The Leopards Eating Faces and Unlubed Dildo of Consequences Thread

[Pato del Muerto 52586]

5 minutes ago, Goredho said:

It's all a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.  If I had to guess, these policies  are about manufacturing an economic/inflation crisis early (maybe even before he takes office) while throwing the previous administration under the bus for them.  Then changing policies discreetly, removing the manufactured crisis and saying, "I fixed that."  I mean, the election showed that a majority of people will accept that at face value should they bother to look outside their fish bowl.

Don’t think he cares at all about that. I think it’s more likely that he knows how damaging these things are and he’s going to say what will you give me to not do them, and see what the corporate class and politicians will do for him.  But it’s also a game of chicken that he’s controlling but unaffected by so not only will he keep saying not good enough until the offers stop getting better, he is just as likely to follow through if the offers aren’t deemed sufficient.  Reserve not met, sort of. 

[InkaUtexas 26093]

1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Defeats the purpose, imports from Canada also getting hit with the tariffs.

We throw them across the border to the hippies.

[Goredho 17419]

23 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Don’t think he cares at all about that. I think it’s more likely that he knows how damaging these things are and he’s going to say what will you give me to not do them, and see what the corporate class and politicians will do for him.  But it’s also a game of chicken that he’s controlling but unaffected by so not only will he keep saying not good enough until the offers stop getting better, he is just as likely to follow through if the offers aren’t deemed sufficient.  Reserve not met, sort of. 

Maybe?  I don't know.  We're both speculating on something we don't have direct insight into.

[BHMCruiser 1818]

On 11/24/2024 at 6:39 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

Yeah but @fattyflattie and @BHMCruiser think that’s ok because reasons. The NRA represents gun owners and Donald Trump takes gun rights and the 2nd Amendment very seriously.

WTF did I do

I mean obviously Trump is better for gun owners than Kamala Harris but I'm not sure why I caught some fire on this one

[Pato del Muerto 52586]

3 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

WTF did I do

I mean obviously Trump is better for gun owners than Kamala Harris but I'm not sure why I caught some fire on this one

And it’s obvious because…

[InkaUtexas 26093]

6 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

WTF did I do

I mean obviously Trump is better for gun owners than Kamala Harris but I'm not sure why I caught some fire on this one

Why? She admitted she owned a gun and would shoot a mo fo.

I think under trump we will see restrictions. I cannot wait for the sales on craigslist for all the gravy seal gear.

[Pato del Muerto 52586]

12 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Why? She admitted she owned a gun and would shoot a mo fo.

I think under trump we will see restrictions. I cannot wait for the sales on craigslist for all the gravy seal gear.

We already have video of bondi saying she’ll bring Florida’s red flag laws national, with him nodding along right next to her. 
 

 But again, like the tariffs, is this all a game of extortion to him to see what he can extract from industry and groups to change his position?

[bluto 4942]

If tariffs do hit, say on modeolo beer, what are the true ramifications on the price for the consumer? Seems far too simplistic to just say a six pack that went for $10 would eventually be $12.50. 

[NorthLoop 14240]

Drink local. 

[Pato del Muerto 52586]

Just now, NorthLoop said:

Drink local. 

That will be easier to do when InBev and whomever else raise prices across their brands to deal with the imports, so a bud light costs the same as a local brew.   
 

Or maybe the microbrews will raise their prices as well because people pay a premium for them. 

[immamac 43008]

5 minutes ago, bluto said:

If tariffs do hit, say on modeolo beer, what are the true ramifications on the price for the consumer? Seems far too simplistic to just say a six pack that went for $10 would eventually be $12.50. 

That's exactly how that goes. It is a predetermined increase in cost for the Importer and distributor and final retailer. 

[NorthLoop 14240]

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Or maybe the microbrews will raise their prices as well because people pay a premium for them. 

You would hope that there is enough local competition to keep prices down, but who knows. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26535]

45 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

WTF did I do

I mean obviously Trump is better for gun owners than Kamala Harris but I'm not sure why I caught some fire on this one

You didn’t do anything wrong. We simply disagree about two things:

1) whether the NRA’s advocacy is in the best interests of gun owners, or simply the incidental biproduct of other interests, primarily perpetuating itself and its proximity to power.

But more importantly: 

2) I do not think it’s “obvious” that President Trump will be better for gun owners than Kamala Harris. I think it is quite unlikely that’s true. If the constitution isn’t preserved and defended, the Second Amendment isn’t safe, or at least not for everyone.

