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11 hours ago, F250 said:

Out of curiosity, what was the time frame of these mandatory immunizations? I remember being a kid in the 80's and other kids getting Mumps and the Measles but I never caught it. All my childhood and teenage shots were administered by the military, I was a dependent. Anyone that had medical records from those days remembers an envelope with a fat stack of sheets. Those have been lost to history.

I do remember submitting immunization records but I wasn't paying attention at the time.

I've had the DTaP shot as an adult, that I remember getting.

If you had friends in the 80s who got mumps and or measles, it was a localized outbreak. Vaccinations have been mandatory since the 70s at least, and parents were much less likely to be loonies who were afraid of their kids getting vaccinated. Those parents grew up in the era of polio and understood what the risks of not vaccinating were. Once you got past elementary school, I’m not sure how strict junior high and high schools were about getting proof of vaccinations, but public universities in Texas were, which is why I had to go get another round

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Don't know if I had the vaccine in the 70s or not. But in the late 80s, when I was living on campus, there was a measles case in Moore Hill (where I lived).  UT immediately set up a table in the lobby, and required us all to get a vaccine/booster.  I did so, and that was that.

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42 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

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I know, right?

The question then becomes what do concerned American citizens do if Donald Trump or any president uses emergency powers to cancel elections or remain in power for a constitutionally prohibited third term?

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

I know, right?

The question then becomes what do concerned American citizens do if Donald Trump or any president uses emergency powers to cancel elections or remain in power for a constitutionally prohibited third term?

From what I've seen, we'll go quietly into the abyss, staring at our phones while we play Candy Crush or some shit.

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5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I thought you said on this website that you weren’t worried about this happening…

I'm not really all that worried about it happening, but I am curious how Americans would react if it did.

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4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I know, right?

The question then becomes what do concerned American citizens do if Donald Trump or any president uses emergency powers to cancel elections or remain in power for a constitutionally prohibited third term?

 

if / when that domino falls, it's well out of our hands 

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

From what I've seen, we'll go quietly into the abyss, staring at our phones while we play Candy Crush or some shit.

I don't know about that.  I remember the George Floyd riots.  I could see them happening again and then tfg ordering what should have happened to the Jan 6 rioters.  We all know he's dying to use the military on American citizens.  What happens after that is the real question.  Who carries out the orders?  Who turns their guns on them?  

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3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

if / when that domino falls, it's well out of our hands 

Maybe. Maybe not. I do believe that the number of rifles and handguns in the United States is a bit larger than those similar weapons in the possession of the German populous in the 1930s. Which weren’t similar, actually.  I’d guess that GOP politicians who support canceling elections would have to watch their back 24-7.  

I know they are terrified of Trump‘s minions, but I don’t know if they have thought this through. there are other people they need to be terrified of.

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Just now, Gatorubet said:

Maybe. Maybe not. I do believe that the number of rifles and handguns in the United States is a bit larger than those similar weapons in the possession of the German populous in the 1930s. Which weren’t similar, actually.  I’d guess that GOP politicians who support canceling elections would have to watch their back 24-7.  

I know they are terrified of Trump‘s minions, but I don’t know if they have thought this through. there are other people they need to be terrified of.

Recent R town halls I've seen shows people - presumable Rs - getting quite righteously angry at "keep your gubmint hands off my medicare and VA benefits."  So presumably there are some red lines out there.  Would cancelled elections be one?  

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Once there is violence, Trump will try to confiscate weapons.  It will be interesting to see if the Second Amendment, apparently the only amendment that counts in their worldview - can be violated and ignored if the guns they are collecting belong to the other side.

I would guess they have no problem with that.   I have an ancestor who, during the revolutionary war was charged by the committee of safety of the town to seize the firearms of Tories in the area.   No fucks were given about taking their private firearms because they were on the wrong team.      My guess would be that MAGA will allow the violation of the second amendment so long as it produces lib tears.

I also think there is a minority of true believer second amendment advocates who would think that is a bridge too far for Trump.   I only hope I never find out.

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3 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Recent R town halls I've seen shows people - presumable Rs - getting quite righteously angry at "keep your gubmint hands off my medicare and VA benefits."  So presumably there are some red lines out there.  Would cancelled elections be one?  

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Some West Virginiians were all for it at one time, since more libs were buying property in west Virginia and they felt threatened that it might turn blue, similar to northern Virginia. 

