The Leopards Eating Faces and Unlubed Dildo of Consequences Thread

[hookemATL 12240]

40 minutes ago, mdmost said:

So Trump said this morning on NBC that he will end birthright citizenship and deport the families of illegals even if they were born here. Not sure how you get around the 14th amendment but he will try. So again, people who were born here to parents who are undocumented and you voted for Trump, how you feeling about that now?

Ideally they all experience life altering pain and suffer for their ignorance at the most extreme level. It’s the only way for these dumbshit motherfuckers to learn, and I’m done caring about the well being of those that would toss me/mine to the wolves for the sake of maga.

[mchookem 16765]

49 minutes ago, mdmost said:

So Trump said this morning on NBC that he will end birthright citizenship and deport the families of illegals even if they were born here. Not sure how you get around the 14th amendment but he will try. So again, people who were born here to parents who are undocumented and you voted for Trump, how you feeling about that now?

 

[BevoAbyss 2180]

Widespread government-imposed pain, anguish, cruelty, violence, barbarism, and even much death are coming to fascist America.

History shows that is exactly what the cults of fascism deliver (along with the cults of communism).

America will prove to be no exception. 

 

Edited December 8 by BevoAbyss

[Biff Tannen 46150]

I’m still laughing at “rat-faced hillbilly”. 

[wood 11763]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

So Trump said this morning on NBC that he will end birthright citizenship and deport the families of illegals even if they were born here. Not sure how you get around the 14th amendment but he will try. So again, people who were born here to parents who are undocumented and you voted for Trump, how you feeling about that now?

Apparently he also said something about working with the Dems to try and work out a legality plan for Dreamers. I don't remember him saying anything like that during the campaign, or am I misremembering? Of course, he still wants to end birthright citizenship.

Trump details sweeping changes he’ll carry out on day one and beyond in an exclusive interview
Trump vowed to launch a mass deportation effort, impose tariffs and pardon many convicted in the Jan. 6 attack in an interview with “Meet the Press” moderator Kristen Welker. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-details-sweeping-changes-ll-carry-day-one-exclusive-interview-rcna182858

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President-elect Donald Trump vowed to make immediate and sweeping changes after he takes office on Jan. 20, such as pardons for those convicted in the attack on the U.S. Capitol, and said he wants to find a legislative solution to keep Dreamers in the country legally.

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An exception might be the “Dreamers” — people who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children and have lived here for years. He voiced openness toward a legislative solution that would allow them to remain in the country.

“I will work with the Democrats on a plan,” he said, praising “Dreamers” who’ve gotten good jobs, started businesses and become successful residents. “We’re going to have to do something with them,” he said.

He also said he intends to eliminate birthright citizenship, the protection enshrined in the 14th Amendment that guarantees citizenship to anyone born on U.S. soil regardless of their parents. Asked about the likelihood that doing so unilaterally would face legal opposition, Trump said he would consider amending the Constitution.

 

[mdmost 43940]

3 minutes ago, wood said:

Apparently he also said something about working with the Dems to try and work out a legality plan for Dreamers. I don't remember him saying anything like that during the campaign, or am I misremembering?

He said that when he was president and never did a thing. 

[Gap03 3386]

12 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I’m still laughing at “rat-faced hillbilly”. 

[wood 11763]

10 minutes ago, mdmost said:

He said that when he was president and never did a thing. 

Yeah I'm seeing people saying he tried in the first term but 'Pelosi torpedoed it'. Smells like bullshit.

[Gatorubet 30710]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

So Trump said this morning on NBC that he will end birthright citizenship and deport the families of illegals even if they were born here

I admit that Mexico gets a positive benefit from the American expats who receive and spent their retirement dollars in Mexico - but the social and economic upheaval of deporting all those people into Mexico would far outweigh the hit of deporting the American ex-pats.   If the above situation should come to pass, I don’t think that the Mexican President’s expressed views on the subject can be ignored.  