Edited 4 hours ago by Bozo_Casanova

[Longhorn_Fan68 33898]

I don't think people in Texas, a state with a housing boom and desperately needing more, realize how many building materials come from Canada and Mexico. Forget the laborers, you've just jacked up the price of lumber and millwork 20% or more, by the time it reaches the jobsite. the mere threat is reckless. the execution could be devastating. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Longhorn_Fan68

[Hermanator 7157]

3 hours ago, immamac said:

I don't really understand the tariff angle trump seems to be leaning in on. He is already elected, why isn't leaning into it further now that people looked at it beyond owning the libs and now understand it would actually be bad? 

Is this part of the Nazi thing? Full on nationalism we don't need anyone else we can make everything in America? 

I watched a really interesting documentary about shrimp of all things and how Louisiana and Texas shrimping in the gulf has been hugely negatively impacted by mainly India and Ecuador imports of farm raised shitty shrimp. The need for protections for some of the domestic product like this are necessary but its also reality that 90%+ of all shrimp demand/consumption is on imported shrimp and no domestic wild caught production could actually meet the needs. 

I also learned about garlic which has a similar problem, but from California instead of abroad. Same deal, a large majority of garlic demand cannot possibly be serviced domestically. It seems like these non commodity goods which are consumption based are losing their value at the producer while the value chain remains the same or worse. The garlic producers that survived moved further vertical in the product chain, similar to the shrimp docs that have long term contracts for demand for restaurants that refuse to do import shrimp at their restaurants. To be clear gulf shrimp which are a far superior product to imported shit are the same price or sometimes lower per lb than farm raised ass tier garbage brought in from India. 

Its overall a good thing economically if HEB saves the gulf shrimping industry by vertically integrating production into distribution, sales and possibly even final product (ready to eat meals), but it shows that unless you have the scale and demand captured you can't protect these SMB style means of production. The aggregate production can't be the only thing that matters to people, because it ruins the actual value of the domestically produced product

Same thing with tools, cars, whatever. Tarrifs don't solve for the missing portion of production that cant possibly satiate demand just in the US. 

Whatever. None of this makes sense and in such an obviously damaging way that I'm trying to understand the strategy behind it. 

Do you try to understand why the "regard" eats his own shit?

[NorthLoop 14240]

5 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I don't think people in Texas, a state with a housing boom and desperately needing more, realize how many building materials come from Canada and Mexico. Forget the laborers, you've just jacked up the price of lumber and millwork 20% or more, by the time it reaches the jobsite. the mere threat is reckless. the execution could be devastating. 

Maybe urban sprawl will come to a halt and everyone will move back to the inner cities. 

[InkaUtexas 26093]

6 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I don't think people in Texas, a state with a housing boom and desperately needing more, realize how many building materials come from Canada and Mexico. Forget the laborers, you've just jacked up the price of lumber and millwork 20% or more, by the time it reaches the jobsite. the mere threat is reckless. the execution could be devastating. 

Easy solution. All those unemployed liberal arts professors and professionals can go plants trees in midland. I mean, takes only 30 minutes to dig a hole and plant a tree right? Elon can make plastic cars for the masses (like the Nazi's did with the VW Beetle). Beer? Ain't no one but good old boys gonna have time for drinking, and they go their own stills. The rich can drink Russian vodka.

Shit will be simple under Trump. You will see. McDonalds Uber Alles.

[Pato del Muerto 52586]

9 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I don't think people in Texas, a state with a housing boom and desperately needing more, realize how many building materials come from Canada and Mexico. Forget the laborers, you've just jacked up the price of lumber and millwork 20% or more, by the time it reaches the jobsite. the mere threat is reckless. the execution could be devastating. 

And a lot of European lumber used to come from Russia I think before heavy sanctions hit them. 
 

hey, wait a minute…

you don’t think that heavy tariffs on Canada followed by loosening sanctions on Russia would help Russia, do you?  And even if so, why would Trump want to do that?  Haha so ludicrous. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Pato del Muerto

[InkaUtexas 26093]

2 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Maybe urban sprawl will come to a halt and everyone will move back to the inner cities. 

See, then the environment will be happy, so there ya go. Tenements for all.

[Foosters 17885]

37 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

We already have video of bondi saying she’ll bring Florida’s red flag laws national, with him nodding along right next to her. 
 

 But again, like the tariffs, is this all a game of extortion to him to see what he can extract from industry and groups to change his position?

No, no, no. That's not how it works. 

As Trump supporters will tell you, you are not supposed to take anything he says seriously. Makes one wonder why you'd vote for someone when every policy consideration is the mystery flavor.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33898]

3 minutes ago, Foosters said:

No, no, no. That's not how it works. 

