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2 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

This is clearly another "asylum" scenario.  Dumbshit doesn't realize that the "MS13" in the pic was supposed to be the "decoding" of the actual tattoos (haven't heard if they are actually legit), and nobody has the nerve to tell him. Honestly, I don't think it hurts for Moran to get him on record explaining in detail that he is, in fact, that stupid ...

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The interviewer completely messed up as a journalist but at least he let Trump dig himself a hole. There is no way he can now say he was saying anything else. He will, but it may actually be poorly seen by the US people. The question is whether or not the prisoner is now being held down and being given tattoos. 

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Absolutely wrong. In Maga-land, "Trump owned him and the interviewer was obviously uncomfortable and didn't want to admit he was full of shit." Look, you're never going to get anywhere with the base and base-adjacent by saying "agree to disagree, let's move on"  FFS it's only embarrassing if you already find Trump to be an embarrassment, otherwise it's an abject failure to not directly call out his bullshit and insist on the truth 

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24 minutes ago, speed817 said:

Looks legit to me!!!!

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So.

M(marijuana) S(smiley, sorta) 1(cross?) and 3(skull?) 

I'm gonna have to hear some testimony on how that lines up.  Probably backed up by some other examples.  I suspect thats a load of shit.

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

This guy is a fucking terrible journalist. Why doesn't he call him a fucking retard and say that there was never any tatoos that said ms-13 on his fucking hands. 

He should have said, "Bring him back to the US and we'll both take a look together."

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32 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So.

M(marijuana) S(smiley, sorta) 1(cross?) and 3(skull?) 

I'm gonna have to hear some testimony on how that lines up.  Probably backed up by some other examples.  I suspect thats a load of shit.

 

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2 hours ago, immamac said:

This guy is a fucking terrible journalist. Why doesn't he call him a fucking retard and say that there was never any tatoos that said ms-13 on his fucking hands. 

fucking exactly

they are all scared of something we don't know

Probably russian nra republican money i mean whatever I dunno

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2 hours ago, immamac said:

Yeah he should have stood his ground and said there were not and have never been any tattoos like that on his hands. It's completely false. 

now let's all entertain a fun intellectual exercise amd wonder why he might not have done that

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15 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

To the cult, every negative consequence of Trump's regime is the result of a conspiracy by his enemies.

Europe doesn't like us. Canada doesn't like us. Most of Africa would shoot us into the sun due to Elon if given the chance.

Bob in Idaho this is all your fault for not being more patriotic and sending money to your favorite president!

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2 hours ago, Bullneck said:

He should have said, "Bring him back to the US and we'll both take a look together."

In that scenario there is no way they don't actually have him get those tattoos in El Salvador before he returns. Evidence issue solved for TFG. Now he can just drop him off at the Mexican border and say case closed.

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


There’s no “probably” about it. Trump insisted - FUCKING REPEATEDLY - in the interview that it ACTUALLY SAID “MS-13.”
His brain is fucking deconstructed jello.
Seriously, the fucking assholes who voted for him yelled that Biden was mentally gone, yet Biden never said anything remotely that absolutely brain-dead stupid.
He’s one of the dumbest people in the United States. Not one of the dumbest officials, or the dumbest POTUS we’ve ever had…he’s genuinely in the bottom quartile of all Americans.

He really is in his own class of stupid. Wharton should lose its accreditation just because of Trump. He obviously bought his degree with daddy's money. 

By the way, how the fuck is a skull a 3?

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2 hours ago, Hookah Horns said:

Yeah, not that difficult to imagine how the rest of that would've gone. 

Trump is an impossible interview because he doesn't live in reality, believes he can shape reality (and actually does for millions of people all around us), and has exactly zero decency, self-awareness or capacity for shame. 

This. 

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After reading the comments to the tweetthing (what do we call those?) I'm sure the journo felt he had more important and subtle points to make with Trump than that quite obvious piece of Trumpian bullshit.  And he wound up letting him make a fool of himself anyway.

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6 hours ago, Bullneck said:

He should have said, "Bring him back to the US and we'll both take a look together."

Probably a good way to see the tattoos added. On a corpse. 

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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

After reading the comments to the tweetthing (what do we call those?) I'm sure the journo felt he had more important and subtle points to make with Trump than that quite obvious piece of Trumpian bullshit.  And he wound up letting him make a fool of himself anyway.

