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I’d actually not be surprised at all to learn that Kenny D passed on Johntay. Anybody who knows about him and what he has brought to the Valley would have guessed that would be his position on a kid like that.

Man, there’s not a great track record of success for the top rated WR in the state here recently. Demas, Earle, Stewart, Cook, and Hudson. Earle might be questionable but I think the next guy was a kid who now plays at SFA. I’ll never understand why anyone would think becoming a malcontent in the middle of the season is a wise choice even if you do have eyes on the portal. It looks even worse when the other two WRs in your class got zero burn last year, had much more reason to explore other options in the spring and summer, decided to stay, one literally added extra responsibilities at a brand new position to help the team with depth, and the other dude committed to filling the big shoes JWhitt left behind as a leader/glue guy.

I mean, I suppose somebody could’ve been in his ear saying his position coach is giving preferential treatment to a kid from his HS alma mater, but all you would need to refute that is film and first hand accounts of Moore’s habits and demeanor. If he’s thinking his talent exempts him from following that example, he better hope to God that other programs only look at his HS highlight reel and don’t bother to find out what he has done since then. He should also hope they don’t take a look at how Sark treated Maalik and other players who had to decide to enter the portal at the end of last year ahead of the CFP, and how he handled Juan Davis when he asked to return to the team. Seems to me like he is fair and makes his decisions based on merit.

If I was a coach, my response would be: “so, you played as a true freshman on CFP semifinalist, you were on the field in Tuscaloosa at critical moments in your second collegiate game, spent spring and fall camp at the top of the depth chart, got plenty of snaps to start the season, eventually got passed by two dudes who got far less handed to them, and you decided to just check the fuck out because you felt you were being treated unfairly? You didn’t appreciate the team taking three older players out of the portal, but you are asking us to bring you in ahead of the young guys we already have…and pay you handsomely to do so? The second to last relevant snap you have on film is you dropping a wide open TD in a one score game and laughing about it? You left a place with the most talented QB room in the country, where they just put three dudes at your position in the league, and you want us to believe your lack of success isn’t your own fault? Who is your advisor, again? Actually, it doesn’t matter. Thanks for your time.”

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3 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Just christ, I was agreeing with your first point. I don't know wtf we're arguing about. 

#Surlyfindsarguementinagreement 

Well fuck you! I was agreeing with you too! You asshole!

(I'm not even sure what's going on any more, just rolling with it)

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5 hours ago, SamMan said:

I’d actually not be surprised at all to learn that Kenny D passed on Johntay. Anybody who knows about him and what he has brought to the Valley would have guessed that would be his position on a kid like that.

Man, there’s not a great track record of success for the top rated WR in the state here recently. Demas, Earle, Stewart, Cook, and Hudson. Earle might be questionable but I think the next guy was a kid who now plays at SFA. I’ll never understand why anyone would think becoming a malcontent in the middle of the season is a wise choice even if you do have eyes on the portal. It looks even worse when the other two WRs in your class got zero burn last year, had much more reason to explore other options in the spring and summer, decided to stay, one literally added extra responsibilities at a brand new position to help the team with depth, and the other dude committed to filling the big shoes JWhitt left behind as a leader/glue guy.

I mean, I suppose somebody could’ve been in his ear saying his position coach is giving preferential treatment to a kid from his HS alma mater, but all you would need to refute that is film and first hand accounts of Moore’s habits and demeanor. If he’s thinking his talent exempts him from following that example, he better hope to God that other programs only look at his HS highlight reel and don’t bother to find out what he has done since then. He should also hope they don’t take a look at how Sark treated Maalik and other players who had to decide to enter the portal at the end of last year ahead of the CFP, and how he handled Juan Davis when he asked to return to the team. Seems to me like he is fair and makes his decisions based on merit.

