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Just now, Brisketexan said:

Yeah.....I mean, CLEARLY, someone who has issued the unambiguous statement within the past 24 months that "there's no safe and effective vaccine" would be cancelling vaccine planning meetings.....in order to make sure the process was better focused and more likely to successfully identify the incoming flu virus strain so that a...safe and effective vaccine or that strain could be developed.  And there's just no basis to think that it's for the reason of opposing all vaccines, because, in his own fucking words, "there's no safe and effective vaccine."

The RFP apologists like Ana are fucking Orwell come to life: "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

Yes, we should definitely disregard 500 years of medical history, 200 of which in the West, for the whims of a brain worm addled nepopbaby who thought it was cute to dump a bear carcass in Central Park - as a 60 year old.

FFS.  

1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

How long before Ana is saying shit like "actually, he's right, measles deaths are common and y'all are just freaking out over social media nonsense"?

3....2....

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3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

It's so much worse than no bottom. I cannot adjust my expectations low enough. 

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2 minutes ago, Bojack said:

It's so much worse than no bottom. I cannot adjust my expectations low enough. 

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I mean....y'all remember when the war cry for supporting Trumpm was "WE GOTTA STOP THE PEDOPHILES AND HUMAN TRAFFICKERS!!!!  COMET PING PONG PIZZAGATE!!!!"

We went from that being the defining issue of our times, and only Trump can save the children.....to Trump opening the gates of the US to human traffickers and pedophiles so long as they 1) have money/power, and 2) openly support and praise Trump.

Everything is the 180 degree opposite of the truth in this new era.  The people and movement who screamed the loudest about the evils of human trafficking and sexual abuse turn out to be its biggest supporters and enablers.  

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7 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

How long before Ana is saying shit like "actually, he's right, measles deaths are common and y'all are just freaking out over social media nonsense"?

"These people clearly died with covid measles, not from covid measles." 

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11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

How long before Ana is saying shit like "actually, he's right, measles deaths are common and y'all are just freaking out over social media nonsense"?

I can’t wait for his theory that measles was leaked from a Chinese lab in Lubbock. 

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1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

I can’t wait for his theory that measles was leaked from a Chinese lab in Lubbock. 

At least 5 DT posters are hard at work trying to tie Fauci to it right now. Ana won't say he definitely believes them when they make up some nonsense, but he'll repeat several dozen times that they're on to something and that it's really all our fault for thinking they're morons.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

The RFK Jr. apologists...

So, let's defend RFK Jr shall we? Here is a man who is aligned with Del Bigtree, the nonmedical huckster who turned anti-vaccine rhetoric into a lucrative career. Bigtree was, for a time, in Hollywood as a sometime actor and producer and it was during one of the shows he was assisting with that he ran across Andrew Wakefield. I don't need to tell you more about Wakefield I'm guessing. Anyhoo, Bigtree discovered that huckstering with this crowd can make some real money and he's been active ever since. Fast forward to NOW:

Bigtree took RFK Jr's place at MAHA after Kennedy was picked for Secretary. MAHA is Make America Healthy Again and Bigtree is now CEO. No medical training whatsoever, but he's fine with that because medicine isn't necessary for what ails America apparently: (this is from an interview he did with FOX)
 

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"At MAHA.io, we deliver a transformative approach to health and wellness by reimagining every dimension of well-being; physical, mental, social, and environmental," the site says on its homepage. "Our unique value lies in seamlessly integrating innovative media, state-of-the-art technology, and holistic health solutions to empower individuals and communities."

The hub will create a network of a national directory of doctors "who prioritize lifestyle adjustments over prescription drugs," says the site.

The MAHA movement will be narrowing in on legislation at both the state and national level.

A database will be built that tracks legislation — indicating whether the proposed legislation is "anti-MAHA" or "MAHA approved."

"Robert Kennedy Jr. doesn't need to eradicate any vaccine from the program. He just needs to show you how long the safety trial was," Bigtree said.