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26 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

If you had friends in the 80s who got mumps and or measles, it was a localized outbreak. Vaccinations have been mandatory since the 70s at least, and parents were much less likely to be loonies who were afraid of their kids getting vaccinated. Those parents grew up in the era of polio and understood what the risks of not vaccinating were. Once you got past elementary school, I’m not sure how strict junior high and high schools were about getting proof of vaccinations, but public universities in Texas were, which is why I had to go get another round

I have a distinct memory of being vaccinated at school for something. Late 70s. It was every kid lined up and someone jabbed something into your arm.

I have zero reservations about any vaccine. When the HPV vaccine came out and insurance would only pay for younger men to get it, I asked the doctor if there was any harm in getting myself as an older, single guy. He said it would only harm my wallet and could possibly offer little to no value. I rolled my sleeve and said go for it.

I was practically in line the day I became eligible for the shingles vaccine. 

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I would like to think that if we get to the cancelled elections/confiscating your guns etc. stage, a whole lot of magats would come to their senses and realize they had been conned.

I would like to think that. 

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9 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I have a distinct memory of being vaccinated at school for something. Late 70s. It was every kid lined up and someone jabbed something into your arm.

I had something similar, except we were all brought to a special room where they told us it was nap time, and I woke up with a sore butt.

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Carville seems fine with democrats letting trump implode—gives him a month. I think JC jumped the shark awhile back, but can still be a fun listen/read. 
 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/james-carville-makes-bold-prediction-223752694.html

James Carville predicted that President Donald Trump’s White House team will “collapse” in less than a month.

He advised Democrats to simply sit back and watch it happen

“We’re in the midst of a collapse. This is the lowest approval—not even close—that any president has ever had at a comparable time,” Carville said. “It’s going to be easy pickings here in six weeks. Just lay back.”

On Saturday, Trump attacked Carville after the strategist got testy with Sean Hannity on Fox News, questioning the network’s facts when it came to the president’s popularity.

“I’m reading these polls saying the Democrats are 13 points up in the congressional generic, that Donald Trump has the lowest approval rating of any president at this point in his presidency in American history,” Carville said on Hannity’s show. “So, your viewers are getting one view. And I’m reading another view. One of us is right and one of us is wrong. It’s that simple. Have they got fact checkers at Fox?”

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8 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I would like to think that if we get to the cancelled elections/confiscating your guns etc. stage, a whole lot of magats would come to their senses and realize they had been conned.

I would like to think that. 

I would like to think so too. But then I reflect on how MAGA views the traitorous J6 individuals and the events of that day, and I’m not so sanguine.   Anyone who has read TTom’s  Surly posts on January 6 would have some serious reservations that people like him give a shit about the Constitution.

Mostly, because they don’t.

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9 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I had something similar, except we were all brought to a special room where they told us it was nap time, and I woke up with a sore butt.

I’mma let somebody else bash this hanging curve

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4 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Carville seems fine with democrats letting trump implode—gives him a month. I think JC jumped the shark awhile back, but can still be a fun listen/read. 
 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/james-carville-makes-bold-prediction-223752694.html

James Carville predicted that President Donald Trump’s White House team will “collapse” in less than a month.

He advised Democrats to simply sit back and watch it happen

“We’re in the midst of a collapse. This is the lowest approval—not even close—that any president has ever had at a comparable time,” Carville said. “It’s going to be easy pickings here in six weeks. Just lay back.”

On Saturday, Trump attacked Carville after the strategist got testy with Sean Hannity on Fox News, questioning the network’s facts when it came to the president’s popularity.

“I’m reading these polls saying the Democrats are 13 points up in the congressional generic, that Donald Trump has the lowest approval rating of any president at this point in his presidency in American history,” Carville said on Hannity’s show. “So, your viewers are getting one view. And I’m reading another view. One of us is right and one of us is wrong. It’s that simple. Have they got fact checkers at Fox?”

What does he mean exactly by "collapse"?

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Just now, tx 3 putt said:

he's violating the constitution daily 

Yeah I get that. Does he mean a collapse in poll numbers? What does that get us?

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1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Yeah I get that. Does he mean a collapse in poll numbers? What does that get us?

A bucket of nothing. The apparatus is in place. 

