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1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

The other option being voting Harris who stated she was......wait for it.....opposed to the sale.

It's a nothingburger.

 

Can we get some blueskys from @antifipuddingpop now please?

So you don't understand the point of the thread, gotcha.

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24 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

The other option being voting Harris who stated she was......wait for it.....opposed to the sale.

It's a nothingburger.

 

Can we get some blueskys from @antifipuddingpop now please?

Lies = Nothingburgers

Very, very on brand.

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33 minutes ago, Foosters said:

are you lost? We're mocking the people who believed him and voted for him and are now going to be hurt. what are you arguing against/with?

You are arguing with a very dumb and lame troll

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8 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

please provide examples of Trump saying he supported US steel and Nippon merger

Okay, did a 1 minute review after searching and I retract.  Trump did not say during the campaign that he was in favor of the Nippon Steel deal.  So the local union guys who feel betrayed by Trump's position weren't lied to, they're just dumb. This also probably doesn't fit the thread since these people were going to get fucked no matter who won.

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Looks like Trump said back in aug that he’d block the merger.

Makes sense that xenophobic and maga trump wouldn’t want Japanese and US company merger.

Steel workers appear more to be wishcasting and tantrum throwing than a case of LAMF.

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The biggest issue is not that they are idiots, we all knew that after the election, the real question is how do we communicate with these fucking idiots. There has to be an outreach program from day 1 on every moron that avoids politics 47/95 months every 4/8 years

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2 minutes ago, linux said:

The biggest issue is not that they are idiots, we all knew that after the election, the real question is how do we communicate with these fucking idiots. There has to be an outreach program from day 1 on every moron that avoids politics 47/95 months every 4/8 years

There is.  It's called "Flood social media with tasty, easily digestible lies that they want to hear."

That's it.  That's the entire plan.  It works.  We should do that next time.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

There is.  It's called "Flood social media with tasty, easily digestible lies that they want to hear."

That's it.  That's the entire plan.  It works.  We should do that next time.

Yes, but we also fuck up on this forum with the no politics discussion on the football/recruiting board.

If I could root cause the idiocracy this would probably be it something like 30% of the population absolute refuses to engage with the most important discussion of our lives but still gets to vote on election day and pat themselves on the back. I want everyone to to keep posting to these steelworkers every single day after their plant gets shut down that "them getting fired was the will of OUR republican president and that their sacrifice was worth it". That is how you get through to people, people are allergic to facts and logic, but people love emotion, well connect their emotional despair to Donald Trump.

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2 minutes ago, linux said:

Yes, but we also fuck up on this forum with the no politics discussion on the football/recruiting board.

If I could root cause the idiocracy this would probably be it something like 30% of the population absolute refuses to engage with the most important discussion of our lives but still gets to vote on election day and pat themselves on the back. I want everyone to to keep posting to these steelworkers every single day after their plant gets shut down that "them getting fired was the will of OUR republican president and that their sacrifice was worth it". That is how you get through to people, people are allergic to facts and logic, but people love emotion, well connect their emotional despair to Donald Trump.

Connecting that emotional despair to fact-based things is not enough.  You have to make up outrageous, inflammatory lies.

I didn't make these rules.  I'm just telling you what they are.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

Connecting that emotional despair to fact-based things is not enough.  You have to make up outrageous, inflammatory lies.

I didn't make these rules.  I'm just telling you what they are.

It's a delicate balance, I still don't think becoming liars is a winning strategy and at the end of the day we still have almost everyone that is logical and factual on our tent, but we have to stop avoiding the clearest of all realities we have to embrace populism and push politics everywhere all at once, the United States is in an economic/republic decline not unlike what Rome went through, we absolutely need to jetison the policy wonks, the adults in the room because while I think 40-45% are irredeemable (hateful ideocracy), that is not why the election was lost it was lost because of the detached ideocracy.

That is assuming our Ceasar is not successful at establishing the empire before he croaks.

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Just now, linux said:

I still don't think becoming liars is a winning strategy

Despite the rock-solid, tangible evidence to the contrary staring you in the face.  Look at election results over the past decade.  They are what they are.

LYING FUCKING WORKS.  NOT LYING DOES NOT WORK.

1 minute ago, linux said:

because while I think 40-45% are irredeemable (hateful ideocracy), that is not why the election was lost it was lost because of the detached ideocracy.

Yes.  And how do you communicate effectively with and persuade idiots?  NOT WITH FACTS AND EVIDENCE.  YOU DO IT BY APPEAL TO EXTREME EMOTION, WHICH CAN ONLY BE ACCOMPLISHED BY OUTRAGEOUS LIES.

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Despite the rock-solid, tangible evidence to the contrary staring you in the face.  Look at election results over the past decade.  They are what they are.

LYING FUCKING WORKS.  NOT LYING DOES NOT WORK.

Yes.  And how do you communicate effectively with and persuade idiots?  NOT WITH FACTS AND EVIDENCE.  YOU DO IT BY APPEAL TO EXTREME EMOTION, WHICH CAN ONLY BE ACCOMPLISHED BY OUTRAGEOUS LIES.

You can still appeal to emotion and not lie, Trump lying about tariffs being paid by China is a clear lie, but saying that you will increase real salaries for working families by for example doubling minimum wage is a partial truth, perhaps unsustainable in the medium to long term but enough to have seen him go away.  

At the end of the day democrats messaging went from BBB, to austerity THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS and that is why we get crushed by the absolute trash of this earth, it should have gone from BBB in year one to double down with handouts and promises for the working class, Poverty IS rising we need to drill down to people on who did this to them, and that is our only ticket to finally end the "republicans are better for the economy" murderball. Even if inflation rises even if the macro indicators are sluggish, the number 1 goal was to prevent the orange ball from power and they chose to follow the corpocrats and chase never trumpers.

