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Whenever life hits you with something so hard that it throws off your perspective, the values you are left with are your values to own.

well you are who you are when you're angry
when you're scared or you're sad or you're bored

If you can only feel compassion when it's easy, it says more about you than it does those you would otherwise feel compassion towards.

I'm talking like a fucking fortune cookie.

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3 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

I have a strong affinity for this.  While recognizing that Israel is the only democracy in the ME, for which I have some sympathy, Bibi is a total asshole.

One of the Founding Fathers' great ideas was "let's not bring all that European infighting over HERE. Let's get us a fresh start."   I thought that was somewhat true for the intractable Arab-Israeli conflicts of the last 50 years.  We can argue about who bought it here first, but it seems to be a cancer to the body politic from where I'm standing.  

Given what’s happened in the US, why should anyone care about Israel being a democracy. MAGA only loves because Revalations etc

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28 minutes ago, Nivek said:

We do to some degree.  My middle school child had interest and compound interest taught in a math class with a finance context included.  

That’s great. Teachers at school teaching basic finance. Dad at home teaching them to fight chimpanzees with their bare hands.

Sounds like a well rounded education. 

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meh. at a certain point it becomes equally condescending and pointless to look with pity and say 'forgive them, they know not what they do!'

i mean god bless anyone taking specific action, but it's not difficult at all to understand natural instincts.

humans gonna human.

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10 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Hopefully we get through a few years of enjoying those sandwiches before the listeria eventually kills us. 

 

 

Well, don't worry, Brain Worms Kennedy is on the job, I am sure he won't be easily duped, and I am sure the food and drug supply will be adapted to new industry standards.   

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Just now, Ghost of LL said:

You're not alone brother.

This is where a lot of people are, myself included.  All you need to do is look at CNN's ratings.  Look at the Washington Post's subscription numbers.  People are tuning out.  And they need to do so for their basic mental health.

And this is where we'll get scolded because that's exactly how the autocrat wins--by getting people to tune out rather than stand up for their principles and resist.

But at the same time, I just don't care.  I don't care about this country, and I care even less about it's people.  They can all go to the devil for all I care.  

yeah that old adage about evil winning and good men doing nothing isn't very complete.  The good men were run out and marginalized.   The Fairness Doctrine was more critical than anyone in modern times imagined.  

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11 minutes ago, Nivek said:

yeah that old adage about evil winning and good men doing nothing isn't very complete.  The good men were run out and marginalized.   The Fairness Doctrine was more critical than anyone in modern times imagined.  

Think the adage from the Mel Brooks classic Spaceballs is much more applicable these days:

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1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

You profess to be all pissed off at @Brisketexan because he said he'd welcome the Palestinians getting genocided on an internet message board.

Right. Because before last Tuesday, that is exactly how every reasonable person would react to some unhinged jackass posting pro-genocide rants on the internet. Some of y'all just decided to stop acting human after the election.

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Just now, BrickHorn said:

Right. Because before last Tuesday, that is exactly how every reasonable person would react to some unhinged jackass posting pro-genocide rants on the internet. Some of y'all just decided to stop acting human after the election.

Think you mean most of the country. 

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20 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

You're not alone brother.

This is where a lot of people are, myself included.  All you need to do is look at CNN's ratings.  Look at the Washington Post's subscription numbers.  People are tuning out.  And they need to do so for their basic mental health.

And this is where we'll get scolded because that's exactly how the autocrat wins--by getting people to tune out rather than stand up for their principles and resist.

But at the same time, I just don't care.  I don't care about this country, and I care even less about it's people.  They can all go to the devil for all I care.  

That's like scolding someone for putting ice on their hand after they got burned. The damage is done. The fight is over. At least until there's another kind of fighting, if that ever happens. It's stupid to look at this cabinet and the project 2025 shit coming to the forefront now in plain sight and think otherwise. People scolding us now, lolz. 

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3 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Right. Because before last Tuesday, that is exactly how every reasonable person would react to some unhinged jackass posting pro-genocide rants on the internet. Some of y'all just decided to stop acting human after the election.

everyone in here is acting perfectly human. 

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Yep. It's the bleeding black-hearted liberal way. No sympathy for anyone who sided with Trump or stood on the sidelines during the election. The last time he got into office, I really let it get to me. Not this time. This will either be a teachable moment for the whole country or it won't. Either way, it's all out of my hands anyway.


Same. Spent the last 9 year invested in politics on a daily basis. Did it make my life better in any way? Hell no. Deleted all the political podcasts/substacks/emails that I invested time in.
 

