The Leopards Eating Faces and Unlubed Dildo of Consequences Thread

[InkaUtexas 25814]

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I was just going off of the post I saw. I place full responsibility on that fucking sooner. 

So using the Quinn excuse for Audrey only showing tits and then him getting outed.

[tx 3 putt 76753]

 

[Bookman 4637]

Fuck yeah deport all the brown people!

[Goofyboy 3260]

the only staple that I buy that seems to still be high as giraffe pussy compared to pre-covid is butter. I remember a 4 stick 1lb pack of butter used to be $3ish dollars for the store brand and now it's like $5. However, other dairy products are the same as before; milk/cheese/sour cream/etc
 

20oz Diet Cokes. They are $3 now. It’s the one thing I’ve really watched go up in price over the last 8 years.

[Captainant 27575]

10 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

20oz Diet Cokes. They are $3 now. It’s the one thing I’ve really watched go up in price over the last 8 years.

At the grocery store, it's surprising how expensive some processed goods are. A 12 pack of Cokes went from $4-5 to $8-9 , for reasons that defy explanation aside from gouging. Fresh food items (outside of the store, not the aisles) have gone up a little, but not nearly as much as packaged processed foods

[Aqua Buddha 14579]

12 minutes ago, Captainant said:

At the grocery store, it's surprising how expensive some processed goods are. A 12 pack of Cokes went from $4-5 to $8-9 , for reasons that defy explanation aside from gouging. Fresh food items (outside of the store, not the aisles) have gone up a little, but not nearly as much as packaged processed foods

Mostly due to the price of packaging.  (They are packaged goods, after all.)  Just look at aluminum over the years.  (Below.)  There was a BIG aluminum shortage from late 2020 to mid 2021 to the point Big Soda stopped making certain flavors.  Also, there was some price gouging going on.  Big Food finally realized they had more pricing power than they thought.  They kept raising prices and unit sales roughly stayed the same.  People are generally brand loyal on most things.

[Evil Bill Obrien 3238]

10 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Mostly due to the price of packaging.  (They are packaged goods, after all.)  Just look at aluminum over the years.  (Below.)  There was a BIG aluminum shortage from late 2020 to mid 2021 to the point Big Soda stopped making certain flavors.  Also, there was some price gouging going on.  Big Food finally realized they had more pricing power than they thought.  They kept raising prices and unit sales roughly stayed the same.  People are generally brand loyal on most things.

What is that, a bar chart for ants?

[SydneyCarton 47992]

14 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Yes, processed foods are higher. And it sucks we live in a society where few have time to make meals without using it.

I reject this out of hand. You can make fresh meals every night, or at least semi fresh, with just some prep time during the weekend. 

Edited 11 hours ago by SydneyCarton

[Nivek 16910]

1 hour ago, Goofyboy said:

20oz Diet Cokes. They are $3 now. It’s the one thing I’ve really watched go up in price over the last 8 years.

A 12 pack is about $9, and it is mostly because people are willing to pay for it.  When their inventory gets too high, they just revert to sales of 3 12-packs for $4/each.   At the grocery store you can see people stocking up on it then.   It is entirely price gouging piggybacking on inflation.   Inflation was really about 8%.  What we saw in the stores were much higher than 8%.     Combine that with multiple egg shortages due to disease outbreak, the prices for those rocketed up as well.     The other issue is that we do not have a Teddy Roosevelt type of leadership to clamp down on the reactive and cartel type behaviors of price fixing.  If someone sells you a product that which you are addicted, they can raise the price and their buddy can raise the price and both of you benefit.   The free market is not so free.

