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Saw a poll this morning asking Americans about Trump, Canada, and Mexico. There was actually a positive view of how the U.S. is handling Canada. Jesus, I can’t believe how stupid Americans are. 

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2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

"illegally and collusively boycott" is certainly a new one.  It's illegal to boycott a business?  Like InBev (Bud Light), etc.?

Today’s laws are meant to protect Republicans and bind Democrats.

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1 hour ago, Chult86 said:

I can speak to this...

Had our first kid six months before COVID really became a thing. I was a Golf Pro at the time. My wife worked in admin for construction. We were both "Essential Workers" and stayed working through the entirety of the pandemic. Dealing with the general Publix during that time, let alone the Boomers... I'm still reeling from it. Golf Courses had to remain open, a window construction company needed to remain open. Not sure that the hell was "Essential" about either of those, but going to work every day hoping you don't bring home the virus to a baby, especially in the early days where we didn't know much about it and who was affected more severely.

We got to watch our friends take six or more months off, making more than we were from the increased unemployment. A pseudo... "break" in the grind that is adult life, while we just kept soldiering on. That is and was beyond exhausting. Couple that with ridiculous inflation from said virus and the worst management of a health crisis in modern history, and the fact that the American Dream has been dead for decades, oh and the fact that we're just subject to daily utter chaos since TFG is back in office, how are we not broken? I'm fucking tired, man.

I fully get the exhaustion, but what made people think that this con man was the answer?  That’s where I lose the track.  

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4 minutes ago, bolverk said:

TFG is slapping a 50% tariff on Canadian steel and aluminum. He goes on to say he'll kill their (and our) auto industry, along with continued threats to annex a peaceful, sovereign neighbor.

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I mean, I said before that it has risen to the level of "material risk," but it's now approaching "certainty" level: the US and Canada are heading for a shooting war.

Read that again, and stew on it: the US and Canada are heading for a shooting war.

It will be an illegal war, launched without congressional authorization.  And, it will expand, rapidly and disastrously.  Canada is part of the commonwealth - the UK will have no choice but to get involved.

There is one failsafe left: members of the US military remembering their duty, and refusing to follow illegal orders to attack Canada and kill Canadian troops and civilians.  Which will lead to an irrevocable crisis here at home - a split like that between the military and the POTUS cannot be mended.

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2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Do it motherfucker.  I hope you're vaporized in a cloud of LOx.

God has utterly forsaken us for the past decade.  This is His opportunity to come through for us.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

I mean, I said before that it has risen to the level of "material risk," but it's now approaching "certainty" level: the US and Canada are heading for a shooting war.

Read that again, and stew on it: the US and Canada are heading for a shooting war.

It will be an illegal war, launched without congressional authorization.  And, it will expand, rapidly and disastrously.  Canada is part of the commonwealth - the UK will have no choice but to get involved.

There is one failsafe left: members of the US military remembering their duty, and refusing to follow illegal orders to attack Canada and kill Canadian troops and civilians.  Which will lead to an irrevocable crisis here at home - a split like that between the military and the POTUS cannot be mended.

Yeah, I read that Malcolm Nance assessment, too. Sounds fucking insane, yet here we are.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

I mean, I said before that it has risen to the level of "material risk," but it's now approaching "certainty" level: the US and Canada are heading for a shooting war.

Read that again, and stew on it: the US and Canada are heading for a shooting war.

It will be an illegal war, launched without congressional authorization.  And, it will expand, rapidly and disastrously.  Canada is part of the commonwealth - the UK will have no choice but to get involved.

There is one failsafe left: members of the US military remembering their duty, and refusing to follow illegal orders to attack Canada and kill Canadian troops and civilians.  Which will lead to an irrevocable crisis here at home - a split like that between the military and the POTUS cannot be mended.

It's almost like something like this scenario would greatly help Putin.  America destroying itself from within and with its allies.  What a coincidence.  

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6 minutes ago, bolverk said:

TFG is slapping a 50% tariff on Canadian steel and aluminum. He goes on to say he'll kill their (and our) auto industry, along with continued threats to annex a peaceful, sovereign neighbor.

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14 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

They know the orange shithead is an angry toddler, and that he will respond with greater tariffs if poked. .    

Canada is smashing him in the nose, knowing full well that he will get off of his toilet, throw down his cell phone, and start throwing punches with his tiny doll hands at the things nearest to him, regardless of whether it is in his best interests to do so. 

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Just now, Gatorubet said:

 

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And the Canadian people need to understand that they are already at war with the US regime, and they need to be on a wartime footing.  That is going to involve some real pain, hardship, and sacrifice in the short to medium term.  But surrender/capitulation to a psychotic despot is not an option.

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7 hours ago, Gourmand said:

Sam Seder is a national treasure. I've been a huge fan of his since the Air America days and a subscriber at the Majority Report for years. He's the fucking GOAT of political commentary on YT. 

