The Leopards Eating Faces and Unlubed Dildo of Consequences Thread

[Brisketexan 105152]

1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

And no one is going to give a shit this time.  

Nor should we.

They literally chose this outcome, in spite of ALL of the evidence and warnings to the contrary.  The only sane response should be

[Anastasis 23474]

8 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

But it’s becoming increasingly clear that, even still, I had somehow managed to overestimate the good in mankind

The real world is enjoyable. This forum is untethered to it. Come outside brick and enjoy the weather. Unless you are in Palestine. In which case you are fuckd  

[BrickHorn 18237]

Just now, Biff Tannen said:

Would you rather us just say, "man, it's sure tough luck that these people are going to get exactly what they voted for?" 

I would rather us not lump divergent groups together. Muslim Americans were placed in a unique moral quandary, far different than, say, Latinos for Trump or pro-life women or just random selfish MAGA assholes who are just now learning that they are the welfare queens they always complained about. Those latter groups are selfish idiots eager to fall for Trump’s lies and willing to see others suffer. Nothing the Dems could say would have swayed those assholes and they deserve whatever pain they get.

But the Dems could have taken fairly small, harmless steps to at least show some good faith to Muslims and earn their votes. And it would have been the right fucking thing to do, you know, to at least show a modicum of sympathy and concern for innocent victims of industrialized slaughter: The party chose not to.

From where I sit as a heartbroken Democrat, the party fucked around and we all found out. We have no one to blame but ourselves. And I won’t take any solace whatsoever that desperate people who saw no good option end up suffering.

[workswithseed 2112]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

The real world is enjoyable. The internet is untethered to it. Come outside brick and enjoy the weather. Unless you are in Palestine. In which case you are fuckd  

Touch grass.

[Superhero 8830]

20 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Lulz

They are idiots to believe the bullshit that Trump said. Trump was pro-Israel in his last term, and his pick of Elise Stefanik to be his UN ambassador will mean she'll support Israel even more.

I feel for the Palestinians in Gaza, but if the electorate in the US were fucking stupid if they thought Trump would do anything to help the situation in Gaza.

[Chewbacca 7780]

4 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

But the Dems could have taken fairly small, harmless steps to at least show some good faith to Muslims and earn their votes. And it would have been the right fucking thing to do, you know, to at least show a modicum of sympathy and concern for innocent victims of industrialized slaughter: The party chose not to.

I'm still waiting for anyone to tell me what else Harris was supposed to do for Gaza.  She called for a ceasefire and said she did not support what is happening there right now. She can't do shit as VP.

[Anastasis 23474]

5 minutes ago, Superhero said:

I feel for the Palestinians in Gaza, but if the electorate in the US were fucking stupid if they thought Trump would do anything to help the situation in Gaza.

Thing is. You can just switch literally any name in place of Trump and the story is the same. Actually not true. Press me and I take the under in terms of dead bodies stacked high under Trump moving forward compared to the reality under Biden. 

Edited November 12 by Anastasis

[mchookem 16336]

13 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

If Palestinians aren't "real", and Gaza no longer exists in a year or so, where will they send them?  

war's over! woohoo! 🍾🎉

[DixonHur 11328]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Thing is. You can just switch literally any name in place of Trump and the story is the same. Actually not true. Press me and I take the under in terms of dead bodies stacked high under Trump moving forward compared to the reality under Biden. 

[BrickHorn 18237]

8 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

I'm still waiting for anyone to tell me what else Harris was supposed to do for Gaza.  She called for a ceasefire and said she did not support what is happening there right now. She can't do shit as VP.

But she WAS the party’s candidate for President. And the party declined a request by Palestinian advocates to speak at the DNC, but allowed pro-Israel speakers (which, by the way, leaders of the Uncommitted movement supported).

From my conversations with Muslim friends, merely allowing a Palestinian voice to speak briefly at the convention would have gone a looooong way. It was about showing a path forward and hope. The party fucked that up as badly as it possibly could have, which is a high bar for our lovable blue losers. 

Edited November 12 by BrickHorn

[Longhorn_Fan68 33872]

38 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

This thread is more disheartening than last Tuesday’s results. I’ve been a cynical misanthrope for a long time. But it’s becoming increasingly clear that, even still, I had somehow managed to overestimate the good in mankind.

