Non-partisan "Fuck the Status Quo" Thread of Dominance

[Sawbonz 27420]

2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

You left out corporatocracy. 

Or coprotocracy at this point

[TexPx 2316]

We’ve been over this eleventy billion times.
1.) R constituents need/want labor 
2.) D’s are certain they will become lifelong D voters 
3.)They pay a mountain of cash into entitlement programs that they likely won’t draw on
 
fin.

1. Yup. Last time they tried to make E-Verify a law in Texas it died in the Senate.

[BevoAbyss 2057]

This morning, I gave a guest lecture for an art class at a large university in a big city. The topic had to do with art and technology, which fit the prof's syllabus. (The date had been set since the summer).  We probably should have moved it back, given the outcome of the election. But the prof thought my talk would be a nice break from all the politics.

Let me tell you what I saw:

I walked into a medium-sized lecture hall at 9:15am. 60-70 students. Most all the student's faces were filled with sadness, grief, distraught, and looked just flat beaten.

-- Especially the female students. It was beyond grief, beyond fear ... perhaps a catatonic state of resignation of the coming HORROR. It was a SHOCKING scene. One that I will NEVER ever forget. 

The (untenured) prof had told me the university has a policy about being neutral on political discussions (in case I said anything). 

I did not want to get the prof in trouble, but I could not ignore what was before my eyes.

After I got the podium and put on my remote mic, I said something to the effect of:

"Hi everyone, I can tell you are deeply saddened. I feel it too. My girlfriend and I have barely slept the last two nights ...  she is numb, distraught, and sometimes in tears. As we all know ... something important happened on Tuesday. 

"I am told that the university has a policy of being neutral in political discussions. Sorry, but that is utterly impossible. (Immediately, several women began instinctively nodding their heads in agreement. Some dudes, too.)

"Now, I do not want to get your professor in trouble. Let me just say this:

"I am against everything going down in this country since Tuesday night. And I mean EVERYTHING! 

-- (Yes, I shouted a bit .... and this seemed to break through the catatonic state. Some faces changed expression. Others sat up, etc. It was clearly something they did expect to hear ... especially from a white dude possibly around the age of their parents/uncles, etc

"This is horrifying, terrifying, insane, and beyond belief. But, this era was not unforeseen. As many writers and thinkers have noted, Fight Club was a key warning 25 years ago. This danger has been building. I am sorry the news media and other institutions have failed to alert you and society to the dire danger now surrounding us. Just know I get your sadness and I am going to do my best against this world for a better future? How, in my works, I am not sure. But, we must be creative in thinking about how to save your future." (far from a perfect little speech, but it was the best I had without getting prof in trouble. The students need to know the system is insane.)

I then proceeded to my talk, which went great, but Q&A was kinda subdued. Not surprising.

If you had seen the faces of the students, especially the females, you would know there is:

NO FUCKING TRUCE 

Not here, not anywhere. 

(No, I do not have any quick solutions, there are none. But, I am certain there no kind of intellectual-philosophical truce possible. None. You don't bargain your soul with fascists.)

Edited November 8 by BevoAbyss

[Frank Drebin 5621]

1 minute ago, BevoAbyss said:

This morning, I gave a guest lecture for an art class at a large university in a big city. The topic had to do with art and technology, which fit the prof's syllabus. (The date had been set since the summer).  We probably should have moved it back, given the outcome of the election. But the prof thought my talk would be a nice break from all the politics.

Let me tell you what I saw:

I walked into a medium-sized lecture hall at 9:15am. 60-70 students. Most all the student's faces were filled with sadness, grief, distraught, and looked just flat beaten.

-- Especially the female students. It was beyond grief, beyond fear ... perhaps a catatonic state of resignation of the coming HORROR. It was a SHOCKING scene. One that I will NEVER ever forget. 

The (untenured) prof had told me the university has a policy about being neutral on political discussions (in case I said anything). 

I did not want to get the prof in trouble, but I could not ignore what was before my eyes.

After I got the podium and put on my remote mic, I said something to the effect of:

"Hi everyone, I can tell you are deeply saddened. I feel it too. My girlfriend and I have barely slept the last two nights ...  she is numb, distraught, and sometimes in tears. As we all know ... something important happened on Tuesday. 