I watched some of it. I'd never heard of the man. I think he looks like a great introduction to politics and discourse. The format is entertaining which is required to hold attention. He argues well. The way he thinks is how things should operate in discussion about serious matters. Two thumbs up.

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7 hours ago, Gourmand said:

The fact those young idiots spent so much time whining about DEI without any sense of self-awareness in that room is just jaw-dropping amazing to me. The entire room was full of carefully culled stereotypes like an MTV Real World roundtable for GOP ding dongs. Hypocrisy is the literal lifeblood of Republican voters and loudmouth Trump supporters--I'm convinced they would spontaneously combust without it.

Real discouse heads toward a conclusion even if it's disagreement. The "republicans" shown and all over the place start from conclusion and move towards argument.

This is bad. I was told that. Now I must argue with people who are wrong about why it's bad. If they don't get it, that's on them because we all know it's bad.

Argument proof. Persuasion proof. It will, as many say here, take pain. They must keep touching the hot stove they worship until it's unbearable. Most will have to burn through flesh to the bone before it dawns on them that they do not have to keep burning their hands.

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Just now, RomaVicta said:

It will, as many say here, take pain. They must keep touching the hot stove the worship until it's unbearable. Most will have to burn through flesh to the bone before it dawns on them that they do not have to keep burning their hands.

It all comes down to this.

If you cannot convince someone with reason, the only path left is to convince them with pain.  And as stubbornly stupid as they are, it's going to take a LOT of pain.

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7 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Tax these fuckers on their wealth. They earn without declaring income.

Taxing them is the nicest of the options for what to do with them.

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4 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Naw man these people have only themselves to blame. It's not that they do no critical thinking, it's that they willfully wake up in the morning and allow themselves to be brainwashed by turning on Fox all day. My mother and father in law have that shit on all day, and then some radio show of its like if they are in the car. Consume consume consume. That's why when you argue with MAGA types, they always say "turn off the MSNBC/CNN". Every accusation is a confession.

You should always look at the root cause for why they chose the route they did. They were looking to validate the hatred they have for others and stumbled on right wing media which confirmed the thoughts they already had. We have to accept that about our loved ones. That's the glue of that community. Willful hatred.

At least with my family members it's not willful. They would not choose to be brainwashed.  They think Fox News is fair and balanced and accurate. They think NBC, NYT, CNN are liberal media and they are the ones who are spewing untruths.  I think they are prejudiced and racist, but that is because that's what they knew growing up and never questioned it enough to put it aside. Hell, I don't think they have the capacity to be introspective enough to know they harbor hate.  They would probably be shocked and hurt by the accusation.  No one is doing anything to disabuse them of their wrongful thinking.  There are a few family members, maybe 15% who know better, but none of us want to risk our relationships by trying to show them the error of their ways.

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1 minute ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

 

Kind of ironic that liberals are Elon's main customers.  Now, he needs conservatives to *gasp* buy EVs

 

Me. With my VW:

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2 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

JFC. we are absolutely going to end up in a shooting war with Canada. 

Look at the positives.  With Canada our 51st state I can finally buy property in Banff without being a Canadian citizen.  Then again, with Banff being part of the US we will probably turn it into Branson north and destroy why it's so great.  Then again, maple syrup may be cheaper in the future.  See, think positive!

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2 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Look at the positives.  With Canada our 51st state I can finally buy property in Banff without being a Canadian citizen.  Then again, with Banff being part of the US we will probably turn it into Branson north and destroy why it's so great.  Then again, maple syrup may be cheaper in the future.  See, think positive!

Sweet Breakfast is Trash.  Be a fucking man and order the Biscuits and Gravy. 

 

My wife who is from Montana says the Canadian side of the border is very pretty, tho. 

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2 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Look at the positives.  With Canada our 51st state I can finally buy property in Banff without being a Canadian citizen.  Then again, with Banff being part of the US we will probably turn it into Branson north and destroy why it's so great.  Then again, maple syrup may be cheaper in the future.  See, think positive!

I AM thinking positive.  Think of it this way: in the coming war of US v. Canada, you can think of it negatively (a US war of conquest against Canada) or positively (a Canadian war of liberation for the US).

I'll be just fine living in the Canadian-occupied US.  We'll need some global help with reconstruction (a new Marshall plan), that sort of stuff.  I'll happily work to assist those efforts in conjunction with our liberators.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

I'll be just fine living in the Canadian-occupied US. 

 

Maybe we will finally get healthcare.

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1 minute ago, Bateshorn said:

Sweet Breakfast is Trash.  Be a fucking man and order the Biscuits and Gravy. 

A real man eats the biscuits and gravy with a side of pancakes/waffles and maple syrup.  Not the real maple syrup but the high fructose corn syrup maple flavored syrup because it tastes better!  Oh, and don't forget the sausage and bacon on the sides.  I would have said eggs also but I would have to take out a second mortgage on my house to be able to afford eggs at this point.

