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1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

But it didn't. There were clergy in the military ranks. I won't bring up Gott mit Uns on SS belt buckles and such.

There are also Muslims in the US military ranks.  would it be appropriate to say the US military is build on a foundation of Islam?

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5 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Fascists pick favorites to run private industry in a way that benefits the state. Where do you get the idea anyone is seriously reducing the federal budget?

our loss of global influence is proof Putin is directing foreign policy. That has nothing to do with whether trump is a fascist authoritarian 

Fascists believe in private industry?   Interesting..so in your world, fascists believe in outsourcing government functions?   Can you name any examples of that in history?

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

There are also Muslims in the US military ranks.  would it be appropriate to say the US military is build on a foundation of Islam?

Yeah, fuck off.

How the fuck do these newbies get into the CR sooooo fast???? 

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Just now, InkaUtexas said:

Yeah, fuck off.

How the fuck do these newbies get into the CR sooooo fast???? 

Ah, so anybody who questions you to think about, or re-evaluate a position of yours should f--k off?  Very intelligent

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

Fascists believe in private industry?   Interesting..so in your world, fascists believe in outsourcing government functions?   Can you name any examples of that in history?

manufacture and delivery of Zyklon B.

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

Fascists believe in private industry?   Interesting..so in your world, fascists believe in outsourcing government functions?   Can you name any examples of that in history?

You’re not going to be here long enough to bother with but think about Hitler’s Germany and what corporations and their leaders were cozy with him. Maybe it will make sense to one of your future handles 

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4 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

ah, the spell check police.    Always the most convincing person in the room.

If you really wanted to stick around, you wouldn't be such a cock.

But I suspect you never wanted to stick around.

You must be fun at parties.

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5 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

ah, the spell check police.    Always the most convincing person in the room.

You know if you honestly engaged instead of trolling and “just asking questions” you might not be getting negged into oblivion. 

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

Ah, so anybody who questions you to think about, or re-evaluate a position of yours should f--k off?  Very intelligent

Yeah. Fuck  off bitchy ass. That better? Your feeling hurt? awwwww...

Just now, cactusflinthead said:

Keep talking jackass. 25 more to get 

on 25? Let me see...

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Just now, Sawbonz said:

You’re not going to be here long enough to bother with but think about Hitler’s Germany and what corporations and their leaders were cozy with him. Maybe it will make sense to one of your future handles 

Got it.  I know it's always been well known that Dictators like to outsource things to private corporations.   They also like to cede decisions to lower governmental levels too right?

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1 minute ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

If you really wanted to stick around, you wouldn't be such a cock.

But I suspect you never wanted to stick around.

You must be fun at parties.

I'm not a c-ck at all.  I haven't used foul language or name called.  It's obvious though the majority of folks here don't want to hear different perspectives.. They just want an echo chamber,

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2 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

Ah, so anybody who questions you to think about, or re-evaluate a position of yours should f--k off?  Very intelligent

You can say fuck shit piss cunt and all the bad words. Nobody gives a rat's ass. This ain't aggy around here.

So continue to fuck off 

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3 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

You know if you honestly engaged instead of trolling and “just asking questions” you might not be getting negged into oblivion. 

I found asking questions is the best way to learn.  wouldn't you agree?

Just now, cactusflinthead said:

You can say fuck shit piss cunt and all the bad words. Nobody gives a rat's ass. This ain't aggy around here.

So continue to fuck off 

very intelligent response.  

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

Got it.  I know it's always been well known that Dictators like to outsource things to private corporations.   They also like to cede decisions to lower governmental levels too right?

Dictators pick favorites. Which is what your Dear Leader is doing. He is not outsourcing anything to any private corporations. He is destroying civil service throughout the government so he can take complete control from the top  

 

Non morons see this clearly as it is so blatant 

 

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2 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

I'm not a c-ck at all.  I haven't used foul language or name called.  It's obvious though the majority of folks here don't want to hear different perspectives.. They just want an echo chamber,

We don’t want to hear stupid shit. Your perspective is different but it’s stupid and not based in reality. It is why you will soon be opening a new account 

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Just now, HOOKEM4 said:

You are not a serious person. Enjoy a new handle.

I'm pretty sure my positions, questions and arguments have all been serious.  Unless of course by serious you mean somebody that just doesn't agree with you?

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3 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

I found asking questions is the best way to learn.  wouldn't you agree?

So what have you learned here today?

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Just now, Sawbonz said:

We don’t want to hear stupid shit. Your perspective is different but it’s stupid and not based in reality. It is why you will soon be opening a new account 

Which reality am I ignoring?  Or is the cost of validation here screaming about Trump like your hair is on fire 24/7?   

