The Leopards Eating Faces and Unlubed Dildo of Consequences Thread

[GenXer 2833]

42 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Mike Johnson not at the table is flying under the radar but hysterical to me

Well… he’s accustomed to monitoring his son’s porn intake. This flight afforded him the opportunity to flex those skills. He’s monitoring the brain trust’s food intake.

[Horn Dog 9774]

Millions may not have health coverage if subsidies return to pre-Biden level

“the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office predicted that 3.4 million more people would become uninsured — and many of them live in states that lean heavily Republican. Health policy research organization KFF said that if the subsidy expansion expires, premiums would more than double in 12 heavily Republican states — including Texas, West Virginia and Alaska — while rising less sharply in many blue states.”

Spoiler

Patients, medical providers and insurance companies fear a shake-up in the Affordable Care Act marketplace that could cause millions of people to drop their health coverage, after Republicans’ election wins made it more likely that ACA insurance plans will get more expensive. Congress in 2021 increased federal subsidies for ACA plans, but that expansion expires at the end of 2025, and some conservative lawmakers have made clear that they oppose an extension. “Instead of perpetuating a tax-and-spend agenda, we can and should work together to improve health-care choice, affordability and reliability,” Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho), who is slated to lead the Senate Finance Committee, said at a September hearing where he expressed his desire not to continue the expanded subsidies. But eliminating the subsidy increase poses political risks. If subsidies fall to their pre-2021 level, experts say, many new subscribers would choose not to renew their coverage — the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office predicted that 3.4 million more people would become uninsured — and many of them live in states that lean heavily Republican. Health policy research organization KFF said that if the subsidy expansion expires, premiums would more than double in 12 heavily Republican states — including Texas, West Virginia and Alaska — while rising less sharply in many blue states.
President-elect Donald Trump has not publicly taken a position on the subsidies specifically, and a spokesperson for him did not respond to an inquiry from The Washington Post on the issue. But Trump has disparaged the Affordable Care Act for years, and Republicans have said they will use their congressional majority to significantly change the decade-old health care law. The Republican Study Committee included ending the expanded subsidies in a document of their plans. The Biden-era enhanced subsidies have led to huge growth in the number of people who buy health-care coverage on the marketplace, booming from between 11.4 million and 12.7 million people each year from 2015 to 2021, to 21.4 million this year. The costs of health-care premiums are heavily subsidized for most people who buy plans on the marketplace, and more than 90 percent of those subscribers receive some level of subsidy currently.

“Very clearly, it has made the marketplace more affordable and attractive to people who would otherwise be uninsured, and also made the marketplace more attractive to insurers,” said Cynthia Cox, who leads KFF’s research on the ACA. Health insurance marketplace subsidies come in the form of the Premium Tax Credit that was created as part of the Affordable Care Act. Recipients get the credit up-front when they sign up for coverage, but if their income at the end of the year ends up higher or lower than expected, they must pay back a portion of what they received or claim a larger credit on their tax return.
This year, the average marketplace customer pays $888 annually in premiums and receives $6,432 in subsidies, which would drop to $5,727 after 2025 under the current law, according to an analysis by KFF. That lower subsidy would mean an increase of 44 percent in the average customer’s premiums. With President Joe Biden’s support, Congress first expanded ACA subsides in 2021 and later extended them through 2025. Making them permanent this year would add $335 billion to the federal deficit over the next decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office. “It comes at a cost to the federal government and taxpayers, and it’s not cheap,” Cox said. Greg Fann, a right-leaning health policy expert, said he would favor ending the expansion of subsidies while boosting coverage in ways he views as more cost-effective, such as making premiums less expensive for younger people. But he notes “momentum” among Republicans for keeping the subsidies at their current levels to avoid a cascade of people losing coverage in 2026.

