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When you have ran out of ideas.  I mean, we all know he ran out years ago, but still.
 
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Nothing bad has ever happened under Trump.

Is there any doubt that if he hadn’t been president in 2020, he’d be saying “Covid never would have happened with me as president!”.
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6 minutes ago, Red Five said:


Nothing bad has ever happened under Trump.

Is there any doubt that if he hadn’t been president in 2020, he’d be saying “Covid never would have happened with me as president!”.

He did run the first time on being able to shoot somebody. The second time he hired the taint of the Kennedy family to potentially kill millions. He’s openly said he could do whatever he wanted to and mostly has, and with a get out of jail free card. How many ways can he say he doesn’t give a shit about Americans? 

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18 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Fuck this government.

I mean, how will a shutdown really make things worse?  It's one of the few opportunities the Dems will have until at least the midterms to flex what little muscle they have.  Sure, Donald will blame the shutdown on the libs like he does for everything else, so who gives a fuck this time?

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50 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Is there any doubt that if he hadn’t been president in 2020, he’d be saying “Covid never would have happened with me as president!”.

I'm surprised he didn't say it anyway.  

I've seen MAGAts blame Obama for being asleep at the switch on 9/11.  2001.  Obama.  This country is fucked.

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30 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I mean, how will a shutdown really make things worse?  It's one of the few opportunities the Dems will have until at least the midterms to flex what little muscle they have.  Sure, Donald will blame the shutdown on the libs like he does for everything else, so who gives a fuck this time?

Being the grownups in the room hasn't gotten them anywhere, time to respond in kind and be the party of no, like the others have been for so long.

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

So instead of consulting with global public health partners and independent advisors we got an in-house decision from the bureaucracy from behind closed doors? I’m glad a recommendation was made in time but this seems like pretty bad process 

 

Lulz. It’s ok, you don’t understand how this specific process has worked, or more generally how the adcom process works. I told y'all the strains were already selected with the FDA and CDCs involvement.you are correct that there are lots bad processes at the FDA. I thought that this had become obvious to most during the COVID period, but maybe not. 

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13 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

I appreciate your response. And I wasn’t under the delusion that DOGE relies on federal funding. Rather, I wonder DOGE’s actions during a government shutdown would degrade the weight that the sanction provided by the executive carries in the eyes of the court.

Robert Reich yesterday said the Dems have really no choice other than to let the government shut down.

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Friends,

On Tuesday the House passed legislation to fund the government through September 30 and thereby avert a shutdown at the end of this week.

The measure now goes to the Senate, where Democrats must decide whether to support it and thereby hand Trump and Musk a blank check to continue their assault on the federal government.

The House bill would keep last year’s spending levels largely flat but would increase spending for the military by $6 billion and cut more than $1 billion from the District of Columbia’s budget.

In normal times, I recommend that Democrats vote for continuing budget resolutions because Democrats support the vital services that the government provides to the American people: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, veterans services, education, the Food and Drug Administration, environmental protection, and much else.

In normal times, Democrats want to keep the government open.

In normal times, Democrats would be wrong to vote against a continuing resolution that caused the government to shut down.

But these are not normal times.

The president of the United States and the richest person in the world are already shutting the government down. They have effectively closed USAID and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. They have sent half the personnel of the Department of Education packing. They are eliminating Environmental Protection Agency offices responsible for addressing high levels of pollution facing poor communities.

They are usurping from Congress the power of the purse — the power to decide what services are to be funded and received by the American people — and are arrogating that power to themselves.

In 1996, when I was in Bill Clinton’s Cabinet, we opposed Newt Gingrich’s budget bullying. We also understood that Gingrich’s demands would seriously cripple the federal government. So Bill Clinton refused to go along with Gingrich’s budget resolution, and the government was shuttered for four long painful weeks.

Today’s situation is far worse. Trump and Musk aren’t just making demands that would cripple the federal government. They are directly crippling the federal government.

Why should any member of Congress vote in favor of a continuing resolution to fund government services that are no longer continuing?

Why should any member of Congress vote to give Trump and Musk a trillion dollars and then let them decide how to spend it — or not spend it?

Why should Congress give Trump and Musk a blank check to continue their pillage?

The real choice congressional Democrats face today is not between a continuing resolution that allows the government to function normally or a government shutdown. Under Trump and Musk, the government is not functioning normally. It is not continuing. It is already shutting down.

Today’s real choice is between a continuing resolution that gives Trump and Musk free rein to decide what government services they want to continue and what services they want to shut down — or demanding that Trump and Musk stop usurping the power of Congress, as a condition for keeping the government funded.