 

[David Dennison 18820]

16 minutes ago, Nivek said:

A 12 pack is about $9, and it is mostly because people are willing to pay for it.  When their inventory gets too high, they just revert to sales of 3 12-packs for $4/each.   At the grocery store you can see people stocking up on it then.   It is entirely price gouging piggybacking on inflation.   Inflation was really about 8%.  What we saw in the stores were much higher than 8%.     Combine that with multiple egg shortages due to disease outbreak, the prices for those rocketed up as well.     The other issue is that we do not have a Teddy Roosevelt type of leadership to clamp down on the reactive and cartel type behaviors of price fixing.  If someone sells you a product that which you are addicted, they can raise the price and their buddy can raise the price and both of you benefit.   The free market is not so free.

Are you saying capitalism is rigged?

NO WAI!!!!!!

[InkaUtexas 25814]

17 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I reject this out of hand. You can make fresh meals every night, or at least semi frish, with just some prep time during the weekend. 

Same here. I go to HEB 3-4 times a week when it is open. Love making a crockpot of a nice soup on Sunday.

 

 

[David Dennison 18820]

21 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I reject this out of hand. You can make fresh meals every night, or at least semi frish, with just some prep time during the weekend. 

Counterpoint:

[Gooby 640]

15 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

This obsession with grocery prices is just weird. Are they THAT much higher? I have zero doubt that a lot of people bitching about the price of eggs still go out for dinner 1-2 times a week and probably buy lunch during the week too. All of a sudden Americans are such thrifty shoppers 

I read an article last week that said that, yes, grocery prices were up somewhat, but people are Uber Eats-ing and Door Dashing food and paying grocery store employees to shop for them so all the customer has to do is pick it up, and that's something that people aren't really taking in to account.  The $9.00 carton of eggs urban legend originated from a Door Dash price.

[G650 14205]

Trifling eating motherfuckers in this thread.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11814]

30 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

semi frish

For some reason this made me think of a Lingerie Football League sequel to Semi-Tough.

[InkaUtexas 25814]

Back to leopards and their diet. Nah, no impact on the economy under Trump's deportation plan.

 

[David Dennison 18820]

9 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Back to leopards and their diet. Nah, no impact on the economy under Trump's deportation plan.

 

Which is why I remain skeptical.

We shall see.

[Aqua Buddha 14579]

Walmart’s CFO John David Rainey said the retailer would likely have to raise prices on some items if President-elect Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs take effect.

“We never want to raise prices,” he said in an interview with CNBC on Tuesday. “Our model is everyday low prices. But there probably will be cases where prices will go up for consumers.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/19/walmart-says-new-trump-tariffs-could-raise-prices.html

[MissingInAction 24966]

49 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I reject this out of hand. You can make fresh meals every night, or at least semi frish, with just some prep time during the weekend. 

Yep. Every Sunday I cook up all the protein, lean ground beef and chicken breast for a week. Then use that along with frozen veggies, rice, etc to make a lot of different meals. 

Treat myself to fried catfish every Friday for lunch.

My dogs monthly food bill is more than mine.

[InkaUtexas 25814]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Which is why I remain skeptical.

We shall see.

There will be. They have enough in holding to send them back, make a show of it (Think USSR sham trials), claim victory and call Juanita to serve the margaritas on the patio at 7.

MAGA Bob and MaryJo will pop open a Busch and feel like they are part of the elite.

[SydneyCarton 47992]

19 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Back to leopards and their diet. Nah, no impact on the economy under Trump's deportation plan.

 

@G650 Do you guys have a plan of action regarding Construction?

[Brisketexan 104907]

56 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I reject this out of hand. You can make fresh meals every night, or at least semi frish, with just some prep time during the weekend. 

A few weeks ago, saw a random Reddit post from someone who had been homeless, and finally was in their first apartment.  They showed the food and cooking supplies they had bought, and were lamenting that they spent so much on that, they only had $18 to last the rest of the month.  And, based on what she had spent, she could really only eat one meal a day anyway.

