The Leopards Eating Faces and Unlubed Dildo of Consequences Thread

[Pato del Muerto 52,582]

5 minutes ago, Goredho said:

It's all a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.  If I had to guess, these policies  are about manufacturing an economic/inflation crisis early (maybe even before he takes office) while throwing the previous administration under the bus for them.  Then changing policies discreetly, removing the manufactured crisis and saying, "I fixed that."  I mean, the election showed that a majority of people will accept that at face value should they bother to look outside their fish bowl.

Don’t think he cares at all about that. I think it’s more likely that he knows how damaging these things are and he’s going to say what will you give me to not do them, and see what the corporate class and politicians will do for him.  But it’s also a game of chicken that he’s controlling but unaffected by so not only will he keep saying not good enough until the offers stop getting better, he is just as likely to follow through if the offers aren’t deemed sufficient.  Reserve not met, sort of. 

[InkaUtexas 26,087]

1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Defeats the purpose, imports from Canada also getting hit with the tariffs.

We throw them across the border to the hippies.

[Goredho 17,417]

23 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Don’t think he cares at all about that. I think it’s more likely that he knows how damaging these things are and he’s going to say what will you give me to not do them, and see what the corporate class and politicians will do for him.  But it’s also a game of chicken that he’s controlling but unaffected by so not only will he keep saying not good enough until the offers stop getting better, he is just as likely to follow through if the offers aren’t deemed sufficient.  Reserve not met, sort of. 

Maybe?  I don't know.  We're both speculating on something we don't have direct insight into.

[BHMCruiser 1,816]

On 11/24/2024 at 6:39 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

Yeah but @fattyflattie and @BHMCruiser think that’s ok because reasons. The NRA represents gun owners and Donald Trump takes gun rights and the 2nd Amendment very seriously.

WTF did I do

I mean obviously Trump is better for gun owners than Kamala Harris but I'm not sure why I caught some fire on this one

[Pato del Muerto 52,582]

3 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

WTF did I do

I mean obviously Trump is better for gun owners than Kamala Harris but I'm not sure why I caught some fire on this one

And it’s obvious because…

[InkaUtexas 26,087]

6 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

WTF did I do

I mean obviously Trump is better for gun owners than Kamala Harris but I'm not sure why I caught some fire on this one

Why? She admitted she owned a gun and would shoot a mo fo.

I think under trump we will see restrictions. I cannot wait for the sales on craigslist for all the gravy seal gear.

[Pato del Muerto 52,582]

12 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Why? She admitted she owned a gun and would shoot a mo fo.

I think under trump we will see restrictions. I cannot wait for the sales on craigslist for all the gravy seal gear.

We already have video of bondi saying she’ll bring Florida’s red flag laws national, with him nodding along right next to her. 
 

 But again, like the tariffs, is this all a game of extortion to him to see what he can extract from industry and groups to change his position?

[bluto 4,942]

If tariffs do hit, say on modeolo beer, what are the true ramifications on the price for the consumer? Seems far too simplistic to just say a six pack that went for $10 would eventually be $12.50. 

[NorthLoop 14,235]

Drink local. 

[Pato del Muerto 52,582]

Just now, NorthLoop said:

Drink local. 

That will be easier to do when InBev and whomever else raise prices across their brands to deal with the imports, so a bud light costs the same as a local brew.   
 

Or maybe the microbrews will raise their prices as well because people pay a premium for them. 

[immamac 42,989]

5 minutes ago, bluto said:

If tariffs do hit, say on modeolo beer, what are the true ramifications on the price for the consumer? Seems far too simplistic to just say a six pack that went for $10 would eventually be $12.50. 

That's exactly how that goes. It is a predetermined increase in cost for the Importer and distributor and final retailer. 

[NorthLoop 14,235]

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Or maybe the microbrews will raise their prices as well because people pay a premium for them. 

