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7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

100% in agreement, it is primarily a cultural and social norm thing. Americans were sold the vision of the single income, middle class family, white picket fence 1950's bill of goods. It's not tenable now, nor has been for the vast majority of human history. 

Most people have no understanding that the American Dream is an ad campaign.

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13 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

That must mean those jobs are coming back to America, right? RIGHT???

If they are, are Americans going to work for similar pay, or are the cost of those goods about to increase bigly?  Is there another alternative result that is better for all of us?

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15 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Americans were sold the vision of the single income, middle class family, white picket fence 1950's bill of goods.

 

This circles back to similar ideas in the young men thread that astounded me. At what time are we talking about here? During the 1950s? I can definitely buy that. But in my lifetime? No one I know would have conceived of this. And I don't say this to deny it is prevalent by any stretch, but just to say it's so foreign to me to have that outdated of a concept of American that I struggle to understand how that got from older generations to younger people these days. It's like electricity arcing over a gap.

10 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Most people have no understanding that the American Dream is an ad campaign.

I mean, that's what I've been saying

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1 minute ago, G650 said:

This circles back to similar ideas in the young men thread that astounded me. At what time are we talking about here? During the 1950s? I can definitely buy that. But in my lifetime? No one I know would have conceived of this. And I don't say this to deny it is prevalent by any stretch, but just to say it's so foreign to me to have that outdated of a concept of American that I struggle to understand how that got from older generations to younger people these days. It's like electricity arcing over a gap.

I mean, that's what I've been saying

Here's what our overlords want us to do. It's not that complicated:

Work. Consume. Shut up.

That's it. That's America.

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2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Here's what our overlords want us to do. It's not that complicated:

Work. Consume. Shut up.

That's it. That's America.

and as long as the wifi stays on most people are fine with it.

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5 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

The pain you feel must be immeasurable and your only balm is the ending of democracy.  Fair trade, eh?

Keep ringing that bell and pissing down your leg.  Its actually getting to the point of comedy.

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13 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

This circles back to similar ideas in the young men thread that astounded me. At what time are we talking about here? During the 1950s? I can definitely buy that. But in my lifetime? No one I know would have conceived of this. And I don't say this to deny it is prevalent by any stretch, but just to say it's so foreign to me to have that outdated of a concept of American that I struggle to understand how that got from older generations to younger people these days. It's like electricity arcing over a gap.

I mean, that's what I've been saying

I don't think it is that it was a 1950s to today, but certainly that is what the propaganda latched onto, young people have not hope right now, from incels to women too (college age women also dramatically voted more for Trump than the previous generations something like +30 for Hillary but +12 for Harris now) its a powder keg that we have been blissfully ignoring, using models that predicted +10 for Harris in that age group and instead got like -5 for her.

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Just now, Degenerate Gardner said:

I am no better than most of you assholes, but at this point in the coping process, I’m not sure I can indulge myself in 4 years of celebrating leopards gorging on faces. Still contemplating the appropriate, healthy level of disengagement. I don’t want to cede what remains of my mental health to anger and resentment because I’m selfish and it would suck for me and my loved ones.

I'm also considering a daily self-roofieing when I take meds and vitamins each morning. There’s a lot of options on the table.

I'm going to try my best to live by the immortal words of St. Zacharias of La Rocha: Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me.

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Sadly not good enough if democracy is still fucked, when people said democracy is in danger like myself we argued that the 2020 margins were not good enough to get rid of him, they would fuck up elections to the point where they fabricate results, see Maduro in Venezuela.

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The people who shifted in this election and those who sat it out might not, though.

That would be good news for Democrats in 2028.

 

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2 minutes ago, linux said:

Sadly not good enough if democracy is still fucked, when people said democracy is in danger like myself we argued that the 2020 margins were not good enough to get rid of him, they would fuck up elections to the point where they fabricate results, see Maduro in Venezuela.

This is the liberal version of stop the steal.

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Just now, David Dennison said:

This is the liberal verision of stop the steal.

No, stop it, stop your high horse, stop the steal was wrong not because it was wrong per se but because it was not backed by anything, it was a lie it was fake. If elections are factually being stolen then STOP THE STEAL.

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

It's not up to him.

Because of senility, he is old and forgetting where he is, my grandma went from that to complete senility 3 years later, like she would repeatedly ask me if I was studying or working every 15 minutes, 5-6 times in an hour long conversation.

I only hope he got rid of Stephen Miller by then.