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3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

What does he mean exactly by "collapse"?

I could see the narcissist having a stroke while eating a big Mac if there are riots throughout the country and many of his base are being mean to him.

I would think his first natural inclination would be to attack anyone in the GOP criticizing his plans. But if enough scared of their constituents congressmen oppose what he’s doing out of self preservation, creating a GOP on GOP fight is not going to help his problems.   Fox knows that it can lead public opinion, but it also knows they lose money if they go against strong public opinion.   If more right wing sources oppose Trump out of political self preservation it will start devolving into a bigger mess, as Trump only knows Roy Cohan’s strategy of always be on attack and never admit you are wrong - at least when you can throw other people under the bus.   That other person would be Elmo.    I think that Elmo knows a lot of things that would be very dangerous to Trump.   

Like the Ragin’ Cajun says, let’s sit back and watch it unfold

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2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I could see the narcissist having a stroke while eating a big Mac if there are riots throughout the country and many of his base are being mean to him.

I would think his first natural inclination would be to attack anyone in the GOP criticizing his plans. But if enough scared of their constituents congressmen oppose what he’s doing out of self preservation, creating a GOP on GOP fight is not going to help his problems.   Fox knows that it can lead public opinion, but it also knows they lose money if they go against strong public opinion.   If more right wing sources oppose Trump out of political self preservation it will start devolving into a bigger mess, as Trump only knows Roy Cohan’s strategy of always be on attack and never admit you are wrong - at least when you can throw other people under the bus.   That other person would be Elmo.    I think that Elmo knows a lot of things that would be very dangerous to Trump.   

Like the Ragin’ Cajun says, let’s sit back and watch it unfold

We should be so lucky as Vance has all the charisma of a throbbing hemorrhoid.  

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I mean if outrage reached a certain level and his poll numbers dropped far enough, eventually impeachment and removal from office would be on the table. But that would probably come after the whole cancellation of elections etc. part. And I'm not sure if we have enough leopards to eat that many faces. 

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So it looks like the US has buddied up with North Korea and Russia in opposing a UN resolution condemning the war and calling for Russian withdrawal.  It's consistent with the insanity coming from the White House but still has that "wow" factor when you see it in an actual UN vote.

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:

I would like to think that if we get to the cancelled elections/confiscating your guns etc. stage, a whole lot of magats would come to their senses and realize they had been conned.

I would like to think that. 

 

if musk / trump / russia is confident that they have a 'firm hold' on 2026 repairs, there's no reason to cancel 

if not, that's where things get interesting. anti trump R's ? conservative D's ? Promise of an impeachment vote ? (very pointless unless there's a huge Senate purge)

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43 minutes ago, Basil said:

So it looks like the US has buddied up with North Korea and Russia in opposing a UN resolution condemning the war and calling for Russian withdrawal.  It's consistent with the insanity coming from the White House but still has that "wow" factor when you see it in an actual UN vote.

 

19 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

We are one of just 18 countries in the world willing to go on record refusing to condemn Russia's invasion.

The company we keep:

  1. Belarus
  2. Burkina Faso
  3. Burundi
  4. Central African Republic
  5. North Korea
  6. Equatorial Guinea
  7. Eritrea
  8. Haiti
  9. Hungary
  10. Israel
  11. Mali
  12. Marshall Islands
  13. Nicaragua
  14. Niger
  15. Palau
  16. Russia
  17. Sudan
  18. United States of America

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14 hours ago, F250 said:

So, I am about 45 minutes away from there and never caught measles as a kid and don't have the vaccine. Should I get a vaccination in the event this explodes through the area?

In my experience, swine flu, various flus and Covid always seems to march west from SM/NB. Those fucking cocksuckers.

On NPR a specialist in contagious diseases pronounced measles as the most contagious of them all. If an infected person goes to a closed room, you can expect 90% of the persons inside to catch the disease. Be fucking careful.

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5 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

We are one of just 18 countries in the world willing to go on record refusing to condemn Russia's invasion.

The company we keep:

  1. Belarus
  2. Burkina Faso
  3. Burundi
  4. Central African Republic
  5. North Korea
  6. Equatorial Guinea
  7. Eritrea
  8. Haiti
  9. Hungary
  10. Israel
  11. Mali
  12. Marshall Islands
  13. Nicaragua
  14. Niger
  15. Palau
  16. Russia
  17. Sudan
  18. United States of America

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This is a very basic idea that isn't all the way true, but you could argue that Nicaragua is voting against the resolution because in theory the United States would be traditionally in favor of the revolution that we are now against.