[Nice Guy Eddie 13725]

21 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

When we were bored in the middle school library, we would pull those order cards out of magazines and order them COD to teachers whose addresses we pulled from the phone book.

I would have been too afraid that prank would have been placed on my permanent record and followed me for the rest of my life.

[wood 11763]

25 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I admit that Mexico gets a positive benefit from the American expats who receive and spent their retirement dollars in Mexico - but the social and economic upheaval of deporting all those people into Mexico would far outweigh the hit of deporting the American ex-pats.   If the above situation should come to pass, I don’t think that the Mexican President’s expressed views on the subject can be ignored.  

Is she talking about deporting American expats living in Mx ?

[RDCanecutter 26871]

5 minutes ago, wood said:

Is she talking about deporting American expats living in Mx ?

She sorta laid it out there as a maybe. No matter how much the waiter in Cabo laughs at our jokes, he goes home and it's still 1848.

[wood 11763]

2 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

She sorta laid it out there as a maybe. No matter how much the waiter in Cabo laughs at our jokes, he goes home and it's still 1848.

Welp. Thanks Trump. Mexico is our most frequent, favorite vacation destination. I was telling Mrs. Wood (no pics) the other day that we'd better start planning a trip there, because there's no telling how much longer we'll be welcome the way we always have been.

[RDCanecutter 26871]

Just now, wood said:

Welp. Thanks Trump. Mexico is our most frequent, favorite vacation destination. I was telling Mrs. Wood (no pics) the other day that we'd better start planning a trip there, because there's no telling how much longer we'll be welcome the way we always have been.

You'll still be welcome there if you truly love the place. Mexico sheltered lots of Red Scare Exiled Americans in more prejudiced times than this.

[Francisco 2.0 32585]

https://newrepublic.com/article/189054/trump-immigration-threats-republican-resistance

Suddenly, Trump’s Ugliest Threats Are Facing Surprise GOP Resistance

 

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There are still nearly two months to go before Donald Trump assumes the presidency again, but Republicans or GOP-adjacent industries have already begun to admit out loud that some of his most important policy promises could prove disastrous in their parts of the country.

These folks don’t say this too directly, out of fear of offending the MAGA God King. Instead, they suggest gingerly that a slight rethink might be in order. But unpack what they’re saying, and you’ll see that they’re in effect acknowledging that some of Trump’s biggest campaign promises were basically scams.

 

 

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In Georgia, for instance, some local Republicans are openly worried about Trump’s threat to roll back President Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act. The IRA is pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into incentives for the manufacture and purchase of green energy technologies, from electric vehicles to batteries to solar power. Trump endlessly derided this as the “green new scam” and pledged to repeal all uncommitted funds.

But now The New York Times reports that Trump supporters like state Representative Beth Camp fear that repeal could destroy jobs related to new investments in green manufacturing plants in the state. Camp worries that this could leave factories in Georgia “sitting empty.”

You heard that right: This Republican is declaring that Trump’s threatened actions could leave factories sitting empty. 

 

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One of Trump’s central campaign claims was that Biden’s green energy investments will cause enormous job losses in manufacturing sectors like the traditional auto industry. In reality, the IRA is spurring an outpouring of private investment that’s creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs, many in advanced manufacturing and well suited for people without college degrees—in the very areas that in MAGA folklore were abandoned by liberal and Democratic elites.

Now Republicans are declaring that repeal of the IRA is the thing that could create empty factories. Another Georgia GOP state lawmaker tells the Times that repealing tax credits encouraging the use of solar panels could make local manufacturing “jobs disappear.” House Republicans from districts benefiting from these investments are also primed to resist.

 

Spoiler

All this directly undercuts one of Trump’s biggest ideas—that government efforts to spur the transition to a sustainable future must by definition existentially threaten the working class, whose well-being depends on tripling down on fossil fuels—and exposes it as the monumental scam that it is.