As Trump supporters will tell you, you are not supposed to take anything he says seriously. Makes one wonder why you'd vote for someone when every policy consideration is the mystery flavor.

short answer: people are fucking dumb, bro.

[miguelito 11307]

Kamala owns a gun.

Trump isn't legally allowed to own a gun.

[pyrohornIII 4820]

17 hours ago, Captainant said:

Same shit different name, but it's the same problem.

 

Unless we're just off the rails on day one, an executive order doesn't overrule the law 

Can't he issue an executive order that would overrule the law in the event of an "emergency?"  Didn't he try that with the Muslim ban that got struck down eventually?  

3 hours ago, immamac said:

I don't really understand the tariff angle trump seems to be leaning in on. He is already elected, why isn't leaning into it further now that people looked at it beyond owning the libs and now understand it would actually be bad? 

Is this part of the Nazi thing? Full on nationalism we don't need anyone else we can make everything in America? 

I watched a really interesting documentary about shrimp of all things and how Louisiana and Texas shrimping in the gulf has been hugely negatively impacted by mainly India and Ecuador imports of farm raised shitty shrimp. The need for protections for some of the domestic product like this are necessary but its also reality that 90%+ of all shrimp demand/consumption is on imported shrimp and no domestic wild caught production could actually meet the needs. 

I also learned about garlic which has a similar problem, but from California instead of abroad. Same deal, a large majority of garlic demand cannot possibly be serviced domestically. It seems like these non commodity goods which are consumption based are losing their value at the producer while the value chain remains the same or worse. The garlic producers that survived moved further vertical in the product chain, similar to the shrimp docs that have long term contracts for demand for restaurants that refuse to do import shrimp at their restaurants. To be clear gulf shrimp which are a far superior product to imported shit are the same price or sometimes lower per lb than farm raised ass tier garbage brought in from India. 

Its overall a good thing economically if HEB saves the gulf shrimping industry by vertically integrating production into distribution, sales and possibly even final product (ready to eat meals), but it shows that unless you have the scale and demand captured you can't protect these SMB style means of production. The aggregate production can't be the only thing that matters to people, because it ruins the actual value of the domestically produced product

Same thing with tools, cars, whatever. Tarrifs don't solve for the missing portion of production that cant possibly satiate demand just in the US. 

Whatever. None of this makes sense and in such an obviously damaging way that I'm trying to understand the strategy behind it. 

and......

18 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

That will be easier to do when InBev and whomever else raise prices across their brands to deal with the imports, so a bud light costs the same as a local brew.   
 

Or maybe the microbrews will raise their prices as well because people pay a premium for them. 

Anything that interrupts supply will increase demand, and prices will go up.  And corporations have shown in the past few years how bold they are about placing their price gouging inside these market adjustments.  Even when the market levels out and the emergency is gone, the prices stay the same, the profit margins increase.    It's like another pot of water gradually reaching boiling point.

10 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I don't think people in Texas, a state with a housing boom and desperately needing more, realize how many building materials come from Canada and Mexico. Forget the laborers, you've just jacked up the price of lumber and millwork 20% or more, by the time it reaches the jobsite. the mere threat is reckless. the execution could be devastating. 

Another part of this equation is home repairs due to more and more extreme weather events, and yes, homeowner's insurance going up to compensate.  See price gouging.  

[Biff Tannen 45727]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Don’t think he cares at all about that. I think it’s more likely that he knows how damaging these things are and he’s going to say what will you give me to not do them, and see what the corporate class and politicians will do for him.  But it’s also a game of chicken that he’s controlling but unaffected by so not only will he keep saying not good enough until the offers stop getting better, he is just as likely to follow through if the offers aren’t deemed sufficient.  Reserve not met, sort of. 

And this is the BEST case scenario 

[workswithseed 2110]

I just thought of this, but a lot of gun manufacturers are in Europe. 

Edited 3 hours ago by workswithseed
Squed

[pyrohornIII 4820]

I also think the deportation thing is smoke and mirrors:

1) Rattle swords about deportation

2) Develop a set of for hire bounty hunting organizations that would be manned by a lot of oathkeepers, etc.

3) Restructure the private pay prision system into "holding facilities" and now and then gradually deport someone

4) Private prison investors win, Trump turns oathkeeper assholes into his own brownshirts

5) Taxpayers foot the bill

6) No one really gets deported, but simply held.  In fact, probably see the return of renting out work details like the TDC used to do. 

7) Democrats are blamed for using laws and courts to block these mass deportations.

