Tell me about New York City

[Ignatius 4,017]

On 7/24/2019 at 3:40 PM, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

850 Sq Ft, so not terribly small.  

Haha, man paying $4K for an 850 sqft place and saying (a) it’s not that much and (b) it’s not that small and (c) sincerely meaning both tells you everything you need to know about living up here....

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,100]

1 hour ago, Ignatius said:

Haha, man paying $4K for an 850 sqft place and saying (a) it’s not that much and (b) it’s not that small and (c) sincerely meaning both tells you everything you need to know about living up here....

The average apartment in NYC is 400 sq ft.  When I lived in NYC in 2007, we paid 4500 for a 3bd/2ba at 91st and 1st that was just over 1,000 sq ft.  So yeah, paying 4k for an 850 sq ft space that is a 1bd is not that small and not that much.  It is all relative.

 

[Ignatius 4,017]

18 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

The average apartment in NYC is 400 sq ft.  When I lived in NYC in 2007, we paid 4500 for a 3bd/2ba at 91st and 1st that was just over 1,000 sq ft.  So yeah, paying 4k for an 850 sq ft space that is a 1bd is not that small and not that much.  It is all relative.

 

My point was about rents here relative to other parts of the country and not about what a relative bargain/raping this dude is getting...

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,100]

My point was about rents here relative to other parts of the country and not about what a relative bargain/raping this dude is getting...

1. Not a dude.

2. I would argue rents in SannFran are on par or even more expensive than NYC.

3. NYC is the same from a cost perspective of other large international cities. Hell, it can be a bargain when you think about size compared to London or Paris.

[HenryJames 66,031]

Post-Brexit London should be affordable.

[next2naus 436]

14 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

The average apartment in NYC is 400 sq ft.  When I lived in NYC in 2007, we paid 4500 for a 3bd/2ba at 91st and 1st that was just over 1,000 sq ft.  So yeah, paying 4k for an 850 sq ft space that is a 1bd is not that small and not that much.  It is all relative.

 

RCLCO, an analytics firm specializing in real estate data, compiled a study in 2016 that showed the average size of an apartment built in New York City since 2000 is 866 square feet. They also reported that more than half the apartments in competitive markets like New York are 700 square feet or less in size. perhaps choosing a pre-war place cost you some space. 

 

My last NYC apartment was a 10th floor corner unit overlooking a plaza, 2/2 with storage unit in a full service building, 1200 SQFT, $5.5k. good deal all tings being equal but I pay less now to live on a acre of land in the burns with triple the square feet. At times I miss the city but having a big ass smoker and not paying for parking is huge. it would have cost my another grand for two cars. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,100]

And I can tell you that all the new buildings I looked at capped their 1 bedrooms at about 750 sq ft, and some of those they wanted 6k for.

Remember, that study includes the New York MSA, which includes Newark and Westchester.

[Spankytoes 1,739]

2 hours ago, next2naus said:

At times I miss the city but having a big ass smoker and not paying for parking is huge. 

Thanks for the invite

[next2naus 436]

5 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

And I can tell you that all the new buildings I looked at capped their 1 bedrooms at about 750 sq ft, and some of those they wanted 6k for.

Remember, that study includes the New York MSA, which includes Newark and Westchester.

if you cut back on eating out you could afford that but then what would you take pictures of?

[next2naus 436]

4 hours ago, Spankytoes said:

Thanks for the invite

what? and get you out of Long Beach? Have you tried Lido Deli yet? 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,100]

if you cut back on eating out you could afford that but then what would you take pictures of?

I wasn't the one complaining about the price. I dont have an issue with it. I actually think I got a pretty good deal.

But you can pretty much go fuck yourself.

[Uncle Boobs 1,248]

Well this conversation is certainly pleasant.

[next2naus 436]

14 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I wasn't the one complaining about the price. I dont have an issue with it. I actually think I got a pretty good deal.

But you can pretty much go fuck yourself.

yeah! you got me! 

[Landomatic 3,813]

15 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I wasn't the one complaining about the price. I dont have an issue with it. I actually think I got a pretty good deal.

But you can pretty much go fuck yourself.

[mdmost 42,997]

9 hours ago, Uncle Boobs said:

Well this conversation is certainly pleasant.

Penny's going to be a great New Yorker. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,100]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

Penny's going to be a great New Yorker. 

I have already been a New Yorker once.  It is easy to turn on when you need to.

[Junior Miller 1,502]

On 7/28/2019 at 7:02 PM, Ignatius said:

My point was about rents here relative to other parts of the country and not about what a relative bargain/raping this dude is getting...