Thanks for the wake-up call, you fucking maniacs. 

borrowing a sentiment from someone else here, there are only so many times you can tell someone the stove is hot before you have to let them touch the stove. that's where we are at. we've been trying for a nearly a decade to warn anyone and everyone about what this man plans to do. they did the opposite. there's little we can do anymore other than sit back and watch the carnage and hope we don't get caught up in the bullshit. spoiler: we will

Edited November 12 by Longhorn_Fan68

[Superhero 8830]

The people who voted because inflation was too high are in for a rude fucking awakening.

 

20% tariffs on all imports will make things more expensive for American consumers. Things will cost 20% more. Yay!

Lower business tax and fewer regulations means companies will look to borrow borrow borrow for capital investment. More demand for borrowing means... yep, higher interest rates. Gen Zers waiting on lower interest rates so they can buy a house are fucked.

Lower business taxes also means bigger budget shortfalls and the Federal government would need to issue more bills and bonds to pay for shit, at higher interest rates, so the budget to service debt payments will go up, meaning fuck you social security and medicare.

Independent financial groups said Harris's economic proposals would have added $3.5 trillion to the national debt. They say Trump's proposal would added $7 trillion. Yep, the Republicans are better at the economy. Bullshit.

 

I voted on character and also economic issues, especially national debt. Wife and I never planned on social security and medicare in our retirement planning.

 

 

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[Chewbacca 7780]

2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

But she WAS the party’s candidate for President. And the party declined a request by Palestinian advocates to speak at the DNC, but allowed pro-Israel speakers (which, by the way, leaders of the Uncommitted movement supported).

From my conversations with Muslim friends, merely allowing a Palestinian voice to speak briefly at the convention would have gone a looooong way. It was about showing a path forward and hope. The party fucked that up as badly as it possibly could have, which is a high bar for our lovable blue losers. 

And in response to their being no Palestinian speaker at the DNC, they chose the leopards.  Their whole stance on this is just as dumb as it gets.

It felt to me that they wanted a foreign policy issue to be front and center of Harris' campaign.  And that's never going to happen in the US unless we are actively engaged in a war abroad.

[Chewbacca 7780]

Just now, Superhero said:

The people who voted because inflation was too high are in for a rude fucking awakening.

 

20% tariffs on all imports will make things more expensive for American consumers. Things will cost 20% more. Yay!

Lower business tax and fewer regulations means companies will look to borrow borrow borrow for capital investment. More demand for borrowing means... yep, higher interest rates. Gen Zers waiting on lower interest rates so they can buy a house are fucked.

Lower business taxes also means the Federal government needs to issue more bills and bonds to pay for shit, at higher interest rates, so the budget to service debt payments will go up, meaning fuck you social security and medicare.

Independent financial groups said Harris's economic proposals would have added $3.5 trillion to the national debt. They say Trump's proposal would added $7 trillion. Yep, the Republicans are better at the economy. Bullshit.

 

I voted on character and also economic issues, especially national debt. Wife and I never planned on social security and medicare in our retirement planning.

 

 

Many (maybe most?) of them think the country that the tariff is imposed upon pays the tariff.  They have no idea that consumers ultimately pay tariffs.  Dumb, dumb, dumb.

[Biff Tannen 45691]

7 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

And the party declined a request by Palestinian advocates to speak at the DNC, but allowed pro-Israel speakers (which, by the way, leaders of the Uncommitted movement supported).

I agree. This part was fucked. They should not have done it. However, that doesn’t mean that they should have voted for Trump because of it.  

[Todd Gack 432]

5 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

But she WAS the party’s candidate for President. And the party declined a request by Palestinian advocates to speak at the DNC, but allowed pro-Israel speakers (which, by the way, leaders of the Uncommitted movement supported).

From my conversations with Muslim friends, merely allowing a Palestinian voice to speak briefly at the convention would have gone a looooong way. It was about showing a path forward and hope. The party fucked that up as badly as it possibly could have, which is a high bar for the lovable blue losers. 

Democrats gonna democrat.

They let fear guide their decisions on this, per usual.  Can't give a Palestine sympathizer any speaking time for fear that they'll say fuck the prompter and go off-script.  That might hurt the goals of raising $1B to run ads pandering to Liz Cheney's friends.

[Superhero 8830]

1 minute ago, Chewbacca said:

Many (maybe most?) of them think the country that the tariff is imposed upon pays the tariff.  They have no idea that consumers ultimately pay tariffs.  Dumb, dumb, dumb.

In short. Most people, not just American are ignorant when it comes to the economy.

I'm subscriber to 3-4 economic podcasts. I listen to them in the car and sometimes at home. Other than upper upper management in my company, noone seems to give a shit about where / now things are going.