Something similar is also already happening with Trump’s threat to deport millions of undocumented immigrants. Reuters reports that agriculture interests, which are heavily concentrated in GOP areas, are urging the incoming Trump administration to refrain from removing untold numbers of migrants working throughout the food supply chain, including in farming, dairy, and meatpacking. 

Notably, GOP Representative John Duarte, who just lost his seat in the elections, explicitly tells Reuters that farming interests in his California district depend on undocumented immigrants—and that Trump should exempt many from removal. Duarte and industry representatives want more avenues created for migrants to work here legally—the precise opposite of what Trump promised.

Now over to Texas. NPR reports that various industries there fear that mass deportations could cripple them, particularly in construction, where nearly 300,000 undocumented immigrants toiled as of 2022. Those workers enable the state to keep growing despite a native population that isn’t supplying a large enough workforce. Local analysts and executives want Trump to refrain from removing all these people or create new ways for them to work here legally. Even the Republican mayor of McKinney, Texas, is loudly sounding the alarm.

Meanwhile, back in Georgia, Trump’s threat of mass deportations is awakening new awareness that undocumented immigrants drive industries like construction, landscaping, and agriculture, reports The Wall Street Journal. In Dalton, a town that backed Trump, fear is spreading that removals could “upend its economy and workforce.”

At this point, someone will argue that all this confirms Trump’s arguments—that these industries and their representatives merely fear losing cheap migrant labor that enables them to avoid paying Americans higher wages. When JD Vance and Trump pushed their lie about Haitians eating pets in Springfield, Ohio, Vance insisted that he opposed the Haitian influx into Midwestern towns because they’re undercutting U.S. workers.

But all these disparate examples of Republicans and GOP areas lamenting coming mass deportations suggest an alternate story, one detailed well by the Times’ Lydia DePillis. In the MAGA worldview, a large reserve of untapped native-born Americans in prime working age are languishing in joblessness throughout Trump country—and will stream into all these industries once migrants are removed en masse, boosting wages.  

But DePillis documents that things like poor health and disability are more important drivers of unemployment among this subset of non-college working-age men. Besides, migrants living and working here don’t just perform labor that Americans will not. They also consume and boost demand, creating more jobs.

As Paul Krugman puts it, in all these ways, migrant laborers are “complements” to U.S. workers. Importantly, that’s the argument that these Republicans and industries in GOP areas are really making when they lament mass deportations: Migrant labor isn’t displacing U.S. workers; it’s helping drive our post-Covid recovery and growth. This directly challenges Trump’s zero-sum worldview.

Put it this way: These Republicans and industries are, in a sense, calling Trump’s bluff. Will he actually target those sectors for mass deportations? If he does, we should see a large inflow of U.S. native-born workers into those jobs, right? Will that really take place?

Here’s another possibility: In the end, Trump’s deportation forces may selectively spare certain localities and industries from mass removals. Trump’s incoming “border czar,” Tom Homan, suggests this won’t happen. But a hallmark of MAGA is corruptly selective governance in the interests of MAGA nation and expressly against those who are designated MAGA’s enemies, U.S. citizens included. One can see mass deportations becoming a selective tool, in which blue localities are targeted for high-profile raids—even as Trump triumphantly rants that they are cesspools of “migrant crime” that he is pacifying with military-style force—while GOP-connected industries and Trump-allied Republicans tacitly secure some forbearance.

Indeed, there is historical precedent for something like this. In one infamous 1990s episode, Georgia lawmakers intervened to get immigration authorities to back off deportations during the state’s Vidalia onion harvests. 

It’s easy to imagine a MAGA Georgia Republican like Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, who doesn’t care about actual policy outcomes, quietly making a similar call on behalf of the local gentry. As American Immigration Council senior fellow Aaron Reichlin-Melnick told me: “With enforcement likely to expand dramatically under Trump, we can expect this pressure to come to bear again.”