"He just needs to make [that] available to you and make sure the doctors give you true informed consent that these are known side effects, that we haven't done proper trials to know how long they would be," Bigtree added.

So this is two men who will be promoting a "health" version of the political groups that give a scorecard and will without a doubt be promoted by Fox, Xitter, and be a defacto government mouthpiece for anti-science rhetoric.

I know RFK Jr has his own thread, and the US certainly needs to revisit health and wellness policy but after the absolute shit that people gave former First Lady Obama for trying to amend the corporate foothold in the school lunch program and encourage dietary moderation, fuck their care and concern. They just want to grift off of ignorance.

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1 minute ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

So, let's defend RFK Jr shall we? Here is a man who is aligned with Del Bigtree, the nonmedical huckster who turned anti-vaccine rhetoric into a lucrative career. Bigtree was, for a time, in Hollywood as a sometime actor and producer and it was during one of the shows he was assisting with that he ran across Andrew Wakefield. I don't need to tell you more about Wakefield I'm guessing. Anyhoo, Bigtree discovered that huckstering with this crowd can make some real money and he's been active ever since. Fast forward to NOW:

Bigtree took RFK Jr's place at MAHA after Kennedy was picked for Secretary. MAHA is Make America Healthy Again and Bigtree is now CEO. No medical training whatsoever, but he's fine with that because medicine isn't necessary for what ails America apparently: (this is from an interview he did with FOX)
 

So this is two men who will be promoting a "health" version of the political groups that give a scorecard and will without a doubt be promoted by Fox, Xitter, and be a defacto government mouthpiece for anti-science rhetoric.

I know RFK Jr has his own thread, and the US certainly needs to revisit health and wellness policy but after the absolute shit that people gave former First Lady Obama for trying to amend the corporate foothold in the school lunch program and encourage dietary moderation, fuck their care and concern. They just want to grift off of ignorance.

He's also responsible for the deaths of 83 children in Samoa. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

They just want to grift off of ignorance.

Well, I DO have to tip my hat to their business acumen.  Because if that's what they're grifting off of, they are tapping into America's greatest natural resources.  Sources tell me that our reserves are limitless.

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Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

He's also responsible for the deaths of 83 children in Samoa. 

 

Yeah, it's a long list but I wanted to point out that once MAHA really gets going, this could have a definite impact on people's ability to evaluate their healthcare options. Legislation and doctors being NOT APPROVED would run up against the AMA but now that there are these look alike associations with similar names, it will confound folks even more.

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Another reason I mentioned the tie to MAHA is that one of the areas they emphasize with respect to vaccines is the length of the trial. That would perhaps be fine for a long standing vaccine (unless they nitpick which they very well may) but what is one to do with their  focus on trials with short season vaccines like the flu? (While its manufacturing process/etc took over a decade to develop, it's the type of loophole logic I expect anti-vaccine proponents to exploit) Hence the concern over whether these vaccines will even be available next season.

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HHS spokesperson has confirmed that strain selection and communication to manufactures will occur as necessary for production. Offit spun this up in the press, and there is certainly no love lost between him and the HHS leadership. 

 "The FDA will make public its recommendations to manufacturers in time for updated vaccines to be available for the 2025-2026 influenza season," the spokesperson, Andrew Nixon, said in a statement.

 

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19 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

"The FDA will make public its recommendations to manufacturers in time for updated vaccines to be available for the 2025-2026 influenza season," the spokesperson, Andrew Nixon, said in a statement.

Do you believe them?  Really?  You do?  An admin that has spewed a firehose of lies....and you are citing their STATEMENTS as authority for....anything but the OPPOSITE of what they say?

You. Are.  FANTASTIC.  Truly.  You believe nothing, are convinced that every person and institution that exists is conspiring against us.....unless it's a person or institution associated with this regime, in which case you take them at their word, without question. 

It's fucking incredible to watch.