If I was a coach, my response would be: “so, you played as a true freshman on CFP semifinalist, you were on the field in Tuscaloosa at critical moments in your second collegiate game, spent spring and fall camp at the top of the depth chart, got plenty of snaps to start the season, eventually got passed by two dudes who got far less handed to them, and you decided to just check the fuck out because you felt you were being treated unfairly? You didn’t appreciate the team taking three older players out of the portal, but you are asking us to bring you in ahead of the young guys we already have…and pay you handsomely to do so? The second to last relevant snap you have on film is you dropping a wide open TD in a one score game and laughing about it? You left a place with the most talented QB room in the country, where they just put three dudes at your position in the league, and you want us to believe your lack of success isn’t your own fault? Who is your advisor, again? Actually, it doesn’t matter. Thanks for your time.”

That’s a ton of words. They like what Moore and Niblett do more. Done. 

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11 hours ago, Rimbo said:

no no no this is no good, if they're all lesbians then I don't have a chance!

Well, I'm gonna have to disagree with you once again. Looking at the pic, doing and doing some quick math using the metrics below, the following has to be true. (I'm rounding up cause math is hard)

3 of those women identify as LGBTQ+, but 2 of 9 or close to 20% identify as bisexual. Odds are with only 5% identifying as gay, there is a better chance #3 LGBTQ+ is bisexual or bicurios than lesbian. The rest are most likely straight.

So, I regretfully have to inform you, you do have a chance with all but possibly 1 of them by the metrics. 

I good news, that means I do too. I'm a team player and I'm willing to take the 2 bisexual women out of the lineup to be on team BurntEyes. That means your only facing 6 women that you have a chance with thereby slightly reducing your chances of cheating on your partner.

#scienceyourewelcomerimbo

“Almost 30% of Gen Z women identify as LGBTQ+, most as bisexual,” Jeffrey Jones, a senior editor at Gallup, told NBC News. “That’s where a lot of the growth seems to be happening.”

The group most likely to identify as LGBTQ, by far, was Generation Z women (ages 18 to 26), 28.5% of whom identified as LGBTQ in the survey. The lion’s share of them, of all Gen Z women surveyed, 20.7%, identified as bisexual, followed by 5.4% who identified as lesbians. 

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3 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

When’s the last time you went to Walmart?

I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S A LACK OF EVIDENCE

7 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Well, I'm gonna have to disagree with you once again. Looking at the pic, doing and doing some quick math using the metrics below, the following has to be true. (I'm rounding up cause math is hard)

3 of those women identify as LGBTQ+, but 2 of 9 or close to 20% identify as bisexual. Odds are with only 5% identifying as gay, there is a better chance #3 LGBTQ+ is bisexual or bicurios than lesbian. The rest are most likely straight.

So, I regretfully have to inform you, you do have a chance with all but possibly 1 of them by the metrics. 

I good news, that means I do too. I'm a team player and I'm willing to take the 2 bisexual women out of the lineup to be on team BurntEyes. That means your only facing 6 women that you have a chance with thereby slightly reducing your chances of cheating on your partner.

#scienceyourewelcomerimbo

“Almost 30% of Gen Z women identify as LGBTQ+, most as bisexual,” Jeffrey Jones, a senior editor at Gallup, told NBC News. “That’s where a lot of the growth seems to be happening.”

The group most likely to identify as LGBTQ, by far, was Generation Z women (ages 18 to 26), 28.5% of whom identified as LGBTQ in the survey. The lion’s share of them, of all Gen Z women surveyed, 20.7%, identified as bisexual, followed by 5.4% who identified as lesbians. 

NBC Article on Sexual Identity

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Damn. Just looked. People talking some serious trash to him. The one below is pretty bad. Another wondered what would he catch first? A ball or a possession charge. Brutal. Another pointed out that his agent needs to reign him in. I agree with that one. I wish him the best. Not doing himself any favors. 

 

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9 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Damn. Just looked. People talking some serious trash to him. The one below is pretty bad. Another wondered what would he catch first? A ball or a possession charge. Brutal. Another pointed out that his agent needs to reign him in. I agree with that one. I wish him the best. Not doing himself any favors. 

 

 

1 minute ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Yea, at some point you have to be empathetic and remember that he's still a teenager/young adult making bad choices. 