No shit. 850 sq ft is barely bigger than my master bathroom. I used to live in small flats in Europe during my playing career with no problem but I think I spoiled myself too much now because the thought of living in my bathroom space with no yard sounds horrific. 

I like NYC for weekend trips to grab a bite at Peter Luger's or something and hang out but I can't be in that city more than 2 days. Way too many people crammed into too small a space. 

[Kevin O’Shea 279]

Looking for Italian Recs. Can’t get a table at Carbone 

[HenryJames 66,031]

Buca di Beppo

[BHMCruiser 1,813]

On 7/29/2019 at 10:43 PM, Uncle Boobs said:

Well this conversation is certainly pleasant.

It's like actually being in New York. Now I don't have to go.

[4th&Five 41,506]

Just got back yesterday from a trip with the wife.  Neither of us had ever been there as adults.  Had a really good time and walked 31 miles over 3 days.  Fucked up a few times on the trains but nothing terrible (also bought a 10 trip pass on AirTran instead of the Subway).  Weather was perfect other than a 15 minute storm on Friday while we were walking through Central Park. Got to see TKMB on Sunday for pretty cheap as well.  Very good.

[Reynolds Woodcock 4,738]

2 hours ago, Kevin O’Shea said:

Looking for Italian Recs. Can’t get a table at Carbone 

Carbone is fun but I don't really think it's worth the price tag. That place hits the wallet surprisingly hard.  There are great choices in virtually every neighborhood.  Downtown, there is L'Artusi, i Sodi and Babbo in the West Village and Peasant and Il Buco in NoLita/NoHo, all of which take reservations (a month or two in advance). Via Carota might be my favorite restaurant in the city but it is becoming a real fucking beating to get a table at a reasonable hour because they don't take reservations.  

I suppose all of these are on the trendier side, so if you are looking for old school red sauce, probably not the best choices.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,100]

I would say Via Carota if you are ok waiting a bit (i.e. go get a cocktail across the street while you wait).  

There is a relatively new place, Rezdora, in Flatiron by Stefano Secchi.  (https://ny.eater.com/2019/5/10/18563433/rezdora-flatiron-opens-stefano-secchi)

[Reynolds Woodcock 4,738]

7 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I would say Via Carota if you are ok waiting a bit (i.e. go get a cocktail across the street while you wait).  

There is a relatively new place, Rezdora, in Flatiron by Stefano Secchi.  (https://ny.eater.com/2019/5/10/18563433/rezdora-flatiron-opens-stefano-secchi)

Rezdora is very tasty. 

[Landomatic 3,813]

5 hours ago, Kevin O’Shea said:

Looking for Italian Recs. Can’t get a table at Carbone 

Babbo is a perfect Italian dinner night whenever we go.  To me, it’s all of our favorite NYC things wrapped into a dinner.  But, I’ll be the first to admit that I’ve only tried 10 or so different Italian places in New York City so I’m kind of an amateur.  But I came by it via one of the most NY people I’ve ever known who would agree so I put a little faith in it.  FWIW

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,100]

6 hours ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

Rezdora is very tasty. 

It is on my list.  I have heard good things.

[Kevin O’Shea 279]

I might go after Rezdôra. Any tips on getting a reservation? Calling vs using Resy?

How’s Il Buco? Interior looks like a place my wife would enjoy. 

[Reynolds Woodcock 4,738]

59 minutes ago, Kevin O’Shea said:

I might go after Rezdôra. Any tips on getting a reservation? Calling vs using Resy?

How’s Il Buco? Interior looks like a place my wife would enjoy. 

Pretty sure it’s Resy 1 month in advance at midnight.

Il Buco is a nice old school-ish atmosphere, especially if you ask to be seated in the wine cellar.  Parents loved it when I brought them.  I think the food might be just barely a notch below the other places I mentioned, but still very good.

[next2naus 436]

11 hours ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

Pretty sure it’s Resy 1 month in advance at midnight.

Il Buco is a nice old school-ish atmosphere, especially if you ask to be seated in the wine cellar.  Parents loved it when I brought them.  I think the food might be just barely a notch below the other places I mentioned, but still very good.

DOn't forget the newer Il Bucco

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,100]

23 hours ago, Kevin O’Shea said:

I might go after Rezdôra. Any tips on getting a reservation? Calling vs using Resy?

How’s Il Buco? Interior looks like a place my wife would enjoy. 

Resy looks pretty booked up.  That being said, pick the day you want to go, and have them tell you if something comes available.  Or, you can always pop by and see if they have any walk in tables.  I have gotten incredibly lucky this summer without reservations.