“I have talked to people that I wouldn’t say are in favor of them, but are also not really interested in taking them away before a midterm election,” Fann said. “I think any Republican change is going to be met with suspicion — the easy thing to do is to keep things as they are.” Letting the subsidy expansion expire could affect the marketplace as a whole, not just individual consumers. If the issue remains unresolved by the middle of next year, some insurers might leave the marketplace, expecting fewer customers next year. “That has an impact not just on those people but on the entire system,” said Brendan Buck, a spokesman for Keep Americans Covered, an advocacy effort backed by insurance companies, doctors and health groups such as the American Cancer Society and the American Heart Association. During a Senate hearing in September, Theo Merkel of Paragon Health Institute characterized increased subsidies as an expensive giveaway to insurers that does not control costs or improve insurance plans.
“When the government pays plans instead of people, insurers have less incentive to design plans that potential enrollees find valuable,” said Merkel, whose organization has published numerous papers criticizing various aspects of the Affordable Care Act. People below the poverty line are much more likely to be covered by Medicaid than the marketplace, which does not offer subsidies for families in poverty. For households earning one to four times the poverty limit, the ACA guarantees some level of subsidy. The ACA caps premiums at about 2 percent of income for households just above the poverty line, and the expanded subsidies of recent years made their premiums free. The ACA has no subsidies for families above four times the poverty level, while the Biden-era rules capped spending for those households at 8.5 percent of their household income — a massive discount for many. In states that have not expanded Medicaid, far more people have signed up for ACA plans in the Biden years, and their premiums stand to increase more. KFF’s analysis found that less than 6 percent of residents of Northeastern and West Coast states get their health coverage through the marketplace, while more than 10 percent of people in South Carolina, Georgia, Florida and much of Texas do. “The more modern populist Republican Party [is] probably going to be looking at — who am I helping and who am I hurting?” said Buck of Keep America Covered, a former staffer to Republicans John A. Boehner and Paul D. Ryan.

[Willfully Horn 7984]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

That would  require that the Democratic party stop rigging their primary. 

Predictable post. I mean, why would you discuss whether a political tactic would further the goals of the political left, when you can condemn the only political entity which includes folks that espouse those beliefs? 
 

You imply the Rs aren’t rigging their primary, through omission, Mr Both Sides. Continue throating, silently, the authoritarian tactics of the leader of the right. 
 

I
 

 

[DixonHur 11286]

I just heard a rumor that Trump is offering an olive branch to liberals by offering free Kool Aid to anyone who voted for Kamala on Friday from 3 to 3:15 ET.

Can anyone confirm?

[Anastasis 23437]

55 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Predictable post. I mean, why would you discuss whether a political tactic would further the goals of the political left, when you can condemn the only political entity which includes folks that espouse those beliefs? 
 

You imply the Rs aren’t rigging their primary, through omission, Mr Both Sides. Continue throating, silently, the authoritarian tactics of the leader of the right. 
 

I
 

 

If the R's were 1/10th as good as the Democrats at rigging their primaries, they wouldn't have a bunch of Democrats running this show right now. The R's really whiffed in 2016 while the D's ran their ship tight. Fast forward to 2024. 

 

 

Y'all should have listened to Bernie. 

Edited yesterday at 05:49 AM by Anastasis

[Willfully Horn 7984]

3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

If the R's were 1/10th as good as the Democrats at rigging their primaries, they wouldn't have a bunch of Democrats running this show right now. The R's really whiffed in 2016 while the D's ran their ship tight. Fast forward to 2024. 

 

 

Y'all should have listened to Bernie. 

Whiffed? I was unaware that word also meant getting on all fours and spreading buttcheeks.
 

 

[tx 3 putt 76737]

 

[PRONG HORN 3122]

 

 

 

 

[G650 14188]

6 hours ago, Anastasis said:

If the R's were 1/10th as good as the Democrats at rigging their primaries, they wouldn't have a bunch of Democrats running this show right now. The R's really whiffed in 2016 while the D's ran their ship tight. Fast forward to 2024. 

 

 

Y'all should have listened to Bernie. 

I actually agree with you here

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13562]

6 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Y'all should have listened to Bernie. 

I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primaries. Did you?

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13562]

8 hours ago, mchookem said:

that right there is a cult. 

I don't really fault anyone for not catching my sarcasm. We're dealing more with a de-programming issue than a messaging issue. 

[WhatTheBuck 28763]

On 11/16/2024 at 9:09 AM, Prepuce of Doom said:

Muslim leaders acknowledge the possibility of leopards. 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/

Should’ve been paying attention, dumbasses. 

[Nivek 16910]

14 hours ago, Red Five said:

Hey where did Dotard's hair go.

Cyberhair.  

[Pescado_Rojo 19397]

19 hours ago, GenXer said:

Eat your burger, brainworms.

Leopards eating their own face.

C'mon Boeing, do your thing! 

[Parliament 14190]

4 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Not EVERY farmer is a Trump voter.  Especially in Minnesota.  This guy might be collateral damage.

[TexArcher 37739]

1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Not EVERY farmer is a Trump voter.  Especially in Minnesota.  This guy might be collateral damage.

It's gonna be amazing in a couple of years when all the US soybean farmers can't wait to vote Trump out of office for tanking the soybean export market (when China imposes tariffs in response to ours).

Oh, but oops.  Shit.

[Incredulity 11605]

3 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

It's gonna be amazing in a couple of years when all the US soybean farmers can't wait to vote Trump out of office for tanking the soybean export market (when China imposes tariffs in response to ours).