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Nothing to see here folks. All good. Wait, I do not know more than hospitals?

 

Newly appointed Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. appeared to dismiss a rare measles outbreak that has killed a child in Texas and sickened more than 120 people.

“It is not unusual, we have measles outbreaks every year,” the controversial politician said during Trump’s first cabinet meeting Wednesday afternoon.

Kennedy then went on to incorrectly state that two people have died from the outbreak, when multiple officials had only confirmed one death as of Wednesday. He also said the majority of hospitalizations have been “mainly for quarantine,” which health officials have also denied.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/health-secretary-rfk-jr-downplays-033800949.html

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Posted (edited)

Oh, and Trump is going forward with 25% tariffs on Canadian goods.  Why?  Well, let's see what he said:

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Posting on Truth Social on Thursday, Trump said that illicit drugs such as fentanyl are being smuggled into the United States at “unacceptable levels" and that import taxes would force other countries to crackdown on the trafficking.

“We cannot allow this scourge to continue to harm the USA, and therefore, until it stops, or is seriously limited, the proposed TARIFFS scheduled to go into effect on MARCH FOURTH will, indeed, go into effect, as scheduled,” the Republican president wrote. 

Is this based on facts/reality?  Come on, folks.  It's Trump.  OF COURSE IT ISN'T:

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Federal statistics show US border authorities seized 21,889 pounds of fentanyl in the 2024 fiscal year. Of that amount, 43 pounds were seized at the Canadian border — about 0.2% — compared with 21,148 pounds at the Mexican border, about 96.6%.

FFS, Jimmy Earl's trailer lab in Possum Taint, Iowa is responsible for more fentanyl on our streets than Canada is.

This is completely nonsensical performative fucking idiocy.  Which is the theme of our entire goddamned wretched country these days.  BUT...you can rest assured of one thing: Anastasis, who totally didn't vote for Trump and does not support him in any way, agrees completely with this move.

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1 hour ago, hookem2010 said:

DOGE’s Chaos Reaches Antarctica


Daily life at US-run Antarctic stations has already been disrupted. Scientists worry that the long-term impacts could upend not only important research but the continent’s delicate geopolitics.

Few agencies have been spared as Elon Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has ripped through the United States federal government. Even in Antarctica, scientists and workers are feeling the impacts—and are terrified for what’s to come.

The United States Antarctic Program (USAP) operates three permanent stations in Antarctica. These remote stations are difficult to get to and difficult to maintain; scattered across the continent, they are built on volcanic hills, polar plateaus, and icy peninsulas.
But to the US, the science has been worth it. At these stations, over a thousand people each year come to the continent to live and work. Scientists operate a number of major research projects, studying everything from climate change and rising sea levels to the cosmological makeup and origins of the universe itself. With funding cuts and layoffs looming, Antarctic scientists and experts don’t know if their research will be able to continue, how US stations will be sustained, or what all this might mean for the continent’s delicate geopolitics.

“Even brief interruptions will result in people walking away and not coming back,” says Nathan Whitehorn, an associate professor and Antarctic scientist at Michigan State University. “It could easily take decades to rebuild.”

The USAP is managed by the National Science Foundation. Last week, a number of NSF program managers staffed on Antarctic projects were fired as part of a wider purge at the agency. The program managers are critical for maintaining communication with the infrastructure and logistics arm of the NSF, and the contractors for the USAP, as well as planning deployment for scientists to the continent, keeping track of the budgets, and funding the maintenance and operations work. “I have no idea what we do without them,” says another Antarctic scientist who has spent time on the continent, who along with several others WIRED granted anonymity due to fears of retaliation.

“Without them, everything stops,” says a scientist whose NSF project manager was fired last week. “I have no idea who I am supposed to report to now or what happens to submitted proposals.”