At the most basic level, Trump-MAGA “American carnage” mythology holds that reversing the elite-engineered energy transition and purging the nation of millions of undesirable migrants are key to rescuing left-behind areas from stagnation—and rebuilding the foundations of virtuous, long-term working-class flourishing. In reality, the green transition and immigration are potential keys to revitalization. It’s striking to see Republicans already more or less confirming this themselves.

 

[G650 14437]

20 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Suddenly, Trump’s Ugliest Threats Are Facing Surprise GOP Resistance

[Willfully Horn 8257]

39 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

https://newrepublic.com/article/189054/trump-immigration-threats-republican-resistance

Suddenly, Trump’s Ugliest Threats Are Facing Surprise GOP Resistance

 

 

 

 

 

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All this directly undercuts one of Trump’s biggest ideas—that government efforts to spur the transition to a sustainable future must by definition existentially threaten the working class, whose well-being depends on tripling down on fossil fuels—and exposes it as the monumental scam that it is.

Something similar is also already happening with Trump’s threat to deport millions of undocumented immigrants. Reuters reports that agriculture interests, which are heavily concentrated in GOP areas, are urging the incoming Trump administration to refrain from removing untold numbers of migrants working throughout the food supply chain, including in farming, dairy, and meatpacking. 

Notably, GOP Representative John Duarte, who just lost his seat in the elections, explicitly tells Reuters that farming interests in his California district depend on undocumented immigrants—and that Trump should exempt many from removal. Duarte and industry representatives want more avenues created for migrants to work here legally—the precise opposite of what Trump promised.

Now over to Texas. NPR reports that various industries there fear that mass deportations could cripple them, particularly in construction, where nearly 300,000 undocumented immigrants toiled as of 2022. Those workers enable the state to keep growing despite a native population that isn’t supplying a large enough workforce. Local analysts and executives want Trump to refrain from removing all these people or create new ways for them to work here legally. Even the Republican mayor of McKinney, Texas, is loudly sounding the alarm.

Meanwhile, back in Georgia, Trump’s threat of mass deportations is awakening new awareness that undocumented immigrants drive industries like construction, landscaping, and agriculture, reports The Wall Street Journal. In Dalton, a town that backed Trump, fear is spreading that removals could “upend its economy and workforce.”

At this point, someone will argue that all this confirms Trump’s arguments—that these industries and their representatives merely fear losing cheap migrant labor that enables them to avoid paying Americans higher wages. When JD Vance and Trump pushed their lie about Haitians eating pets in Springfield, Ohio, Vance insisted that he opposed the Haitian influx into Midwestern towns because they’re undercutting U.S. workers.

But all these disparate examples of Republicans and GOP areas lamenting coming mass deportations suggest an alternate story, one detailed well by the Times’ Lydia DePillis. In the MAGA worldview, a large reserve of untapped native-born Americans in prime working age are languishing in joblessness throughout Trump country—and will stream into all these industries once migrants are removed en masse, boosting wages.  

But DePillis documents that things like poor health and disability are more important drivers of unemployment among this subset of non-college working-age men. Besides, migrants living and working here don’t just perform labor that Americans will not. They also consume and boost demand, creating more jobs.

As Paul Krugman puts it, in all these ways, migrant laborers are “complements” to U.S. workers. Importantly, that’s the argument that these Republicans and industries in GOP areas are really making when they lament mass deportations: Migrant labor isn’t displacing U.S. workers; it’s helping drive our post-Covid recovery and growth. This directly challenges Trump’s zero-sum worldview.

Put it this way: These Republicans and industries are, in a sense, calling Trump’s bluff. Will he actually target those sectors for mass deportations? If he does, we should see a large inflow of U.S. native-born workers into those jobs, right? Will that really take place?