[Landomatic 3,813]

12 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Resy looks pretty booked up.  That being said, pick the day you want to go, and have them tell you if something comes available.  Or, you can always pop by and see if they have any walk in tables.  I have gotten incredibly lucky this summer without reservations.

That wait list (or whatever they call it) is the coolest thing about Resy.  I’ve gotten a lot of “hard to get”reservations with it.

That said, I agree the walk in might always be your best bet.  I mean, honestly, what are they gonna do?  Tell you to go have a drink at the bar while they get you a table?  Okay...that doesn’t suck.

[Landomatic 3,813]

12 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Resy looks pretty booked up.  That being said, pick the day you want to go, and have them tell you if something comes available.  Or, you can always pop by and see if they have any walk in tables.  I have gotten incredibly lucky this summer without reservations.

That wait list (or whatever they call it) is the coolest thing about Resy.  I’ve gotten a lot of “hard to get”reservations with it.

That said, I agree the walk in might always be your best bet.  I mean, honestly, what are they gonna do?  Tell you to go have a drink at the bar while they get you a table?  Okay...that doesn’t suck.

[texasdago 7,562]

I am a fan of Eataly... easy, simple, well-prepared staples from various parts of Italy.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,100]

1 hour ago, Landomatic said:

That wait list (or whatever they call it) is the coolest thing about Resy.  I’ve gotten a lot of “hard to get”reservations with it.

That said, I agree the walk in might always be your best bet.  I mean, honestly, what are they gonna do?  Tell you to go have a drink at the bar while they get you a table?  Okay...that doesn’t suck.

Agreed.  I have been very lucky at Frenchette this summer with NO reservation.  Helps that they keep 1/3 of the tables and the bar for walk ins.  Also helps that I generally go pretty early (before 7:30).  Might have to do that again this weekend.

[Spankytoes 1,739]

I have a reservation at Rao's tomorrow night through a friend of a friend. Pretty stoked.

[Landomatic 3,813]

9 hours ago, Spankytoes said:

I have a reservation at Rao's tomorrow night through a friend of a friend. Pretty stoked.

Damn that’s badass.  Report back.  I miss NY

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,100]

I have a reservation at Rao's tomorrow night through a friend of a friend. Pretty stoked.

Jealous. Definitely report back.

[Kevin O’Shea 279]

Going next month for the wife’s birthday. I have the following locked down.

Friday Night: Rezdora
Saturday Brunch: Boucherie
Saturday Night (During Rice game): Polo Bar

Need pizza recs. Plenty of time to get good za for lunch on Friday and Sunday.

I follow the OneBite app and Angelo’s Coal Oven has high scores near where we’re staying. However the pizza just looks okay to me. Rubirosa looks good to me. Recs please.


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[Spankytoes 1,739]

23 hours ago, Landomatic said:

Damn that’s badass.  Report back.  I miss NY

@PenelopeWitherspoon

It was everything you would imagine it to be. We had 2 spots at one of the 10 seater tables after a short wait at the bar. We had the waiter design the menu for us since they don’t have one set.

Meatballs and spinach for apps



Seafood salad, baked clams and homemade mozzarella with roasted red peppers for the 1st course



Soft shell crab and fried mozzarella for the 2nd course



Sirloin with vinegary peppers, charbroiled lemon chicken and peas with onions and prosciutto for the main



Assorted desserts to finish things off



We had a few bottles of red wine in there and cappuccinos with dessert. Everything was served in just under 3 hours. Amazing place and well worth the price.

 

Edited August 17, 2019 by Spankytoes

[Spankytoes 1,739]

5 hours ago, Kevin O’Shea said:

Going next month for the wife’s birthday. I have the following locked down.

Friday Night: Rezdora
Saturday Brunch: Boucherie
Saturday Night (During Rice game): Polo Bar

Need pizza recs. Plenty of time to get good za for lunch on Friday and Sunday.

I follow the OneBite app and Angelo’s Coal Oven has high scores near where we’re staying. However the pizza just looks okay to me. Rubirosa looks good to me. Recs please.


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Angelo’s is probably a top 5 pizza spot in Manhattan. Stick with that

And call it “Za” when you order it

[Landomatic 3,813]

27 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

@PenelopeWitherspoon

It was everything you would imagine it to be. We had 2 spots at one of the 10 seater tables after a short wait at the bar. We had the waiter design the menu for us since they don’t have one set.

