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2 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

As a fellow USNA grad I am so fucking embarrassed and I haven't even watched any of the videos yet.  Fucking unreal.  

do yourself a favor: don't.

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

Yeah, I don't think that's gonna work even with idiots. Everyone knows Russia invaded Ukraine and that this isn't how you treat anyone. This is bad optics even for the base. They are self destructing. 

He wears a suit jacket 

He does dress quite Russian.

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I'm libertarian/conservative.  I didn't vote for Trump.  Right now I'm going through all the emotions, but mostly I'm just sad. Sad, embarrassed, and angry.  It's apparent on its face that Russia invaded Ukraine.  Even if one of my kids is doing the "I'm not touching you I'm not touching you" to the other, when the other hits them, that's on them. Fuck Russia.  For the U.S. this is a terrible look in every way: we look every part of the bully, we're cozying up to Russia/Putin, we're denigrating a democratic partner, we're selling out an ally, we're abdicating any type of leadership role and moral authority, we're taking advantage of the weak and stealing their wealth.  We're so far from the "shining city on the hill" that Reagan described, it's sad.  I'm sad.

And I get why people voted for Trump.  They feel marginalized, overlooked, like the economy left them behind.  They see DEI as quotas reborn and are told that if they're white, male, or straight that they are essentially evil.  Trump tapped into that anger and rage. What I can't square is how they overlook all the stuff above because it's their guy.  "Yeah he's an asshole and he's hurting me, but he's my asshole and he's hurting everyone I hate more."

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How, exactly, did Dotard “stand up for America”? Because Z didn’t thank us enough times? Standing up for America would be helping our democratic ally defeat the invading dictator, wouldn’t it Little Marco? As opposed to humiliating him and us for no reason.

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3 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Rhetorical question I know, but can anyone honestly articulate what we are standing up against?  

Democracy.

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So next steps now, there is no way Zelenskyy stays in office, right?  His relationship with Trump and necessity of U.S. support for Ukraine precludes it.  Playing out the chess game, Ukraine's moves are:

  1. He stays as President and capitulates to Trump's demand for subjugation and sells out mineral rights and accepts whatever shit deal Trump cuts with the Russians.  Or,
  2. He stays as President and remains steadfast in a "fair" deal for Ukraine, and sees Trump sell him out vs. Russia and withdraw all U.S. support going forward.  His only play here would be to backstop U.S. support with EU support, I don't think there is enough to go around to make up the gap.  Or,
  3. He resigns under pressure from the Ukranian parliment.  Either through appointment or election he is replaced by a new personality, probably more malleable to Trump and more friendly.  Takes whatever deal he can get, or as Lindsay Graham says "He knows his place."  
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Posted
18 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Rhetorical question I know, but can anyone honestly articulate what we are standing up against?  

facts, decency.

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23 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Rhetorical question I know, but can anyone honestly articulate what we are standing up against?  

The unforgivable crime of not being told “thank you”

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3 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Don't you fucking dare justify this shit.    You don't vote for a rapist, conman, felon, because we need change. you do it cause you are a piece of shit.   

full

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Posted
2 minutes ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Can somebody tag me when we get that inevitable video compilation of Zellensky thanking America? I know it’s coming.

His tweet immediately after leaving.  Gotta respect the passive aggressiveness.

r/europe - Zelenskyy statement after leaving the White House 

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2 hours ago, immamac said:

I mean he should probably wear a fucking suit though especially if he knows it'll set off the clown show. 

I am sure they will make the Saudi leadership step out of their dresses right?  No, of course not.  This wasn't set off by wardrobe selection, this was theater,  entirely planned to be an asshole to him, to make him seem disrespectful in attempt to justify their cozying up to Putin and trying to create peace agreements like an 1800s European colonizer. 

If he wore a suit, they would have just latched on to whatever thinly veiled distraction they could manage.  You didn't thank us.  Well you didn't thank us enough.  You campaigned for the guy who beat our guy's ass and helped your country, how fucking dare you!   

 

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

How many years is it going to take before you realize you’re wasting your time? You’re operating at cross-purposes. If he was attempting to engage in honest, thoughtful, rational discourse then you might have a point. But he’s not. He’s intellectually dishonest. He’s an impulsive contrarian who gets off on the attention from being a fly in the ointment. And he’s not half as smart as he thinks he is if you haven’t caught on to that yet.