Here’s another possibility: In the end, Trump’s deportation forces may selectively spare certain localities and industries from mass removals. Trump’s incoming “border czar,” Tom Homan, suggests this won’t happen. But a hallmark of MAGA is corruptly selective governance in the interests of MAGA nation and expressly against those who are designated MAGA’s enemies, U.S. citizens included. One can see mass deportations becoming a selective tool, in which blue localities are targeted for high-profile raids—even as Trump triumphantly rants that they are cesspools of “migrant crime” that he is pacifying with military-style force—while GOP-connected industries and Trump-allied Republicans tacitly secure some forbearance.

Indeed, there is historical precedent for something like this. In one infamous 1990s episode, Georgia lawmakers intervened to get immigration authorities to back off deportations during the state’s Vidalia onion harvests. 

It’s easy to imagine a MAGA Georgia Republican like Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, who doesn’t care about actual policy outcomes, quietly making a similar call on behalf of the local gentry. As American Immigration Council senior fellow Aaron Reichlin-Melnick told me: “With enforcement likely to expand dramatically under Trump, we can expect this pressure to come to bear again.”

At the most basic level, Trump-MAGA “American carnage” mythology holds that reversing the elite-engineered energy transition and purging the nation of millions of undesirable migrants are key to rescuing left-behind areas from stagnation—and rebuilding the foundations of virtuous, long-term working-class flourishing. In reality, the green transition and immigration are potential keys to revitalization. It’s striking to see Republicans already more or less confirming this themselves.

 

Well, what a surprise. And it reminds me of the sane-casting we’ve seen recently which says it is Dem’s fault turnip is waiting in the wings, for calling his supporters dumb. Sorry, folks, tautology gonna tautology.

[linux 1784]

I do see economic havoc as the only way people will learn, it needs to be comunicated of course that this is THE president and that we must do what he demands, that their sacrifice is needed.

[Biff Tannen 46150]

3 minutes ago, linux said:

I do see economic havoc as the only way people will learn, it needs to be comunicated of course that this is THE president and that we must do what he demands, that their sacrifice is needed.

This. We should get what we voted for. I’m prepared for the consequences. It won’t be fun, but I don’t see any other way. 

[Sawbonz 28195]

6 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I’m still laughing at “rat-faced hillbilly”. 

Stringy beany little rat-faced girl

[Bozo_Casanova 26841]

7 hours ago, mdmost said:

So Trump said this morning on NBC that he will end birthright citizenship and deport the families of illegals even if they were born here. Not sure how you get around the 14th amendment but he will try. So again, people who were born here to parents who are undocumented and you voted for Trump, how you feeling about that now?

Well, if that’s the plan I can think of a bunch of shiftless white folks I hope we send back to the Scottish lowlands or Acadia or wherever their people snuck in from. 

Edited December 9 by Bozo_Casanova

[Biff Tannen 46150]

2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Well, if that’s the plan I can think of a bunch of shiftless white folks I hope we send back to the Scottish lowlands or Acadia or wherever their people snuck in from. 

Oh. I think he just means brown people. Yep, pretty sure. 

[Horn Dog 10158]

[GenXer 3426]

“I don't like the 'I told you so' from leftists“

Game on. We’re gonna make you choke on that shit.

[Sawbonz 28195]

39 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

Why should I have expected him to do exactly what he said he would do instead of what I wanted done?

[C-Man 27777]

Why should I have expected him to do exactly what he said he would do instead of what I wanted done?

Stupid Americans is kind of redundant at this point

[Hermanator 7653]

1 hour ago, Horn Dog said:

These people did a focus group of trump voters and why they voted that way. 

Americans are ridiculously ignorant and dumb

 

[WhatTheBuck 28928]

On 12/7/2024 at 9:46 PM, Prepuce of Doom said:

This is outstanding. I'm sorry that your ingenuity didn't pay off. 

One of my buddies and I spent much of middle school contemplating how we might be able to fraudulently obtain one of those cable TV unscramblers advertised in the back of magazines in pursuit of the Spice Network and the Playboy Channel.

We never came up with an actionable plan. 