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"I'm going to make inflation go away."

"Gasoline will be so cheap you won't even believe it."

You have to promise simple, stupid, outrageous things.  The kid who ran for 4th grade class president (and I selected that year because that level is the average level of intelligence of Americans) who promised ice cream and pizza for lunch every day and no more tests ALWAYS WON.  ALWAYS.  Promise the people ice cream and pizza and no taxes and you will ban fans of the football team they hate and you will protect them from the man-eating lions roaming their neighborhoods and you will send every American a tax rebate check for $10,000 and blah blah blah....AND YOU WILL WIN.  100% of the time, you will win.

Once you win, THEN you can govern....because most of those people won't be paying any attention.  Then, when it's time to run for re-election, just lie about what you did, say it was awesome, and deny any of the bad shit you did, calling your opponent who says such things "fake news."  Boom.  Re-elected.

Stop making this complicated.  The voters certainly aren't.

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Inflation was the absolute most disgusting trap and we fell for it hook line and sinker, it is like they set up this Willy E Coyote painted train tunnel and we ran head first into it.

The fundamentals is that REAL salaries are dropping, if these rise it does not matter what inflation really is you still get a decade or two of fucking peace. Instead we ran head first into austerity and then we wonder why Biden was not popular. He could have been 110 and still won if he did not value his legacy above doing what should have been his #1 job, keep the traitor out.

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7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Despite the rock-solid, tangible evidence to the contrary staring you in the face.  Look at election results over the past decade.  They are what they are.

LYING FUCKING WORKS.  NOT LYING DOES NOT WORK.

Yes.  And how do you communicate effectively with and persuade idiots?  NOT WITH FACTS AND EVIDENCE.  YOU DO IT BY APPEAL TO EXTREME EMOTION, WHICH CAN ONLY BE ACCOMPLISHED BY OUTRAGEOUS LIES.

Unfortunately, it's not quite that easy because you have to get to a plurality, which means that you need to get a good chunk of the idiots without losing the rest of your voters.  That works for the GQP because they have a rare mix of idiots / racists / misogynists that want to be lied to along with a craven group of greedy MFers that don't care if the GQP is lying nonstop to group #1.  The Democrats unfortunately have principled citizens among their base that might just stay home if their representatives are incessantly lying.  The trick is to get those voters to understand the implied "wink-wink, we don't believe any of this" while having the media help flood the zone with lies.  It's a tough balancing act when you don't have an echo chamber that won't ask the obvious "why the fuck are you lying about obvious shit" question.

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1 minute ago, Gap03 said:

Unfortunately, it's not quite that easy because you have to get to a plurality, which means that you need to get a good chunk of the idiots without losing the rest of your voters.  That works for the GQP because they have a rare mix of idiots / racists / misogynists that want to be lied to along with a craven group of greedy MFers that don't care if the GQP is lying nonstop to group #1.  The Democrats unfortunately have principled citizens among their base that might just stay home if their representatives are incessantly lying.  The trick is to get those voters to understand the implied "wink-wink, we don't believe any of this" while having the media help flood the zone with lies.  It's a tough balancing act when you don't have an echo chamber that won't ask the obvious "why the fuck are you lying about obvious shit" question.

Exactly it is not as easy as just lying, we need to cut out the MSM though they are 120% in the corpocrat side, their tent is to keep the corporation happy so no more CNN, MSNBC, et all treat them as elites out of touch.

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Economics is not a real science, it is all a fucking lie, yes I do believe that Kamala's entrepreneurial economy is not a disaster maybe even the adult thing to promise but it is fucking allergic, the common worker wants better salaries, that was it, they did not care that eggs are now at $4 a dozen, they wanted to earn $20 an hour to offset it with 15 minutes of work. Democrats keep going to the austerity well and it fucking kills me. If we are all going down lets at least be the ones in power not the ones sniffing our own farts with a superiority complex.

I always knew that being the goldman and sachs candidate was poison, but I always believed the revulsion of DJT was enough to delay the thumping, nope... dead wrong, people really are that stupid that they hate the man but still think he is going to lift them out of poverty they just pinched their nose, this is reason #1, #2, and #3 we lost.

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3 minutes ago, linux said:

Economics is not a real science, it is all a fucking lie, yes I do believe that Kamala's entrepreneurial economy is not a disaster maybe even the adult thing to promise but it is fucking allergic, the common worker wants better salaries, that was it, they did not care that eggs are now at $4 a dozen, they wanted to earn $20 an hour to offset it with 15 minutes of work. Democrats keep going to the austerity well and it fucking kills me. If we are all going down lets at least be the ones in power not the ones sniffing our own farts with a superiority complex.

I always knew that being the goldman and sachs candidate was poison, but I always believed the revulsion of DJT was enough to delay the thumping, nope... dead wrong, people really are that stupid that they hate the man but still think he is going to lift them out of poverty they just pinched their nose, this is reason #1, #2, and #3 we lost.

Just promise the people free money, low prices, and you'll hurt everyone they don't like and blame for their failures even though they are largely responsible for their failures.  Oh, and suck billionaire cock, cup the balls and gargle the gravy.  Let them know they can do whatever they want with no government interference.  Gotta get the oligarchs on your side, too.  That's important.

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6 hours ago, GenXer said:

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Looks like Trump said back in aug that he’d block the merger.

Makes sense that xenophobic and maga trump wouldn’t want Japanese and US company merger.

Steel workers appear more to be wishcasting and tantrum throwing than a case of LAMF.

 

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