 

[Hank Kingsley 21049]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

You're thinking too far into it. This is a guy who couldn't handle being wrong so he used a sharpie to alter a hurricane path on live TV becuase he can't handle being wrong. He never admits to being wrong about anything. He can't answer simple questions.

He said he's going to implement Tariffs, so he's going to implement tariffs. And when they cause chaos he'll blame someone else. It's what deranged narcissists do...looking for logic is a fool's errand. 

Correct. Trump already won his war on Election Day. He doesn't give a shit about what happens next. 

 

[Biff Tannen 45727]

5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Correct. Trump already won his war on Election Day. He doesn't give a shit about what happens next. 

 

The delusion by his cult (and even some “moderate” Rs) that this conman gives a flying fuck about them or this country is one of the wildest parts of the entire simulation. No rational human could look at what he has done and said and come to that conclusion. 

[InkaUtexas 26093]

5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Correct. Trump already won his war on Election Day. He doesn't give a shit about what happens next. 

 

We keep talking Trump. The ones to watch are those behind him. That is who I want the leopards to get first.

Sadly,  none of them will feel any pain nor run for office. Talking Miller, Don Jr. Etc.

[Chad Fuck 17755]

5 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

We keep talking Trump. The ones to watch are those behind him. That is who I want the leopards to get first.

Sadly,  none of them will feel any pain nor run for office. Talking Miller, Don Jr. Etc.

Last go around, a lot of them felt some pain.  Not as much as I'd like, but still.  Tfg really knows how to make sure he himself doens't suffer and that it always falls on the Michael Cohens and Steve Bannons of the world.  

[Leeroy Jenkins 2414]

56 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Kamala owns a gun.

Trump isn't legally allowed to own a gun.

I wonder if Trump has actually ever shot a gun?

[Pato del Muerto 52586]

He “bought” that we the people gun from that place in…South Carolina?  That they had to go back and claim he didn’t.  Thats his short gun experience I bet. He’s probably shot skeet with som rich people. 

[Horn Dog 9914]

 

More of this!

[Hermanator 7157]

1 hour ago, BHMCruiser said:

WTF did I do

I mean obviously Trump is better for gun owners than Kamala Harris but I'm not sure why I caught some fire on this one

Yes, gun ownership and rights is always best under paranoid authoritarian despots running a totalitarian shit hole. 

Russian gun rights have never been stronger!

[Gil Bang 26005]

2 hours ago, BHMCruiser said:

WTF did I do

 

[BHMCruiser 1818]

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

You didn’t do anything wrong. We simply disagree about two things:

1) whether the NRA’s advocacy is in the best interests of gun owners, or simply the incidental biproduct of other interests, primarily perpetuating itself and its proximity to power.

But more importantly: 

2) I do not think it’s “obvious” that President Trump will be better for gun owners than Kamala Harris. I think it is quite unlikely that’s true. If the constitution isn’t preserved and defended, the Second Amendment isn’t safe, or at least not for everyone.

Debating the NRA and its efforts, or the fruits of those efforts (like, for example, Bruen) is probably a pointless exercise. You and I can just agree to disagree on that. 

Even if Trump is, at best, agnostic on guns, he is not actively hostile to them at the highest level like the Biden administration was. If you are naive enough to fall for Kamala's lies about owning a type of gun she advocated banning in California and her pandering about using one to defend herself, then.....okay. 

I'm not a fan of Bondi, especially on guns, but I cannot parse your doomsday comment on the destruction of the constitution. I can tell you that people in Trump's inner circle are very big on gun rights and will have some positive influence there. Will it be perfect? Probably not. But maybe your idea of trading suppressors for red flags will have some chance of coming true. 

  

[Gil Bang 26005]

1 minute ago, BHMCruiser said:

Debating the NRA and its efforts, or the fruits of those efforts (like, for example, Bruen) is probably a pointless exercise. You and I can just agree to disagree on that. 

Even if Trump is, at best, agnostic on guns, he is not actively hostile to them at the highest level like the Biden administration was. If you are naive enough to fall for Kamala's lies about owning a type of gun she advocated banning in California and her pandering about using one to defend herself, then.....okay. 

I'm not a fan of Bondi, especially on guns, but I cannot parse your doomsday comment on the destruction of the constitution. I can tell you that people in Trump's inner circle are very big on gun rights and will have some positive influence there. Will it be perfect? Probably not. But maybe your idea of trading suppressors for red flags will have some chance of coming true. 

  

You have difficulty believing that a county prosecutor, district attorney, and attorney general would own a gun and know how to use it? 

 

 

[BHMCruiser 1818]

2 hours ago, miguelito said:

Kamala owns a gun.

