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The guy was asking if he should be worried if his wife might have her citizenship revoked. Some of you seriously believe that's a worry? Seems hyperbolic.
I realize who/what we are dealing with in the incoming administration, but there is soooo much more lower hanging fruit than trying to peel back well established parts of the constitution - especially to apply retroactively. And if we get to that point, there are larger worries. 
To boot, the guy is married to this woman - pretty easy to gain residency and citizenship via marriage anyway. There are plenty of things to worry about right now, but I don't think that poster needs to seriously worry about his citizen wife being abruptly deported, personally. 

The last round of Trump - when they weren’t NEARLY as powerful - they tried to launch an effort to deport lifetime US citizens like my dad (that is, people born in US border hospitals in the 30s and before, when record keeping wasn’t A+). What gives you the idea they won’t be more emboldened this time?
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I doubt they're going to start going through a list but I bet the new administration will bake in looking at someone's citizenship and birth status whenever there's an option to like you go to a hospital for emergency care or you apply for something that is screened by the government like a passport.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:


The last round of Trump - when they weren’t NEARLY as powerful - they tried to launch an effort to deport lifetime US citizens like my dad (that is, people born in US border hospitals in the 30s and before, when record keeping wasn’t A+). What gives you the idea they won’t be more emboldened this time?

The reason I don't think it's a concern is because there are logistical barriers to deporting people. Personnel to round people up, processing facilities, transportation to the "home" country, agreements with the home country to allow the plane to land and how many people they will process a month, etc. etc. 

They can fully max out all of that capacity with much lower hanging fruit for years before they'd be out of illegals who are "easy" to deport (have no protections or recourse). Trying to do the same with citizens will take much more effort and require complicity across the states, congress, supreme court, federal agencies, etc. 

It just doesn't seem likely to me. 

 

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10 minutes ago, BillyBadAss said:

The reason I don't think it's a concern is because there are logistical barriers to deporting people. Personnel to round people up, processing facilities, transportation to the "home" country, agreements with the home country to allow the plane to land and how many people they will process a month, etc. etc. 

They can fully max out all of that capacity with much lower hanging fruit for years before they'd be out of illegals who are "easy" to deport (have no protections or recourse). Trying to do the same with citizens will take much more effort and require complicity across the states, congress, supreme court, federal agencies, etc. 

It just doesn't seem likely to me. 

 

All the shit on the front half here in the US isn’t a barrier, it’s an opportunity to enrich all those service providers with outsourced govt contracts 

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This American Life did a segment on the logistics of it all - they spoke with a senior guy at ICE and he walked through a lot of it. 

TLDR; - they can deport massive amounts of people if most restrictions are essentially removed, but still there are limits. 

Worth a listen: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/846/this-is-the-cake-we-baked

(the part I'm talking about starts 7 minutes in, and is 17 minutes long)

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47 minutes ago, BillyBadAss said:

The reason I don't think it's a concern is because there are logistical barriers to deporting people. Personnel to round people up, processing facilities, transportation to the "home" country, agreements with the home country to allow the plane to land and how many people they will process a month, etc. etc. 

They can fully max out all of that capacity with much lower hanging fruit for years before they'd be out of illegals who are "easy" to deport (have no protections or recourse). Trying to do the same with citizens will take much more effort and require complicity across the states, congress, supreme court, federal agencies, etc. 

It just doesn't seem likely to me. 

 

 

29 minutes ago, BillyBadAss said:

This American Life did a segment on the logistics of it all - they spoke with a senior guy at ICE and he walked through a lot of it. 

TLDR; - they can deport massive amounts of people if most restrictions are essentially removed, but still there are limits. 

Worth a listen: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/846/this-is-the-cake-we-baked

(the part I'm talking about starts 7 minutes in, and is 17 minutes long)

I mean, are you aware of the 1400 acre ranch in west Texas they're converting into an immigrant concentration site for deportation?

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/19/texas-border-starr-county-ranch-trump-deportation/

Buddy it's gonna get fucking UGLY. Just hope there's no rail lines put in.

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It will be interesting to see how America reacts if they do succeed at massive deportations. It's one thing to think about it in the abstract and far away. It's another to see people in your own community affected.  What happens when local restaurants or services start to be visibly affected? Food prices increase or there are shortages of things like chicken. Construction halts, you can't find a lawn service, the office trash stops being emptied, etc. 

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Oh I forgot to add upthread that there will be real danger from citizens informing on those who they suspect are not here legally or who might've been born here to undocumented parents. That's why I would advise anyone in that situation, of immigrant origin (read non-white, non-African American) to keep a valid passport on hand to get you quickly out of that situation before it escalates.