You would hope that there is enough local competition to keep prices down, but who knows. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26,529]

45 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

WTF did I do

I mean obviously Trump is better for gun owners than Kamala Harris but I'm not sure why I caught some fire on this one

You didn’t do anything wrong. We simply disagree about two things:

1) whether the NRA’s advocacy is in the best interests of gun owners, or simply the incidental biproduct of other interests, primarily perpetuating itself and its proximity to power.

But more importantly: 

2) I do not think it’s “obvious” that President Trump will be better for gun owners than Kamala Harris. I think it is quite unlikely that’s true. If the constitution isn’t preserved and defended, the Second Amendment isn’t safe, or at least not for everyone.

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[Longhorn_Fan68 33,896]

I don't think people in Texas, a state with a housing boom and desperately needing more, realize how many building materials come from Canada and Mexico. Forget the laborers, you've just jacked up the price of lumber and millwork 20% or more, by the time it reaches the jobsite. the mere threat is reckless. the execution could be devastating. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Longhorn_Fan68

[Hermanator 7,144]

3 hours ago, immamac said:

I don't really understand the tariff angle trump seems to be leaning in on. He is already elected, why isn't leaning into it further now that people looked at it beyond owning the libs and now understand it would actually be bad? 

Is this part of the Nazi thing? Full on nationalism we don't need anyone else we can make everything in America? 

I watched a really interesting documentary about shrimp of all things and how Louisiana and Texas shrimping in the gulf has been hugely negatively impacted by mainly India and Ecuador imports of farm raised shitty shrimp. The need for protections for some of the domestic product like this are necessary but its also reality that 90%+ of all shrimp demand/consumption is on imported shrimp and no domestic wild caught production could actually meet the needs. 

I also learned about garlic which has a similar problem, but from California instead of abroad. Same deal, a large majority of garlic demand cannot possibly be serviced domestically. It seems like these non commodity goods which are consumption based are losing their value at the producer while the value chain remains the same or worse. The garlic producers that survived moved further vertical in the product chain, similar to the shrimp docs that have long term contracts for demand for restaurants that refuse to do import shrimp at their restaurants. To be clear gulf shrimp which are a far superior product to imported shit are the same price or sometimes lower per lb than farm raised ass tier garbage brought in from India. 

Its overall a good thing economically if HEB saves the gulf shrimping industry by vertically integrating production into distribution, sales and possibly even final product (ready to eat meals), but it shows that unless you have the scale and demand captured you can't protect these SMB style means of production. The aggregate production can't be the only thing that matters to people, because it ruins the actual value of the domestically produced product

Same thing with tools, cars, whatever. Tarrifs don't solve for the missing portion of production that cant possibly satiate demand just in the US. 

Whatever. None of this makes sense and in such an obviously damaging way that I'm trying to understand the strategy behind it. 

Do you try to understand why the "regard" eats his own shit?

[NorthLoop 14,235]

5 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I don't think people in Texas, a state with a housing boom and desperately needing more, realize how many building materials come from Canada and Mexico. Forget the laborers, you've just jacked up the price of lumber and millwork 20% or more, by the time it reaches the jobsite. the mere threat is reckless. the execution could be devastating. 

Maybe urban sprawl will come to a halt and everyone will move back to the inner cities. 

[InkaUtexas 26,087]

6 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I don't think people in Texas, a state with a housing boom and desperately needing more, realize how many building materials come from Canada and Mexico. Forget the laborers, you've just jacked up the price of lumber and millwork 20% or more, by the time it reaches the jobsite. the mere threat is reckless. the execution could be devastating. 

Easy solution. All those unemployed liberal arts professors and professionals can go plants trees in midland. I mean, takes only 30 minutes to dig a hole and plant a tree right? Elon can make plastic cars for the masses (like the Nazi's did with the VW Beetle). Beer? Ain't no one but good old boys gonna have time for drinking, and they go their own stills. The rich can drink Russian vodka.

Shit will be simple under Trump. You will see. McDonalds Uber Alles.