[Gap03 3308]

23 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

But the Dems could have taken fairly small, harmless steps to at least show some good faith to Muslims and earn their votes. And it would have been the right fucking thing to do, you know, to at least show a modicum of sympathy and concern for innocent victims of industrialized slaughter: The party chose not to.

From where I sit as a heartbroken Democrat, the party fucked around and we all found out. We have no one to blame but ourselves. And I won’t take any solace whatsoever that desperate people who saw no good option end up suffering.

The issue was a loser for the Dems regardless. We can Monday morning QB this to death, but they were going to lose some Muslim votes or some moderate votes once the Israelis pressed their atrocities.  The Dems made a reasonable bet, which was that Muslims would realize that Trump was going to be far worse for their cause than Harris.  For chrissakes, EVERYONE (including Muslim leaders) told them so, and most realized that Harris just couldn't be vocal about it.  At some point, voters need to realize the political games going on under the surface, but here they didn't. FAFO.  

[Thatguy 8712]

28 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

I wonder who pays for it...

Imagine your own tax dollars being used to deport you. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33872]

2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Imagine your own tax dollars being used to deport you. 

[MAGA]At least that money didn't go to no illegal![/MAGA]

[Thatguy 8712]

13 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

borrowing a sentiment from someone else here, there is only so many times you can someone the stove is hot before you have to let them touch the stove. that's where we are at. we've been trying for a nearly a decade to warn anyone and everyone about what this man plans to do. they did the opposite. there's little we can do anymore other than sit back and watch the carnage and hope we don't get caught up in the bullshit. spoiler: we will

Also @BrickHorn. Some of us are also tired of being the ones taking it on the chin. The only real change will happen when EVERYONE is fucking around and finding out. I feel perfectly OK rooting for carnage if im in the adjacent seat.

[UpperWestside 6169]

17 hours ago, SKJ said:

It's really funny because Trump really fucked the farmers last time around and get they still,  somehow,  voted for him.  

Well,  maybe just the ones that had faces still...

Going to have the small percentage of farms  that are run by families get taken in by large corporate farming operations. Who could have seen it coming that their orange god king would be cool with this? I do not feel one bit bad for any farmer that voted for him getting their comeuppance in the form of being broke and destitute.

[BrickHorn 18237]

8 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I agree. This part was fucked. They should not have done it. However, that doesn’t mean that they should have voted for Trump because of it.  

I agree with that. In the case of my friends, they just didn’t vote or voted third party. They were well aware of the danger. They just couldn’t bring themselves to affirmatively support a candidate who, in their estimation, had blood on her hands.

It was a fucked up trolley problem, for sure. 

[CTC2 2797]

13 minutes ago, Superhero said:

In short. Most people, not just American are ignorant when it comes to the economy.

I'm subscriber to 3-4 economic podcasts. I listen to them in the car and sometimes at home. Other than upper upper management in my company, noone seems to give a shit about where / now things are going.

Interestingly, I got a “What’s in store from Trump 2.0” from JPM today and it was less than  optimistic. Said that as big of a disaster as tariffs will be, mass deportations will damage the economy more.  Interesting that Berkshire has moved to a majority cash position. 
 

[SimonBolivar 10958]

3 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

Interestingly, I got a “What’s in store from Trump 2.0” from JPM today and it was less than  optimistic. Said that as big of a disaster as tariffs will be, mass deportations will damage the economy more.  Interesting that Berkshire has moved to a majority cash position. 
 

The new talking point is that the tariffs aren't real and just a fear tactic and that the mass deportations will open up housing options. I guess a lot of undocumented immigrants were spending $700k on housing.



 

[956 Worldwide 34715]

32 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

borrowing a sentiment from someone else here, there are only so many times you can tell someone the stove is hot before you have to let them touch the stove. that's where we are at. we've been trying for a nearly a decade to warn anyone and everyone about what this man plans to do. they did the opposite. there's little we can do anymore other than sit back and watch the carnage and hope we don't get caught up in the bullshit. spoiler: we will

 

[Chewbacca 7780]

3 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

The new talking point is that the tariffs aren't real and just a fear tactic and that the mass deportations will open up housing options. I guess a lot of undocumented immigrants were spending $700k on housing.



 

That $700k house will cost $900k very soon.

[Born to Run 6569]

31 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Many (maybe most?) of them think the country that the tariff is imposed upon pays the tariff.  They have no idea that consumers ultimately pay tariffs.  Dumb, dumb, dumb.

