The New Democratic Platform

[LCHorn 2629]

11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

But Democratic candidates can't help fight that by ducking the culture war issues; they already do that and it's that ducking that contributes to that very feeling among many people.

To echo this, that was his main point (not necessarily on the merits of trans rights, itself), but that she didn’t adequately respond to a voters perception that her priorities would favor this over their own economic concerns.  
 

This is a little bit adding my own analysis (on what he said), but I think he would agree that a) female candidate of color, b) running as a Dem, c) short campaign timeline so only a limited amount of messaging can be broadcast made it harder than it should have been to test what voters needed to be told about candidate Harris and her priorities that would move them to supper her.  
 

The whole thing is worth a listen because Miller (who is gay and therefore a little more intimately familiar with voter data when LGBT issues are involved) is willing to debate the guests and not just take on faith an analysis that might feel true but could be overlooking something in search of that explanation (like your point about the swing state/trans advertising).  
 

Anyway, bringing this back to the OP, I don’t think there are any grand takeaways here besides don’t skip a primary season again (which is team Biden’s fault).  

[Nice Guy Eddie 13519]

7 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

Promise free universal healthcare, paid for by tough negotiations with healthcare providers and pharmaceutical companies that will result in everyone paying less than they were thru private insurers.  Bumper stickers that say “Candidate Name 2028: FUCK INSURANCE COMPANIES” would be effective.

free universal healthcare could be subtitled, "worse healthcare for all".

the problem isn't that the US pays too much for drugs, which we do, the problem is that the rest of the world is a free rider for these drugs. Pass a law that we will pay the median price negotiated by other western countries. Force them to cover more of the costs and profits of the pharm industry. 

[The Original Greaser Bob 2844]

4 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Egalitarianism as a concept is very popular and defending women, minorities, and gay and trans people as part of the fight for egalitarianism against the billionaires trying to divide us so they can treat us all like chattel should not be a hard message to sell.    

This sentence captures what the problem is.  Are billionaires really trying to subdivide us into groups beyond the haves and the have nots?  By slicing and dicing people into genders and races and sexual identifications, we are dividing ourselves. 

Let's stop.   I think trans people are in a unique situation but as far as others, we should help those who are economically disadvantages and stop putting them into groups. 

Dems should pursue radically color and sex blind policies that are based solely on economic need.   They should also favor all forms of social inclusion but not politicize appropriate social behavior.

[LCHorn 2629]

25 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

stop putting them into groups. 

Ezra Klein was on PSA and talked about how this came to be-the Democratic Party is overly beholden to single issue groups from the left and they exaggerate the support for those individual issues as a result.  It’s one reason (and just picking on this because the Republicans used it so effectively) they are afraid of antagonizing the trans rights community by running candidates more willing to signal unfriendliness to their favored issues.  

[The Original Greaser Bob 2844]

7 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

they are afraid of antagonizing the trans rights community by running candidates more willing to signal unfriendliness to their favored issues.

The key is whether not putting trans rights on the front burner "signals unfriendliness".   

Dems need to get over that fast.  I feel like I would fight really hard for various trans rights issues.  I think they are particularly put upon these days.  But there is existential shit going on right now that I would like us to prioritize.  As well as economic and educational opportunity.

[LCHorn 2629]

4 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

The key is whether not putting trans rights on the front burner "signals unfriendliness".

Sean Harris’s point was the failure to break with them is signaling to independents that you agree.

Ezra Klein would also remind us this isn’t just on trans rights-this is a hole host of Dem culture issues and is why the party itself has become toxic.  You have to align yourself with BLM, the socialists, the HRC, the unions, etc., and there is so little room for dissent that it makes it hard to run as anything but a party loyalist.  

[wildcat09 29366]

56 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Dems should pursue radically color and sex blind policies that are based solely on economic need.   .

That's basically what they've been doing for the past several decades.

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They should also favor all forms of social inclusion but not politicize appropriate social behavior

What does this even mean?

For fuck's sake people, can we talk about what Dems actually do vs what a bunch of people who are literally financially invested in pretending they've been doing something else (and need to stop it) pretend they do?