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1 minute ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

A real man eats the biscuits and gravy with a side of pancakes/waffles and maple syrup.  Not the real maple syrup but the high fructose corn syrup maple flavored syrup because it tastes better!  Oh, and don't forget the sausage and bacon on the sides.  I would have said eggs also but I would have to take out a second mortgage on my house to be able to afford eggs at this point.

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1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

Saw a poll this morning asking Americans about Trump, Canada, and Mexico. There was actually a positive view of how the U.S. is handling Canada. Jesus, I can’t believe how stupid Americans are. 

It's infuriating, but the thing to keep in mind is that these polls are essentially lagging indicators, because the majority of those polled don't pay much (if any) attention and have no idea what's going on yet.  There's no constituency outside of Trump's really rabid base of support for a trade war (or an actual shooting war) with Canada. That might change as he escalates shit and really ramps up the propaganda to support an invasion, but I doubt it. 

He really should have started with Mexico. The American people would've been a lot more likely to tolerate this shit with them. 

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37 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I watched some of it. I'd never heard of the man. I think he looks like a great introduction to politics and discourse. The format is entertaining which is required to hold attention. He argues well. The way he thinks is how things should operate in discussion about serious matters. Two thumbs up.

He's famous in my part of the world wide web for the way he dismantles libertarian callers. Some great content on that topic on TMR's youtube page. Live show just started btw. Like and subscribe, it's a very informative source for news and politics.

https://www.youtube.com/@TheMajorityReport

 

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I'm honestly stunned that someone who's been pretty politically engaged for decades hasn't heard of Sam. He's not Dan Rather or anything, but he's very well known on the left. 

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5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

He really should have started with Mexico. The American people would've been a lot more likely to tolerate this shit with them. 

He went with who he assumed would be the bigger pushover. Plus, he wants to add white English speaking people to the US, not brown people that he can’t understand. 

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19 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

At least with my family members it's not willful. They would not choose to be brainwashed.  They think Fox News is fair and balanced and accurate. They think NBC, NYT, CNN are liberal media and they are the ones who are spewing untruths.  I think they are prejudiced and racist, but that is because that's what they knew growing up and never questioned it enough to put it aside. Hell, I don't think they have the capacity to be introspective enough to know they harbor hate.  They would probably be shocked and hurt by the accusation.  No one is doing anything to disabuse them of their wrongful thinking.  There are a few family members, maybe 15% who know better, but none of us want to risk our relationships by trying to show them the error of their ways.

The Socratic Method is kryptonite to Republicans that still support Trump as it just exposes how little they know and when pressed to answer questions, they typically get emotional and let their masks slip off.

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Just now, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Honda Fit liberal here.  

I can fit four dead wild hogs in the back with the seats down.

Tesla liberal here but my wife really wants me to get rid of it based on the politics of Elon and not the car.  Been looking at Lucid's way too much the last week.

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

He went with who he assumed would be the bigger pushover. Plus, he wants to add white English speaking people to the US, not brown people that he can’t understand

Yeah, that's pretty obviously it. 

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I don't know what the prospects of war with Canada are. It sounds so strange.

Lifted out of the rational world and considering the malign idiot running our country, I can imagine Trump thinking that everybody in the US unites when we attack somebody. Usually we do so with an absurd fairy tale of how we're actually defending ourselves. Afghanistan is the only exeception that I can think of.

Trump cannot be expected to have any notion of what war is actually like. He ran away from it as a young man and has neither the curiosity or imagination to visualize it. He's one of the idiots who thinks, "neato!" watching the tanks roll. He'll get to watch all the best battle footage. Vicarious thrills and bravery!

If any other president spoke like this in the past, we would question his sanity. Plans to erase the Palistinians to build a resort is lunacy. His abuse of power is manifest in his moves against government and persons he resents. He feels nothing doing so. He's sociopathic.

I can certainly believe that Trump has images in his head that make attacking Canada seem like a glorious plan of action. I just can't see anyone carrying it out. I guess maybe he could keep firing generals until he finds the right psychotic, but the whole chain of command would presumably be revolted at the idea.

Sorry to muse at such length. I'm taken wholly by surprise that so many of you conclude this is very possible. Can't get my head around it.

I'm rooting for a junta. Strange days.

15 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Also....petition to change the thread title from "Trump's America" to "Trump v. America."

Apt.

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14 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

He went with who he assumed would be the bigger pushover. Plus, he wants to add white English speaking people to the US, not brown people that he can’t understand. 

Este. He hates Trudeau and thinks of them as pushovers.  Those of us who actually know Canadians know that beneath that very pleasant demeanor, they are fucking nails.  Also:

r/HistoryMemes - a dog and a dog with a flag on it

Those guys can get their war and genocide on. 

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