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This is so so sweet, and perfect for this thread. Dumb boomers (and others) actually believed the Trump commercials that claimed Harris was going to cut Social Security while Trump would preserve it. One of the biggest lies of the entire campaign. Social security must be reformed, and we all know who will cut deeper in favor of more tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

What's awesome about this one is that it directly effects boomers who voted for Trump. Most boomers assumed he would screw only the rest of us who haven't reached social security age yet. It's nice to see them get torched right away.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/11/08/republicans-block-bipartisan-bill-social-security/76127806007/

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1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

And Democrats wonder why the working class has turned away.

Yes, it’s us assholes on surly that gutted the party. Finally someone with the courage to call us out. 

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21 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

and really cuts government spending, doesn't implement tariffs, doesn't restrict immigration too tightly, etc

Well that sounds like what a Republican used to promise, and what the party believed in.  Why can’t that be what happens when Rs are put in charge?  Thats the conservative position. 

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2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

This is so so sweet, and perfect for this thread. Dumb boomers (and others) actually believed the Trump commercials that claimed Harris was going to cut Social Security while Trump would preserve it. One of the biggest lies of the entire campaign. Social security must be reformed, and we all know who will cut deeper in favor of more tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

What's awesome about this one is that it directly effects boomers who voted for Trump. Most boomers assumed he would screw only the rest of us who haven't reached social security age yet. It's nice to see them get torched right away.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/11/08/republicans-block-bipartisan-bill-social-security/76127806007/

Even if that bill never passes, how are they getting torched by the status quo?

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While I do agree laughing at misfortune is therapeudic we need to stop with cackling, I want a party that wants to win, not a party in a high horse that thinks it is right (and yes it is 100% right). Muslims with Palestine are about to learn that hard lesson first.

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1 minute ago, linux said:

While I do agree laughing at misfortune is therapeudic we need to stop with cackling, I want a party that wants to win, not a party in a high horse that thinks it is right (and yes it is 100% right). Muslims with Palestine are about to learn that hard lesson first.

The problem is the way to win is to demonize people and make the electorate scared even though what you say is false.   To win, you must constantly lie about what you do and about what your opponent does. But most of all, to win you have to be absolutely cruel to some group that you’ve decided you will blame everything on.

That is the template for a winning strategy these last several decades.  I don’t particularly want to belong to that party, so I guess I will remain in the losing minority until I die.

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1 hour ago, softlynow said:

I agree with that, but taking it a step further, I think our culture needs to shift towards encouraging multi-generational homes. Management of scarce resources, transportation issues and child care costs/time management could be better addressed if we did.

Probably better for our mental health but also… ew.

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3 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

The problem is the way to win is to demonize people and make the electorate scared even though what you say is false.   To win, you must constantly lie about what you do and about what your opponent does. But most of all, to win you have to be absolutely cruel to some group that you’ve decided you will blame everything on.

That is the template for a winning strategy these last several decades.  I don’t particularly want to belong to that party, so I guess I will remain in the losing minority until I die.

No, what we need to do is have another talking head try to corner a Republican politician for not being able to answer "was the 2020 election stolen?" as some kind of gotcha moment. Doing that multiple times a week has been working out great! People definitely care about the truth.

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5 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

I voted in a way that was against my self interest but which I thought was better for the country. I am now being laughed at and mocked by a bunch of online morons who probably aren't as well off as I am about how big daddy Trump is back and they love the taste of my tears. Excuse me for being a human and thinking "I tried my best bruh. Time for you to touch that hot stove and learn by experience. On you go."

QFT

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7 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

I voted in a way that was against my self interest but which I thought was better for the country. I am now being laughed at and mocked by a bunch of online morons who probably aren't as well off as I am about how big daddy Trump is back and they love the taste of my tears. Excuse me for being a human and thinking "I tried my best bruh. Time for you to touch that hot stove and learn by experience. On you go."

 

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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

So one car instead of two. Got it. My point regarding the cultural social norms wrt multigenerational households is slayed. 

I'd honestly appreciate if you fleshed the point out a bit more because I'm not 100% sure I am totally understanding what you are saying. Yes, it was the norm at some point, but not so much in my lifetime. What @Gatorubet wrote more closely mirrors my experience, though I was born in the 70's. The conception of what middle class life is now bears no resemblance to my childhood whatsoever.

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1 hour ago, Frank Drebin said:

 

Well I, for one, am glad our MAGA frens have crawled out of hiding so they can share rock solid breaking news sources like this one. It may be time for a nap, grandpa 

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