"I am told that the university has a policy of being neutral in political discussions. Sorry, but that is utterly impossible. (Immediately, several women began instinctively nodding their heads in agreement. Some dudes, too.)

"Now, I do not want to get your professor in trouble. Let me just say this:

"I am against everything going down in this country since Tuesday night. And I mean EVERYTHING! 

-- (Yes, I shouted a bit .... and this seemed to break through the catatonic state. Some faces changed expression. Others sat up, etc. It was clearly something they did expect to hear ... especially from a white dude possibly around the age of their parents/uncles, etc

"This is horrifying, terrifying, and beyond belief. But, this era was not unforeseen. As many writers and thinkers have noted, Fight Club was a key warning 25 years ago. This danger has been building. I am sorry the news media and other institutions have failed to alert you and society to the dire danger now surrounding us. Just know I get your sadness and I am going to do my best against this world for a better future? How, in my works, I am not sure. But, we must be creative in thinking about how to save your future."

I then proceeded to my talk, which went great, but Q&A was kinda subdued. Not surprising.

If you had seen the faces of the students, especially the females, you would know there is:

NO FUCKING TRUCE 

Not here, not anywhere. 

Did everyone stand and clap?

[TeeDubya 3358]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Even then, there was no confidence in getting support from the Latino community. 

The Latino community, as we are often reminded, is not a homogenous group.  It's as widely varied politically as culturally.

[B00M 6280]

3 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Did everyone stand and clap?

Heh.. heh..

 

[pacman 7327]

Speaking of truce, can we all agree the Russian interference and disinformation in this country is out of control? Highlighted by 100s of bomb threats from Russia at polling stations on Tuesday. Highlighted by influencers being paid by Russia to spread lies in the USA 

That can't happen.

Is that an agreeable stance for all?

[mchookem 16206]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

That was not my intention. The hope for this thread also included a place to have civil, ongoing discussion after Trump takes office. Not that people couldn't challenge ideas or policies that could be enacted during his upcoming administration. 

Truce was probably a poor word choice. I'd like to have a place where we can discuss things with the temperature turned down. 

 

 

i mean it's a noble intent. posrep for the effort. 

i just honestly think it may be too soon. too many still angry, too many still gloating, too many scared...

hell it's day three and i'm still spontaneously crying, and i live in a midnight blue state and don't even have children to worry about!  i've had two full days of phone convos with people in my life that also haven't stopped grieving and frankly several are completely terrified. and there are still too many just laughing at that, right on this site. 

so... i'm just saying...maybe...

[SydneyCarton 47872]

1 hour ago, hornmpa96 said:

I don’t have any insight into the Google situation specifically; however, Google is a massive business with many different segments/operations. Let’s assume a business has 2 different segments: one is wildly profitable and the other is losing money.

Should the business be allowed to layoff people in the nonprofitable operation? Are they required to keep those people forever and siphon the profits from the first business to paying those in the loser?

Stock buybacks are consistently viewed as some terrible aspect of corporate America today. From my perspective, buybacks are merely an indication that the Company generates more cash flow than it can invest in other opportunities profitably. Occasionally buybacks are abused and the Company ends up taking on debt which can have negative repercussions. 

It’s just another way to return cash to shareholders. Are dividends bad?

I’ve worked in and around Fortune 1000 companies for my entire career. Almost every organization has some level of fat which can be trimmed. 

Educate yourself. They didn’t trim fat. They trimmed core employees in charge of product in a profitable section of alphabet to then do massive buybacks. 

1 hour ago, gsoda3 said:

Everyone has a moral compass.  How do you separate an opinion from the framework of your morality? That's what you're asking for but only for the religious. 

She’s only asking for the religious because everyone else has an existing framework. It’s called laws and the legal system. We’re all subject to it. The problem is that despite a Legal separation of church and state, at least in the condition, some people insist of also subject their personal moral compass onto others who don’t share that religion. Which makes it oppression when they try to make universal laws based on their religious morality. 

1 hour ago, Frank Drebin said:

Unless you want to get popped by the EEOC or invite a lawsuit for national origin discrimination.

There should be a better way.  And employers who turn a blind eye should be punished.  Maybe there could be a bipartisan effort here.

