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18 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Yep.  What I am observing are small business owners in small towns and everyone downstream from them on the local economic ladder.  Not just the guy that owns the plow service, but the drivers that work for him.  Not just the excavating company owner, but the workers he hires.  Or not just the souvenir shop owner, but the employees that man it.  Life isn't better for them than it ever has been here in the mountains of Colorado.  I am not making that up for internet points or whatever.  They are struggling more today than they were pre-pandemic and they voted for change -- any change.  That is the reality here.  Your mileage may vary.

I typed a bunch of stuff but I feel like we are getting bogged down here. Politics has always been the same for me, it should be looking out for the most disadvantaged and vulnerable first and foremost.

 

I will repost the old post I was referencing earlier, because while angry and strident, it probably articulates what I'm saying better even if some of the things I don't really mean. This was written in Feb 2016. The last paragraph pretty much encapsulates the core of my belief.

 

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Yes, I can totally blame it. This is the single most fortunate group of people ever to exist on the face of the earth. Fuck every last one of y'all. The ingratitude I see in the world today is so stunning I can't even really come to grips with how it makes me feel. If holding jobs you don't want for less money than you think you deserve makes you lose your mind and blow it all up then I hope for nothing but failure for you. This is what happens when people don't worry about survival anymore, they invent other demons to slay. If anyone popped up and said "hey, lets try and do a better job at this" , then I'm in complete accordance. To speak in cataclysmic terms though, fuck off. You live in your parents basement? Tell me again how terrible that comfortable slice of suburbia is so I can relay it to some kids in a corrugated metal lean-to in the favela. Heath care costs a lot? I'll let the Syrian 8 year old who is missing legs because they just got bombed out know, I'm sure the kid will sympathize.

Politics has been nothing but one big ass pander to the middle class for a century. Democracy and republicanism was beget by whiny bourgeoisie. And now the middle class hasn't even gotten hurt, just minorly inconvenienced, people excuse themselves for being down right base? Hell no. There are soo many people on this planet with real problems, who are so marginalized that they have never had a voice, and sure as shit don't have one now, who are just completely ignored as usual. The guy living in a cardboard box, the kid who's parents live on the street as drug addicts, these are the people worth fighting for, and if anyone gave a flying shit about being angry for them, I'm all in with you. But they aren't, nothing in this election has anything to do with that. It's Joe Shit the Rag Man bitching because he isn't a fucking millionaire yet, and has a bunch of debt because he thinks himself entitled to be a homeowner and drive an Audi and have health coverage just for the simple fact he was born. It's bullshit.

My next door neighbor is voting Trump. He is a non college degree holder, who works on ship engines ( No small thinks to those evil trade deals), has a wonderful family, and manages (without a college degree) to be the owner of a half fucking million dollar house. Yeah, he has the right to be angry...

I have another longtime friend. Says Trump gonna make us win again. Because America is losing so much. Those Chinese with their $7,000 median income while getting cancer from the air they breath are really showing us. And those Arabs, we gotta get tough with them, because bombing the entire region into glass bits the past half century way too weak. They are sure winning a lot... And stop them Mexicans from leaving the country by building a wall, because obviously everyone knows there is a net out flow of Mexicans right now, right? This friend also happens to run a successful business and own several houses. Also can't give single example of a Trump policy proposal to accomplish this winning. But he knows we are losing so he is gonna get behind a candidate who's main philosophy is "get darkie".

If you are middle class in a western democracy, you are an incredibly fortunate person. Bad things happen to anyone, cancer, accident, etc. You take out these things and you have a happy healthy family, a roof over your head and food in your belly, there is no excuse not to wake up everyday in amazement at how lucky you are. Anyone that doesn't, I have no respect for.

 

 

 

 

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a populist...great communicator...charismatic...economic realist...smart as hell...wipes the floor with an opponent in any argument...connects with working class and minorities as well as educated elites...celebrity status...

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First things first, they'll get rid of the filibuster and then expand the supreme court and appoint 10 more conservative justices

I'm not sure they'll get rid of the filibuster. If they do, I will be pleasantly surprised and hope it remains on the ash heap of history.

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Anyway, I think there is a pattern from JFK through Biden on how the democrats can be president:  have a gifted politician present an optimistic and inclusive outline of an America that works for everyone and steer clear of shrill and angry rhetoric which only works for the right wing.  Worked for JFK, for Clinton, for Obama and once for Carter.  
 