[Pato del Muerto 52,582]

9 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I don't think people in Texas, a state with a housing boom and desperately needing more, realize how many building materials come from Canada and Mexico. Forget the laborers, you've just jacked up the price of lumber and millwork 20% or more, by the time it reaches the jobsite. the mere threat is reckless. the execution could be devastating. 

And a lot of European lumber used to come from Russia I think before heavy sanctions hit them. 
 

hey, wait a minute…

you don’t think that heavy tariffs on Canada followed by loosening sanctions on Russia would help Russia, do you?  And even if so, why would Trump want to do that?  Haha so ludicrous. 

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[InkaUtexas 26,087]

2 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Maybe urban sprawl will come to a halt and everyone will move back to the inner cities. 

See, then the environment will be happy, so there ya go. Tenements for all.

[Foosters 17,884]

37 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

We already have video of bondi saying she’ll bring Florida’s red flag laws national, with him nodding along right next to her. 
 

 But again, like the tariffs, is this all a game of extortion to him to see what he can extract from industry and groups to change his position?

No, no, no. That's not how it works. 

As Trump supporters will tell you, you are not supposed to take anything he says seriously. Makes one wonder why you'd vote for someone when every policy consideration is the mystery flavor.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,896]

3 minutes ago, Foosters said:

No, no, no. That's not how it works. 

As Trump supporters will tell you, you are not supposed to take anything he says seriously. Makes one wonder why you'd vote for someone when every policy consideration is the mystery flavor.

short answer: people are fucking dumb, bro.

[miguelito 11,302]

Kamala owns a gun.

Trump isn't legally allowed to own a gun.

[pyrohornIII 4,818]

17 hours ago, Captainant said:

Same shit different name, but it's the same problem.

 

Unless we're just off the rails on day one, an executive order doesn't overrule the law 

Can't he issue an executive order that would overrule the law in the event of an "emergency?"  Didn't he try that with the Muslim ban that got struck down eventually?  

3 hours ago, immamac said:

I don't really understand the tariff angle trump seems to be leaning in on. He is already elected, why isn't leaning into it further now that people looked at it beyond owning the libs and now understand it would actually be bad? 

Is this part of the Nazi thing? Full on nationalism we don't need anyone else we can make everything in America? 

I watched a really interesting documentary about shrimp of all things and how Louisiana and Texas shrimping in the gulf has been hugely negatively impacted by mainly India and Ecuador imports of farm raised shitty shrimp. The need for protections for some of the domestic product like this are necessary but its also reality that 90%+ of all shrimp demand/consumption is on imported shrimp and no domestic wild caught production could actually meet the needs. 

I also learned about garlic which has a similar problem, but from California instead of abroad. Same deal, a large majority of garlic demand cannot possibly be serviced domestically. It seems like these non commodity goods which are consumption based are losing their value at the producer while the value chain remains the same or worse. The garlic producers that survived moved further vertical in the product chain, similar to the shrimp docs that have long term contracts for demand for restaurants that refuse to do import shrimp at their restaurants. To be clear gulf shrimp which are a far superior product to imported shit are the same price or sometimes lower per lb than farm raised ass tier garbage brought in from India. 

Its overall a good thing economically if HEB saves the gulf shrimping industry by vertically integrating production into distribution, sales and possibly even final product (ready to eat meals), but it shows that unless you have the scale and demand captured you can't protect these SMB style means of production. The aggregate production can't be the only thing that matters to people, because it ruins the actual value of the domestically produced product

Same thing with tools, cars, whatever. Tarrifs don't solve for the missing portion of production that cant possibly satiate demand just in the US. 

Whatever. None of this makes sense and in such an obviously damaging way that I'm trying to understand the strategy behind it. 

and......

18 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

That will be easier to do when InBev and whomever else raise prices across their brands to deal with the imports, so a bud light costs the same as a local brew.   
 