There won’t. Why don’t companies enforce the laws on the books now? This new regime will have all 3 branches of government, including both chambers of congress. They will have a popular vote mandate. What conclusions will you draw personally if they do NOT enforce the laws on the books currently? 

[Hank Kingsley 20680]

3 minutes ago, mchookem said:

i mean it's a noble intent. posrep for the effort. 

i just honestly think it may be too soon. too many still angry, too many still gloating, too many scared...

hell it's day three and i'm still spontaneously crying, and i live in a midnight blue state and don't even have children to worry about!  i've had two full days of phone convos with people in my life that also haven't stopped grieving and frankly several are completely terrified. and there are still too many just laughing at that, right on this site. 

so... i'm just saying...maybe...

Totally understand. Hopefully in time we can make it work. 

[bad_teammate 13132]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I can put forth a ton of policies, but what's the point the politicians on either side will never for for it?

They killed Roe. They dreamed that shit into existence through unflappable will.

On our side, despite all their fucking horseshit, we are climbing upward constantly towards a brighter and more accepting future. Biden had a trans woman in his cabinet and a black female VP. It's not a smooth, unbroken 45-degree incline, but if you pull back far enough it's damned close to it.

It's very easy to just scroll past the myopic, zero-perspective, "LOOK AT ME!" doomsaying/whining and not let it skew rational perspectives. I highly recommend it.

[mchookem 16206]

43 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Or coprotocracy at this point

[SydneyCarton 47872]

3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

They killed Roe. They dreamed that shit into existence through unflappable will.

On our side, despite all their fucking horseshit, we are climbing upward constantly towards a brighter and more accepting future. Biden had a trans woman in his cabinet and a black female VP. It's not a smooth, unbroken 45-degree incline, but if you pull back far enough it's damned close to it.

It's very easy to just scroll past the myopic, zero-perspective, "LOOK AT ME!" doomsaying/whining and not let it skew rational perspectives. I highly recommend it.

Iran was progressing upward like a motherfucker right until the 60’s. What happened? Assuming bumps in the road don’t become chasms is not a guarantee. 

[Born to Run 6567]

15 minutes ago, pacman said:

Speaking of truce, can we all agree the Russian interference and disinformation in this country is out of control? Highlighted by 100s of bomb threats from Russia at polling stations on Tuesday. Highlighted by influencers being paid by Russia to spread lies in the USA 

That can't happen.

Is that an agreeable stance for all?

R assholes: fake news

[bad_teammate 13132]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Assuming bumps in the road don’t become chasms is not a guarantee. 

It's far more rational, given historical perspective and basic reasoning, than assuming the pothole ahead is actually a chasm. It could be one, sure, but that's not the pattern and there's nothing purposeful that comes from embracing irrational fears.

But we're too reliant on metaphor here, the reality of what we need to do is build bridges towards the people we need to vote with us to get the things we want enacted. Dismissing the vast swathe of American voters as irredeemable isn't emotionally soothing right now, but it's dumb both in terms of practice and in terms of accurately reading the world. People aren't evil, by and large, but they are dumb and easily swayed.

So let's sway them.

[Born to Run 6567]

Just now, bad_teammate said:

It's far more rational, given historical perspective and basic reasoning, than assuming the pothole ahead is actually a chasm. It could be one, sure, but that's not the pattern and there's nothing purposeful that comes from embracing irrational fears.

But we're too reliant on metaphor here, the reality of what we need to do is build bridges towards the people we need to vote with us to get the things we want enacted. Dismissing the vast swathe of American voters as irredeemable isn't emotionally soothing right now, but it's dumb both in terms of practice and in terms of accurately reading the world. People aren't evil, by and large, but they are dumb and easily swayed.

So let's sway them.

How without being evil, because people are not motivated through kindness.  We are insanely selfish, tribal and vindictive. Especially when times get tough.

[bad_teammate 13132]

9 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

How without being evil, because people are not motivated through kindness.  We are insanely selfish, tribal and vindictive. Especially when times get tough.

I've been alive too long to buy into this emo shit about the human race. We are vast; we contain multitudes.