Trump, Musk, and the rest of their regime have made it clear that they don’t care what Congress or the courts say. They are acting unconstitutionally. They are actively destroying our system of government.

The spineless Republicans will not say this publicly. So Democrats must — and Democrats must insist on budget language that holds Trump and Musk accountable.

The House’s Republican-drafted budget resolution isn’t contingent on Trump observing existing laws. It does not instruct the president to stop Musk from riding roughshod over the federal government. It doesn’t tell the president and his Cabinet to spend the money Congress intended to be spent.

Members of Trump’s team are already saying that if a continuing resolution is passed, they will not observe laws that Congress has enacted and will not spend funds that Congress has authorized and appropriated. Marco Rubio, for example, says that even if the State Department is fully funded, he will void 83 percent of the contracts authorized for USAID.

Senate Democrats are needed to obtain the 60 votes necessary to pass the House’s continuing budget resolution through the Senate. But there is no point in Democrats voting to fund the government only to let Trump and Musk do whatever they see fit with those funds.

Senate Democrats have an opportunity to stop Trump and Musk from their illegal and unconstitutional shutting of the government. Democrats should say they’ll vote for the continuing budget resolution to keep the government going only if Trump agrees to abide by the law and keep the government going — fully funding the services that Congress intends to be fully funded and stopping the pillaging.

If Democrats set out this condition clearly but Trump won’t agree, the consequences will be on Trump and the Republicans. They run the government now. They are the ones who are engaging in, or are complicit in, the wanton destruction now taking place.

This is an opportunity for the public to learn what Trump and Musk are doing, and why it’s illegal and unconstitutional.

In 1996, when Bill Clinton refused to go along with Newt Gingrich’s plan to cripple the federal government, causing the government to shut down for a month, Clinton wasn’t blamed. Gingrich was blamed.

If you live in a state with a Democratic senator, please phone them right now and tell them not to vote for the continuing resolution that gives Trump and Musk free rein to continue shutting the government.

The Capitol switchboard is 202-224-3121.

A switchboard operator will connect you directly with the Senate office you request.

 

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I was really surprised when it was announced they were doing away with pronouns (they/them) on personal profiles / badges at work. Didn't make 2 shits to me personally because I never opted in, but I know several people that did. I work at one of the Big 4 and they are very inclusive. Them taking a step back was a shock. Can't help but wonder what's coming next.

Also glad I don't have any money in stocks or crypto right now.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Sounds like GOP congressman Chuck Edwards (NC-Asheville) held a town hall meeting last night and got lit up like a Christmas tree!

https://www.mediaite.com/news/house-republican-torched-by-furious-constituents-as-town-hall-goes-off-the-rails-fck-you/

 

I hope my lesbian cousin, who's a women's coach living in aSheville (yes, she's living the stereotype), was in attendance kicking some ass, too.

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unfucking real. anyone that supports or cheers this needs a 2+2 pill asap to the head ....

The Arlington National Cemetery website "scrubbed dozens of pages on gravesites and educational materials that include histories of prominent Black, Hispanic, and female service members buried in the cemetery" to meet Trump/Hegseth orders, via @PJMatt

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/arlington-cemetery-scrubs-website-dei/

 

a fuckign draft dodger leading all this 

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1 hour ago, South Austin said:

I mean, how will a shutdown really make things worse?  It's one of the few opportunities the Dems will have until at least the midterms to flex what little muscle they have.  Sure, Donald will blame the shutdown on the libs like he does for everything else, so who gives a fuck this time?

Trump and Musk won’t shut down. 

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If or when we pressure Greenland to join us, how would that be any different than if Russia pressured Finland to join Russia for national security reasons? Or pull Estonia back into Russia (obviously the Soviet Union but the same thing.)

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1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Trump and Musk won’t shut down. 

saw a blurb yesterday that musk would use a shutdown to basically nuke very large groups of govt employees 

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30 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Sounds like GOP congressman Chuck Edwards (NC-Asheville) held a town hall meeting last night and got lit up like a Christmas tree!

https://www.mediaite.com/news/house-republican-torched-by-furious-constituents-as-town-hall-goes-off-the-rails-fck-you/

 

Less reported but Edwards was asked why it was ok that the VA or other agencies are firing 20% of their workers but Edwards is keeping his full staff. Edwards' reply was that he needed his team of 15 to fully support his district.

Obviously it doesn't take an intelligent person to identify the flaw in his logic that maybe just maybe the agencies also need most of their staff as well.

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3 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Less reported but Edwards was asked why it was ok that the VA or other agencies are firing 20% of their workers but Edwards is keeping his full staff. Edwards' reply was that he needed his team of 15 to fully support his district.