I put him on ignore back when he was parroting Trump’s “collusion delusion” catchphrase, that was around 8 years ago now. I’ve got him figured out. Nothing I’ve seen in the years of other people quoting him has revealed anything new to me. He is now exactly who I thought he was then.

He’s a troll. He adds nothing to the conversation other than disruption and distraction. By engaging with him you reward him and help him disrupt and distract. Are you surprised by anything he says? Or does he say exactly what you’d expect him to say because you’ve got him figured out and have for a long time?

Preach, brother.

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I missed this one, sorry if already posted.

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Upside down world strikes again. Water is dry.

How dare Z sit there and get screamed at in front of the press by the President and Vice President.
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5 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

I missed this one, sorry if already posted.

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This is a bitch ass telling a warrior he should fear the bully with bone spurs. What absolute horse shit. 

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39 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

So next steps now, there is no way Zelenskyy stays in office, right?  His relationship with Trump and necessity of U.S. support for Ukraine precludes it.  Playing out the chess game, Ukraine's moves are:

  1. He stays as President and capitulates to Trump's demand for subjugation and sells out mineral rights and accepts whatever shit deal Trump cuts with the Russians.  Or,
  2. He stays as President and remains steadfast in a "fair" deal for Ukraine, and sees Trump sell him out vs. Russia and withdraw all U.S. support going forward.  His only play here would be to backstop U.S. support with EU support, I don't think there is enough to go around to make up the gap.  Or,
  3. He resigns under pressure from the Ukranian parliment.  Either through appointment or election he is replaced by a new personality, probably more malleable to Trump and more friendly.  Takes whatever deal he can get, or as Lindsay Graham says "He knows his place."  

What we've learned in three years is Russia's military is absolute dogshit.  The EU armed forces would have no problem toting the mail after we leave Ukraine high and dry.

Hell, the EU should cut a deal with Japan and tell them after Russia collapses they can retake Sakhalin.

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1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

What we've learned in three years is Russia's military is absolute dogshit.  The EU armed forces would have no problem toting the mail after we leave Ukraine high and dry.

Hell, the EU should cut a deal with Japan and tell them after Russia collapses they can retake Sakhalin.

I'm all for it; I just doubt Europe's resolve once the U.S. drops out.  Easier to just let Russia take Ukraine, Moldova, etc.  They'll grasp their pearls but other than Poland I'd be surprised if they put troops down there to act as peacekeepers. They've already donated their spare gear and are just now spinning up their military industrial base.

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59 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

They feel marginalized, overlooked, like the economy left them

Bullshit 

Welcome to the Iggy bin. 

 

I see there's a fresh pile. Won't be on my timeline for long.

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25 minutes ago, Nivek said:

I am sure they will make the Saudi leadership step out of their dresses right?  No, of course not.  This wasn't set off by wardrobe selection, this was theater,  entirely planned to be an asshole to him, to make him seem disrespectful in attempt to justify their cozying up to Putin and trying to create peace agreements like an 1800s European colonizer. 

If he wore a suit, they would have just latched on to whatever thinly veiled distraction they could manage.  You didn't thank us.  Well you didn't thank us enough.  You campaigned for the guy who beat our guy's ass and helped your country, how fucking dare you!   

 

 

 

 

 

I was trying to explain this to someone based on a previous example. The Eu and US did not want the Bosniaks at meetings during the war. So an argument used was They did not dress likes statesman enough. meanwhile the two murderous neighbors, Croatia and Serbia, were allowed in. They dressed like "statesmen."

Maybe Srebrenica would not have happened if we did not care so much about the dress. And the SS uniform was designed by Hugo Boss.

If dress determines this shit I am getting a shirt that says Tech Support.

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1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

I'm trying to parse/deconstruct this.  In what universe does this make sense? 

"I have determined that President Zelensky is not ready for Peace if America is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations."

 

Denny Crane!

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Russian State media was in the Oval Office for the Zelensky-Trump showdown

 

Just came to post that. TASS was in the room. Reuters and the AP were not granted access. 

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Posted
7 hours ago, hornmpa96 said:

I’ve never done the tour because Turkish Air’s business class lounge in Istanbul is amazing - really good food and self-serve liquor.

It's the Surly Tailgate of air travel.

Posted
1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Rhetorical question I know, but can anyone honestly articulate what we are standing up against?  

Decency?

Maturity?

Self-respect?

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1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

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$1,000 says somebody on Team Trump saw the uncomfortable look on Marco’s face in the Oval Office and told him to get his shit together and send a slobbering tweet like this.

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