And I do think to be fair to Kamala she tried to run that campaign but didn’t get to do it in a primary and was pushing against inertia.  This is not unique to us, incumbents around the world got PUNISHED. 
 

Republicans showed up though--they always do.  Maybe they had 2 million less that didn't believe in their cause.  But it's usually the Democrats that are sporadic.  It's a bitch to get them to care about mid terms.  Sure, they showed up for Biden, during a pandemic.  Regardless of race or nationality, we all failed.   We didn't show up for a female--twice.

Maybe Newsom had a better chance, but for those believing that it was strategic that he sat out. It's not a given that there'll be another time, when each term Republicans strip and break the system more.  And it's going to be tough for minority groups to get behind a white male that pretty much leaves them at seemingly static quo.  Democrats have a pretty large tent and everybody has their own demands--which makes it extremely hard to unify.  We have to agree on a plan that includes everybody, while meeting all of our individual needs and wants. But nothing does that quite like a direct threat today, to employment, homes and health.  Trump during a time of prosperity is a theoretical threat to dipshits.   And when it's all said and done, we mostly have jobs and cable apparently, since we get our views from social media and the internet.  We'll see if that changes.  Against sense, I'll hope that we continue prosperity, despite those that run the show. 

If nothing else though, it would've been fun to watch Newsom really hurt Trump's pride since he's younger, slimmer and more attractive.   Oh well, nobody will go unscathed, not even Gavin. 

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I don't think the past is even desirable precisely because the system is broken, at some point we also have to come jesus moment that the experiment failed, Republicans gamed the system by strategic retirements and court packing. Watch us get 100 Aileen Cannon judges, any democrat that runs will be shackled by the system and only a populist that screams that they are hurting the american people could even get through that.

I can not believe that we had the Senate House and presidency and we allowed ourselves to be shackled Manchin and Sinema were bought and we did nothing about it just accept watered down legislation, Biden really really hurt us in ways that history books should study it the gee wiz presidency.

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Biden/Harris America

Sorry, I can't buy FEMA's response as sincere. Zero chance they didn't know about this. Though they didn't care because all of these agencies have lived in a leftist echo chamber for the last 4 years and like all leftists, they lacked the ability to consider future ramifications.

They've called conservative Nazis, racists, homophobes, garbage. deplorable and threats to Democracy. They've weaponized the Justice System against political opponents, violated conservative's civil rights, targeted them with the IRS and had the FBI investigate people for merely disapproving of a little girl getting raped in a school bathroom by a transgender (that's a head scratcher). What makes it hard to believe the same people doing all of that would go out of their way to screw over conservatives in a natural disaster?

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I am afraid for that worker because that was a safety precaution Trump voters are violent that is precisely the warning about staying safe (aka deescalation and not going alone)

No doubt it is more fuel to the violent racist fire but we are where we are.

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1 minute ago, linux said:

I am afraid for that worker because that was a safety precaution Trump voters are violent that is precisely the warning about staying safe (aka deescalation and not going alone)

No doubt it is more fuel to the violent racist fire but we are where we are.

Yeah, Trump voters are the violent demographic one should profile.   Jesus fuck off. 

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5 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Yeah, Trump voters are the violent demographic one should profile.   Jesus fuck off. 

You're serious? After your party of dumbfucks and new President spent weeks propagating bold-faced lies about FEMA disaster relief money being siphoned off to illegal immigrants by Kamala, you don't think the aid workers might have been a little apprehensive about approaching an obvious Trump house? 

Still absolutely wrong--confrontation and risk come with the job--and deserving of being shit-canned. But probably a little more likely than FEMA getting together and deciding, "Haha, let's fuck over Trump voters."

Not that logic is going to stop y'all's propaganda train.

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You're serious? After your party of dumbfucks and new President spent weeks propagating bold-faced lies about FEMA disaster relief money being siphoned off to illegal immigrants by Kamala, you don't think the aid workers might have been a little apprehensive about approaching an obvious Trump house? 

Still absolutely wrong--confrontation and risk come with the job--and deserving of being shit-canned. But probably a little more likely than FEMA getting together and deciding, "Haha, let's fuck over Trump voters."

Not that logic is going to stop y'all's propaganda train.

It was some bitch who was on that Beatlejuice looking freak who was Chicago‘s mayor. Tick tock.  Winter is coming.  

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They are, to government employees

Bullshit. The postal carrier or FEMA worker is a hell of a lot safer walking down the streets and doing their job in my red neighborhood or in the red suburbs than they would in the shithole precincts with nightly gunfire that go 90 percent blue.  You people are fucking delusional.  