Edit - I confess that I may have misunderstood the purpose of your shenanigans. Thought you were trying to scheme your way into getting porn more than playing pranks on teachers... 

I bought one of those descramblers. I’m pretty sure I just sent a money order. It worked just fine. The Playboy Channel wasn’t carried by our cable provider but HBO, Cinemax (aka Skinemax), and Showtime were. I remember a lot of skin being shown in the 1975 flick Confessions of a Pop Performer when my excitement about the success of my new purchase was tempered by my fear of my mom walking into the room and discovering it.

My big mistake was asking her ahead of time if I could order it. She said no, of course. I ordered it anyway. So when she noticed it, she knew what it was. I never should’ve mentioned it. I should’ve just bought it and attached it and she probably never would’ve even noticed. If she did I could’ve just said it was a signal booster or something and she would’ve bought it.

Live and learn.

[WhatTheBuck 28928]

16 hours ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

His Supreme Court will just rule that the Constitution is unconstitutional

The original authors didn’t really mean what they wrote. 

[TwiceHorn 32071]

8 hours ago, GenXer said:

“I don't like the 'I told you so' from leftists“

Game on. We’re gonna make you choke on that shit.

The fact that the guy used the term "leftists" shows you that he never gave an actual thought to policy but was all-in on the hatefest.

[Dnaguy 12611]

Assuming any one of those are real… big assumption… that #15 guy is something.

Talk about a little bitch.

I bet this guy also wonders why he can’t ever get a date. 

[Captainant 28507]

14 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The fact that the guy used the term "leftists" shows you that he never gave an actual thought to policy but was all-in on the hatefest.

You're describing most of voting base for Republicans. They don't think about policy, they pick the guy they like most - surprise surprise it's the old white racist landlord, not the black prosecutor - and then take policy cues from their chosen avatar. 

They repeat any partisan attack with the full faith of it being 100% true, to the point of completely disassociating from objective reality. It's how they whip themselves up and motivate action, while suppressing enthusiasm from the opposition. 

It's totalitarian politics. 

[mdmost 43940]

17 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Assuming any one of those are real… big assumption… that #15 guy is something.

Talk about a little bitch.

I bet this guy also wonders why he can’t ever get a date. 

Wonder which DT poster that is. 

[wildcat09 29577]

The people thinking that the American public will learn anything when things get bad enough are somehow still too optimistic about the state of things. 

[Aqua Buddha 14803]

22 hours ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

His Supreme Court will just rule that the Constitution is unconstitutional

 

22 hours ago, mdmost said:

So Trump said this morning on NBC that he will end birthright citizenship and deport the families of illegals even if they were born here. Not sure how you get around the 14th amendment but he will try. So again, people who were born here to parents who are undocumented and you voted for Trump, how you feeling about that now?

I've been told that the Constitution is chiseled in stone.  If a Dem president came in and wanted to suspend the second amendment through executive actions, the R's would be screaming about a civil war.  Trump wants to suspend the 14th and it's, oh well.  There are at least two SC justices that will rule that the president has the right to suspend and amendment.  

[Brisketexan 106874]

I've been told that the Constitution is chiseled in stone.  If a Dem president came in and wanted to suspend the second amendment through executive actions, the R's would be screaming about a civil war.  Trump wants to suspend the 14th and it's, oh well.  There are at least two SC justices that will rule that the president has the right to suspend and amendment.  

Actually, their pitch is that it actually wasn’t properly ratified so it isn’t actually an amendment.
You think I’m kidding.
I’m not.

[Longhorn94 2501]

I mean everyone knows that some of the amendments count and others don't. I mean you have the second amendment - that one for sure counts. And then you have uh well, uhhhh hmmmm yeah I'm not sure the rest really count or mean what you think they say...

Edited December 9 by Longhorn94

[Goredho 17649]

3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

The fact that the guy used the term "leftists" shows you that he never gave an actual thought to policy but was all-in on the hatefest.