Spending the next 4 year with my head down focused on growing my business and being a better husband, dad and friend. 

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25 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

You're not alone brother.

This is where a lot of people are, myself included.  All you need to do is look at CNN's ratings.  Look at the Washington Post's subscription numbers.  People are tuning out.  And they need to do so for their basic mental health.

And this is where we'll get scolded because that's exactly how the autocrat wins--by getting people to tune out rather than stand up for their principles and resist.

But at the same time, I just don't care.  I don't care about this country, and I care even less about it's people.  They can all go to the devil for all I care.  

I don't think CNN's ratings or NYT's or WaPo's subscriptions declining will necessarily be indicative of people tuning out. I think people realize those institutions are fascist collaborators and want to get their information elsewhere. I do think a lot of people don't want to repeat 2017-2020 and want to figure a different way to approach things this time and that may look different from obsessively following mainstream media. 

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There was something I saw this morning that said the ratings of CNN and MSNBC are down nearly 50% since October. But Fox News ratings?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Up 21%

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Pancho said:

There was something I saw this morning that said the ratings of CNN and MSNBC are down nearly 50% since October. But Fox News ratings?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Up 21%

 

 

 

 

 

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Everyone likes a winner.

 

But ditching legacy media with no real replacement for a counter message also has its downside.

Fox isn’t going away. So the state media channel remains. This reaches the olds.

And the right wing social media podosphere also continues.


The left does need to build some sort of counter culture to highlight the hypocrisy of legacy media first and then go after the right second. 

You can’t replace something with nothing.

And yet I don’t have what that something is so I’m no real help.

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3 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

Your take is not “more nuanced.” It’s just less informed. You’re deliberately ignoring the words he directly responded to, which make the meaning of “it” explicitly clear. 

I don't know why you keep arguing with me about this.  I had a take on his comment.  You have your own take on it.  I've already told you several times I'm not defending him regardless of what he meant.

Continuing to argue with me over this just makes you look like an asshole.

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2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

I don't think CNN's ratings or NYT's or WaPo's subscriptions declining will necessarily be indicative of people tuning out. I think people realize those institutions are fascist collaborators and want to get their information elsewhere. I do think a lot of people don't want to repeat 2017-2020 and want to figure a different way to approach things this time and that may look different from obsessively following mainstream media. 

 

2 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

Everyone likes a winner.

 

But ditching legacy media with no real replacement for a counter message also has its downside.

Fox isn’t going away. So the state media channel remains. This reaches the olds.

And the right wing social media podosphere also continues.


The left does need to build some sort of counter culture to highlight the hypocrisy of legacy media first and then go after the right second. 

You can’t replace something with nothing.

And yet I don’t have what that something is so I’m no real help.

I beg to differ a little bit with wildcat and agree with DNA. I admittedly spent time in the news game and have a journalism degree. I wouldn't call WaPo or the NYT "fascist collaborators" really. Leadership really let us down but more than anything, they failed in doing their civic duty in letting somebody like Trump and his endless stream of bullshit go unchecked. For the first time in this nation's history, one candidate (and now cult party) weren't playing by any of the rules that were adhered to for the first 250 years of this nation's existence. They're used to people playing by the rules. MAGA doesn't do that. Add in something like FOX News which isn't a news organization and never was. It's a propaganda machine that was created to combat a perceived liberal media slant.

The answer isn't to create the liberal version of Fox News. That won't work, certainly not on those that could possibly see the shit sandwich we're all about to be served and perhaps stray slightly to other sources of news. They aren't all of a sudden tuning into hyper-partisan liberal media. I think the "old guard" institutions need to decide to get in the fight -- the real fight -- or die of obsolescence.

It's been a long day with body blow after body blow so what the fuck do I know really? I'm just stressed to the gills thinking about the next two years at a min before we can hopefully start cutting into the MAGA/GOP cabal in the legislatures. I just hope there's a country left to save at that point.

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6 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

I beg to differ a little bit with wildcat and agree with DNA. I admittedly spent time in the news game and have a journalism degree. I wouldn't call WaPo or the NYT "fascist collaborators" really. Leadership really let us down but more than anything, they failed in doing their civic duty in letting somebody like Trump and his endless stream of bullshit go unchecked. For the first time in this nation's history, one candidate (and now cult party) weren't playing by any of the rules that were adhered to for the first 250 years of this nation's existence. They're used to people playing by the rules. MAGA doesn't do that. Add in something like FOX News which isn't a news organization and never was. It's a propaganda machine that was created to combat a perceived liberal media slant.