Some actually kind-hearted folks responded, breaking down the food purchase choices made.  There were a LOT of "convenience" items on her counter -- things like pre-shredded hashbrowns, pre-cooked chicken fajita slices, etc.  It was clear that she really didn't have any idea how to cook or put meals together.  Folks broke down for her things like "you spend $3 on a 1 lb bag of shredded hash browns that you'll get three servings out of.  For $2.50, you could have bought a 5 lb sack of whole potatoes that you can bake, mash, roast, etc.  You bought pre-cooked chicken, 12 oz for $6.  You could have bought 3 lbs of chicken leg quarters for less than that.  Roast them, and you have 5 meals."

Poverty itself is a poverty trap.  One thing goes wrong and you get a $50 late charge, then you can't afford groceries next week.  And you spend too much on groceries because NOBODY ever taught you how to actually cook and use whole, simple ingredients.  It struck me at the beginning of the pandemic, when certain things were hard to find....I went into a Dollar General that was near my barber shop.  I was able to get TP, in a 4-pack.  I was able to get a single container of bleach wipes.  First, because panicking suburban women with money weren't swarming the store and buying 4,000 rolls of TP at a time.  But also because the kind of people who shop at Dollar General do NOT buy "in bulk," because they can't afford to buy in bulk.  They have $75 a week to spend on groceries and necessities.  So, they buy their TP 4 rolls at a time.  Which ultimately costs MORE.  It's the old Terry Pratchett "boots" theory of socioeconomics:

Quote

“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.”

To bring it back to this topic, so many of the people who suffer on the economic margins don't realize that the very people they just voted for are those who most support the most predatory economic model possible.  MORE fines, MORE late charges, MORE "free market" to fuck over and extract every possible penny from the poor, because while they don't have MUCH money, a little money from 100 million people added together is a lot of fucking money.

And yes, the Democratic party's failure to face that phenomenon head-on in recent decades has made them a less attractive alternative.  People picked the Leopards Who Will Eat Their Face as opposed to the Leopards of Indifference.  It's dumb as hell.....but the Leopards of Indifference are not without blame.

[SydneyCarton 47992]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

A few weeks ago, saw a random Reddit post from someone who had been homeless, and finally was in their first apartment.  They showed the food and cooking supplies they had bought, and were lamenting that they spent so much on that, they only had $18 to last the rest of the month.  And, based on what she had spent, she could really only eat one meal a day anyway.

Some actually kind-hearted folks responded, breaking down the food purchase choices made.  There were a LOT of "convenience" items on her counter -- things like pre-shredded hashbrowns, pre-cooked chicken fajita slices, etc.  It was clear that she really didn't have any idea how to cook or put meals together.  Folks broke down for her things like "you spend $3 on a 1 lb bag of shredded hash browns that you'll get three servings out of.  For $2.50, you could have bought a 5 lb sack of whole potatoes that you can bake, mash, roast, etc.  You bought pre-cooked chicken, 12 oz for $6.  You could have bought 3 lbs of chicken leg quarters for less than that.  Roast them, and you have 5 meals."

Poverty itself is a poverty trap.  One thing goes wrong and you get a $50 late charge, then you can't afford groceries next week.  And you spend too much on groceries because NOBODY ever taught you how to actually cook and use whole, simple ingredients.  It struck me at the beginning of the pandemic, when certain things were hard to find....I went into a Dollar General that was near my barber shop.  I was able to get TP, in a 4-pack.  I was able to get a single container of bleach wipes.  First, because panicking suburban women with money weren't swarming the store and buying 4,000 rolls of TP at a time.  But also because the kind of people who shop at Dollar General do NOT buy "in bulk," because they can't afford to buy in bulk.  They have $75 a week to spend on groceries and necessities.  So, they buy their TP 4 rolls at a time.  Which ultimately costs MORE.  It's the old Terry Pratchett "boots" theory of socioeconomics:

To bring it back to this topic, so many of the people who suffer on the economic margins don't realize that the very people they just voted for are those who most support the most predatory economic model possible.  MORE fines, MORE late charges, MORE "free market" to fuck over and extract every possible penny from the poor, because while they don't have MUCH money, a little money from 100 million people added together is a lot of fucking money.