So she claims (but I doubt it). Maybe she bought a Glock using the law enforcement carveout, but regular citizens of California cannot buy Glocks because they aren't on the approved handgun roster. Anyway, here's a link to her amicus brief in Heller arguing in favor of a handgun ban:

https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/DCvHellerHarrisBrief.pdf

 

3 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

You have difficulty believing that a county prosecutor, district attorney, and attorney general would own a gun and know how to use it? 

 

 

I have difficulty believing that one would

[BHMCruiser 1818]

Maybe she does. But the point is she has a long history of hostility toward gun rights, as did Joe Biden. That's all I'm saying. 

[Hermanator 7157]

You can have any pistol in California as long as the magazine doesn't hold over 10 rounds. 

[Hermanator 7157]

Just now, BHMCruiser said:

Maybe she does. But the point is she has a long history of hostility toward gun rights, as did Joe Biden. That's all I'm saying. 

Describe that history of hostility. 

Because the last 4 years sure as shit didn't infringe on your gun rights. 

You've been brainwashed on stupid stuff so they can keep you complacent while they rob you of the important stuff. 

[Superhero 8836]

2 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

Drink local. 

Red Trolley FTW. 805 if I’m out doing yard work. But they probably get their hops from Europe, so prices may still go up.

 

10 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

So she claims (but I doubt it). Maybe she bought a Glock using the law enforcement carveout, but regular citizens of California cannot buy Glocks because they aren't on the approved handgun roster.

Wrong. A few of my friends have Glocks. It’s weird that previous versions  of Glocks are permitted, but not newer versions.

[Superhero 8836]

/LeopardsAteMyFace subreddit is also good if this thread isn’t enough for you. 

[BHMCruiser 1818]

8 minutes ago, Superhero said:

Wrong. A few of my friends have Glocks. It’s weird that previous versions  of Glocks are permitted, but not newer versions.

Interesting. According to the rules as I understand them, you could buy a Glock before 2001 and it was grandfathered in. I just looked at the list and it appears you can buy a Generation 3, but only the Austrian-made ones. I stand corrected.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search?make=150972

20 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

You can have any pistol in California as long as the magazine doesn't hold over 10 rounds. 

That's not true. There's a list of handguns you can purchase in California and not everything is on it. There's been a lot of litigation about the approved handgun roster, the testing that goes into it, the grandfathering, guns being removed, etc.

[NorthLoop 14240]

2 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

Interesting. According to the rules as I understand them, you could buy a Glock before 2001 and it was grandfathered in. I just looked at the list and it appears you can buy a Generation 3, but only the Austrian-made ones. I stand corrected.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search?make=150972

That's not true. There's a list of handguns you can purchase in California and not everything is on it. There's been a lot of litigation about the approved handgun roster, the testing that goes into it, the grandfathering, guns being removed, etc.

Now answer Herminator's last question. 

[Gil Bang 26005]

39 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

So she claims (but I doubt it). Maybe she bought a Glock using the law enforcement carveout, but regular citizens of California cannot buy Glocks because they aren't on the approved handgun roster. Anyway, here's a link to her amicus brief in Heller arguing in favor of a handgun ban:

https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/DCvHellerHarrisBrief.pdf

 

I have difficulty believing that one would

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.  Glocks are available at every fucking gun shop in San Diego.  

There are 54 Glocks approved for sale in CA 

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search?make=150972

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Gil Bang

[Gil Bang 26005]

26 minutes ago, Superhero said:

Red Trolley FTW. 805 if I’m out doing yard work. But they probably get their hops from Europe, so prices may still go up.

 

Wrong. A few of my friends have Glocks. It’s weird that previous versions  of Glocks are permitted, but not newer versions.

As I understand it, it's the "drop test".  Some haven't been submitted, some haven't passed.  

[BHMCruiser 1818]

2 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.  Glocks are available at every fucking gun shop in San Diego.  

There are 54 Glocks approved for sale in CA 

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search?make=150972

 

I already admitted my mistake and that Gen 3 Austrian made handguns are legal in California.

[BHMCruiser 1818]

Just now, Gil Bang said:

As I understand it, it's the "drop test".  Some haven't been submitted, some haven't passed.  

I thought it was the lack of a loaded chamber indicator (sufficient to satisfy CalDOJ) so they were not submitted. I was unaware of any drop test issues for any models of the Glocks and don't understand why the newer ones would fare worse than the older Gen 3 design. 

[BHMCruiser 1818]

Anywho thanks so much Bozo for tagging me and pulling me into this. REALLY APPRECIATE IT