Meatballs and spinach for apps



Seafood salad, baked clams and homemade mozzarella with roasted red peppers for the 1st course



Soft shell crab and fried mozzarella for the 2nd course



Sirloin with vinegary peppers, charbroiled lemon chicken and peas with onions and prosciutto for the main



Assorted desserts to finish things off



We had a few bottles of red wine in there and cappuccinos with dessert. Everything was served in just under 3 hours. Amazing place and well worth the price.

 

Bucket list meal right there, man.

[RiverwalkMiner 247]

Any recs on a walking tour company? Definitely not looking for a bus tour. I'm taking my 16 year old daughter for labor day weekend. It's her first trip, and only my second. Staying in midtown. 

Also looking for steak restaurant recommendation for adult birthday celebration. Already had Sparks in April. 

[TwiceHorn 31,429]

21 minutes ago, RiverwalkMiner said:

Any recs on a walking tour company? Definitely not looking for a bus tour. I'm taking my 16 year old daughter for labor day weekend. It's her first trip, and only my second. Staying in midtown. 

Also looking for steak restaurant recommendation for adult birthday celebration. Already had Sparks in April. 

The thing about a Gray Line tour is, you can get off.  And get back on.  I think it's a pretty good way for a newb to see the city.  A walking tour is gonna be tough.  NYC ain't Boston.

[RollLeft 5,040]

On 8/16/2019 at 8:32 PM, Spankytoes said:

@PenelopeWitherspoon

 

 

[Underdog 28,543]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

The thing about a Gray Line tour is, you can get off.  And get back on.  I think it's a pretty good way for a newb to see the city.  A walking tour is gonna be tough.  NYC ain't Boston.

Agreed.  IIRC, they're usually good for a 24hr. period. 

 

2 minutes ago, RollLeft said:

Gonna get a big dish of beef chow mien… 

[Sam Lin 3,550]

6 hours ago, RiverwalkMiner said:

Also looking for steak restaurant recommendation for adult birthday celebration. Already had Sparks in April. 

I'm partial to Keen's for the mutton chop, friends prefer the prime rib there, but there are plenty of fantastic steak restaurant options in that city.

[Spoosner 86]

19 hours ago, RiverwalkMiner said:

Any recs on a walking tour company? Definitely not looking for a bus tour. I'm taking my 16 year old daughter for labor day weekend. It's her first trip, and only my second. Staying in midtown. 

Also looking for steak restaurant recommendation for adult birthday celebration. Already had Sparks in April. 

If you want a walking tour you'll have to pick a neighborhood.  We did a food centric one in Chinatown when my Mom was in town, which was quite enjoyable.  I'm sure you can google any specific neighborhood/walking tour and find plenty of options.  As others have said, not a bad idea to do the bus thing to figure out what areas really interest you, and then focus on those in the following days.

One of my favorite birthdays...the Cote de Boeuf at Minetta Tavern. (Pic is from the interwebs, but it's accurate)

[midtown 3,345]

20 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

The thing about a Gray Line tour is, you can get off.  And get back on.  I think it's a pretty good way for a newb to see the city.

This.  Pretty much the first thing I suggested to anyone coming to visit me when I lived in the city.  It takes you to every attraction you want to see.  If you have time take the one that goes all the way up to the cloisters

[Lazarus Bocanegra 304]

Did a quick weekend recently to take some clients to the Houston v. NYCFC game.  I have not been since construction turned LGA into worse of a shitshow than its previous incarnation.  The shuttle to the cab stand wasn't working, so I somehow managed to find an uber driver that was willing to brave the hellscape for the meager fare to Flushing and crushed an order of Szechuan Wontons at the White Bear on Prince Street.  An uber from LGA to the UWS was going to run $70.  $13 to flushing, $7 for wontons, and $14 for a LIRR ticket to Penn.  Won that round.  

Spent some time running the westside greenway and did a 12 mile run in Central Park.  Along the way I hopped a citi bike and rode it from 77th and Madison to 39th and 5th in Brooklyn.  Nothing like pretending you're Quicksilver Kevin Bacon on a 50lb lumbering beast.  Those CVT drivetrains are the bee's knees. 

Ate bagels.  Drank coffee.  

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,100]

3 hours ago, Spoosner said:

If you want a walking tour you'll have to pick a neighborhood.  We did a food centric one in Chinatown when my Mom was in town, which was quite enjoyable.  I'm sure you can google any specific neighborhood/walking tour and find plenty of options.  As others have said, not a bad idea to do the bus thing to figure out what areas really interest you, and then focus on those in the following days.

One of my favorite birthdays...the Cote de Boeuf at Minetta Tavern. (Pic is from the interwebs, but it's accurate)

That just made my list next time my dad comes up.  

I add the Cote de Boeuf at Frenchette for consideration.