And yes, the Democratic party's failure to face that phenomenon head-on in recent decades has made them a less attractive alternative.  People picked the Leopards Who Will Eat Their Face as opposed to the Leopards of Indifference.  It's dumb as hell.....but the Leopards of Indifference are not without blame.

Your post reminds me. We need trump to reverse the predatory fees for overdrawling your bank balance, late fees and junk fees. We need that shit to come back in a big way. 

[6th Street 6373]

From Bloomberg this AM

Oil Glut Set to Thwart Trump’s Call to ‘Frack, Frack, Frack’

 

(Bloomberg) -- President-elect Donald Trump’s vows to “frack, frack, frack” are about to collide with a global crude glut that’s set to, finally, temper record shale production

Trump has said he’ll push America’s shale companies to ramp up output – telling supporters pump prices would fall even if it meant producers “drill themselves out of business” — but his second term follows two straight years of record US output. Against that backdrop, analysts and traders surveyed by Bloomberg see the US adding just 251,000 barrels a day from the end of this year through 2025, the slowest pace since the pandemic-driven drop in 2020.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oil-glut-set-thwart-trump-120000284.html

 

 

[Brisketexan 104907]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Your post reminds me. We need trump to reverse the predatory fees for overdrawling your bank balance, late fees and junk fees. We need that shit to come back in a big way. 

Good.  Fucking.  Luck.  He may even say something like that.....but then the money will flow to him, and he'll reverse course post-haste.

Just now, 6th Street said:

From Bloomberg this AM

Oil Glut Set to Thwart Trump’s Call to ‘Frack, Frack, Frack’

 

(Bloomberg) -- President-elect Donald Trump’s vows to “frack, frack, frack” are about to collide with a global crude glut that’s set to, finally, temper record shale production

Trump has said he’ll push America’s shale companies to ramp up output – telling supporters pump prices would fall even if it meant producers “drill themselves out of business” — but his second term follows two straight years of record US output. Against that backdrop, analysts and traders surveyed by Bloomberg see the US adding just 251,000 barrels a day from the end of this year through 2025, the slowest pace since the pandemic-driven drop in 2020.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oil-glut-set-thwart-trump-120000284.html

Wait....you mean the laws of economics will still apply, regardless of any Royal Decree from His Majesty Lord Trump?  Shock and Surprise!

[David Dennison 18820]

15 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

A few weeks ago, saw a random Reddit post from someone who had been homeless, and finally was in their first apartment.  They showed the food and cooking supplies they had bought, and were lamenting that they spent so much on that, they only had $18 to last the rest of the month.  And, based on what she had spent, she could really only eat one meal a day anyway.

Some actually kind-hearted folks responded, breaking down the food purchase choices made.  There were a LOT of "convenience" items on her counter -- things like pre-shredded hashbrowns, pre-cooked chicken fajita slices, etc.  It was clear that she really didn't have any idea how to cook or put meals together.  Folks broke down for her things like "you spend $3 on a 1 lb bag of shredded hash browns that you'll get three servings out of.  For $2.50, you could have bought a 5 lb sack of whole potatoes that you can bake, mash, roast, etc.  You bought pre-cooked chicken, 12 oz for $6.  You could have bought 3 lbs of chicken leg quarters for less than that.  Roast them, and you have 5 meals."