I mean the guy they elected thinks that....

[Brisketexan 105152]

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

mass deportations will open up housing options.

I mean....the pure fucking genius here.

Let's take a country that is operating at functionally zero unemployment.....and just eliminate millions and millions of workers.  There's no way to cut that so it doesn't end up inflationary as hell.  Either wages have to go WAY up to get people to process chickens in Arkansas (leading to inflation of prices) or plants are just gonna have to shut down (leading to reduced supply....leading to inflation).  And that's just looking at food processing.  Construction is similar, with the added bonus of throttling the supply of new housing coming to market (reduced supply.....yep, inflation of prices).

Austin's housing supply isn't tight because some sheetrockers from Guatemala live here.  Shit, most of the ones working in Austin DON'T live here -- they live in the hinterlands and distant burbs, in shitty housing.  

Every part of this is fucking dumb.

Just now, Chewbacca said:

That $700k house will cost $900k very soon.

....and it's going to run 9 months behind schedule to get into it because of a construction worker shortage.

[956 Worldwide 34715]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

I mean....the pure fucking genius here.

Let's take a country that is operating at functionally zero unemployment.....and just eliminate millions and millions of workers.  There's no way to cut that so it doesn't end up inflationary as hell.  Either wages have to go WAY up to get people to process chickens in Arkansas (leading to inflation of prices) or plants are just gonna have to shut down (leading to reduced supply....leading to inflation).  And that's just looking at food processing.  Construction is similar, with the added bonus of throttling the supply of new housing coming to market (reduced supply.....yep, inflation of prices).

Austin's housing supply isn't tight because some sheetrockers from Guatemala live here.  Shit, most of the ones working in Austin DON'T live here -- they live in the hinterlands and distant burbs, in shitty housing.  

Every part of this is fucking dumb.

Housing is tight because all all over the country bougie NIMBY types join forces with decaying and selfish boomers to ensure nothing ever gets built so that their property values will go up.  Then the olds whine that their kids won’t have grandkids while squatting in what should be a young family’s starter home via FaceTime from their vacation. 

[Chewbacca 7780]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

....and it's going to run 9 months behind schedule to get into it because of a construction worker shortage.

Yeah, the combo of tariffs on imports and a labor shortage are going to hit construction particularly hard.

[Goredho 17408]

52 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

This thread is more disheartening than last Tuesday’s results. I’ve been a cynical misanthrope for a long time. But it’s becoming increasingly clear that, even still, I had somehow managed to overestimate the good in mankind.

Thanks for the wake-up call, you fucking maniacs. 

 

25 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

borrowing a sentiment from someone else here, there are only so many times you can tell someone the stove is hot before you have to let them touch the stove. that's where we are at. we've been trying for a nearly a decade to warn anyone and everyone about what this man plans to do. they did the opposite. there's little we can do anymore other than sit back and watch the carnage and hope we don't get caught up in the bullshit. spoiler: we will

I mean, voters made it clear that they weren't buying any of the warnings about the dangers of a vote for Trump.  Its all hypothetical fear mongering to win an election... until it isn't.  The shit being warned about is going to have to be made manifest before it moves the needle with a critical mass of people.

That doesn't mean those fears are guaranteed to happen or that anyone should take joy from it if they do, but it is the reality of where we are at.  Its all up to Trump and his party now.  Are you who you say you are, or who the democrats said you are?  I don't need anyone's expectant opinion on that.  We are all going to know pretty quickly.

[Brisketexan 105152]

4 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Housing is tight because all all over the country bougie NIMBY types join forces with decaying and selfish boomers to ensure nothing ever gets built so that their property values will go up.  Then the olds whine that their kids won’t have grandkids while squatting in what should be a young family’s starter home via FaceTime from their vacation. 

Yep.  And that combo of assholes gives us a nice opportunity to point out how both extremes (left and right) have worked together to fuck housing supply.

But in Trumpland....what is the answer to why our housing supply is fucked?   OBVIOUSLY, the problem is housepainters and roofers named Jorge taking up all of our housing supply.

[Captainant 27679]

2 hours ago, workswithseed said:

And Icelanders.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-01/iceland-prenatal-testing-down-syndrome-ethics/103781058

this is pretty offensive to compare a woman aborting a fetus to jewish children getting marched into a gas chamber.

[UpperWestside 6169]

16 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

The new talking point is that the tariffs aren't real and just a fear tactic and that the mass deportations will open up housing options. I guess a lot of undocumented immigrants were spending $700k on housing.