Very few of the grown-ups who voted for the Shitpile did so because they genuinely wanted to hurt someone. Did a few/ten thousand of the dumbass Gen Z'ers who have no life experience or perspective so they think owning people is a legitimate way of life? Sure. But Grandpa Trump-lover is far more ignorant than he is malevolent and he's often very easy to bring on side (in terms of interpersonal positivity, not voting liberal) with love, affection, and non-judgmental outreach. If winning is the goal, of course.

Edited November 8 by bad_teammate

[Brisketexan 104586]

47 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Did everyone stand and clap?

And that student......was Norman Einstein.

[wildcat09 29233]

13 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

It's far more rational, given historical perspective and basic reasoning, than assuming the pothole ahead is actually a chasm. It could be one, sure, but that's not the pattern and there's nothing purposeful that comes from embracing irrational fears.

But we're too reliant on metaphor here, the reality of what we need to do is build bridges towards the people we need to vote with us to get the things we want enacted. Dismissing the vast swathe of American voters as irredeemable isn't emotionally soothing right now, but it's dumb both in terms of practice and in terms of accurately reading the world. People aren't evil, by and large, but they are dumb and easily swayed.

So let's sway them.

You know red/brown shit always gets the reds murdered, right?

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19093]

49 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Did everyone stand and clap?

Your cuntiness knows no bounds, which given where you got your undergrad degree, is completely expected. Current undergrad acceptance rate there is just a tad under 66%.  Talk about academic rigor! LO-Fucking L.

But since this is for policy discussion, I think making good paying jobs available to people without college degrees is a great idea. A lot of folks that work with computers or programming are good at it becuase they have a talent for it. No college degree required. Kamala had a plan for that, which would raise the uneducated amongst us. Seems like a winner IMO.

Edited November 8 by PenelopeWitherspoon

[Frank Drebin 5621]

7 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Your cuntiness knows no bounds, which given where you got your undergrad degree, is completely expected. Current undergrad acceptance rate there is just a tad under 66%.  Talk about academic rigor! LO-Fucking L.

But since this is for policy discussion, I think making good paying jobs available to people without college degrees is a great idea. A lot of folks that work with computers or programming are good at it becuase they have a talent for it. No college degree required. Kamala had a plan for that, which would raise the uneducated amongst us. Seems like a winner IMO.

Is my Order of the Coif JD from Texas good enough for you?

I also passed the CPA on first try.  So my undergrad served me well.  You a CPA?

Edited November 8 by Frank Drebin

[mchookem 16206]

11 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Your cuntiness knows no bounds, which given where you got your undergrad degree, is completely expected. Current undergrad acceptance rate there is just a tad under 66%.  Talk about academic rigor! LO-Fucking L.

But since this is for policy discussion, I think making good paying jobs available to people without college degrees is a great idea. A lot of folks that work with computers or programming are good at it becuase they have a talent for it. No college degree required. Kamala had a plan for that, which would raise the uneducated amongst us. Seems like a winner IMO.

is it aggy?? please tell me it's aggy. that would explain evvverything...

Edited November 8 by mchookem

[bad_teammate 13132]

7 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

You know red/brown shit always gets the reds murdered, right?

Strasser Did Nothing Wrong

[Frank Drebin 5621]

3 minutes ago, mchookem said:

is it aggy?? please tell me it's aggy. that would explain evvverything...

Nope. But that femcel so badly wants to doxx me. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19093]

22 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Is my Order of the Coif JD from Texas good enough for you?

I also passed the CPA on first try.  So my undergrad served me well.  You a CPA?

I am a CPA. Also passed it on my first try. I also graduated Magna cum laude because I believed having a good time was more important than Civ 2 my senior year. I am also 3 hours short of a separate economics degree, but I did not take one course becuse I had too many scheduling conflicts. Your point? 

Edited November 8 by PenelopeWitherspoon

[Born to Run 6567]

24 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I've been alive too long to buy into this emo shit about the human race. We are vast; we contain multitudes.

Very few of the grown-ups who voted for the Shitpile did so because they genuinely wanted to hurt someone. Did a few/ten thousand of the dumbass Gen Z'ers who have no life experience or perspective so they think owning people is a legitimate way of life? Sure. But Grandpa Trump-lover is far more ignorant than he is malevolent and he's often very easy to bring on side (in terms of interpersonal positivity, not voting liberal) with love, affection, and non-judgmental outreach. If winning is the goal, of course.