I get this point of view but I cannot disagree more that moving on to a different topic was the correct move.  Whatever the next set of questions may be, trump is going to lie in his answer.  He will lie, the interviewer will *politely* try to call him out, he'll say something like "this is why your industry is dying, because you're so dishonest and unfair", rinse and repeat.  Nothing is gained by interviewing a habitual liar when you're not prepared to plant a flag on a specific issue and call him a fucking liar to his face.

This absurd ms13 question was a chance to catch him in a lie in real time, and actually have him react to being caught.  Like, how simple would it have been to take a picture of your own fist and add the text on your iphone right in front of him?  At worst, he would realize that the nazi cuntbag stephen miller lied to him about the actual tattoo.  I dunno... seems like a huge missed opportunity to be a journalist with a fucking spine for once..

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What a pathetic performance by that ABC journalist. You have one shot at meeting/talking to him and just cower the minute Trump starts getting aggressive. Can't get over how spineless people have become. 

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5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

What a pathetic performance by that ABC journalist. You have one shot at meeting/talking to him and just cower the minute Trump starts getting aggressive. Can't get over how spineless people have become. 

Easy for us to say. He’s got a lucrative gig, and is a player in the industry. He loses all that within minutes if he’d done the right thing. 

And nothing would’ve changed. 

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Just now, softlynow said:

Easy for us to say. He’s got a lucrative gig, and is a player in the industry. He loses all that within minutes if he’d done the right thing. 

And nothing would’ve changed. 

"Nice little career you have there. Be a real shame if something happened to it." 

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11 hours ago, immamac said:

Yeah he should have stood his ground and said there were not and have never been any tattoos like that on his hands. It's completely false. 

And now you understand why trump has been attacking the media and threatening them so much. He wants them scared and thinking twice before they ask an actual question or seriously challenge their talking points.

The more absurd and outrageous the talking point, the better. It's an bully expression of power to make people repeat things they know aren't true.

Check out Orwell's 1984 for further ideas on the concept.

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14 hours ago, Bullneck said:

 

14 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The modern GQP very, very much wants to tell ALL "not real Americans" (y'all know who we're talking about) "hey, be happy we treat you as 60% of a person. You're lucky to get that much from us, your lords and masters."  I'd say they just aren't saying it out loud....but they pretty much are.

 

12 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

No, it was a terrible move. It should have been zero. Giving the slave states extra reps for their human trafficking victims did not help the end of slavery. Idiot. If we give the slave states more power, surely slavery will end faster!!!111

The North gave that one up and got nothing in return. 

Every time this discussion comes up it just makes me sad how many of our citizens can only think in sound bites and can’t look deeper into historical occurrences. Enslaved people weren't 3/5 of a person, they were not persons at all under the Constitution, they were chattel, personal property. The fact that they had no vote for said representatives means they should have been counted as zero. What it did was to give white people in southern slave states an additional 3/5 representation for each enslaved person in the state. The reality is that it provided a hell of an incentive to import more enslaved persons in the 20 years the slave trade was allowed to continue. It’s called a “compromise” because the union might not have formed if the South stuck to their guns and just stayed independent.

The overriding discussion is that a union founded on such inequities is tainted from the outset. That’s the part the racist right hates so they twist it as a good thing, because the southern whites didn’t get a full count for each enslaved persons, but again, it should have been zero, the compromise gave the southern slave states way more representation in the House of Representatives than they deserved, and in fact prolonged slavery for decades leading to the civil war, which was primarily about…wait for it…slavery.

https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/2025/04/28/a-great-move-or-revisionist-history-indianas-beckwith-sparks-three-fifths-compromise-debate/

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Now we wait for Ana or Swam to come in and say I’m the real racist for saying enslaved persons should have been counted as zero and not 3/5.

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37 minutes ago, softlynow said:

Easy for us to say. He’s got a lucrative gig, and is a player in the industry. He loses all that within minutes if he’d done the right thing. 

And nothing would’ve changed. 

If ABC fires him for confronting the President of the United States about an indisputable fact, let's just pack it up and go home. This shit's over.

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11 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

If ABC fires him for confronting the President of the United States about an indisputable fact, let's just pack it up and go home. This shit's over.

Amigo.  Dude.  It's been over for a while now.

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18 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

If ABC fires him for confronting the President of the United States about an indisputable fact, let's just pack it up and go home. This shit's over.

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55 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

 

Every time this discussion comes up it just makes me sad how many of our citizens can only think in sound bites and can’t look deeper into historical occurrences. Enslaved people weren't 3/5 of a person, they were not persons at all under the Constitution, they were chattel, personal property. The fact that they had no vote for said representatives means they should have been counted as zero. What it did was to give white people in southern slave states an additional 3/5 representation for each enslaved person in the state. The reality is that it provided a hell of an incentive to import more enslaved persons in the 20 years the slave trade was allowed to continue. It’s called a “compromise” because the union might not have formed if the South stuck to their guns and just stayed independent.