Poverty itself is a poverty trap.  One thing goes wrong and you get a $50 late charge, then you can't afford groceries next week.  And you spend too much on groceries because NOBODY ever taught you how to actually cook and use whole, simple ingredients.  It struck me at the beginning of the pandemic, when certain things were hard to find....I went into a Dollar General that was near my barber shop.  I was able to get TP, in a 4-pack.  I was able to get a single container of bleach wipes.  First, because panicking suburban women with money weren't swarming the store and buying 4,000 rolls of TP at a time.  But also because the kind of people who shop at Dollar General do NOT buy "in bulk," because they can't afford to buy in bulk.  They have $75 a week to spend on groceries and necessities.  So, they buy their TP 4 rolls at a time.  Which ultimately costs MORE.  It's the old Terry Pratchett "boots" theory of socioeconomics:

To bring it back to this topic, so many of the people who suffer on the economic margins don't realize that the very people they just voted for are those who most support the most predatory economic model possible.  MORE fines, MORE late charges, MORE "free market" to fuck over and extract every possible penny from the poor, because while they don't have MUCH money, a little money from 100 million people added together is a lot of fucking money.

And yes, the Democratic party's failure to face that phenomenon head-on in recent decades has made them a less attractive alternative.  People picked the Leopards Who Will Eat Their Face as opposed to the Leopards of Indifference.  It's dumb as hell.....but the Leopards of Indifference are not without blame.

Well said.

Being poor is expensive.

[Constant 6723]

9 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Your post reminds me. We need trump to reverse the predatory fees for overdrawling your bank balance, late fees and junk fees. We need that shit to come back in a big way. 

I’m sure he’ll get right on that—it’s not like he’s predatory himself or anything.

[SydneyCarton 47992]

12 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Good.  Fucking.  Luck.  He may even say something like that.....but then the money will flow to him, and he'll reverse course post-haste.

Wait....you mean the laws of economics will still apply, regardless of any Royal Decree from His Majesty Lord Trump?  Shock and Surprise!

 

6 minutes ago, Constant said:

I’m sure he’ll get right on that—it’s not like he’s predatory himself or anything.

Y'all misunderstand me. Biden outlawed a ton of that fucking shit. It was big news. We need Trump to reverse Biden's policies. For maximum pain. 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/10/11/biden-harris-administration-announces-broad-new-actions-to-protect-consumers-from-billions-in-junk-fees/

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-administration-to-cap-credit-card-late-fees-at-8-in-move-against-junk-feesz

That's why I said those need to come back. 

Edited 11 hours ago by SydneyCarton

[G650 14205]

33 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

@G650 Do you guys have a plan of action regarding Construction?

Believe it or not we have zero immigrants on payroll. We had a brief flirtation in the early 00's but it did not go well. I'm honestly not sure if we even have anyone of Hispanic background right now. I think we must, just because of the odds, but I can't think of anyone off hand.

[G650 14205]

11 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Well said.

Being poor is expensive.

No doubt

[royiv 9193]

3 minutes ago, G650 said:

Believe it or not we have zero immigrants on payroll. We had a brief flirtation in the early 00's but it did not go well. I'm honestly not sure if we even have anyone of Hispanic background right now. I think we must, just because of the odds, but I can't think of anyone off hand.

I don’t think that completely insulates you. If the labor pool shrinks, cost of labor will go up. You will have to adjust or risk losing labor to competitors. Likewise, if costs rise enough it will stunt demand for construction.

[G650 14205]

2 minutes ago, royiv said:

I don’t think that completely insulates you. If the labor pool shrinks, cost of labor will go up. You will have to adjust or risk losing labor to competitors. Likewise, if costs rise enough it will stunt demand for construction.

Yes, but what I think most people miss is there are many labor pools. It isn't just "construction". We essentially nothing to do with say framing, or concrete, or structural, among others.

[Nivek 16910]

23 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

A few weeks ago, saw a random Reddit post from someone who had been homeless, and finally was in their first apartment.  They showed the food and cooking supplies they had bought, and were lamenting that they spent so much on that, they only had $18 to last the rest of the month.  And, based on what she had spent, she could really only eat one meal a day anyway.