Just now, Sawbonz said:

So what have you learned here today?

I've learned folks here suffer from a strong group think so far.

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

I'm pretty sure my positions, questions and arguments have all been serious.  Unless of course by serious you mean somebody that just doesn't agree with you?

You asked a question about industry. I gave you an example. Silence.

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Just now, InkaUtexas said:

You asked a question about industry. I gave you an example. Silence.

So your best example of a fascist government supporting the expansion of private industry is the purchasing of a weapon 80 years ago?   

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

I'm pretty sure my positions, questions and arguments have all been serious.  Unless of course by serious you mean somebody that just doesn't agree with you?

Again, you are not a serious person. You have no idea what anyone believes because you are not serious. You just "got it." Kindly and respectfully, fuck off.

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2 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

Which reality am I ignoring?  Or is the cost of validation here screaming about Trump like your hair is on fire 24/7?   

I've learned folks here suffer from a strong group think so far.

If you had paid attention you would have learned how trump is a fascist authoritarian wannabe dictator. But you are stupid, ignorant, or brainwashed. Maybe a little of each. 

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

So your best example of a fascist government supporting the expansion of private industry is the purchasing of a weapon 80 years ago?   

nope, just one. There are many others. Pick a fascist state.

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1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

nope, just one. There are many others. Pick a fascist state.

I don’t think he will even if he’s able

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1 minute ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Again, you are not a serious person. You have no idea what anyone believes because you are not serious. You just "got it." Kindly and respectfully, fuck off.

All i know is what I read here.  which has so far been just an overwhelming venom based towards republican voters (who most here label as stupid) and a labeling of the current administration as fascist even though they aren't particularly doing text book fascist things.  

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2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

nope, just one. There are many others. Pick a fascist state.

I think the test isn't for either of us to pick an historical fascist state, of which they were many.  I think the more relevant task would be to actually defend the labeling of the current administration as fascist. It seems like a reductive labeling...one used by somebody who's angry and not sure what else to call them to convey their anger?

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2 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

All i know is what I read here.  which has so far been just an overwhelming venom based towards republican voters (who most here label as stupid) and a labeling of the current administration as fascist even though they aren't particularly doing text book fascist things.  

This definition?

 

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

So your best example of a fascist government supporting the expansion of private industry is the purchasing of a weapon 80 years ago?   

A weapon. You just called Zyklon B a weapon?

You sick fuck.

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10 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Dictators pick favorites. Which is what your Dear Leader is doing. He is not outsourcing anything to any private corporations. He is destroying civil service throughout the government so he can take complete control from the top  

 

Non morons see this clearly as it is so blatant 

 

I think if you live in America he's your leader too.  And are you under the impression that every President since the beginning of this country hasn't picked favorites within industries?

 

Ah, so he's trying to shrink the government so he can then lead a reduced government..  Yup, that's what Dictators do..strive to lead a reduced government with less functions, smaller budgets, etc.

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1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

All i know is what I read here.  which has so far been just an overwhelming venom based towards republican voters (who most here label as stupid) and a labeling of the current administration as fascist even though they aren't particularly doing text book fascist things.  

What do you call letting an unelected unappointed CEO billionaire gut the agencies actively investigating his various enterprises, giving this individual the protected personal information of millions of Americans, allowing this individual to scuttle an executed multibillion dollar deal with a competitor of this individual and allowing one of his companies to take it over, and finally attempting to award this individual a 400 M contract to place armor on a fleet of vehicles another of his companies manufactures, when the initial agency request something that would cost a fraction of that?

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

so he's trying to shrink the government so he can then lead a reduced government..  Yup, that's what Dictators do..strive to lead a reduced government with less functions, smaller budgets, etc

He’s not trying to shrink the government you stupid motherfucker. Stop typing that

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Just now, Sawbonz said:

What do you call letting an unelected unappointed CEO billionaire gut the agencies actively investigating his various enterprises, giving this individual the protected personal information of millions of Americans, allowing this individual to scuttle an executed multibillion dollar deal with a competitor of this individual and allowing one of his companies to take it over, and finally attempting to award this individual a 400 M contract to place armor on a fleet of vehicles another of his companies manufactures, when the initial agency request something that would cost a fraction of that?

and you're under the impression that just in the last 6 weeks our government has started handing out sweetheart deals to their donors?      Interesting perspective.

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4 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

I think the test isn't for either of us to pick an historical fascist state, of which they were many.  I think the more relevant task would be to actually defend the labeling of the current administration as fascist. It seems like a reductive labeling...one used by somebody who's angry and not sure what else to call them to convey their anger?

@Sawbonz you called it.

Fuck this clown. 

