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In a brazen display of defiance, the Justice Department had filed papers less than two hours before the 5 p.m. start time of the hearing telling Judge James E. Boasberg there was no reason for the government’s lawyers to appear in court because they did not intend to provide him with any further information about the deportation flights. Those flights transported about 200 immigrants to El Salvador over the weekend.

 

From NYT
 

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The Justice Department just told  a federal judge to pound sand and his oral order is not enforceable.

We are in a complete totalitarian country now. They have voided all courts  

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-administration-presidency-03-17-25#cm8dgasje00213b6mj0qf4v2u?utm_medium=social&utm_source=blueskyCNN&utm_content=2025-03-17T19%3A59%3A06

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Remember how Biden insisted on inviting Trump to the White House, being all cordial, offering to help where he could, saying "welcome home!" to Dotard at the WH, riding over to the inauguration with him, etc? 

I want Biden to know that he did this, it was his fault he decided to become Neville Chamberlain, and that Hunter and his family have had their pardons revoked, I never seen a softer man in the face of fascism in human history.

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I want Biden to know that he did this, it was his fault he decided to become Neville Chamberlain, and that Hunter and his family have had their pardons revoked, I never seen a softer man in the face of fascism in human history.

Bullshit.
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12 minutes ago, linux said:

I want Biden to know that he did this, it was his fault he decided to become Neville Chamberlain, and that Hunter and his family have had their pardons revoked, I never seen a softer man in the face of fascism in human history.

ok, so we've heard the B-team argument. moving on.

Posted
9 minutes ago, linux said:

Joe Biden was our only hope, instead we got soft baby shit.

The fact the Joe Fucking Biden was our only hope says a lot more about our situation than you think. If that is true, then it was all futile anyway 

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24 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

We knew it already, but the Rule of Law is dead

Only for some people.  The rest of are probably still bound by laws 

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Just now, SubliminalHorn said:

The fact the Joe Fucking Biden was our only hope says a lot more about our situation than you think. If that is true, then it was all futile anyway 

Oh I know the situation is completely dire, but it now requires gigantic protests, the likes of the million man marches, and general strikes, there will probably be lots of dead from the Brownshirts that were recently pardoned Oathkeepers et al, and lastly they can brutally draw it out with police like Assad did for 15 years? and even that is not guaranteed since Maduro is still not toppled after 15 years either... and people here are angry that I blame Biden... You will come around, trust me.

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23 minutes ago, tigol said:


Bullshit.

Well, did he have turnip riddled with Seal Team bullets? Apparently, he had the power to do so, given the threat turnip then posed, and now demonstrates.

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1 minute ago, Willfully Horn said:

Well, did he have turnip riddled with Seal Team bullets? Apparently, he had the power to do so, given the threat turnip then posed, and now demonstrates.

"Damn, just nicked his ear!" 

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5 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Well, did he have turnip riddled with Seal Team bullets? Apparently, he had the power to do so, given the threat turnip then posed, and now demonstrates.

He really should have.  Missed opportunity. 

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8 minutes ago, linux said:

Oh I know the situation is completely dire, but it now requires gigantic protests, the likes of the million man marches, and general strikes, there will probably be lots of dead from the Brownshirts that were recently pardoned Oathkeepers et al, and lastly they can brutally draw it out with police like Assad did for 15 years? and even that is not guaranteed since Maduro is still not toppled after 15 years either... and people here are angry that I blame Biden... You will come around, trust me.

I’m not angry you blame Biden. I do too. He should have made it clear from the beginning he was a one term president and allow someone else to come out of the primary. But he didn’t and so here we are. Fucked

 

Protests aren’t gonna do shit. Fascists don’t give a fuck what the people think or what their poll numbers are

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19 minutes ago, Red Five said:

"Damn, just nicked his ear!" 

You joke, and I laughed. The better play would have been to kidnap the immunity voting SCOTUS justices, and fly them to Gitmo. And constantly explain why their ruling was a threat to the Constitution, and that, therefore, they already had agreed that their kidnapping was legal and that Biden had immunity from any consequence for doing so. Explain that if they would rescind the ruling they would be released.

All what ifs aside, it was apparent this was coming. Past presidents made hard choices that held on to the Republic. As much as I love Joe, I can’t help but see his return to politics as usual, which he was great at, as a huge mistake.