You didn't answer the question.  Unlike my wife I'm treating the other side with kindness. I'm taking an old ass hard R evangelical client fishing next week. Im going to be kind and show him a good time.  I'm walking a lonely high road in real life.  But how do you counter our selfish instincts plus a coordinated push from foreign adversaries that we did zero about plus our fucked media. Siloing  more isn't the way, what is?

 

[Iceman 2639]

1 hour ago, pacman said:

Speaking of truce, can we all agree the Russian interference and disinformation in this country is out of control? Highlighted by 100s of bomb threats from Russia at polling stations on Tuesday. Highlighted by influencers being paid by Russia to spread lies in the USA 

That can't happen.

Is that an agreeable stance for all?

The agreeable stance is to turn off all news within 90 days of the election.

The misinformation and selective reporting is comical if it was not so deliberate.

Turn off the russian bots.  Turn off all of it.  Turn of Cris Collinsworth too.

[ChiTownDoc 21098]

A few days ago in the glee that was the ‘keep the party going’ thread I said I really didn’t think 40% plus of the country was racist/sexist shitbags.  I was shouted down and told that pretty much everyone voting for Trump is just that.  
 

I think after seeing how many minorities and women voted for Trump I am somewhat vindicated.  Yes that party and man have a lot of assholes voting for them.  But that’s far from the whole block.  Ironically, that side feels a lot more like a melting pot than the left which wants to beat everyone over the head if they don’t march in step with the company line.  I voted straight D just like the last few elections but I never thought everyone on the other side is an asshole.  
 

No matter what you think, if you really want the Dems to win more, they absolutely have to change the way they market to the average voter.  

[Frank Drebin 5621]

Can we agree vote count should be finished on day of election?  Not talking about any recounts.  But what Arizona and Nevada do is absurd.  They should change their laws.  

[Hank Kingsley 20680]

16 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

I'm walking a lonely high road in real life.  

It's tough. But at least you sleep well at night. 

 

 

[Ghost of Stevie Ray 1577]

Until maga starts holding him accountable to his failures and his disunity….instead of defending every single act that he does….Im not sure how there could be any truce. Jmo 

[CTC2 2745]

1 hour ago, pacman said:

Speaking of truce, can we all agree the Russian interference and disinformation in this country is out of control? Highlighted by 100s of bomb threats from Russia at polling stations on Tuesday. Highlighted by influencers being paid by Russia to spread lies in the USA 

That can't happen.

Is that an agreeable stance for all?

I blame Biden for that. He should have cut the power in Moscow via cyber after the first one.  
I don’t understand why people don’t stop for a second and think about why Russia would have an interest in suppressing the vote in heavily D areas?

[Iceman 2639]

5 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Can we agree vote count should be finished on day of election?  Not talking about any recounts.  But what Arizona and Nevada do is absurd.  They should change their laws.  

If they ain't in by 7PM  on Wednesday, then your state's electoral votes are split 50/50. and no deliberate shenanigans to get that split either.

Get with the fucking progrum.

Edited November 8 by Iceman

[Pancho 44466]

States have tried to change their laws to make tabulating votes easier and faster.

Who voted those down? Republicans.

[SydneyCarton 47872]

The democratic platform is soup to nuts a fucking loser. The American public just told everyone paying attention that fact. It’s a fucking loser. All branches of government and a popular vote fucking loss. How many people here would have bet their life savings that Trump loses the popular vote, even if he lost the presidency? Every motherfucker that posts in the CR. 
 

You can blame low educated voters. You can blame a media based on profit versus informing citizens. You can blame whoever the fuck you want. But it’s a fucking loser. That video Bo&W posted was right; introspection. You can’t make changes if you don’t win, and you’re not winning on your current platform. 
 

this isn’t a rah rah post for the right. It’s just a fact. Loser platform. 50% of white women said fuck off. 45% of Latinos said go fuck yourself. Young men of all demographics said eat my ass. Blaming messaging and libsplaining some principle skinner bullshit. “Oh if they just didn’t understand.” America is fucking dumb. You can’t make them understand. Stop trying. Figure out a new platform and new messaging because America sucks right now. And the right sucks balls too but at the end of the day no one seems fucking happy except the trolls over here dunking on their day of identity politics victory. 