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1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

Recent R town halls I've seen shows people - presumable Rs - getting quite righteously angry at "keep your gubmint hands off my medicare and VA benefits."  So presumably there are some red lines out there.  Would cancelled elections be one?  

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If everyone was in utopia while he ruled, sure, I think he could pull it off.  They're most certainly not.  OR if everyone was totally fucked preTrump - they were not.  So no, this won't fly.  Too many guns and even the run of the mill R are tiring of his shit.  The 'look over there' gambit works until people feel pain themselves.  The townhalls and social media diarrhea shows they're very much starting to feel it themselves.  And it's not going to get better.  The plan was always to fleece the middle class and poors.  All the other shit is window dressing for the clowns that back him.  Anyways, popcorn on the ready.  I won't need to pull any triggers myself...but if needed, I can afford plenty of munitions for us all.  

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4 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

If everyone was in utopia while he ruled, sure, I think he could pull it off.  They're most certainly not.  OR if everyone was totally fucked preTrump - they were not.  So no, this won't fly.  Too many guns and even the run of the mill R are tiring of his shit.  The 'look over there' gambit works until people feel pain themselves.  The townhalls and social media diarrhea shows they're very much starting to feel it themselves.  And it's not going to get better.  The plan was always to fleece the middle class and poors.  All the other shit is window dressing for the clowns that back him.  Anyways, popcorn on the ready.  I won't need to pull any triggers myself...but if needed, I can afford plenty of munitions for us all.  

Are you suggesting a Surly Army? Shit, talk about Gravy Seals.

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2 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Are you suggesting a Surly Army? Shit, talk about Gravy Seals.

Oh it doesn't take much.  I'm not putting a target on fat Ted but any uprising would target R leadership - it says right above, many of their own voters would turn into face feasting leopards.  The civil war talk is bullshit and I've said that from the start.  This is the uberwealthy wanna be (not wanna be anymore?) oligarchs vs the masses. 

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5 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Oh it doesn't take much.  I'm not putting a target on fat Ted but any uprising would target R leadership - it says right above, many of their own voters would turn into face feasting leopards.  The civil war talk is bullshit and I've said that from the start.  This is the uberwealthy wanna be (not wanna be anymore?) oligarchs vs the masses. 

I was just commenting on this last sentence and got cracked up with pictures in my head about what YOU PEOPLE (the Surly collective, excluding your debonairness, of course) might look like with your purchased munitions.

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29 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

We are one of just 18 countries in the world willing to go on record refusing to condemn Russia's invasion.

The company we keep:

  1. Belarus
  2. Burkina Faso
  3. Burundi
  4. Central African Republic
  5. North Korea
  6. Equatorial Guinea
  7. Eritrea
  8. Haiti
  9. Hungary
  10. Israel
  11. Mali
  12. Marshall Islands
  13. Nicaragua
  14. Niger
  15. Palau
  16. Russia
  17. Sudan
  18. United States of America

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Man, fuck them Palauans.  Team Vanuatu.

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7 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

https://bsky.app/profile/kendrawrites.com/post/3liuu7g72ik2c

This may not imbed, but at the governor's dinner at the white house last night the military choir sang Do You Hear the People Sing from Les Miserables.

that's a protest song, an appeal for a revolution "by the people" in les mis (1980)

just making sure you are not conflating this with "tomorrow belongs to me", the nazi song from cabaret (1972)

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macron flew over this morning & made the gibbon sit still for a 2-hour zoom w/ the G7 then they both just had an impromptu sit-down presser that lasted 40 minutes

way too much to cover in a post

50% doge 5 justifications fuckery

50% ukraine

having lunch then supposedly another presser in 2 hours

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1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

macron flew over this morning & made the gibbon sit still for a 2-hour zoom w/ the G7 then they both just had an impromptu sit-down presser that lasted 40 minutes

way too much to cover in a post

50% doge 5 justifications fuckery

50% ukraine

having lunch then supposedly another presser in 2 hours

For me big take away is if people don't answer the musk questions we will assume they do not exist and stop paying them.

So we do live in Office Space.



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