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1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

Bullshit. The postal carrier or FEMA worker is a hell of a lot safer walking down the streets and doing their job in my red neighborhood or in the red suburbs than they would in the shithole precincts with nightly gunfire that go 90 percent blue.  You people are fucking delusional.  

Why is that?

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2 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Bullshit. The postal carrier or FEMA worker is a hell of a lot safer walking down the streets and doing their job in my red neighborhood or in the red suburbs than they would in the shithole precincts with nightly gunfire that go 90 percent blue.  You people are fucking delusional.  

No, I am a dude and feel safer wearing a FEMA hat in a 90% blue district than wearing a FEMA hat in a red district. Who knows what you will encounter see your attitude for example. I can't imagine the dangers women would be in.

Although the gender argument  is dumb since a gun is a gun

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Poor democrats.  They don't have any popular media, mainstream media, or Big Tech platforms to help them.
You people really are delusional.

With this statement you have lost the right to ever call anyone else delusional…Jesus h

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No, I am a dude and feel safer wearing a FEMA hat in a 90% blue district than wearing a FEMA hat in a red district. Who knows what you will encounter see your attitude for example. I can't imagine the dangers women would be in.

Although the gender argument  is dumb since a gun is a gun

I’m sure that’s how you would feel.  Despite no rational basis for it. You’ve been brainwashed.  Like the FEMA bureaucrat. 

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haha my old retired dad worked for the census, just for a little extra $... the stories he shared about going to very rural areas and properties, deep red Texas counties... screamed at, threatened, chased off, met with actual firearms on porches...he got to be very cautious and tread very carefully in these maga stronghold areas... and he is maga, and an old white dude 🤣

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4 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I’m sure that’s how you would feel.  Despite no rational basis for it. You’ve been brainwashed.  Like the FEMA bureaucrat. 

You use the word brainwashed but don't understand its meaning, I literally have seen MAGA trucks like once every 3 months on the street and my go to reaction is that I am never approaching that dude in my life. Its understandable how you think you people are not violent and crazy, but to expect women to do so is risible, people are people and they should not approach freaks that hate them.

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You use the word brainwashed but don't understand its meaning, I literally have seen MAGA trucks like once every 3 months on the street and my go to reaction is that I am never approaching that dude in my life. Its understandable how you think you people are not violent and crazy, but to expect women to do so is risible, people are people and they should not approach freaks that hate them.

The odds of anyone, government worker or other, getting robbed, raped or killed is the highest in shithole deep blue areas.  Those are the facts.  And they are not in dispute. 

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The odds of anyone, government worker or other, getting robbed, raped or killed is the highest in shithole deep blue areas.  Those are the facts.  And they are not in dispute. 

Yeah, they are. Did you just crawl out of a sewer?

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no Black government worker is going to feel safer in a maga/red sundown town or sundown neighborhood than they would in a blue neighborhood.

 

Anyone who thinks they would is delusional, mentally unstable, and psychotic.

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39 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Biden/Harris America

Sorry, I can't buy FEMA's response as sincere. Zero chance they didn't know about this. Though they didn't care because all of these agencies have lived in a leftist echo chamber for the last 4 years and like all leftists, they lacked the ability to consider future ramifications.

They've called conservative Nazis, racists, homophobes, garbage. deplorable and threats to Democracy. They've weaponized the Justice System against political opponents, violated conservative's civil rights, targeted them with the IRS and had the FBI investigate people for merely disapproving of a little girl getting raped in a school bathroom by a transgender (that's a head scratcher). What makes it hard to believe the same people doing all of that would go out of their way to screw over conservatives in a natural disaster?

The Daily Wire is a well-known POS. Try harder. Or don't.

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1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

It’s quoting FEMA’s response, dipshit. 

I know what it is saying assbrain. It is completely skewed.

You smell like...another poster who was constantly ridiculed...could not compete in ideas. Showing up thinking they are dunking. New handle, obviously enlightened.

When at best you are being allowed at the child's table. 

 

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3 minutes ago, mchookem said:

dude... he's a fucking DEACON 🤣 can't you tell from his christ-like agape altruistic demeanor??

 

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Ok everyone pipe down. He has to stop posting now to prepare his Sunday School inspirations of what all Christofacists espouse now, which is inclusion and helping our fellow man.

You know, like that guy who was homeless, worked with his hands, and sacrificed everything suggested we do.

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