Obviously it doesn't take an intelligent person to identify the flaw in his logic that maybe just maybe the agencies also need most of their staff as well.

Well, it doesn't sound like he or his team of 15 are even attempting to support his district. Fuck'em.

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See, he needs 15 cuz another rep has 14, and they made fun of him when he only had 13.

The size of these staffs are funny. We have entire embassies with less people than on a staff. The number of US Government officials in a country can triple when a congressional delegation comes to visit.

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28 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I hope my lesbian cousin, who's a women's coach living in aSheville (yes, she's living the stereotype), was in attendance kicking some ass, too.

NC has some real fucked up gerrymandering because Asheville is not a place I’d pick to go red. 

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6 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

The size of these staffs are funny. We have entire embassies with less people than on a staff. The number of US Government officials in a country can triple when a congressional delegation comes to visit.

given that the district is comprised of 750K constituents, I think 15 is ridiculously small. Take out the staff that do not deal directly with the public, and you probably have 5-7 people who help constituents with questions or problems. No wonder none of feel any connection to our congress member.

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4 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Charles Pierce of Esquire magazine:

 

What lady is he talking about (he has unfairly and nastily riducled too many to narrow it down, unfortunately)?

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1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

given that the district is comprised of 750K constituents, I think 15 is ridiculously small. Take out the staff that do not deal directly with the public, and you probably have 5-7 people who help constituents with questions or problems. No wonder none of feel any connection to our congress member.

I stand corrected. I should have said DC based staff. Local staff are critical and probably not enough. As long as they are real people and not some third cousin on an internship.

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What lady is he talking about (he has unfairly and nastily riducled too many to narrow it down, unfortunately)?

Probably E. Jean Carroll.
NC has some real fucked up gerrymandering because Asheville is not a place I’d pick to go red. 

Was thinking the same thing.
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Posted
1 minute ago, South Austin said:

I wasn't an economics major, but seems like balancing the budget, then wiping out tax revenue from a huge portion of the country's population, might result in an unbalanced budget.  

Tariffs will make up for it, duh. And the top of the end of earners in this country already don’t pay taxes, might as well let some on the lower end get in on the action.

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Unsurprising, I guess, but Howard is proving to be a complete shill.

I suppose so. He called the Dotard tariffs “the most important thing America has ever had”.
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1 hour ago, RPM said:

I was really surprised when it was announced they were doing away with pronouns (they/them) on personal profiles / badges at work. Didn't make 2 shits to me personally because I never opted in, but I know several people that did. I work at one of the Big 4 and they are very inclusive. Them taking a step back was a shock. Can't help but wonder what's coming next.

Also glad I don't have any money in stocks or crypto right now.

We were given the option to at work as well. I didn't do it, others did. Some people felt really passionate about it, so great. I think it was mostly a generational thing, but not exclusively.

I don't feel the need to belittle it or cause pain to others by taking it away. I don't get why others feel the need to or even feel delight in it.

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15 minutes ago, Red Five said:


I suppose so. He called the Dotard tariffs “the most important thing America has ever had”.

And said prices would reduce under them.

And, I'll say it again, if tariffs are truly effective -- stopping US "dependence" on imports -- collection of them will dwindle to nothing.

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

And said prices would reduce under them.

And, I'll say it again, if tariffs are truly effective -- stopping US "dependence" on imports -- collection of them will dwindle to nothing.

No, see, they're Schrodinger's tariffs: simultaneously 1) generating trillions in revenue, because trillions in foreign goods will keep flowing into the US, thus providing a revenue stream that will replace all taxes on Americans, just as Trump promised, while also 2) causing the flow of foreign goods to STOP coming into the country, thus immediately boosting American manufacturing etc. so we will become the manufacturing economy we were in the 1950s.  Both a massive inflow of goods, and no inflow of goods....happening at the same time.  That's the Trump economic miracle!

And we have fucking morons around here who still think that's great, although they insist that "they don't support Trump."  FFS, they engage in magical thinking of the impossible.

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46 minutes ago, C-Man said:

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Shumer is actually voting to give trump and musk money to continue destroying the government? 

It's starting to get to the point that Democrats not doing the obvious thing and drilling these assholes publicly for the shit they're doing means they're secretly ok with it all happening. They aren't poor. They aren't losing their jobs. Their kids go to private schools too. 

Not rising up as a voice for the American people at this time means they just flat out don't want the responsibility of following through on promising to help the American people. 

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If we eliminate federal income tax because tariffs are covering the bills, but the increased prices due to tariffs are being paid by the people, isn’t it just a shell game?  
how are the rich going to avoid what is essentially a sales or consumption tax, when income tax creativity isn’t available to them?

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