 

Going to be deporting a lot of doctors, lawyers, bankers and tech magnates among the hordes of illegals it sounds like.

What a time to be alive to witness all this stupidity. Can’t wait to see some dumbfounded looks from maga cult members when their favorite restaurants close down because there is no one to cook their food or clean their dishes.

[G650 14263]

12 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Housing is tight because all all over the country bougie NIMBY types join forces with decaying and selfish boomers to ensure nothing ever gets built so that their property values will go up.  Then the olds whine that their kids won’t have grandkids while squatting in what should be a young family’s starter home via FaceTime from their vacation. 

 

Literally this. Everything else is just boogie man bullshit.

[workswithseed 2112]

8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

this is pretty offensive to compare a woman aborting a fetus to jewish children getting marched into a gas chamber.

I just quoted the air to respond to, not to an actual post about how special needs kids were killed by nazis, and will happen now that schools will have no DoE from the Reddit post. 

[Anastasis 23474]

1 hour ago, DixonHur said:

I know. 

[Gatorubet 30246]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Thing is. You can just switch literally any name in place of Trump and the story is the same. Actually not true. Press me and I take the under in terms of dead bodies stacked high under Trump moving forward compared to the reality under Biden. 

I bet if we pressure you won’t tell us why you think that.  But I would love to hear why Trump withdrawing from NATO and letting Ukraine fall to Russia would ultimately wind up with less bodies in the world.   And I suspect you will tell me we’re only talking about Palestine. In which case I need to ask you if dead Gaza bodies are worth more than dead Ukrainian bodies, or if we agree that each dead body is one dead body wherever they may drop

[Bookman 4639]

1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

We have no one to blame but ourselves. 

No, I'm pretty sure we can blame Trump and Stein voters. 

[Gatorubet 30246]

1 hour ago, Longhorn94 said:

I wonder who pays for it...

Mexico. Duh!

[Nivek 16936]

The problem is that stupid sells.   Stupid doesn't stop to think.  Stupid doesn't think beyond the short term.   Stupid doesn't want any answer longer than 3 seconds.   Stupid doesn't do research.  Stupid doesn't bother with facts.   Stupid is mean.  Stupid is cruel.  Stupid will ask to be in front of the firing squad.   Stupid has found their social voice and their leader.  Stupid is enthralled.  

Stupid don't vote for no qualified woman over a business failure, convict, and merch peddling moron.   

[workswithseed 2112]

8 minutes ago, Bookman said:

No, I'm pretty sure we can blame Trump and Stein voters. 

 

[CooterBrown 18014]

42 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep.  And that combo of assholes gives us a nice opportunity to point out how both extremes (left and right) have worked together to fuck housing supply.

But in Trumpland....what is the answer to why our housing supply is fucked?   OBVIOUSLY, the problem is housepainters and roofers named Jorge taking up all of our housing supply.

To be fair, housing supply is gonna really open up when hundreds of thousands of foreclosures hit the market after Dotard and Elon intentionally crash the economy.

[ulukinatme 1764]

19 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

 

[Anastasis 23474]

41 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I bet if we pressure you won’t tell us why you think that.  But I would love to hear why Trump withdrawing from NATO and letting Ukraine fall to Russia would ultimately wind up with less bodies in the world.   And I suspect you will tell me we’re only talking about Palestine. In which case I need to ask you if dead Gaza bodies are worth more than dead Ukrainian bodies, or if we agree that each dead body is one dead body wherever they may drop

I bet you don't have any clue what you are talking about. And it is totally obvious in your post. Pick your theatre, I take the under. 

[David Dennison 18881]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

What a fucking clown show. We have been arming and funding ethnic cleansing. Some of your liberals need to straight up swallow bullets. 

Doesn't sound like that's going to change.

[DDD Dad 14339]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

The real world is enjoyable. This forum is untethered to it. Come outside brick and enjoy the weather. Unless you are in Palestine. In which case you are fuckd  

Or Ukraine, or any of a number of other places we can't be bothered to care about.

[G650 14263]

4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

What a fucking clown show. We have been arming and funding ethnic cleansing. Some of your liberals need to straight up swallow bullets. 

Cmon man

[Anastasis 23474]

Just now, DDD Dad said:

Or Ukraine, or any of a number of other places we can't be bothered to care about.

We sent billions of dollars in arms to Ukraine to run out a political quagmire of our own creation. And simultaneously unending shit to Israel to drop on women and children. I wish that we couldn't be bothered about such things.