You think an intardnet meme with quotes from "Anonymous in Georgia" is legitimate and reflective of reality?  I mean, it might be.  It also might be bullshit propaganda meant to tweak your brain and keep you involved as a participant in the strife.  The left isn't above that, as evidenced by the dark Biden memes when he was really just a drooling octogenarian who should have been put in memory care a long time ago.  Or all the Kamala hopium being pumped into the infosphere that obfuscated the real feelings of voters before the election.  And there are other actors who don't care about the ideological battle in the US or who wins.  They just want the battle, and they want it to be BIG.

Everyone needs a higher bar for the 3rd hand+ information they allow to carry weight in their brains.

[The Dog 44854]

r/Leopardsatemyface is going to really take off in January, but here are some more bits:

 

[softlynow 1894]

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

The people thinking that the American public will learn anything when things get bad enough are somehow still too optimistic about the state of things. 

Correct. The oligarchy is well-positioned to tell the people who really set the leopards loose on them. It will not be Trump's fault. His position will only be strengthened by calamity.

[Nivek 17405]

11 hours ago, Hermanator said:

These people did a focus group of trump voters and why they voted that way. 

Americans are ridiculously ignorant and dumb

 

This was like watching Bill Burr be a guest on Maher or Rogan.  

[Nivek 17405]

5 minutes ago, softlynow said:

Correct. The oligarchy is well-positioned to tell the people who really set the leopards loose on them. It will not be Trump's fault. His position will only be strengthened by calamity.

The issue is that the oligarchy is well-positioned if the Democratic Party were to remain in power and if they do return to power in the next presidential election cycle, they will be grateful for the support of the oligarchs.  

Edited December 9 by Nivek

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13624]

2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

The people thinking that the American public will learn anything when things get bad enough are somehow still too optimistic about the state of things. 

In 2028, I Hate Leftists Saying I Told You So Guy will cite leftist telling him "I told you so" as the main reason he voted for Trump.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13725]

I know many innocent or naive people will be hurt, but I don't have any sympathy for a Trump voter who is harmed by Trump's policies. If you voted for him after hearing him say that he would take away your livelihood or that he would deport your relatives, not sorry about the consequences.

[Longhorn94 2501]

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I know many innocent or naive people will be hurt, but I don't have any sympathy for a Trump voter who is harmed by Trump's policies. If you voted for him after hearing him say that he would take away your livelihood or that he would deport your relatives, not sorry about the consequences.

but what you don't understand is they didn't think he would really do those things! they thought he was just joshin about all of that!

[Nice Guy Eddie 13725]

2 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

but what you don't understand is they didn't think he would really do those things! they thought he was just joshin about all of that!

They thought he was only going to punish CA or NY.

Everyone loves to complain about govt waste but 99% of that "waste" goes into the pockets of everyday Americans. Wasting money with Ukrainian war has put billions into American defense contractors who hire everyday people. Now we divert that waste into state unemployment benefits.

[Longhorn94 2501]

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

They thought he was only going to punish CA or NY.

Everyone loves to complain about govt waste but 99% of that "waste" goes into the pockets of everyday Americans. Wasting money with Ukrainian war has put billions into American defense contractors who hire everyday people. Now we divert that waste into state unemployment benefits.

well yeah... of course.

[Biff Tannen 46150]

Had a call this morning with a client that was perfectly pleasant for about 20 minutes and then he tells me he thinks business is going to be down next year because all of the crying liberals aren't going to spend their money.  Magats just can't help themselves.

[Captainant 28507]

27 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Had a call this morning with a client that was perfectly pleasant for about 20 minutes and then he tells me he thinks business is going to be down next year because all of the crying liberals aren't going to spend their money.  Magats just can't help themselves.

Lmao ALWAYS a victim, the poor wuddle babies

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13624]

That's why we had taxpayers bailout farmers in Trump's first term. Libs were so mad at Trump's trade war with China they stopped eating food.