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Just now, SubliminalHorn said:

I’m not angry you blame Biden. I do too. He should have made it clear from the beginning he was a one term president and allow someone else to come out of the primary. But he didn’t and so here we are. Fucked

 

Protests aren’t gonna do shit. Fascists don’t give a fuck what the people think or what their poll numbers are

Protests have toppled a lot of "durable" dictatorships. The question is if Trump is agile enough for it and I see no evidence of this, Assad lasted a long long time after Arab Spring but he still fell, the question is how much protester blood will be spilled by Trump's SA and SS. A full economic collapse from tariffs would save lives ironically since it speeds up the fall of a dictatorship.

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15 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

I thought oil prices were falling.

 

And the deplorable chalk up another shameful victory:

”Navajo Code Talkers disappear from military websites after Trump DEI order”

 

https://www.axios.com/local/salt-lake-city/2025/03/17/navajo-code-talkers-trump-dei-military-websites-wwii

Just when you think you can't get any angrier. 

So DEI went back in time about 80 years and helped us win WW2? That's what DEI is now? 

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Brazen defiance to the chief judge of the DC federal court 

He’s bending over backwards asking them to give a written justification as case law and precedent requires more than the government screaming “NATIONAL SECURITY”. Sounds like noon tomorrow for that submission. That said - showing up to an evidentiary hearing on your own contempt of court without answers is a stupid battle to pick. They don’t have 5 votes at SCOTUS for ignoring TROs

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43 minutes ago, linux said:

Oh I know the situation is completely dire, but it now requires gigantic protests, the likes of the million man marches, and general strikes, there will probably be lots of dead from the Brownshirts that were recently pardoned Oathkeepers et al, and lastly they can brutally draw it out with police like Assad did for 15 years? and even that is not guaranteed since Maduro is still not toppled after 15 years either... and people here are angry that I blame Biden... You will come around, trust me.

There is an interesting juxtaposition on this, as many, many states (including Louisiana recently) said you can have concealed carry without a permit.

So all of the civil unrest will happen in a world where every liberal and MAGAt is armed but you don’t know who those folks are.  What could possibly go wrong?

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2 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Brazen defiance to the chief judge of the DC federal court 

He’s bending over backwards asking them to give a written justification as case law and precedent requires more than the government screaming “NATIONAL SECURITY”. Sounds like noon tomorrow for that submission. That said - showing up to an evidentiary hearing on your own contempt of court without answers is a stupid battle to pick. They don’t have 5 votes at SCOTUS for ignoring TROs

They’re going to just start ignoring the Supreme Court as well. They’ve shown they do not give a fuck. 

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Posted (edited)

Here's updates from NYT

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Alan Feuer
March 17, 2025, 5:30 p.m. ETJust now

Judge Boasberg now addresses the government’s argument that it did not violate his order because the planes had passed outside of U.S. airspace by the time his written ruling came down. The judge says the problem with that position is that he still has power over the officials who make the decisions about the planes, even if the planes themselves were outside of U.S. territorial jurisdiction.

Edited by SimonBolivar
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I first chaired trials in federal and state courts for 15 years and also appeared in a handful of cases before Judge Boasberg. No way would I have the balls to make this argument to his face. Embarrassing bad faith BS

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Posted
3 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

This exact realization was what hit me, and I suspect many on this board, like a ton of bricks the morning after the election.  THIS is who we are.

I've known Americans are dumbasses for a while now, and after Trump won in November I didn't think it was possible to shock me any more. But Trump having his highest approval ever right now is absolutely mind blowing shit. This is truly a dystopia. 

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Good to know this has been restored, but the fact that it was removed at all...

Army removes, reposts website documenting Japanese-American WWII soldiers

From the article- "The 442nd Regimental Combat Team was the most decorated unit for its size and length of service in WWII and composed of Nisei — American-born sons of Japanese immigrants..."

A friend's father was one of the members of the 442, and I was fortunate to meet him before he passed. He was drafted while his family was at Tule Lake, and went without question. Helluva man, with a deeper set of moral and ethical convictions (and love for our country) than the current occupant of the White House could even imagine.

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30 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Here's updates from NYT

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Alan Feuer
March 17, 2025, 5:30 p.m. ETJust now

Judge Boasberg now addresses the government’s argument that it did not violate his order because the planes had passed outside of U.S. airspace by the time his written ruling came down. The judge says the problem with that position is that he still has power over the officials who make the decisions about the planes, even if the planes themselves were outside of U.S. territorial jurisdiction.