Oh, but oops.  Shit.

newsflash:  US soybean exports to China are already fucked.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-soybean-trade-with-china-already-strained-before-trumps-return-2024-11-08/

[Pescado_Rojo 19397]

4 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

It's gonna be amazing in a couple of years when all the US soybean farmers can't wait to vote Trump out of office for tanking the soybean export market (when China imposes tariffs in response to ours).

Oh, but oops.  Shit.

Nah, he'll hand them more welfare (subsidies) to keep them happy and they'll vote R again because one day a trans kid might want to run track in their town of 100 people. 

[Anastasis 23437]

3 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primaries. 

So you know exactly what I am talking about then. 

[TexArcher 37739]

35 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

newsflash:  US soybean exports to China are already fucked.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-soybean-trade-with-china-already-strained-before-trumps-return-2024-11-08/

That in no way prevents them from getting more fucked.

[Incredulity 11605]

5 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

That in no way prevents them from getting more fucked.

That's true of course.  However the narrative that idoit soybean farmers rang the dinner bell for leopards when things were going fanfuckingtastic is bullshit as well.

[TexArcher 37739]

Just now, Incredulity said:

That's true of course.  However the narrative that idoit soybean farmers rang the dinner bell for leopards when things were going fanfuckingtastic is bullshit as well.

Nobody said things were going fanfuckingtastic.

This is a pretty horrible attempt at a rebuttal and you should go sit down.

[Incredulity 11605]

49 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

It's gonna be amazing in a couple of years when all the US soybean farmers can't wait to vote Trump out of office for tanking the soybean export market (when China imposes tariffs in response to ours).

 

YUP not at all what you were implying...

[TexArcher 37739]

Sure Trump crimes, but everybody else crimes, too, so it's okay!

Sure Trump will fuck over farmers with these tariffs, but they were kinda fucked already, so it's okay!

 

The Jesse Watters playbook doesn't really add anything to the discussion.  Neither do straw man arguments.  You can just fold the losing hand instead.

[Incredulity 11605]

3 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Sure Trump crimes, but everybody else crimes, too, so it's okay!

Sure Trump will fuck over farmers with these tariffs, but they were kinda fucked already, so it's okay!

 

The Jesse Watters playbook doesn't really add anything to the discussion.  Neither do straw man arguments.  You can just fold the losing hand instead.

No, you can just acknowledge the facts of the situation instead of spewing misinformation, which y'all make a daily practice of performatively pissing down your legs about.

[DDD Dad 14311]

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13562]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

So you know exactly what I am talking about then. 

Non answer noted.

[Captainant 27565]

yuck on this source, but it's actual reporting on incoming policy

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/3232941/trump-national-emergency-mass-deportation-program/

President-elect Donald Trump confirmed on Truth Social early Monday morning that his incoming administration will declare a national emergency and use military resources to implement a mass deportation of illegal immigrants. The confirmation was made in response to an earlier post by Tom Fitton, journalist and president of Judicial Watch. 

“GOOD NEWS: Reports are the incoming @RealDonaldTrump administration prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program,” Fitton posted. 

“TRUE!!” Trump responded, quoting Fitton’s post. 

[956 Worldwide 34632]

19 minutes ago, Captainant said:

yuck on this source, but it's actual reporting on incoming policy

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/3232941/trump-national-emergency-mass-deportation-program/

President-elect Donald Trump confirmed on Truth Social early Monday morning that his incoming administration will declare a national emergency and use military resources to implement a mass deportation of illegal immigrants. The confirmation was made in response to an earlier post by Tom Fitton, journalist and president of Judicial Watch. 

“GOOD NEWS: Reports are the incoming @RealDonaldTrump administration prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program,” Fitton posted. 

“TRUE!!” Trump responded, quoting Fitton’s post. 

The military is uniquely unsuited for this role, which is why DJT wants to bring them in.

First, it will ferret out the internal opponents and fence-sitters.  A lot of the officers who might get tasked with this will just resign.

Second, he wants to make the most powerful and important agency complicit. Authoritarians are well aware that this is the type of thing that can cause blowback later.  He wants to ensure no one has “clean hands” and that they see MAGAs continued rule as essential to their own future. 
 

We are far down the authoritarian path.

[royiv 9193]

23 hours ago, GenXer said:

Eat your burger, brainworms.

Leopards eating their own face.

Anyone done a welfare check on Vance? He’s been invisible as of late.

[DDD Dad 14311]

15 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The military is uniquely unsuited for this role, which is why DJT wants to bring them in.

First, it will ferret out the internal opponents and fence-sitters.  A lot of the officers who might get tasked with this will just resign.

