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How many ships of the Atlantic fleet could even fit through the canal?  How functional is a battle group without its carrier and whichever ships have to stay with the carrier?  Would we ever put all of our naval platforms on one ocean?

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8 hours ago, Nivek said:


Tough guy Ronnie perked up his base by playing tough with Grenada. So of course Trump would want to fight some country with a few coast guard boats.

Yup. It’s easy pickings for Trump. I can’t decide whether he’d be willing to take on a much more complex operation for the Canal. 

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Just waiting for the orange fuck to blame the SoCal fires on Biden/Newsom and break out the old "rake the forests" tropes. At least the outgoing admin won't delay federal response/emergency declarations due to politics.

Sorry, blue state voters. The leopards are gonna feast on you as well.

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38 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

I guess Tuberville never played San Diego State, huh?

San Diego sounds Mexican.  We should also rename all Mexican sounding cities.  San Antonio, fuck that.  Saint Trumpy, or Trumpygrad.  

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6 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How many ships of the Atlantic fleet could even fit through the canal?  How functional is a battle group without its carrier and whichever ships have to stay with the carrier?  Would we ever put all of our naval platforms on one ocean?

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The Dems are going to block a lot of stupid shit the Trumpublicans try in the coming months. 

How? They are out numbered in the House. The Senate has the filibuster, but the Republicans will toss that anytime they need to.
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10 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:


How? They are out numbered in the House. The Senate has the filibuster, but the Republicans will toss that anytime they need to.

Yeah, the Dems will need to be selective with the filibuster. He’s going to be calling for its end by this summer.

I’ll wager Murkowski is a hard no, but after that? 🤷‍♂️ 

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11 hours ago, texashorn13 said:

Could we just negotiate naming rights?  We get Gulf of American and you get North Mexico.

Don't give him any ideas, because then he'll start selling off naming rights and we'll be stuck with the AT&T Gulf Sponsored By Crypto.com

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8 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How many ships of the Atlantic fleet could even fit through the canal?  How functional is a battle group without its carrier and whichever ships have to stay with the carrier?  Would we ever put all of our naval platforms on one ocean?

I think the canal would be relatively easy to take out of commission, if war is afoot.

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8 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How many ships of the Atlantic fleet could even fit through the canal?  How functional is a battle group without its carrier and whichever ships have to stay with the carrier?  Would we ever put all of our naval platforms on one ocean?

Carriers wouldn't fit.  But, yes, let's anchor billions of dollars of naval assets in the grid lock that is the Port of Panama while waiting days/weeks to transverse the canal.  Talk about shooting fish in a barrel.

 

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1 hour ago, Nivek said:

San Diego sounds Mexican.  We should also rename all Mexican sounding cities.  San Antonio, fuck that.  Saint Trumpy, or Trumpygrad.  

If we’re going to rename San Diego in honor of Trump then no other moniker fits like Whale Vagina. 

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4 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

I think the canal would be relatively easy to take out of commission, if war is afoot.

And during wartime with a major power I'm not sure we'd be putting many ships through there  to be sitting ducks.

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4 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

Carriers wouldn't fit.  But, yes, let's anchor billions of dollars of naval assets in the grid lock that is the Port of Panama while waiting days/weeks to transverse the canal.  Talk about shooting fish in a barrel.

 

Exactly.

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Trump talking about annexation of other countries diplomatically strengthens Russia's ambitions of annexing Ukraine, China's ambitions of annexing Taiwan and Israel's ambitions of slowly annexing/colonizing territories in Palestinian-controlled areas. 

Realignment talk not going away.

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Just now, Aqua Buddha said:

He's either wrong or lying.  (Not that it matters.  He'll just keep at it.)

There is plenty of water in CA:

https://cdec.water.ca.gov/resapp/RescondMain

I've been streaming one of the local news outlets in LA on YouTube in the background. Apparently, a former mayoral candidate and conservative crank has been bitching about the firefighters briefly running out of water overnight in Palisades. It's the local Fox affiliate, btw, and they're reporting that all the municipal water tanks had been filled in anticipation of the fires but ended up using so much that they ran dry. Basically, they're saying that guy is full of shit.

