Fire Jaime Harrison

[Chuckie Finster 22,625]

9 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/08/texas-democrat-party-resigns-gilberto-hinojosa/

TIL someone was running the Texas Democratic Party.

Edited November 8 by Chuckie Finster

[Hank Kingsley 20,800]

Good first step. 

[chainsaw 9,840]

28 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Good first step. 

Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Jaime Harrison have left the party without a leader.

That throne is up for grabs.

[chainsaw 9,840]

As far as Texas goes, I hope they stay far away from the lazy, bland, out-of-touch fuckwits who only know how to throw $2,000-a-plate fundraisers and sniff their own farts.

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https://www.npr.org/2024/11/07/nx-s1-5182886/trump-economy-latino-women-right-election-results

While the Democrats seem so surprised, Republican strategists seem to know what was coming well in advance.

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On 11/6/2024 at 4:18 PM, David Dennison said:

I understand where you're coming from, but this sentiment is why Democrats lose elections.

Nope.   they get angry when you tell them that their God king is full of absolute bullshit and lies. Facts are useless.   You keep talking like it makes a difference what the content of the discussion was.  The only content is ‘I’m on team Trump and I want to hurt people who aren’t on my team.’ That’s it.   How It got that way is a different story, but there is literally nothing you could tell most MAGA fans and make them switch.    The anecdotal evidence of this from numerous people on the board (who posted how they changed minds) is as accurate in the broad demographics as the evidence that old people were voting against Trump.  

The Anecdotal Evidence is bullshit. You just want to keep believing the lie that that they’re very nice slightly misinformed people.   like I say, these are the people who would bring casseroles to their ailing neighbors - and yet take time to go throw rocks at the school buses bringing in black kids.   Those are nice, nice people. Just ask them. Ask their family if they are nice.  Ask their church members. Ask their neighbors. They will all tell you they are nice…

…but we need to deport those dog eating Haitians and all those criminal murdering Mexicans.  

 

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On 11/7/2024 at 7:18 PM, UpperWestside said:

Well yes if you are targeting younger voters. The attention span is shorter than that of a gnat. I feel like we keep looking to younger people to turn things around, but it’s hard to do when millions of them can’t be bothered to cast a vote. 
 

I am in favor of compulsory voting like the Aussies have. Don’t want to exercise your right to vote that people have fought for you to have? Here’s a nice fine for not doing the one civic duty you should value above all others.

This is false. There are a ton of young voters. Democrats just fucking suck at the messaging to them and essentially alienate them. 

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At a certain point we have to accept that it's not "messaging" it's the product. I have my healthy disagreements with the product, especially on Gaza and immigration, but it's obvious which product is better between what Kamala offered and what Trump offered.

I don't think there's any "messaging" that can sell decency to bad people.

No, this one's on the voters. My working theory on radicalization is that the Dems' party leadership completely ceded all these spaces (podcasts, video games, streamers, low brow events like MMA) and assumed nothing would change from 2022. As usual, the Dems' party leadership grossly miscalculated the consequences. Gen Z (males mostly) underwent a change in their values at a time when they had developed zero party loyalty.

The good news is that there are voices from the left and from the center who are already in these spaces. The infrastructure is there.

The hard pill for the party leadership to swallow is that the voices in these spaces with the greatest ability to win back Gen Z are not people with whom the party elites have ever shown a willingness to work. They would much rather trot out Oprah, Beyoncé, and Jimmy Kimmel. If I'm being honest, the GOP has done a far better job of actually responding to what young people in their movement have been asking for. Their outreach has adapted to how young people in the 2020s think, as well as how they consume media.

The Dems? Well, they had some cringeworthy "Creators for Kamala" initiative, exhibiting the same inauthenticity that plagued the candidate herself as people grew accustomed, then tired, of her stump speech.

There are 74M bad people, and as long as Dems continue to allow it to happen by ignoring how Gen Z thinks and consumes media, that number will grow even as older Republicans die out.

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