So this Kambli fucker is a true believer from the KS AG office, which is much like the Texas AG office:  a hive of scum and villainy.  These fuckin Indians are getting mighty uppity in a country that doesn't like browns.

One thing the courts can do is stop granting any relief to the Trump administration and start disbarring (from local federal practice) DOJ attorneys that display lack of candor.

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1 minute ago, Pancho said:

Wait—why do the radical MAGA’s/Ana’s want the police officer who killed George Floyd to be released?

Why? He'll probably get the medal of freedom at some point.

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3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Wait—why do the radical MAGA’s/Ana’s want the police officer who killed George Floyd to be released?

wEApoNiZation against white people.

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6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So this Kambli fucker is a true believer from the KS AG office, which is much like the Texas AG office:  a hive of scum and villainy.  These fuckin Indians are getting mighty uppity in a country that doesn't like browns.

One thing the courts can do is stop granting any relief to the Trump administration and start disbarring (from local federal practice) DOJ attorneys that display lack of candor.

I cannot emphasize enough that the administration intended to make ridiculous arguments and lose.  They want to be ruled against then normalize defying court orders on an issue that is broadly popular abstractly (deporting illegal immigrant gang members). They want their lawyers to be shitty and have bad arguments. 
 

This whole thing isn’t about deporting people it’s about breaking the rule of law and attacking an independent judiciary.  The cases are selected to be unsympathetic (gangsters, Ivy League Palestine protesters, etc).  The attacks on Americans and political enemies will come later. 

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45 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Here's updates from NYT

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Alan Feuer
March 17, 2025, 5:30 p.m. ETJust now

Judge Boasberg now addresses the government’s argument that it did not violate his order because the planes had passed outside of U.S. airspace by the time his written ruling came down. The judge says the problem with that position is that he still has power over the officials who make the decisions about the planes, even if the planes themselves were outside of U.S. territorial jurisdiction.

jail him. 

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13 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Wait—why do the radical MAGA’s/Ana’s want the police officer who killed George Floyd to be released?

 

11 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Why? He'll probably get the medal of freedom at some point.

Nope, Chauvin is a stone cold loser who was convicted of a DEI murder. If he wants the medal of freedom, he's gonna have to murder a straight white male. 

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50 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I first chaired trials in federal and state courts for 15 years and also appeared in a handful of cases before Judge Boasberg. No way would I have the balls to make this argument to his face. Embarrassing bad faith BS

Call him up, ask him if he can find his balls.  

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20 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So this Kambli fucker is a true believer from the KS AG office, which is much like the Texas AG office:  a hive of scum and villainy.  These fuckin Indians are getting mighty uppity in a country that doesn't like browns.

One thing the courts can do is stop granting any relief to the Trump administration and start disbarring (from local federal practice) DOJ attorneys that display lack of candor.

Now here's an idea. If Trump lawyers are disbarred they would not be allowed into courtrooms.  From my experience, bailiffs are loyal to their judges. Who would the Trump admin. send to force the disbarred lawyers into the courtrooms?  Federal marshals? Would it really go to a gunfight between bailiffs and federal marshals? I guess if the disbarred lawyers made it into the courtroom then the judge could refuse to hold the hearings. I guess the next step would be impeachment of the judge by Congress. That would take 2/3 of the Senate.

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Me?  I’m all about law and order and will never violate law.

Just musing and all, mind you, but it seems that a lot of Republicans are not resisting because they are literally afraid for their physical safety and their family safety from maggots. 

I wonder what would happen if many of the Trump appointees abusing their power and doing all of this crap arrogantly without any worry of pushback suddenly wound up dirt napping because unhappy people did a Luigi on them?    It seems that the threat of actual violence is a very persuasive thing, and you wonder if it is a tactic that will eventually be utilized by more than one side.

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10 minutes ago, bolverk said:

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Refresher on who Walt Nauta is:
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Walt Nauta was a fucking mess mate.  A rating formerly reserved for Negroes, when they were called that.

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Nauta will serve alongside former Trump press secretary Sean Spicer; former White House physician and scandal-plagued Texas Rep. Ronny Jackson; and Wisconsin Rep. Derrick Van Orden, who attended Trump’s pre-insurrection rally on Jan. 6, 2021.

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Please, please, please, will a DOJ lawyer argue before the bench that the Saturday night Order is invalid, because it was electronically signed, which is like auto-pen, and therefore void.

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"Human rights of people have been strenuously questioned"

DJT in his life has never said "human rights violations" hence this wordsalad.

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