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4 minutes ago, BillyBadAss said:

It will be interesting to see how America reacts if they do succeed at massive deportations. It's one thing to think about it in the abstract and far away. It's another to see people in your own community affected.  What happens when local restaurants or services start to be visibly affected? Food prices increase or there are shortages of things like chicken. Construction halts, you can't find a lawn service, the office trash stops being emptied, etc. 

the white folk pining for industry will surely pick up the slack. 

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I don't think my wife is going to be deported. But I'm not sure what the fuck is going to happen, and it's absurd that it's even a question. Also, I'm sure there are foreign adoptees whose citizenship status is less clear. Just an angle of this thing that I haven't seen or heard discussed anywhere.

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10 minutes ago, BillyBadAss said:

What happens when local restaurants or services start to be visibly affected? Food prices increase or there are shortages of things like chicken. Construction halts, you can't find a lawn service, the office trash stops being emptied, etc. 

the leopards eating faces thread is going to have some amazing content

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12 minutes ago, BillyBadAss said:

It will be interesting to see how America reacts if they do succeed at massive deportations. It's one thing to think about it in the abstract and far away. It's another to see people in your own community affected.  What happens when local restaurants or services start to be visibly affected? Food prices increase or there are shortages of things like chicken. Construction halts, you can't find a lawn service, the office trash stops being emptied, etc. 

No one wants to work anymore!

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1 hour ago, BillyBadAss said:

It will be interesting to see how America reacts if they do succeed at massive deportations. It's one thing to think about it in the abstract and far away. It's another to see people in your own community affected.  What happens when local restaurants or services start to be visibly affected? Food prices increase or there are shortages of things like chicken. Construction halts, you can't find a lawn service, the office trash stops being emptied, etc. 

I'm assuming it will go something like "Damn you, Biden / Obama!!!!!!"

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46 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

I'm assuming it will go something like "Damn you, Biden / Obama!!!!!!"

Of course it will. They think Trump isn't part of the problem, when his policies made the problem far worse. He was the one who deprioritized deportation of criminals and significantly reduced the numbers of deportations overall. Obama prioritized deportation of criminals and made far more criminal deportations and overall removals per year for 8 years than Trump ever did. Then he killed the Bipartisan Border Bill and heaped all the blame on Biden, and fml, it worked, because people are fucking morons.

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2 hours ago, BillyBadAss said:

It will be interesting to see how America reacts if they do succeed at massive deportations. It's one thing to think about it in the abstract and far away. It's another to see people in your own community affected.  What happens when local restaurants or services start to be visibly affected? Food prices increase or there are shortages of things like chicken. Construction halts, you can't find a lawn service, the office trash stops being emptied, etc. 

 

53 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

I'm assuming it will go something like "Damn you, Biden / Obama!!!!!!"

No… it’ll be more like this:

If Biden and the democrats hadn’t let all the illegals come across in the first place, then things wouldn’t have gotten so damn expensive when we deported them all out.

 

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6 hours ago, BillyBadAss said:

The guy was asking if he should be worried if his wife might have her citizenship revoked. Some of you seriously believe that's a worry? Seems hyperbolic.

I realize who/what we are dealing with in the incoming administration, but there is soooo much more lower hanging fruit than trying to peel back well established parts of the constitution - especially to apply retroactively. And if we get to that point, there are larger worries. 

To boot, the guy is married to this woman - pretty easy to gain residency and citizenship via marriage anyway. There are plenty of things to worry about right now, but I don't think that poster needs to seriously worry about his citizen wife being abruptly deported, personally. 

You know they’re planning on limiting the ability for spouses to sponsor each other right? At this point, we have to assume anything and everything is on the table for this administration when it comes to immigration and overall grifting 

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8 hours ago, Walser said:

Would it be accurate to describe our incoming govt the love child of oligarchy and kakistocracy? Did Russia actually win the Cold War?

No, but Osama Bin Laden accomplished his goal. I'm guessing not the exact way he envisioned, but as soon as 9/11 happened the US turbocharged it's pending decline. The fire was already set but he found a way to pour a ton of gasoline on it

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5 hours ago, BillyBadAss said:

It will be interesting to see how America reacts if they do succeed at massive deportations. It's one thing to think about it in the abstract and far away. It's another to see people in your own community affected.  What happens when local restaurants or services start to be visibly affected? Food prices increase or there are shortages of things like chicken. Construction halts, you can't find a lawn service, the office trash stops being emptied, etc. 

The whole thing is premised on the lie that these people are stealing jobs from red blooded Americans.  

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16 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

No, but Osama Bin Laden accomplished his goal. I'm guessing not the exact way he envisioned, but as soon as 9/11 happened the US turbocharged it's pending decline. The fire was already set but he found a way to pour a ton of gasoline on it

Yup that was the beginning of the end, that was when you learned the absolute dumbest people were in charge.

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