 

[CTC2 2745]

11 minutes ago, Iceman said:

The agreeable stance is to turn off all news within 90 days of the election.

The misinformation and selective reporting is comical if it was not so deliberate.

Turn off the russian bots.  Turn off all of it.  Turn of Cris Collinsworth too.

I’m on day 2 after deleting my Twitter and not watching the news.  Going to spend that time trying to get better on the guitar. 

[SydneyCarton 47872]

4 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

I blame Biden for that. He should have cut the power in Moscow via cyber after the first one.  
I don’t understand why people don’t stop for a second and think about why Russia would have an interest in suppressing the vote in heavily D areas?

No one will answer that question here 

[BurntOrange&White 39644]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

The democratic platform is soup to nuts a fucking loser. The American public just told everyone paying attention that fact. It’s a fucking loser. All branches of government and a popular vote fucking loss. How many people here would have bet their life savings that Trump loses the popular vote, even if he lost the presidency? Every motherfucker that posts in the CR. 
 

You can blame low educated voters. You can blame a media based on profit versus informing citizens. You can blame whoever the fuck you want. But it’s a fucking loser. That video Bo&W posted was right; introspection. You can’t make changes if you don’t win, and you’re not winning on your current platform. 
 

this isn’t a rah rah post for the right. It’s just a fact. Loser platform. 50% of white women said fuck off. 45% of Latinos said go fuck yourself. Young men of all demographics said eat my ass. Blaming messaging and libsplaining some principle skinner bullshit. “Oh if they just didn’t understand.” America is fucking dumb. You can’t make them understand. Stop trying. Figure out a new platform and new messaging because America sucks right now. And the right sucks balls too but at the end of the day no one seems fucking happy except the trolls over here dunking on their day of identity politics victory. 

 

X-posting the video here for reference(assuming this is what you're talking about)

 

 

 

[SydneyCarton 47872]

8 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

Can we agree vote count should be finished on day of election?  Not talking about any recounts.  But what Arizona and Nevada do is absurd.  They should change their laws.  

I referenced this in my federal voting laws post. States do what they want but there needs to be uniform reporting guidelines. Shockingly no one responded on my post. 

Edited November 8 by SydneyCarton

[CTC2 2745]

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

The democratic platform is soup to nuts a fucking loser. The American public just told everyone paying attention that fact. It’s a fucking loser. All branches of government and a popular vote fucking loss. How many people here would have bet their life savings that Trump loses the popular vote, even if he lost the presidency? Every motherfucker that posts in the CR. 
 

You can blame low educated voters. You can blame a media based on profit versus informing citizens. You can blame whoever the fuck you want. But it’s a fucking loser. That video Bo&W posted was right; introspection. You can’t make changes if you don’t win, and you’re not winning on your current platform. 
 

this isn’t a rah rah post for the right. It’s just a fact. Loser platform. 50% of white women said fuck off. 45% of Latinos said go fuck yourself. Young men of all demographics said eat my ass. Blaming messaging and libsplaining some principle skinner bullshit. “Oh if they just didn’t understand.” America is fucking dumb. You can’t make them understand. Stop trying. Figure out a new platform and new messaging because America sucks right now. And the right sucks balls too but at the end of the day no one seems fucking happy except the trolls over here dunking on their day of identity politics victory. 

 

If you look at GOP ad spending this cycle it is probably just that all those people hate trans folks and are worried about a 200 lb former man playing against their daughters high school volleyball team. 

[Frank Drebin 5621]

4 minutes ago, Pancho said:

States have tried to change their laws to make tabulating votes easier and faster.

Who voted those down? Republicans.

In Nevada?

[Iceman 2639]

3 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

I’m on day 2 after deleting my Twitter and not watching the news.  Going to spend that time trying to get better on the guitar. 

On election day, I avoided all news coverage and commentary.  All I did was do the national map and the counties as they updated.

Didn't give a fuck about hearing anything else related to the election day.  Just wanted results.

[BurntOrange&White 39644]

4 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

If you look at GOP ad spending this cycle it is probably just that all those people hate trans folks and are worried about a 200 lb former man playing against their daughters high school volleyball team. 