The overriding discussion is that a union founded on such inequities is tainted from the outset. That’s the part the racist right hates so they twist it as a good thing, because the southern whites didn’t get a full count for each enslaved persons, but again, it should have been zero, the compromise gave the southern slave states way more representation in the House of Representatives than they deserved, and in fact prolonged slavery for decades leading to the civil war, which was primarily about…wait for it…slavery.

https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/2025/04/28/a-great-move-or-revisionist-history-indianas-beckwith-sparks-three-fifths-compromise-debate/

In slavery 2.0, will it be based on economic status rather than race?  NGL, I would probably buy a couple of MAGAts to tend to my fields if the price was right (and I had fields to tend) just for the lulz.

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12 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


There’s no “probably” about it. Trump insisted - FUCKING REPEATEDLY - in the interview that it ACTUALLY SAID “MS-13.”
His brain is fucking deconstructed jello.
Seriously, the fucking assholes who voted for him yelled that Biden was mentally gone, yet Biden never said anything remotely that absolutely brain-dead stupid.
He’s one of the dumbest people in the United States. Not one of the dumbest officials, or the dumbest POTUS we’ve ever had…he’s genuinely in the bottom quartile of all Americans.

this level of negative intelligence is the best counter-evidence to the conjecture that he has the combover to conceal the mark of the antichrist

the devil would not send someone this stupid to bring down the world, right?

right?

what time is nazi barbie today?

Posted
12 hours ago, Gap03 said:

This is clearly another "asylum" scenario.  Dumbshit doesn't realize that the "MS13" in the pic was supposed to be the "decoding" of the actual tattoos (haven't heard if they are actually legit), and nobody has the nerve to tell him. Honestly, I don't think it hurts for Moran to get him on record explaining in detail that he is, in fact, that stupid ...

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He could have a piece covering his entire chest that had an arrow pointing up saying this guy is MS13. If dude doesn't have any gang related convictions or and criminal convictions it shouldn't matter. Imprisoning people because of tattoos is completely out of bounds. We have tons of US citizens who have gang related tattoos, some that don't even know they are gang related. We could imprison a qtr of the US if we are going to start doing that.

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Remember in Trump's America we (the people who post here) still have lots to be grateful for.  We just have to not let that awareness not lead to complacency or just cynicism and we need to channel it into whatever action we can muster on behalf of those in this country (and out) who are victims of the chaos. 

Message more for me than you, I reckon.

Posted
1 hour ago, Todd Gack said:

I get this point of view but I cannot disagree more that moving on to a different topic was the correct move.  Whatever the next set of questions may be, trump is going to lie in his answer.  He will lie, the interviewer will *politely* try to call him out, he'll say something like "this is why your industry is dying, because you're so dishonest and unfair", rinse and repeat.  Nothing is gained by interviewing a habitual liar when you're not prepared to plant a flag on a specific issue and call him a fucking liar to his face.

This absurd ms13 question was a chance to catch him in a lie in real time, and actually have him react to being caught.  Like, how simple would it have been to take a picture of your own fist and add the text on your iphone right in front of him?  At worst, he would realize that the nazi cuntbag stephen miller lied to him about the actual tattoo.  I dunno... seems like a huge missed opportunity to be a journalist with a fucking spine for once..

I submit that he was caught in the lie.  He was never ever going to admit that the "MS13" was added to the photo.

But, you're probably right that he was going to lie in a similar baldfaced fashion for every other topic.

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3 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Remember in Trump's America we (the people who post here) still have lots to be grateful for. 

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Everything is eroding. Everything. 

 

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13 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

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Everything is eroding. Everything. 

 

"Remember, those of us who have first-class tickets on the Titanic did not die in the immediate flooding of the lower decks, and we had some really nice cocktails in the lounge.  So, we have lots to be grateful for and should relax, we'll be fine."

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2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

What a pathetic performance by that ABC journalist. You have one shot at meeting/talking to him and just cower the minute Trump starts getting aggressive. Can't get over how spineless people have become. 

I mean his name is Moran

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At this point it's almost impossible to argue with a true believer that a photo has been altered, either by addition or subtraction.  We could all see this coming decades ago as Photoshop started to explode.

I assume there are ways to run a photo through an app to highlight the alterations, but I wouldn't know how to do it.  Regardless, it simply wouldn't matter.  "Fake news."



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