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15 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Not exactly. But I do expect decent people to feel sympathy for millions of innocents trying to survive an onslaught in Gaza (and, likely soon, the West Bank). 

I know this thread has moved quickly, but this discussion started when a few of our resident assholes cheered on the coming slaughter in Gaza as if it were some sort of karmic justice for the poor choices of Muslims in Michigan. Then said assholes doubled down on it. 

We can debate whether American Muslims who declined to vote for Kamala deserve what’s coming. I personally believe their decision presented a unique moral conundrum. But are you really going to defend Brisket and 956 as they celebrate the massacre of innocent non-Americans who had literally no choice to make?

I get the impression that neither Brisket nor 956 celebrate the massacre of innocent non-Americans.  Instead It's schadenfreude for those who were complicit in allowing the greater of two evils to come into power by voicing their protest through voting against the interests of those innocent non-Americans.  More like, "STFU you were responsible for this" rather than "yay, more innocent dead people." 

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7 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Yes.

But to be fair, I'm an equal opportunity shithead and hope Israel gets wiped out too.  I'm tired of hearing about the bullshit over there and that somehow it's our problem to fix.  Fuck 'em.  Let both of them fight it out and sort out their own problems for a change.

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I have a strong affinity for this.  While recognizing that Israel is the only democracy in the ME, for which I have some sympathy, Bibi is a total asshole.

One of the Founding Fathers' great ideas was "let's not bring all that European infighting over HERE. Let's get us a fresh start."   I thought that was somewhat true for the intractable Arab-Israeli conflicts of the last 50 years.  We can argue about who bought it here first, but it seems to be a cancer to the body politic from where I'm standing.  

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Not exactly. But I do expect decent people to feel sympathy for millions of innocents trying to survive an onslaught in Gaza (and, likely soon, the West Bank). 
I know this thread has moved quickly, but this discussion started when a few of our resident assholes cheered on the coming slaughter in Gaza as if it were some sort of karmic justice for the poor choices of Muslims in Michigan. Then said assholes doubled down on it. 
We can debate whether American Muslims who declined to vote for Kamala deserve what’s coming. I personally believe their decision presented a unique moral conundrum. But are you really going to defend Brisket and 956 as they celebrate the massacre of innocent non-Americans who had literally no choice to make?

It sucks when innocent people die. I have the same sympathy for them as I do for the people starving in African countries, experiencing genocide in African countries and general atrocities around the world.

That said - I have zero sympathy for the people that actively campaigned against the best option on the table for trying to fix a 100 year problem.
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Those of y’all sane-washing Brisket need to go back and read his posts on Page 13. A small sample:

On 11/11/2024 at 1:50 PM, Brisketexan said:

Nope.  But a shitload of Arab-Americans and other parties supposedly deeply sympathetic to Gaza 1) do vote, and 2) either voted for Trump, or registered a protest vote for Stein or somesuch.  In spite of all common sense telling them that they were voting for the leopard that would fully and finally consume the face of Gaza (or more accurately, would give Israel full license and blessing to do so).

This outcome is EXACTLY what those people voted for.  Sorry.  I'm all out of sympathy.  For everyone.

 

On 11/11/2024 at 2:05 PM, softlynow said:

@BrickHorn Are you ok? I’m not sure where you’re coming from on this. I’m personally sickened by just about everything right now. Single-issue voters in Dearborn, etc. didn’t do this by themselves, but it fits the thread. I fear there will be nothing stopping the accelerating genocide in the ME. I’m not sure whether you disagree or think I’m cheering it on. 

 

On 11/11/2024 at 2:08 PM, Brisketexan said:

Oh, I'm cheering it on.  See, when arsonists get burned, that's the essence of this thread.

I'm sick and fucking tired of telling various factions of arsonists "DON'T LIGHT THAT FIRE!" only to watch them defiantly toss gasoline everywhere and light a match.....and promptly get fucking consumed by the fire they helped stoke/start.  Fuck 'em.  I am DONE having sympathy for groups that bring the worst on themselves.  

0% sympathy.

100% schadenfreude.

That is the correct ratio now.

Dude clearly stated he was “cheering [genocide in the middle east] on.” It wasn’t ambiguous or misunderstood. 

If you want to defend him, fine. But at least understand what you’re defending.

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51 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Yeah, I grew up 5 minutes away from Mexico, and it always struck me how different life was there.  I was born into a privileged family.  We had far more than most and never were concerned with money.  Then I would go to Mexico and see all the shanty towns on the hills, and kids trying to sell you chicles to help their family, the prostitutes in boys town trying to survive selling what they had to sell.  And I was taken aback by how much lower their standard of living was compared to mine, and that the only real difference between them and I was that they were born 5 minutes south beyond an imaginary line drawn on a drying riverbed.