It’s simple ads that work. Nobody in the current electorate gives a shit about your details policy. That’s why reeling in left wing media that is constantly criticizing their own party is detrimental moving forward. It’s easier to get messaging out when everything is unified. That’s why GOP easily controls narratives even negative ones to them they’re able to flip. 

[SydneyCarton 47872]

8 hours ago, CTC2 said:

If you look at GOP ad spending this cycle it is probably just that all those people hate trans folks and are worried about a 200 lb former man playing against their daughters high school volleyball team. 

And they didn’t just win, they pistol whipped democrats across the board. So I guess they showed you whose balls. You can be infuriated and indignant all you want, but that ad blitz just took and sustained every branch of government, which historically is pretty rare. 
 

im sure theyre happy with their investment dollars. Are you happy with the result of the record breaking donations to Act Blue? Seems like a shit ROI to me. 

Edited November 8 by SydneyCarton

[bad_teammate 13132]

40 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

Siloing more isn't the way, what is?

No longer looking defining the guy you're going fishing with by his voting history or even his political beliefs. No longer asking people who they voted for or trying to divine their beliefs. Starting to ignore what they say that is clearly just mindless or reflexive, figuring out where their better angels are, and speaking directly to those better angels.

To me this isn't even about walking on a high, lonely road, it's about not becoming a completely miserable piece of shit in my own life.

13 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

X-posting the video here for reference(assuming this is what you're talking about)

I think the Tik Tok gay is right about how fucking annoying liberals are, but I disagree about the election being a referendum on liberal annoyingness.

He's 100% right about this outrage being antithetical to necessary introspection. (The "do you want to be morally superior or do you want to win?" question is one I've asked many many times.)

Edited November 8 by bad_teammate

[Hagbard Celine 10755]

3 hours ago, hornmpa96 said:

From my perspective, buybacks are merely an indication that the Company generates more cash flow than it can invest in other opportunities profitably. Occasionally buybacks are abused and the Company ends up taking on debt which can have negative repercussions. 

It’s just another way to return cash to shareholders. Are dividends bad?

I’ve worked in and around Fortune 1000 companies for my entire career. Almost every organization has some level of fat which can be trimmed. 

are you familiar with the recent history of the boeing corporation?

[CTC2 2745]

4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

And they didn’t just win, they pistol whipped democrats across the board. So I guess they showed you whose balls. You can be infuriated and indignant all you want, but that ad blitz just took and sustained every branch of government, which historically is pretty rare. 
 

im sure there happy with their investment dollars. Are you happy with the result of the record breaking donations to Act Blue? Seems like a shit ROI to me. 

I don’t disagree with anything except your premise that the D agenda was rejected. There was some poll out in the last days of the election that strongly supported the idea that Harris’ policy points were significantly more popular that Trumps. But, a large portion of the polled people had no idea that they were hers and a lot actually thought they were Trumps. 
I agree that the DNC is inept. I agree that people like Schumer need to go.  I’ve gotten several texts from organizations I have donated to in the past asking for money to “fight” Trump’s agenda. I responded to one just to make myself feel better by saying “Not until y'all can pull your head out of your ass”.  
I know no one read it but it made me feel better. 

[Gil Bang 25897]

9 hours ago, Macanudo said:

Searching Mark Kelly on Twitter did not return the desired result.

I got confused and searched Kelly Mark.  

Eyebleach please. 

[SydneyCarton 47872]

3 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

I don’t disagree with anything except your premise that the D agenda was rejected. There was some poll out in the last days of the election that strongly supported the idea that Harris’ policy points were significantly more popular that Trumps. But, a large portion of the polled people had no idea that they were hers and a lot actually thought they were Trumps. 
I agree that the DNC is inept. I agree that people like Schumer need to go.  I’ve gotten several texts from organizations I have donated to in the past asking for money to “fight” Trump’s agenda. I responded to one just to make myself feel better by saying “Not until y'all can pull your head out of your ass”.  
I know no one read it but it made me feel better. 

Messaging doesn’t matter when they never hear your message. 

[CTC2 2745]

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Messaging doesn’t matter when they never hear your message. 

Yeah, you’ve lost me because your response was actually the point I was making.  Geez, has everyone just gone stupid?