Of course, a reactionary rube like Incredulity is already shouting about this "scandal" in the wildfire news thread. I keep that piece of shit on ignore but viewed his post under the erroneous assumption he might have something informative or useful to add to the conversation. That was a fucking mistake.

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8 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

He's either wrong or lying.  (Not that it matters.  He'll just keep at it.)

There is plenty of water in CA:

https://cdec.water.ca.gov/resapp/RescondMain

It's slightly complicated.  Some amount of water from Norcal is kept in Norcal to maintain ecosystems that house endangered species like the Delta Smelt.

If the Delta Smelt is ignored, more water heads south.  But south means Central Valley, not LA, where the wildfires are.  Of course, LA was founded on stealing water from the Central Valley, but I'm not sure where that stands.

So, ultimately, Trump is lying.

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14 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Of course, a reactionary rube like Incredulity is already shouting about this "scandal" in the wildfire news thread. I keep that piece of shit on ignore but viewed his post under the erroneous assumption he might have something informative or useful to add to the conversation. That was a fucking mistake.

 

11 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, ultimately, Trump is lying.

no way... now i'm incredulous! 😮🙄

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Trump is saying all this bullshit about Greenland, Canada, the Panama Canal, etc., so no one will remember how he said he's going to deport all the browns, bring down inflation and end the Ukrainian war in 1 day.   

He's not going to do any of the shit he said he would, so he throws a bunch of other bullshit against the wall....and it's working. 

As soon as it's clear he's too stupid to accomplish any of the new bullshit, he'll move onto the next ridiculous claim/subject.  Rinse and repeat. 

I hate him and the media so much. 

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9 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Fuck you.

Someone else posted they didn't have water in the hydrants.   

Lol yeah trump and a jackass failed mayoral candidate are pushing the message that "Gavin NewScum" is failing the state and it's a "scandal" because there's no water. 

So weird how you just happen to repeat the party line and launder the context of your completely, totally, original thought. NoCR tho amirite

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2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Lol yeah trump and a jackass failed mayoral candidate are pushing the message that "Gavin NewScum" is failing the state and it's a "scandal" because there's no water. 

So weird how you just happen to repeat the party line and launder the context of your completely, totally, original thought. NoCR tho amirite

Whatever.

I haven't seen Trump's commentary on this.

Fire protection water is a must have to get development approved anywhere.  Of course much of this may be grandfathered in to systems that wouldn't be allowed currently.  If fire protection rules were skirted its a huge scandal.  thats all I said.

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19 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

My hot take-

Invading Greenland is a just another verbal sleight of hand that has worked time and time again on an overworked populous with the free time to only read headlines to divert attention from the HB1 MAGA Civil War that his deputy salesmen Vivek and Elon blundered into.

Don't look at that. Check this out.

 

Since we're going back to Repo Man times, we'll all be here soon

 

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5 hours ago, Underdog said:

If we’re going to rename San Diego in honor of Trump then no other moniker fits like Whale Vagina. 

fitting, but not treasonous enough sounding.   Ivankastan?  

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8 hours ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

Just waiting for the orange fuck to blame the SoCal fires on Biden/Newsom and break out the old "rake the forests" tropes. At least the outgoing admin won't delay federal response/emergency declarations due to politics.

Sorry, blue state voters. The leopards are gonna feast on you as well.

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It’s embarrassing to be an American these days. Our president elect speaks in broken English in his press conferences and on social media, threatening to take territories from our allies against their will.

A couple of years ago the world watched in horror as Putin invaded Ukraine. We have helped Ukraine resist. We have also been waiting to see if China would be bold enough to forcefully take Taiwan.

How exactly is the U.S. any different than Russia or China if we go down this path? We will tariff our enemies into submission and force Denmark to give up Greenland? Force Canada to become a state? I suppose there will be less bloodshed but our soon to be leader is still talking very openly about a hostile takeover of allied territories.

This bullshit about America First is no different than Russia First or PRC First. We are becoming our enemies.

The problem is that when you look around the world, it’s hard to know who the good guys are anymore. If WW3 happens, who will be the voice of reason?

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