Scientific research happens at all of the stations. At the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station, scientists work on the South Pole Telescope and BICEP telescope, both of which study the cosmic background radiation and the evolution of the universe; IceCube, a cubic-kilometer detector designed to study neutrino physics and high energy emission from astrophysical sources; and the Atmospheric Research Observatory that studies climate science and is run by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. (Mass firings are also expected at the NOAA.)

“The climate science [at the South Pole Station] is super unique,” an Antarctic scientist says. “The site has so little pollution that we call it ‘the cleanest air on Earth,’ and they have been monitoring the ozone layer and CO2 content in the atmosphere for many decades.”

Other directives from the Donald Trump administration have directly affected daily life on those stations. “Gender-inclusive terms on housing documents” have been removed from Antarctic staffer forms, a source familiar with the situation at McMurdo Station tells WIRED. “It asked if you had a preference with which gender you housed with,” the source says. “That’s all been removed.”

Staffers have already pushed back. “People have been painting waste bins saying “Antarctica is for ALL” in rainbow, people’s email signatures [have] pride additions, [others] keep adding preferred pronouns to emails,” the source says.

“There’s a sense of unease on the station like people have never felt before,” they add. “The job still has to get done, even though people feel like the next shoe can drop at any moment.”

That unease extends to their own job security. “There are some people currently at the South Pole that are worried about losing their jobs any day now,” a source with familiarity of the situation tells WIRED. Workers present at the station aren’t able to physically leave until October, and a midseason firing, or loss of funding, would present a unique set of challenges.

Sources are also bracing for at least a 50 percent reduction in the NSF’s budget due to DOGE cuts. These cuts are sending Antarctic scientists with assistants and graduate students scrambling. “We didn’t know if we could pay graduate students,” says one scientist. While research is conducted on the continent, scientists bring their findings back to the US to process and analyze. A lot of the funding also operates the science itself: For one project that requires electricity to run detectors, the scientist “was paranoid we would not be able to literally pay bills for an experiment starved for data.” That hasn’t come to fruition yet, but as funding cycles restart in the coming weeks and months, scientists are on tenterhooks.

Sources tell WIRED that Germany, Canada, Spain, and China have already started taking advantage of that uncertainty by recruiting US scientists focused on Antarctica.

“Foreign countries are actively recruiting my colleagues, and some have already left,” says one Antarctic scientist. “My students are looking at jobs overseas now … people have been coming [to the US] to do science my whole life. Now people are going the other way.”

“Now is a great time to see if anyone wants to jump ship,” another Antarctic scientist says. “I do worry about a brain drain of tenured academics, or students who are shunted out.”

“The damage caused by gutting the [Antarctic] science budget like this is going to last generations,” says another.

Throughout DOGE’s cuts to the federal government, representatives have said that if something needs to be brought back, it could be. In some cases, reversals have already happened: The US Department of Agriculture said it accidentally fired staffers working on preventing the spread of bird flu and is trying to rehire them.

But in Antarctica, a reversal won’t necessarily work. “One of the really scary things about this is that if the Antarctic program budget is cut, then they’ll very quickly get to the point where they can’t even keep the station open, much less science projects going,” an Antarctic scientist tells WIRED. “If the South Pole [station] is shut down, it’s basically nearly impossible to bring it back up. Everything will freeze and get buried in snow. And some other country will likely immediately take over.
Others share this fear of a station takeover. “Even if science funding is cut back, there is an urgent need for the US to invest in icebreakers and polar airlift capability otherwise at some point the US-managed South Pole station might not be serviceable,” says Klaus Dodds, an Antarctic expert and professor of geopolitics at Royal Holloway University of London.

Experts are concerned that countries like Russia and China—who have already been eagle-eyed on continental influence—will quickly jostle to fill the power vacuum. “Presumably it would be humiliating for anyone who wishes to promote ‘America First’ to witness China offer to take over the occupation and management of the base at the heart of Antarctica. China is a very determined polar power,” says Dodds.

The political outcome of the US pulling back from its Antarctic research and presence could be dire, sources tell WIRED.

