Johntay Cook dismissed from the football team.

[Deej 77001]

4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

This kid is smarter than all the posters on this thread combined. He knows how to push buttons and how to market himself, and knows how true the “there’s no such thing as bad press” mantra is. Everyone is talking about him now and he can leverage that for more NIL

[Hermanator 7197]

2 hours ago, South Austin said:

I can seek Oregon taking Cook, but I think he’ll get nowhere near the NIL deal he got from Texas, or that Stewart got from UO.

I don't think they will now. Cook has speed but he doesn't have exceptional speed. 3 of our WRs right now have more speed than him. Cook doesn't have size. 

They're adding Moore who has speed and no size. They don't need Cook. 

[MuellerHorn 4381]

1 hour ago, RGBIII said:

Big time

Man, I want to know what you know. I’m sure it’ll all come out, eventually. 

[Helobious 9477]

Just now, Deej said:

How many third string transfer receivers are the source of significant social media discussion? Exactly one. Tweeting that picture was a smart move exposure-wise

[Fondren & Main 6745]

8 minutes ago, Helobious said:

This kid is smarter than all the posters on this thread combined. He knows how to push buttons and how to market himself, and knows how true the “there’s no such thing as bad press” mantra is. Everyone is talking about him now and he can leverage that for more NIL

The resident dumbass has spoken!

[Hermanator 7197]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

There must have been a lot going on behind the scenes.  Normally someone will happily bring in a guy that was highly ranked even if he hasn't lived up to the hype.

Someone will. I mean even Denver Harris keeps getting chances. 

Doubt it's anyone with a playoff chance is taking him

[ztejas 43597]

1 hour ago, Longboard Horn said:

Wide open, had defenders beat, but dropped way too many passes. The Miss State game was the nail in the coffin for Cook. Golden, Bond, Moore, Bolden and Wingo are more reliable. 

Honestly he should come up to SMU. He would do well there.

Moochie Dixon has done okay at SMU but it's not a particularly easy room to crack and it isn't getting easier. He had 25 catches in '22 and '23 and just 8 so far in '24.

SMU would probably gladly take Wingo.

[texifornia 57202]

3 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Someone will. I mean even Denver Harris keeps getting chances. 

Doubt it's anyone with a playoff chance is taking him

Denver Harris is at UTSA. I doubt that's what Johntay had in mind when he hit the Portal.

[pyrohornIII 4824]

32 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Humility doesn't necessarily correlate to a lack of confidence.

First example of this who came to mind

 

[Skipper 6241]

21 minutes ago, Helobious said:

This kid is smarter than all the posters on this thread combined. He knows how to push buttons and how to market himself, and knows how true the “there’s no such thing as bad press” mantra is. Everyone is talking about him now and he can leverage that for more NIL

Was there really any doubt which poster would have this take?  

Edited November 12 by Skipper

[futureman 22561]

13 minutes ago, ztejas said:

SMU would probably gladly take Wingo.

doubtful

[Funk Doctor Spock 12553]

Cook is a bitch for quitting on his team in the middle of a CFP run, and then being a petty fuck face posting pics of himself in cosplay

[Jimmy Two Times 808]

33 minutes ago, Helobious said:

This kid is smarter than all the posters on this thread combined. He knows how to push buttons and how to market himself, and knows how true the “there’s no such thing as bad press” mantra is. Everyone is talking about him now and he can leverage that for more NIL

This is actually true because if you combine all the posters on this thread, Helobious' intelligence alone weighs the average down to a step above an insect. 

[Vito Andolini 9135]

29 minutes ago, ztejas said:

SMU would probably gladly take Wingo.

Why is Wingo being discussed? Brain fart, and you meant Cook? Because every program would gladly take Wingo, no probably about it.

[smuggs 9354]

[Rimbo 26172]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Humility doesn't necessarily correlate to a lack of confidence.

Humility correlates strongly WITH confidence.

"Confidence" without humility is Arrogance: A way to hide self-doubt by puffing yourself up.

[Rimbo 26172]

47 minutes ago, Helobious said:

This kid is smarter than all the posters on this thread combined. He knows how to push buttons and how to market himself, and knows how true the “there’s no such thing as bad press” mantra is. Everyone is talking about him now and he can leverage that for more NIL

[Rimbo 26172]

27 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Was there really any doubt which poster would have this take?  