I do wonder how much of this is cherry picked.   Look my food bill is high.  I have a family full of food allergens.  One kid who is allergic to peanuts, egg, and cannot tolerate lactose.  A wife who cannot have gluten or peanuts, a daughter who also needs to avoid gluten, and a boy who can eat anything.    A loaf of bread for my wife/daughter is $7-9, and it isn't particularly large.   A loaf of white bread is typically $2-3 and is double the size, but is also loaded with a bunch of bullshit and preservatives.   Due to a genetic mutation, enriched wheat products are a no-go in my home as well.    So I found Izzo sourdough bread which is about $4-5 for a load, can grow mold, and isn't loaded with preservatives and that works for us.  So, while a typical family might only spend $3 on bread per week, I spend about $12.   

Yes, there is a convenience price.  I tend to buy blocks of cheese and shred it myself.   My kids don't really do well with the dyes in candy, so I buy more expensive candy (giggles instead of skittles) to give them a treat.  Non-dairy ice cream is $4-6 a pint and is not always available with fewer alternatives.  Regular cow-milk, is $4-6 for a gallon.    

      

 

[InkaUtexas 25814]

36 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

A few weeks ago, saw a random Reddit post from someone who had been homeless, and finally was in their first apartment.  They showed the food and cooking supplies they had bought, and were lamenting that they spent so much on that, they only had $18 to last the rest of the month.  And, based on what she had spent, she could really only eat one meal a day anyway.

Some actually kind-hearted folks responded, breaking down the food purchase choices made.  There were a LOT of "convenience" items on her counter -- things like pre-shredded hashbrowns, pre-cooked chicken fajita slices, etc.  It was clear that she really didn't have any idea how to cook or put meals together.  Folks broke down for her things like "you spend $3 on a 1 lb bag of shredded hash browns that you'll get three servings out of.  For $2.50, you could have bought a 5 lb sack of whole potatoes that you can bake, mash, roast, etc.  You bought pre-cooked chicken, 12 oz for $6.  You could have bought 3 lbs of chicken leg quarters for less than that.  Roast them, and you have 5 meals."

Poverty itself is a poverty trap.  One thing goes wrong and you get a $50 late charge, then you can't afford groceries next week.  And you spend too much on groceries because NOBODY ever taught you how to actually cook and use whole, simple ingredients.  It struck me at the beginning of the pandemic, when certain things were hard to find....I went into a Dollar General that was near my barber shop.  I was able to get TP, in a 4-pack.  I was able to get a single container of bleach wipes.  First, because panicking suburban women with money weren't swarming the store and buying 4,000 rolls of TP at a time.  But also because the kind of people who shop at Dollar General do NOT buy "in bulk," because they can't afford to buy in bulk.  They have $75 a week to spend on groceries and necessities.  So, they buy their TP 4 rolls at a time.  Which ultimately costs MORE.  It's the old Terry Pratchett "boots" theory of socioeconomics:

To bring it back to this topic, so many of the people who suffer on the economic margins don't realize that the very people they just voted for are those who most support the most predatory economic model possible.  MORE fines, MORE late charges, MORE "free market" to fuck over and extract every possible penny from the poor, because while they don't have MUCH money, a little money from 100 million people added together is a lot of fucking money.

And yes, the Democratic party's failure to face that phenomenon head-on in recent decades has made them a less attractive alternative.  People picked the Leopards Who Will Eat Their Face as opposed to the Leopards of Indifference.  It's dumb as hell.....but the Leopards of Indifference are not without blame.

This is so damn true. I know following the Brisket mantra of giving zero fucks is all the rage, but i cannot go that way. I work with a start up non-profit trying to educate on food. We were discussing the website last night and I brought up an idea of simple $5 meals. It is harder when cooking for 1-2 people for sure, but it can be done. One of their outreach areas are students. They are going to add a page to the site about simple meals and tricks. Get off Door Dash is #1. #2 is make cooking a communal thing. Do potlucks, etc.

Thanks for some new ideas I will pass on to them.