And then I would pass all that by and get to my real destination.  The house of the wealthy, politically connected family that was the ruling class in Mexico.  I was friend with their son who was sent to private school in the U.S. to be educated.  I was taken aback again by how much higher their standard of living was compared to mine.  The thousands of acres, the mission-style mansion, the landing strip and private plane in the backyard.  It was disconcertingly difficult to try and not be taken aback by the extravagance.

I think we are on a similar road in the United States, just behind the curve.

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2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Those of y’all sane-washing Brisket need to go back and read his posts on Page 13. A small sample:

 

 

Dude clearly stated he was “cheering [genocide in the middle east] on.” It wasn’t ambiguous or misunderstood. 

If you want to defend him, fine. But at least understand what you’re defending.

I don't care.  At all.  I have no family or friends over there so why should I?  We are in the era of "If it doesn't directly affect me, I give zero shits."  I'm just getting with the times.

 

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1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I don't care.  At all.  I have no family or friends over there so why should I?  We are in the era of "If it doesn't directly affect me, I give zero shits."  I'm just getting with the times.

 

You sound like a huge asshole.

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9 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Those of y’all sane-washing Brisket need to go back and read his posts on Page 13. A small sample:

 

 

Dude clearly stated he was “cheering [genocide in the middle east] on.” It wasn’t ambiguous or misunderstood. 

If you want to defend him, fine. But at least understand what you’re defending.

He's cheering on the arsonists getting burned.  Not the innocents getting killed.  He has "zero percent sympathy" for anyone (including the innocents, at least as I read his comments).  "I'm 100 percent schadenfreude." 

He doesn't need me to defend him and I'm not defending him.  While I completely disagree, I can understand the frustration and lack of sympathy for the innocents.  I do share his disdain and disgust with those Americans who voted against the interests of those innocents, regardless of their reasons.

Just clarifying what I took from his comments (which is slightly more nuanced than your take). 

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8 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

He's cheering on the arsonists getting burned.  Not the innocents getting killed.  He has "zero percent sympathy" for anyone (including the innocents, at least as I read his comments).  "I'm 100 percent schadenfreude."

Notably, you don’t address his exchange with softlynow, in which Brisket states unambiguously that he is cheering on genocide in the Middle East. Why did you leave that part out? And how do you reconcile it with your view that he didn’t post what he explicitly posted? 

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15 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Those of y’all sane-washing Brisket need to go back and read his posts on Page 13. A small sample:

 

 

Dude clearly stated he was “cheering [genocide in the middle east] on.” It wasn’t ambiguous or misunderstood. 

If you want to defend him, fine. But at least understand what you’re defending.

You negged my post pointing out the soon to be accelerating genocide. You quoted my response to your reaction. I guess my question to you remains.

For my part, I’m coping OK. Could be better, I suppose. Apparently better than brisket, though.

24/7 rage will not brighten the coming darkness. Best to keep one’s sanity to better ride out the storm. It is hard, though, to be constantly reminded that my government will intentionally inflict so much pain on so many in coming years. 

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32 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Notably, you don’t address his exchange with softlynow, in which Brisket states unambiguously that he is cheering on genocide in the Middle East. Why did you leave that part out? And how do you reconcile it with your view that he didn’t post what he explicitly posted? 

He says he is cheering "it" on, and I found that to be vague in the context of his prior post.  Again, I said that my take on his statements was more nuanced than yours.

If he is celebrating genocide for what it means to those being "genocided," that's obviously something I cannot defend.  I didn't read his comments to be doing that.  As I've said, I am not defending him.  He's a full grown Gundy capable of defending himself. 

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14 minutes ago, softlynow said:

I guess my question to you remains.

Like everyone else on this thread, I’m angry and depressed. I’m mourning the loss of the America we grew up in and believed in. 

Unlike some or possibly many of y’all, I’m also forced to do risk-reward calculations about staying in the country. Depending on how far these fuckers go, people very close to me could find themselves deported or in camps. There are no illegal immigrants in my orbit, but that assumes the laws won’t be rewritten to expand the nets. In the past week, worst case scenarios that never occurred to us suddenly seem possible. It’s terrifying and would completely change my family’s lives and future aspirations. We’re preparing for the worst at this point. 

And yet, somehow I’ve managed to absorb this shock without hoping for innocent women and children to get murdered en masse. 

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Just now, DDD Dad said:

He says he is cheering "it" on, and I found that to be vague in the context of his prior post.  Again, I said that my take on his statements was more nuanced than yours.

Your take is not “more nuanced.” It’s just less informed. You’re deliberately ignoring the words he directly responded to, which make the meaning of “it” explicitly clear. 