Second, he wants to make the most powerful and important agency complicit. Authoritarians are well aware that this is the type of thing that can cause blowback later.  He wants to ensure no one has “clean hands” and that they see MAGAs continued rule as essential to their own future. 
 

We are far down the authoritarian path.

I suppose we'll have them quartering in our houses next.

[Gatorubet 30175]

40 minutes ago, Captainant said:

yuck on this source, but it's actual reporting on incoming policy

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/3232941/trump-national-emergency-mass-deportation-program/

President-elect Donald Trump confirmed on Truth Social early Monday morning that his incoming administration will declare a national emergency and use military resources to implement a mass deportation of illegal immigrants. The confirmation was made in response to an earlier post by Tom Fitton, journalist and president of Judicial Watch. 

“GOOD NEWS: Reports are the incoming @RealDonaldTrump administration prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program,” Fitton posted. 

“TRUE!!” Trump responded, quoting Fitton’s post. 

well, thanks to their broadcasting policy we have a few months to get the restraining orders ready to file. 

[MissingInAction 24949]

I expect more gunfire than usual in my hood when the roundups begin.

 

[WhatTheBuck 28763]

5 minutes ago, royiv said:

Anyone done a welfare check on Vance? He’s been invisible as of late.

Probably working on the transition with the Project 2025 folks at Heritage. 

[Gatorubet 30175]

3 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

I suppose we'll have them quartering in our houses next.

You won’t let a hero stay in your house? Why are you a communist?

[Pancho 44648]

[Horn Dog 9774]

[Chuckie Finster 22680]

39 minutes ago, royiv said:

Anyone done a welfare check on Vance? He’s been invisible as of late.

I've become convinced that the main purpose of JD Vance, at least in Trump's eyes, is assassination deterrence.  "Do you really want THAT GUY in charge?" is a hell of an argument against someone taking out Donald.

The fact that he picked JD two days after the Pennsylvania attempt only strengthens this case in my mind.

[Nivek 16910]

That in no way prevents them from getting more fucked.

What was the root cause of it? Look, these dumbfucks voted for it twice. So fuck em.

[workswithseed 2059]

26 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I've become convinced that the main purpose of JD Vance, at least in Trump's eyes, is assassination deterrence.  "Do you really want THAT GUY in charge?" is a hell of an argument against someone taking out Donald.

The fact that he picked JD two days after the Pennsylvania attempt only strengthens this case in my mind.

 

[Pig Bellmont 8710]

13 hours ago, Anastasis said:

If the R's were 1/10th as good as the Democrats at rigging their primaries, they wouldn't have a bunch of Democrats running this show right now. The R's really whiffed in 2016 while the D's ran their ship tight. Fast forward to 2024. 

 

 

Y'all should have listened to Bernie. 

This might be the laziest troll I’ve seen. I’d say you’re better than this, but I don’t actually think that

[Schulz2.0 28934]

3 hours ago, Incredulity said:

That's true of course.  However the narrative that idoit soybean farmers rang the dinner bell for leopards when things were going fanfuckingtastic is bullshit as well.

Trump's tariffs in his first term lead to China's pivot to South American soybeans over American.  Same for the pork market to China going away.

 

[bolverk 29617]

[High Plains Drifter 11007]

 

 

 

 

On 11/17/2024 at 12:19 PM, GenXer said:

Eat your burger, brainworms.

Leopards eating their own face.

 

lol. 

 

Only thing worse than Mc is cold Mc. 

Richest man in the world and a Kennedy are both too spineless to say "Nah, I'm not going to eat that shit." 

 

Does that airplane not have a galley and stewards?

 

 

[Foosters 17798]

28 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Does that airplane not have a galley and stewards?

 

 

yeah they're in the back getting sexually assaulted

[David Dennison 18813]

I like McDonald's.

Sorry not sorry.

[G650 14188]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

I like McDonald's.

Sorry not sorry.

 

 

[WhatTheBuck 28763]

2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Trump's tariffs in his first term lead to China's pivot to South American soybeans over American.  Same for the pork market to China going away.

 

Trump’s tariffs resulted in a record trade deficit with China and Trump gave a $25 Billion socialist handout to farmers hurt by his incompetent trade policy. 

[troph 24756]

Who the fuck with his kind of resources thinks McDonald’s is tasty or good for you? Jesus fucking Christ man. 

Edited yesterday at 10:10 PM by troph

[aggie08 21478]

4 minutes ago, troph said:

Who the fuck with his kind of resources thinks McDonald’s is tasty or good for you? Jesus fucking Christ man. 

Stuffing himself with McDonald's when there are better, almost as easy options available is the only relatable American thing about Donald J. Trump.

I'm sure his number crunchers tell him to keep playing the hits.

Edited yesterday at 10:14 PM by aggie08