Dude has been yapping so fucking much and shit talking Texas and Texas recruits. Fuck him. He's being a whiny fucking bitch....so he can go fuck himself and he deserves every bit of shit he's being given. And lets be perfectly clear, he didn't leave on good terms. He was removed from the team because he was a fucking net negative to the team because his complaining and bitching.

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17 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Dude has been yapping so fucking much and shit talking Texas and Texas recruits. Fuck him. He's being a whiny fucking bitch....so he can go fuck himself and he deserves every bit of shit he's being given. And lets be perfectly clear, he didn't leave on good terms. He was removed from the team because he was a fucking net negative to the team because his complaining and bitching.

Not sure how any of it is worth your anger.

 

18 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Yea, at some point you have to be empathetic and remember that he's still a teenager/young adult making bad choices. 

This so much. He is a young man whose is now operating outside structure. He may not have caring people around him giving him good advice and not have a good emotional foundation to make decisions that are in his best interest.

I was friends w former Texas swim coach, Richard Quick. He said the best athletes often couldn't handle not being the star at the college level. We may be seeing this here. It must be scary to be a young man without any life plan outside of 'making it to the league,' and then suddenly having that removed from your life. 

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1 minute ago, TreatyOak said:

Not sure how any of it is worth your anger.

 

This so much. He is a young man whose is now operating outside structure. He may not have caring people around him giving him good advice and not have a good emotional foundation to make decisions that are in his best interest.

I was friends w former Texas swim coach, Mike Quick. He said the best athletes often couldn't handle not being the star at the college level. We may be seeing this here. It must be scary to be a young man without any life plan outside of 'making it to the league,' and then suddenly having that removed from your life. 

Which is odd since there are literally hundreds of thousands of examples of players not making it to the NFL. Ego gets the best of us all.

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7 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

He's talking shit on the internet and shit is getting talked back to him on the internet. Who gives a shit?

Umm, Apparently Cook and the people talking back to him. You answered your own question. They are both exchanging shits. They are both givers of excrement.

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8 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

He's talking shit on the internet and shit is getting talked back to him on the internet. Who gives a shit?

I just checked out his feed and I don't see the posts where he's trashing Texas. Did he pull the bad ones down? I do see recent posts where is he praising his former teammates, like Baron, Baxter and Weisner. 

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4 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

So true. Ego and jealousy can be a career killer. 

It’s all fear based. This kid tapped into his insecurities instead of building character and getting better. Instead of confronting himself and saying “damn, guys are starting to pass me up. I need to get better.” It’s easier in the short term to talk shit and bitch until you’re a detriment and the coach nuke’s you off the team. Hopefully that wakes him up and he has a better attitude at the next place and doesn’t double down and waste all that potential.

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2 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

Damn. Just looked. People talking some serious trash to him. The one below is pretty bad. Another wondered what would he catch first? A ball or a possession charge. Brutal. Another pointed out that his agent needs to reign him in. I agree with that one. I wish him the best. Not doing himself any favors. 

 

Bro, the comment on catching a ball or a possession charge has me rolling 😂

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I really wish he would just shut the fuck up, look in the mirror, find inner peace, and stop blaming others. It's killing his opportunities at playing for another high P4 team. Coaches see that kind of crap and they're like "Nope. Don't need that shit in my locker room". 

I have nothing against this kid. He did it to himself, and he has hanger-ons. People who get in his ear and shit talk programs and other plauers, regardless of schools. I'm sure he's an intelligent young man, but he's insecure and let's hobos talk to him. I remember the story about Trent Richardson saying the same thing. He regrets the people who were there when he was success, but baled when he went broke. 

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1 hour ago, Hookem10 said:

What if he came back. That would be crazy. Full blown apology and redemption story. It could happen 

 

1 hour ago, Newdoc said:

Umm, Apparently Cook and the people talking back to him. You answered your own question. They are both exchanging shits. They are both givers of excrement.

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55 minutes ago, SHOOTER12 said:

I thought that some point in the past Sark said "make sure when you go in the portal because there ain't no coming back"?

He's taken a couple guys (Blue, Davis) back, but neither of them spent a week showing their ass on Twitter or had half the bad off-field rumors Cook has.

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