Or maybe the microbrews will raise their prices as well because people pay a premium for them. 

Anything that interrupts supply will increase demand, and prices will go up.  And corporations have shown in the past few years how bold they are about placing their price gouging inside these market adjustments.  Even when the market levels out and the emergency is gone, the prices stay the same, the profit margins increase.    It's like another pot of water gradually reaching boiling point.

10 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I don't think people in Texas, a state with a housing boom and desperately needing more, realize how many building materials come from Canada and Mexico. Forget the laborers, you've just jacked up the price of lumber and millwork 20% or more, by the time it reaches the jobsite. the mere threat is reckless. the execution could be devastating. 

Another part of this equation is home repairs due to more and more extreme weather events, and yes, homeowner's insurance going up to compensate.  See price gouging.  

[Biff Tannen 45,721]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Don’t think he cares at all about that. I think it’s more likely that he knows how damaging these things are and he’s going to say what will you give me to not do them, and see what the corporate class and politicians will do for him.  But it’s also a game of chicken that he’s controlling but unaffected by so not only will he keep saying not good enough until the offers stop getting better, he is just as likely to follow through if the offers aren’t deemed sufficient.  Reserve not met, sort of. 

And this is the BEST case scenario 

[workswithseed 2,110]

I just thought of this, but a lot of gun manufacturers are in Europe. 

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Squed

[pyrohornIII 4,818]

I also think the deportation thing is smoke and mirrors:

1) Rattle swords about deportation

2) Develop a set of for hire bounty hunting organizations that would be manned by a lot of oathkeepers, etc.

3) Restructure the private pay prision system into "holding facilities" and now and then gradually deport someone

4) Private prison investors win, Trump turns oathkeeper assholes into his own brownshirts

5) Taxpayers foot the bill

6) No one really gets deported, but simply held.  In fact, probably see the return of renting out work details like the TDC used to do. 

7) Democrats are blamed for using laws and courts to block these mass deportations.

 

[Hank Kingsley 21,048]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

You're thinking too far into it. This is a guy who couldn't handle being wrong so he used a sharpie to alter a hurricane path on live TV becuase he can't handle being wrong. He never admits to being wrong about anything. He can't answer simple questions.

He said he's going to implement Tariffs, so he's going to implement tariffs. And when they cause chaos he'll blame someone else. It's what deranged narcissists do...looking for logic is a fool's errand. 

Correct. Trump already won his war on Election Day. He doesn't give a shit about what happens next. 

 

[Biff Tannen 45,721]

5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Correct. Trump already won his war on Election Day. He doesn't give a shit about what happens next. 

 

The delusion by his cult (and even some “moderate” Rs) that this conman gives a flying fuck about them or this country is one of the wildest parts of the entire simulation. No rational human could look at what he has done and said and come to that conclusion. 

[InkaUtexas 26,087]

5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Correct. Trump already won his war on Election Day. He doesn't give a shit about what happens next. 

 

We keep talking Trump. The ones to watch are those behind him. That is who I want the leopards to get first.

Sadly,  none of them will feel any pain nor run for office. Talking Miller, Don Jr. Etc.

[Chad Fuck 17,753]

5 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

We keep talking Trump. The ones to watch are those behind him. That is who I want the leopards to get first.

Sadly,  none of them will feel any pain nor run for office. Talking Miller, Don Jr. Etc.

Last go around, a lot of them felt some pain.  Not as much as I'd like, but still.  Tfg really knows how to make sure he himself doens't suffer and that it always falls on the Michael Cohens and Steve Bannons of the world.  

[Leeroy Jenkins 2,413]

56 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Kamala owns a gun.

Trump isn't legally allowed to own a gun.

I wonder if Trump has actually ever shot a gun?

[Pato del Muerto 52,582]

He “bought” that we the people gun from that place in…South Carolina?  That they had to go back and claim he didn’t.  Thats his short gun experience I bet. He’s probably shot skeet with som rich people.