I used to think that Helo wasn't a bit; that he was just stupid.

Now I'm convinced that this is a bit.

I refuse to believe that anyone can be this stupid.

[BurntEyes 6038]

1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

Humility correlates strongly WITH confidence.

"Confidence" without humility is Arrogance: A way to hide self-doubt by puffing yourself up.

All the biggest bad asses I've know in business and sports or otherwise never talked themselves up. 

They felt no need to do so. They were humble and had self confidence that their performance would illustrate they're abilities or had already. 

[Vito Andolini 9135]

I think you guys are being tough on Johntay: he’s actually the most consistent receiver on the team.

2023: 8 receptions 136 yards

2024: 8 receptions 137 yards

 

[Rimbo 26172]

1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

All the biggest bad asses I've know in business and sports or otherwise never talked themselves up. 

They felt no need to do so. They were humble and had self confidence that their performance would illustrate they're abilities or had already. 

Talking yourself up isn't the issue. Some things require it for marketing and visibility. A little self-PR can go a long way. Nobody will see the work I do if I don't yell about it; you only notice it when I fuck up.

[BurntEyes 6038]

15 minutes ago, Jimmy Two Times said:

This is actually true because if you combine all the posters on this thread, Helobious' intelligence alone weighs the average down to a step above an insect. 

The Honey Bees would like a word with you.

[BurntEyes 6038]

Just now, Rimbo said:

Talking yourself up isn't the issue. Some things require it for marketing and visibility. A little self-PR can go a long way. Nobody will see the work I do if I don't yell about it; you only notice it when I fuck up.

Yeah well, most of them just say stuff like "I got this." "I'm capable", "I appreciate the opportunity", "look forward to the opportunity".

Not "Hold my beer".

[Rimbo 26172]

1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

Yeah well, most of them just say stuff like "I got this." "I'm capable", "I appreciate the opportunity", "look forward to the opportunity".

Not "Hold my beer".

It depends, seriously. Muhammad Ali was always talking himself up... it wasn't arrogance; it was part of the show. Deion Sanders, while he had minor flaws, wasn't talking himself up for nothing. All part of the show.

[ztejas 43597]

13 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

Why is Wingo being discussed? Brain fart, and you meant Cook? Because every program would gladly take Wingo, no probably about it.

Because I'm joking.

[BERT 4394]

1 hour ago, Helobious said:

This kid is smarter than all the posters on this thread combined. He knows how to push buttons and how to market himself, and knows how true the “there’s no such thing as bad press” mantra is. Everyone is talking about him now and he can leverage that for more NIL

Well what else is he going to put on social media? His game film? 

[Vertuzzi 1401]

1 hour ago, texifornia said:

Denver Harris is at UTSA. I doubt that's what Johntay had in mind when he hit the Portal.

They never do, but sometimes reality is a tough pill to swallow. 

[General Specific 3295]

Well what else is he going to put on social media? His game film? 

Nice.

Reminds me of the world’s shortest books. Great German Chefs, Great French War Heros!

[6th Street 6509]

Tremendous talent but not a complete WR. Will be up to the next team to turn him into a better pass catcher and blocker. Otherwise no different than one of those fast combine guys that gets drafted by the Raiders then flames out. 

[Beau Vine 54486]

1 hour ago, Hermanator said:

I don't think they will now. Cook has speed but he doesn't have exceptional speed. 3 of our WRs right now have more speed than him. Cook doesn't have size. 

They're adding Moore who has speed and no size. They don't need Cook. 

See, you're thinking logically.  

Now do Dan Lanning.

[Lou_Sassle 2905]

1 hour ago, Helobious said:

This kid is smarter than all the posters on this thread combined. He knows how to push buttons and how to market himself, and knows how true the “there’s no such thing as bad press” mantra is. Everyone is talking about him now and he can leverage that for more NIL

 

[Stunns38 3607]

 
I'm sure plenty of teams would take a chance on a former highly rated guy for minimal NIL commitment. If Cook still believes he's a star despite all the film he's put out to the contrary then he's going to have a hard time finding a team. 

If Dykes at TCU doesn’t take him then we know something is wrong. He specializes in taking 5-star busts.