 

[InkaUtexas 25814]

3 minutes ago, Nivek said:

I do wonder how much of this is cherry picked.   Look my food bill is high.  I have a family full of food allergens.  One kid who is allergic to peanuts, egg, and cannot tolerate lactose.  A wife who cannot have gluten or peanuts, a daughter who also needs to avoid gluten, and a boy who can eat anything.    A loaf of bread for my wife/daughter is $7-9, and it isn't particularly large.   A loaf of white bread is typically $2-3 and is double the size, but is also loaded with a bunch of bullshit and preservatives.   Due to a genetic mutation, enriched wheat products are a no-go in my home as well.    So I found Izzo sourdough bread which is about $4-5 for a load, can grow mold, and isn't loaded with preservatives and that works for us.  So, while a typical family might only spend $3 on bread per week, I spend about $12.   

Yes, there is a convenience price.  I tend to buy blocks of cheese and shred it myself.   My kids don't really do well with the dyes in candy, so I buy more expensive candy (giggles instead of skittles) to give them a treat.  Non-dairy ice cream is $4-6 a pint and is not always available with fewer alternatives.  Regular cow-milk, is $4-6 for a gallon.    

      

 

That sucks man. I was blessed with two kids who would eat anything by tomatoes. I love growing tomatoes.

But it is not BS what Brisket wrote. Go to a gas station near a construction site before or after work. See what the crews are buying for dinner. Go to a Dollar general and look at what they do sell. We can bitch about prices all we want, but we are overlooking a major reason for food inequality in this nation. Food Deserts do exist.

[Pig Bellmont 8710]

52 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

@G650 Do you guys have a plan of action regarding Construction?

Costs for labor and materials are going to go up significantly beyond current projections and it’s likely that opportunities for future work will be fewer and more competitive. All bets are off if the infrastructure act actually gets repealed 

[kevwun 15745]

Road construction companies have lots of friends in congress, both State and Federal.  You will pry all those construction projects out of their cold dead hands.

[G650 14205]

3 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Costs for labor and materials are going to go up significantly beyond current projections and it’s likely that opportunities for future work will be fewer and more competitive. All bets are off if the infrastructure act actually gets repealed 

Cost of material will absolutely go way up. Work load is tbd though. I have a suspicion we get a sugar rush high then collapse ala 2008.

[Pato del Muerto 52459]

24 minutes ago, G650 said:

Believe it or not we have zero immigrants on payroll. We had a brief flirtation in the early 00's but it did not go well. I'm honestly not sure if we even have anyone of Hispanic background right now. I think we must, just because of the odds, but I can't think of anyone off hand.

You’re on the cutting edge of trump’s dei policy

[speed817 19208]

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Back to leopards and their diet. Nah, no impact on the economy under Trump's deportation plan.

 

I should consider getting my driveway re-done now huh?

[G650 14205]

 The concrete guys are definitely going to take an ass whipping

[Dnaguy 11869]

7 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Costs for labor and materials are going to go up significantly beyond current projections and it’s likely that opportunities for future work will be fewer and more competitive. All bets are off if the infrastructure act actually gets repealed 

Tariffs plus deportations = The fucking thunderdome for construction. 
I was there post pandemic when you keep getting letters from suppliers: sorry we’re increasing prices. Bids that weren’t worth the paper they were printed bc material prices kept rising. Contractors will get fucked. Then their bids will be outrageous bc they try not to get fucked. Then government crack down for price gouging. And then layoffs bc people will just exit the space bc they can’t make $ or don’t want the headache anymore.

It’ll spiral and spiral quickly. 

[Goredho 17387]

7 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

I am personally kind of tired of this kind of "speculative scenarios wherein voters faces are eaten by the leopard they voted for".  Along with the "This soundbite destroys person X" and "unnamed sources close to the President say" items that are thrown around here like they are proven facts.   What this lady describes could very well prove to be accurate, but right now it's just worst-case conjecture about how Trump's deportation plans will be executed.  The jury of the court of public opinion registered its antipathy to this type of messaging during the election.  All it does is scare A) scare the shit out of people who are already scared or B) make you seem unhinged to the people that need to won over to a counter-MAGA movement.