Antarctica isn’t owned by any one country. Instead it’s governed by the Antarctic Treaty System, which protects Antarctica and the scientific research taking place on the continent, and forbids mining and nuclear activity. Some countries, including China and Russia, have indicated that they would be interested in rule changes to the Treaty system, particularly around resource extraction and fishing restrictions. The US, traditionally, has played a key role in championing the treaty: “Many of the leading polar scientists and social scientists are either US citizens and/or have been enriched by contact with US-led programs,” says Dodds.

That leadership role could change quickly. The US also participates in a number of international collaborations involving major Antarctic scientific projects. A US pullback, Whitehorn says, “makes it very hard to regard the US as a reliable partner, so I think there will be a lot less interest in accepting US leadership in such things … The uncertainty will drive people away and sacrifice the leadership the US already has.”

“If the NSF can’t function, or we don’t fund it, projects with long lead times can just die,” another scientist says. “I’m sure international partners would be happy to partner elsewhere. This is what it means to lose US competitiveness."

I have a friend who's working down there.  Vocal critic of tfg.  This sucks.  

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

And they flew into Ft Lauderdale...  probably to fuck Roger Stone's wife (he likes that tho, cuckpublicans)

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4 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The fucking Tate thing is infuriating. The new face of America, pushing to have rapists and sex traffickers escape accountability because their audience is MAGA.  What a disgusting, repulsive image to present to the world. 

 

I want to think that this would embarrass people who voted MAGA but I know it won’t.  The libs don’t like rape, so rape is now MAGA-adjacent.  

Don’t forget cop killers/assaulters

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17 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I have a friend who's working down there.  Vocal critic of tfg.  This sucks.  

I can't imagine being in Antarctica, where you're obviously doing work you really care about, and having to worry about getting fired and being stuck there for months. 

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3 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

I can't imagine being in Antarctica, where you're obviously doing work you really care about, and having to worry about getting fired and being stuck there for months. 

Yeah he sends all our nerdy friends updates on the cool stuff they're doing down there.  Seems like a good time for a check in.

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13 hours ago, Anastasis said:

No one is suggesting this here. But it is wild that any rethinking of the process, one that has multiple redundancies and fails to meet the objective goals is automatically rejected. If you want to really wild, look at what offit has said about the covid vaccine strategy and the role the FDA and CDC played in mucking that shit up. 

Cite your source or bullshit. 

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36 minutes ago, locodos said:

And they flew into Ft Lauderdale...  probably to fuck Roger Stone's wife (he likes that tho, cuckpublicans)

Um, he claimed having sex with women for fun is gay, and that being alpha is having sex with transgender women who still have the original plumbing.   I think Stone's wife is going to have to rent some other boys.

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2 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

I can’t wait for his theory that measles was leaked from a Chinese lab in Lubbock. 

I believe that's herpes, and the Chinese lab was a white chick named Bethany.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Oh, and Trump is going forward with 25% tariffs on Canadian goods.  Why?  Well, let's see what he said:

Is this based on facts/reality?  Come on, folks.  It's Trump.  OF COURSE IT ISN'T:

FFS, Jimmy Earl's trailer lab in Possum Taint, Iowa is responsible for more fentanyl on our streets than Canada is.

This is completely nonsensical performative fucking idiocy.  Which is the theme of our entire goddamned wretched country these days.  BUT...you can rest assured of one thing: Anastasis, who totally didn't vote for Trump and does not support him in any way, agrees completely with this move.

Protectionism, we need 'murican made fentanyl to keep the Jimmy Earl's in business. Seriously though, why is there not more discussion on why the US has such a demand for this shit? What kind of shithole country has so many people gobbling this crap up like candy? Sounds like a country full of degenerates if you ask me, I'd close down the border if I were another country to keep this sick fuck American's out. 