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Just now, Sawbonz said:

He’s not trying to shrink the government you stupid motherfucker. Stop typing that

So he's trying to grow the government?    Didn't he pass all those evil tax cuts in his last administration?  So he was trying to grow the government by reducing their inbound revenue?   Interesting tactic.

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Just now, RockwallJim said:

and you're under the impression that just in the last 6 weeks our government has started handing out sweetheart deals to their donors?      Interesting perspective.

Are you shifting to whataboutism? At least be original with your stupidity 

 

and there is nothing comparable to what trump and musk are doing in our nation’s history. But there are some in nations on the other continents. Use your little brain to see if you can think of any

1 minute ago, RockwallJim said:

So he's trying to grow the government?    Didn't he pass all those evil tax cuts in his last administration?  So he was trying to grow the government by reducing their inbound revenue?   Interesting tactic.

Are you really this dumb?

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

If you had paid attention you would have learned how trump is a fascist authoritarian wannabe dictator. But you are stupid, ignorant, or brainwashed. Maybe a little of each. 

if that was the case, why did the majority of voters vote for him?

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Posted
2 hours ago, RockwallJim said:

I'll consider myself warned.   I've learned you can always tell when a person has nothing of consequence to add to the discussion if they do 1 of 3 things.. 1. grammar police, 2. swear, 3. ad hominem attacks.    Pardon the pun, but the 2025 trump card is when they label somebody a Nazi.  When they use that, it's because they have nothing more convincing to add.   

Well, let's examine this for a minute, just the "grammar police."  First off, this isn't grammar, it's word misusage.  This site has a long history of ragging word misusers.  See, for example:  idoit, meadoker, uphauling, french benefits, fewer, etc.

But what it tells me about you is that you're not a big reader.  You've heard of "tenets," but you thought it was "tenants," likely because you've never read about tenets.  Which is pretty consistent, very likely, with where you get your news.  Meaning, if you read it at all, it's in 140 character "sound" bites.

I am not a huge fan of labeling people like you Nazis.  But the historical parallels are really quite striking.  You seem to know that deep down, Hitler and some of the founders were enamored with Norse mythology and Aryans and stuff.  But the common-or-garden Nazi, the people that ultimately made it go, were mostly, a large mostly, nominally Christians, although clearly very poor ones.  And it was mostly Christians who harbored the rank anti-Semitism that he preyed upon to scapegoat for Germany's ills.  People that liked the economic "prosperity" he brought.

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Just now, Sawbonz said:

Are you shifting to whataboutism? At least be original with your stupidity 

 

and there is nothing comparable to what trump and musk are doing in our nation’s history. But there are some in nations on the other continents. Use your little brain to see if you can think of any

Nope, I'm not relying on whataboutism.  You're claiming there has been some seismic shift in the last 6 weeks of donor influence..My position is that there has not.  My position is that the donors to our government at the highest levels have all received sweetheart deals.  It seems your position is that this is a new occurrence that started 6 weeks ago 

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2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, let's examine this for a minute, just the "grammar police."  First off, this isn't grammar, it's word misusage.  This site has a long history of ragging word misusers.  See, for example:  idoit, meadoker, uphauling, french benefits, fewer, etc.

But what it tells me about you is that you're not a big reader.  You've heard of "tenets," but you thought it was "tenants," likely because you've never read about tenets.  Which is pretty consistent, very likely, with where you get your news.  Meaning, if you read it at all, it's in 140 character "sound" bites.

I am not a huge fan of labeling people like you Nazis.  But the historical parallels are really quite striking.  You seem to know that deep down, Hitler and some of the founders were enamored with Norse mythology and Aryans and stuff.  But the common-or-garden Nazi, the people that ultimately made it go, were mostly, a large mostly, nominally Christians, although clearly very poor ones.  And it was mostly Christians who harbored the rank anti-Semitism that he preyed upon to scapegoat for Germany's ills.  People that liked the economic "prosperity" he brought.

Is it possible that you hold such a strong hatred for the current administration that your judgement is clouded?

17 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Any chance SocratesJim can just answer a question w/o forming it as a question?

yes, ask a direct question I'll give a direct answer.

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, RockwallJim said:

Nope, I'm not relying on whataboutism.  You're claiming there has been some seismic shift in the last 6 weeks of donor influence..My position is that there has not.  My position is that the donors to our government at the highest levels have all received sweetheart deals.  It seems your position is that this is a new occurrence that started 6 weeks ago 

There has been an absolute seismic shift in donor influence. Objectively, and measurably. You are wanting us to accept a premise that is verifiably false. Like wanting to stipulate the sky is plaid. 
 

no donor has ever wielded the power Elon Musk currently does. That is irrefutable. You are really stupid, delusional, or a dishonest sack of shit

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