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You need to pull back on how closely you follow politics.  There's no point in making yourself miserable over something we clearly have no control over.  The next 4 years are gonna suck, but they will suck less if you only have a vague idea of what's happening. 

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1 minute ago, kevwun said:

You need to pull back on how closely you follow politics.  There's no point in making yourself miserable over something we clearly have no control over.  The next 4 years are gonna suck, but they will suck less if you only have a vague idea of what's happening. 

I need to figure out a balance between tuning the fuck out for my sanity, and actually doing something to help. Maybe a monthly donation or something, and going along with my life paying no attention while everything burns to the fucking ground. 

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3 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Like everyone else on this thread, I’m angry and depressed. I’m mourning the loss of the America we grew up in and believed in. 

Unlike some or possibly many of y’all, I’m also forced to do risk-reward calculations about staying in the country. Depending on how far these fuckers go, people very close to me could find themselves deported or in camps. There are no illegal immigrants in my orbit, but that assumes the laws won’t be rewritten to expand the nets. In the past week, worst case scenarios that never occurred to us suddenly seem possible. It’s terrifying and would completely change my family’s lives and future aspirations. We’re preparing for the worst at this point. 

And yet, somehow I’ve managed to absorb this shock without hoping for innocent women and children to get murdered en masse. 

I really don't care.  Do you?

 

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2 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

This SOB voting against a fellow Texan.  Yet another reason so many find his face so punchable.  

Ah! I see the flaw here. You thought Ted Cruz was Texan. C'mere and let me tell you the tale of a Cuban/Canadian boy named Rafael.

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2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

If only we could have seen this coming. 

 

Most of the population don't understand the economy or even give a shit. The see what's directly in front of their faces without considering their futures. Lower taxes? Yay! Tariffs on other countries! Fuck yeah! Pay for someone else's IVF treatment? Uhhh... Why not?

If Trump follows through with all the campaign promises, the US national debt is projected to go up $7 billion in the next 10 years. This is a lot of fucking money. Fitch's and Moody's already downgraded US debt in the past year. Borrowing more money will downgraded it even more, meaning higher interest rates needed to attract investors.

Anyone thinking interest and inflation rates are going down is fucking uninformed. 

 

It'll be great for people who have money in the market, and don't have, or have debt at lower interest rates. It'll be a big fuck you to anyone who is trying to buy a car or house, expand their business in the near future. A lot of the people who voted Trump don't have money in the market because they don't know how to think ahead.

 

I'm teaching my 2 kids about tariffs, taxes and interest rates at home. We need to teach finance and economics in school!

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25 minutes ago, Superhero said:

We need to teach finance and economics in school!

We do to some degree.  My middle school child had interest and compound interest taught in a math class with a finance context included.  

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2 minutes ago, Nivek said:

We do to some degree.  My middle school child had interest and compound interest taught in a math class with a finance context included.  

Good thing they've already had that class.  After all the shit the Legislature is going to do to public schools in the fall, the only math kids are going to learn is how to calculate how many cows and bushels of corn need to be in the dowry to buy Chadlynne as a teenage bride. Bless Jebus.

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2 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Good thing they've already had that class.  After all the shit the Legislature is going to do to public schools in the fall, the only math kids are going to learn is how to calculate how many cows and bushels of corn need to be in the dowry to buy Chadlynne as a teenage bride. Bless Jebus.

we are all aggy now

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Just now, bolverk said:

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I'm not depressed at all.  I do have a simple response to pretty much everyone posting examples of people suffering because of the way they voted.  That response is, "Fuck em all".   I wish for the worst for these people.  In this timeline I am sure somehow, someway nothing bad will happen to those people, and the good people will be the only ones to suffer which sucks.  I hate to have this attitude, but I find it hard to have nothing but negative feelings for people that fucked up the once great country that I loved. 

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:

I need to figure out a balance between tuning the fuck out for my sanity, and actually doing something to help. Maybe a monthly donation or something, and going along with my life paying no attention while everything burns to the fucking ground. 

Donations don't mean shit.  The Harris campaign spent a billion dollars and got smoked.

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2 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

I'm not depressed at all.  I do have a simple response to pretty much everyone posting examples of people suffering because of the way they voted.  That response is, "Fuck em all".   I wish for the worst for these people.  In this timeline I am sure somehow, someway nothing bad will happen to those people, and the good people will be the only ones to suffer which sucks.  I hate to have this attitude, but I find it hard to have nothing but negative feelings for people that fucked up the once great country that I loved. 

well the good news is karma is apparently dead, and according to the subject matter experts, being a hateful asshole guarantees entrance to heaven...

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