For most voters, the general idea that "anyone in this country illegally should be deported" is not in and of itself a bad thing.  Like I don't categorically disagree with that.  Do I have a lot of confidence the incoming administration will carry that out justly with a scalpel vs a hatchet?  No.  But this is not a tangible and real concern for a distracted populace who voted for an economic breather.  Events need to be allowed to play out.  Don't propagate conjecture about citizens having to prove they are in the country legally, propagate the videos of people being wrongly deported if and when it happens.  This hypothetical doomcasting is part of the informational overload that is leading people to tune out and choose to be an uninformed voter.

For better or worse, the average citizen is going to need to witness some leopards ripping apart faces before they really start to consider, let alone buy into, the rhetoric.

[kevwun 15745]

I have a problem with it because those folk make our economy run and have for decades.  Trump's going to break our economy in ways people can't even imagine.

[G650 14205]

21 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

And then layoffs bc people will just exit the space bc they can’t make $ or don’t want the headache anymore.

Honestly, that's already happening pretty widely. We are down to just a handful of contractors in our segment.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21847]

The use of the military in Trump's deportation plan will be used as a loyalty test for the military.  Officers who refuse to carry out unlawful orders will be weeded out and replaced with cult members loyal to Trump.  The end result will be a military loyal to a man, not the country.

[Sawbonz 27514]

20 minutes ago, Goredho said:

I am personally kind of tired of this kind of "speculative scenarios wherein voters faces are eaten by the leopard they voted for".  Along with the "This soundbite destroys person X" and "unnamed sources close to the President say" items that are thrown around here like they are proven facts.   What this lady describes could very well prove to be accurate, but right now it's just worst-case conjecture about how Trump's deportation plans will be executed.  The jury of the court of public opinion registered its antipathy to this type of messaging during the election.  All it does is scare A) scare the shit out of people who are already scared or B) make you seem unhinged to the people that need to won over to a counter-MAGA movement.

For most voters, the general idea that "anyone in this country illegally should be deported" is not in and of itself a bad thing.  Like I don't categorically disagree with that.  Do I have a lot of confidence the incoming administration will carry that out justly with a scalpel vs a hatchet?  No.  But this is not a tangible and real concern for a distracted populace who voted for an economic breather.  Events need to be allowed to play out.  Don't propagate conjecture about citizens having to prove they are in the country legally, propagate the videos of people being wrongly deported if and when it happens.  This hypothetical doomcasting is part of the informational overload that is leading people to tune out and choose to be an uninformed voter.

For better or worse, the average citizen is going to need to witness some leopards ripping apart faces before they really start to consider, let alone buy into, the rhetoric.

lol

[G650 14205]

20 minutes ago, Goredho said:

For better or worse, the average citizen is going to need to witness some leopards ripping apart faces before they really start to consider, let alone buy into, the rhetoric.

The problem as I have always seen it, is that these sorts of consequences are usually so slow and insidious for the population writ large that no one notices until it's way too late.

[Sawbonz 27514]

They bought the tickets now we all get to take the ride

[Goredho 17387]

35 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I have a problem with it because those folk make our economy run and have for decades.  Trump's going to break our economy in ways people can't even imagine.

Hey, I like things the way they are, too.  But people voted for radical and unknowable change.  The populace was given ineffectual and increasingly histrionic warnings that fell on deaf ears.  And now no one can do anything about it until things get bad enough to result in a groundswell of support for a return to the way things were, if it ever arises.

Trump breaking the economy may very well happen.  It has yet to happen.  What is an undeniable fact is that too few people give a shit about the hypotheticals for them to carry any weight.  People will need to see and feel pain in their lives for these messages to resonate in their mind.  Here's to it being not as bad as feared around here.

Edited 9 hours ago by Goredho