[LTtxfan 49386]

On shit... Tay has just been "Helob'd

yikes 😬

[Nigel Tufnel 200]

Lil’ Nigel was on an unofficial to UT with Johntay a couple of falls back.  He was a big personality.

[Vertuzzi 1401]

45 minutes ago, Nigel Tufnel said:

Lil’ Nigel was on an unofficial to UT with Johntay a couple of falls back.  He was a big personality.

Lil’ Nigel sounds like the illest British rapper to ever come out of Manchester. 

[Rimbo 26172]

1 hour ago, Stunns38 said:

If Dykes at TCU doesn’t take him then we know something is wrong. He specializes in taking 5-star busts.

Please. Stunns38. The correct nomenclature is "Lesbians at TCU." Thanks.

[Stunns38 3607]

Please. Stunns38. The correct nomenclature is "Lesbians at TCU." Thanks.

Sorry. Correction… LGBTQ at TCU. Ellen had some big ass tittays. No cloak

[Hank_Hill 18939]

3 hours ago, smuggs said:

“She got that arch tho 😍” -Aggy

[Cairn Horn88 8289]

I think other players will look at Cook and what he did and is doing, and will hopefully learn something about working hard and being a member of this team….of course, they will want to see how this does or does not work out for Cook.  Life lessons 101.

Edited November 12 by Cairn Horn88

[Bigbend1812 12948]

[BurntEyes 6038]

3 hours ago, Rimbo said:

It depends, seriously. Muhammad Ali was always talking himself up... it wasn't arrogance; it was part of the show. Deion Sanders, while he had minor flaws, wasn't talking himself up for nothing. All part of the show.

Just christ, I was agreeing with your first point. I don't know wtf we're arguing about. 

#Surlyfindsarguementinagreement 

Edited November 12 by BurntEyes

[Tex Long 4487]

9 minutes ago, Bigbend1812 said:

 

Reach over, Mama, and hand me my travelin' shoes...

[Tex Pete 20573]

1 hour ago, Vertuzzi said:

Lil’ Nigel sounds like the illest British rapper to ever come out of Manchester. 

[Dennis Taylor 18892]

3 hours ago, Rimbo said:

I used to think that Helo wasn't a bit; that he was just stupid.

Now I'm convinced that this is a bit.

I refuse to believe that anyone can be this stupid.

 

 

[TrashMaster G 17663]

6 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

These guys were the biggest big men on campus in high school.  I'm honestly surprised how many of them ARE reasonably humble when they hit the 40 Acres.

If you have listened to Sark talk about the recruiting process, this isn't a surprise. He's going to pass on talent that doesn't come with humility. 

[DixonHur 11405]

What's interesting to me is the JC is acting like victim with a straight face after getting mostly 1st team reps in Spring and Fall camps.

Don't act like you weren't given the opportunity.  Others just played better.  That's life.  Work harder and move on.

[Tex Long 4487]

Beyond the drops, it sounds like there are other problems, which might be gathered unter the umbrella of lack of, or even counter, culturization. 

For some reason I have a feeling that he may have had a poor attitude toward being coached. Learning to not drop catchable balls, always running the called route, learning blocking techniques... lack of effort seems like possible problems. 

I dunno. Like many of you, I had high hopes for him. Too bad. Wish him well, just don't expect it.

[Davis Lane 5676]

2 hours ago, Rimbo said:

Please. Stunns38. The correct nomenclature is "Lesbians at TCU." Thanks.

Go on.

[Royale with cheese 1469]

1 hour ago, Tex Long said:

 

Reach over, Mama, and hand me my travelin' shoes...

Goin' up the country, mama. Don't you want to go

[Funk Doctor Spock 12553]

Poor attitude, not asking what he can do to get back into the rotation, what he can work on, stay late for meetings, arrive early to practice like DeAndre Moore, Ryan Wingo, Silas Bolden, Matthew Golden, arrive early for meetings, talk to Sark and Jackson. You know, the little stuff that goes a long way. Work out with Quinn and Arch to get a grasp on their throws. 

Sounds like he expected to be in the starting rotation without actually putting in the work, and when he didn't get his way he started to become a cancer, so Sark cut him loose. 

All speculation, but it seems like that would be it.