The answer isn't to create the liberal version of Fox News. That won't work, certainly not on those that could possibly see the shit sandwich we're all about to be served and perhaps stray slightly to other sources of news. They aren't all of a sudden tuning into hyper-partisan liberal media. I think the "old guard" institutions need to decide to get in the fight -- the real fight -- or die of obsolescence.

It's been a long day with body blow after body blow so what the fuck do I know really? I'm just stressed to the gills thinking about the next two years at a min before we can hopefully start cutting into the MAGA/GOP cabal in the legislatures. I just hope there's a country left to save at that point.

I read this while looking at your avatar and I think you legit drained energy from me.  

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40 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I beg to differ a little bit with wildcat and agree with DNA. I admittedly spent time in the news game and have a journalism degree. I wouldn't call WaPo or the NYT "fascist collaborators" really.

NYT has a proud history of spiking the football way too early

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Some may argue that repeated pattern of behavior makes it not really matter if they're pro fascist or not, since they're making room for the fascists to make their moves by giving cover to polite society to ignore the problem. 

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11 hours ago, Goofyboy said:

Not sure if this should go here or not, as it’s just for Texas. But, I hope everyone is REAL happy in their marriage. This is being filed for 2025 session.

Another Vasut bill would make Texas one of four states that allow “covenant marriage,” a legal arrangement that has been favored by some conservative Christians, including U.S. House Speaker Mike Johnson. Under House Bill 931, both parties would have to agree to a divorce in order for a court to grant it. Before that, they’d also have to undergo at least five hours of counseling by a member of the clergy or a licensed mental health professional.

Would that be for all marriage/the default option, or would that just allow nutjobs to enter into a more stringent arrangement if they both consent?

I mean, I know it's a slippery slope either way but there is a distinction.

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11 hours ago, G650 said:

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All the pro-Trump subcontractors I’ve talked will be holding their butts in January.

NGL, our SoCal group is struggling a bit because a few projects, about $600M worth were put on hold, because… interest rates.

At this point, we might as well just archive those because they probably won’t be back before the next midterm election. 

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10 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Wife's had some bouts of homesickness after relocating out of TX earlier this year. On election night, in the window where it was pretty clear Harris was going to come up short in the Sun Belt but there was some hope to hold out for the Blue Wall, I remarked on the returns in Texas and Florida (Trump +9 in TX and +13 in FL at the time).

"We are never fucking moving back." It was a really sad moment. 

I'm more or less with you. No interest in riding out a second Trump term in TX. WA is a state that's grown a lot over the last 10-20 years and is only going to be more attractive to those looking to get out of red states - to say nothing of climate change - in the coming years. I feel like the most productive thing I can do is lean into building community here and trying to contribute to making things better at the local/state level.

And Canada's only a couple hours away.

All in all, it's a good place. If you can make it through one winter, you're a local. Get out and explore the state - and welcome.

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10 minutes ago, flatdawgs said:

All in all, it's a good place. If you can make it through one winter, you're a local. Get out and explore the state - and welcome.

Appreciate it. SIL/BIL lived here already so it's nice to have our people to show us the ropes.

Ain't paying no $80/day in rent or whatever it is to hang out inside like I still live in Houston, that's for sure. Summer was great and fall's been surprisingly lovely, actually. A little worried about the dead of winter in Jan-March when fall color and holidays are over, football winds down, and it's been dark for a couple months with plenty more to go, but cross that bridge when we get there.

3 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Depends what side of the Cascades, could be over in Wenatchee, or something to the East.

D3 is a must @gmr548

D3? Educate my rube Texpat mind.

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2 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Appreciate it. SIL/BIL lived here already so it's nice to have our people to show us the ropes.

Ain't paying no $80/day in rent or whatever it is to hang out inside like I still live in Houston, that's for sure. Summer was great and fall's been surprisingly lovely, actually. A little worried about the dead of winter in Jan-March when fall color and holidays are over, football winds down, and it's been dark for a couple months with plenty more to go, but cross that bridge when we get there.

D3? Educate my rube Texpat mind.

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Yeah I don't know what I thought you were referring to, but it wasn't the vitamin lol. So I've heard, though.

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5 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Yeah I don't know what I thought you were referring to, but it wasn't the vitamin lol. So I've heard, though.

Definitely, an asshole I may be, but it was torture my first year. I seriously was depressed. I don't want that for anyone going through winter up here. 

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