voters.

I used to think that too but I was wrong. I’m even hearing it now in ordinary conversations with people I used to think were decent people. A bunch of excuses and joy in seeing him “shake things up.” It’s over, there’s no coming back from this, these people would cheer them on if my wife is hassled by ICE at her school because of her last name and those of the children she serves. Gotta be safe right?

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