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Sage words from a therapist, shared with me by a friend:

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So many of my clients are dysregulated because they see and hear the awful truths that others around them refuse to see and hear. My constant mantra is, “Your symptoms are proof of your health. You are guilty simply of bearing witness to what is. In this current time, to be conscious is to be horrified. Your capacity for empathy and compassion far surpass the existence of these qualities in the collective." 

IN A TIME OF COLLECTIVE PSYCHOSIS, STAY HUMAN.

 

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11 minutes ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

Sage words from a therapist, shared with me by a friend:

 

TLDR; I just need to drink a lot more whiskey.  It has to help.  It can't possibly hurt.

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So....potentially weird and off topic question. How would one go get trained and/or apply to be a flight air traffic controller? Do have to have a flying or military background? Is there a for profit/private school you can attend to get the training and the hours like they have with pilots? Asking for a nephew who could use a decent white collar job and some middle class stability...

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You do not need a flying or military background to be a controller. He should know going in that it is stressful and he'll need to be detail-oriented, quick-thinking, and have the ability to remain calm under immense pressure, all over long hours. He'll also need to be younger than 34 or 35, I think. 

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5 minutes ago, ConferenceRoom said:

You do not need a flying or military background to be a controller. He should know going in that it is stressful and he'll need to be detail-oriented, quick-thinking, and have the ability to remain calm under immense pressure, all over long hours. He'll also need to be younger than 34 or 35, I think. 

And white and male, no more dei shit like hiring qualified women or minorities. Sorry for the oxymoron, women and minorities are by definition never qualified, so just be a white male. He should also probably by a Cybertruck and post a bunch on social media about how Elon is the coolest alpha memelord to ever live. 

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1 hour ago, hookem2010 said:

I can't imagine being in Antarctica, where you're obviously doing work you really care about, and having to worry about getting fired and being stuck there for months. 

At least it's not America.

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1 hour ago, hookem2010 said:

I can't imagine being in Antarctica, where you're obviously doing work you really care about, and having to worry about getting fired and being stuck there for months. 

"If they dress like that, they had it coming"

-Maga Scholar

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Posted
3 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

I can’t wait for his theory that measles was leaked from a Chinese lab in Lubbock. 

Per Facebook, measles were brought into Texas via migrants crossing illegally while smuggling fentanyl.

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17 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Follow up for Musk's call to action RE retired controllers:

 

 

 

 

The quote: "This fucking guy has no clue what he's doing."

 

Martin Eberhard, Marc Tarpenning, and BoDs of Zip2 and PayPal: Just now discovering this, America?

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24 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Follow up for Musk's call to action RE retired controllers:

 

 

 

 

“Wanted, old white air traffic controllers. Must be white. Must be male (will check your birth certificate). Whites only.” 

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I guess there is probably no law against a president letting his largest campaign donor essentially run the country as he sees fit, with zero accountability. But... hear me out. Maybe there should be? Lawyers, what's the closest we've got?

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24 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

Per Facebook, measles were brought into Texas via migrants crossing illegally while smuggling fentanyl.

Even if that were true, it wouldn’t be transmitted and spreading if our populace had herd immunity via sufficient vaccination. 

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25 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

“Wanted, old white air traffic controllers. Must be white. Must be male (will check your birth certificate). Whites only.” 

And straight. 

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8 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How did we keep air traffic going during the Reagan era atc strike?

Not easily. IIRC they did not fire all of them since some did not walk out. They backfilled with military controllers. I remember reading somewhere that it took over 2 years to get new ones out the pipeline.

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41 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

“Wanted, old white air traffic controllers. Must be white. Must be male (will check your birth certificate). Whites only.” 

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If only this guy was still alive.

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4 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The RFP apologists like Ana are fucking Orwell come to life: "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

you are the #1 reason everyone doesn't place an embargo on it

if you join the ignore contingent, everyone who posts will follow

i just lost 15 valuable minutes reading 2 pages that are 90% quoting it

make the dt crowd come in here to quote it

oxygen starvation

this is the way



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