The Leopards Eating Faces and Unlubed Dildo of Consequences Thread

[Longhorn_Fan68 34101]

3 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

That's why we had taxpayers bailout farmers in Trump's first term. Libs were so mad at Trump's trade war with China they stopped eating food.

oh dang, I didn't know we beat obesity. go us!

[WhatTheBuck 28928]

4 hours ago, Longhorn94 said:

you have the second amendment - that one for sure counts

Just not as written. 

[Longhorn94 2501]

22 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Just not as written. 

of course not. the only time we interpret the Constitution literally is when it's good for us. come on, man the Scalia out front should have told ya.

[The Dog 44853]

 

[Gatorubet 30710]

26 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

It’s just like Animal Farm. Citizens United revisit gonna hold, “Some non-human entities are more equal than others. “

[Gatorubet 30710]

kj

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"We're serious about removing the pedophiles from the government, and just because the pedophiles have all turned out to be Republicans doesn't mean we'll give up," said Q.

[Willfully Horn 8257]

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

and just because the pedophiles have all turned out to be Republicans

Q is smarter than @Incredulity. I’m not surprised.

[Incredulity 11874]

I’m not going to sleep with. Fucking weirdo

[wood 11763]

wrong thread ...

Edited December 10 by wood

[Planet Houston 4950]

6 hours ago, Captainant said:

Lmao ALWAYS a victim, the poor wuddle babies

Exhibit A? Kirby Smart. 🖕

[Francisco 2.0 32585]

 

[BevoAbyss 2180]

Don't overlook the First Amendment for some long-term dildos of consequences.

That first line -- Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion -- the Establishment Clause which multitudes of Christians ignore in their yearning for a theocracy and smashing down the wall between Church and State. 

-- The Christians will find out that once the State and Church start merging and the wall crumbles, all the little churches will be shut down or completely marginalized. Whilehe biggest and most powerful churches, religions, and denominations will vie to control the ONE TRUE RELIGION for Christian America.

-- Just like centuries of religious warfare, religious thoughtcrimes will be invented and persecutions and torture will explode. Megachurch Christians v. Tinychurch Christians, Catholics v. Baptists, etc. History has shown that blood will flow. Religious warfare in America will prove no exception. 

They have no clue how the First Amendment and Establishment Clause kept the religious peace in a secular democracy. That will be gone.

Edited December 10 by BevoAbyss

[Jhawkmvp 1514]

22 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Sadly, as always, this meme...

[TwiceHorn 32071]

48 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Ackshually, non-birthright citizenship only requires one US citizen parent.  Depending on how retrograde you want to go, it's only a US-citizen father.

Well, wait.  When I think of birthright citizenship, I think of "jus soli," being born here without regard to nationality of parents.

But, it is also used to mean non-naturalized citizen.  I think Trump means jus soli citizenship.

Edited December 10 by TwiceHorn

[DigglerontheHoof 21548]

8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Ackshually, non-birthright citizenship only requires one US citizen parent.  Depending on how retrograde you want to go, it's only a US-citizen father.

Well, wait.  When I think of birthright citizenship, I think of "jus soli," being born here without regard to nationality of parents.

But, it is also used to mean non-naturalized citizen.  I think Trump means jus soli citizenship.

You think Trump has spent (or is even capable of spending) that much thought on it?  Or that he even understands the difference?

[Pescado_Rojo 19583]

1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

You think Trump has spent (or is even capable of spending) that much thought on it?  Or that he even understands the difference?

Trump thinks he met Jus Soli at Studio54 back in the 80s.

[The Dog 44853]

 

[Sawbonz 28193]

That’s actually a reasonable stance 

[Biff Tannen 46150]

13 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

That’s actually a reasonable stance 

He actually has SOME reasonable stances. He’s also a god damn lunatic on other things. Like vaccines.  

[linux 1784]

Corn Syrup epidemic is weird because in theory it is good policy but in practice it is not (people would just switch back to real sugar?)

In essence

Obesity epidemic greatest health risk in the entire country, above cancer I think, only way to fix it is having people diet, they won't.

Vaccinated diseases limited exposure, some extinct and threatened to come back, solution is dirt simple a jab.

 

In short he is still a disaster pick but the political fallout is what I am here for, let them fight!

[DDD Dad 14643]

19 minutes ago, linux said:

Corn Syrup epidemic is weird because in theory it is good policy but in practice it is not (people would just switch back to real sugar?)

In essence

Obesity epidemic greatest health risk in the entire country, above cancer I think, only way to fix it is having people diet, they won't.

Vaccinated diseases limited exposure, some extinct and threatened to come back, solution is dirt simple a jab.

 

In short he is still a disaster pick but the political fallout is what I am here for, let them fight!

I would have to think even switching to real sugar would be better than HFCS. That shit is nasty. 
 

Also, think about how many lives could be saved and reduction in stress on healthcare costs and system if we made ozempic etc. widely available at no or low cost? I wouldn’t be surprised if the savings would vastly exceed the cost to do so. 

Edited December 11 by DDD Dad

[linux 1784]

8 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

I would have to think even switching to real sugar would be better than HFCS. That shit is nasty. 
 

Also, think about how many lives could be saved and reduction in stress on healthcare costs and system if we made ozempic etc. widely available at no or low cost? I wouldn’t be surprised if the savings would vastly exceed the cost to do so. 

Yeah I was just having this discussion that Ozempic/Wegovi was like $1000+ a month because insurance was not covering it, I would pay $1000 to lose weight but others would not.

[tx 3 putt 78668]

On 12/9/2024 at 8:16 PM, BevoAbyss said:

Don't overlook the First Amendment for some long-term dildos of consequences.

That first line -- Congress shall make no law 

-- The Christians will find out that once the State and Church start merging and the wall crumbles, all the little churches will be shut down or completely marginalized. Whilehe biggest and most powerful churches, religions, and denominations will vie to control the ONE TRUE RELIGION for Christian America.

 

congress shall pass no law …. 

a trump executive order is not congress 

Edited December 11 by tx 3 putt

[Sawbonz 28193]

Fructose really fucks with insulin regulation of blood glucose levels 

 

it’s really bad for you

[Chad Fuck 18134]

 
congress shall pass no law …. 
a trump executive order is not congress 

Yes but what happens when the Executive branch decides not to listen to the Legislative or Judicial?

There are going to be half a dozen Constitutional crises in the next four years for this very reason.

[G650 14437]

9 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

ozempic

Heaven forbid anyone just eat well and exercise.

[Hefeweizen 5443]

12 minutes ago, G650 said:

Heaven forbid anyone just eat well and exercise.

Need Ozempic in a drip mounted to a rascal scooter.  Then you’re all set for the buffet night out at the Golden Corral!

[DDD Dad 14643]

49 minutes ago, G650 said:

Heaven forbid anyone just eat well and exercise.

 

35 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Need Ozempic in a drip mounted to a rascal scooter.  Then you’re all set for the buffet night out at the Golden Corral!

Here’s a thought. Maybe don’t view obesity as a failure of will but instead a disease that could be treated and cured. 
 Then those “fatties” wouldn’t need a rascal and you wouldn’t be using up precious healthcare resources to deal with the complications that come with the condition. 
 

[G650 14437]

5 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Maybe don’t view obesity as a failure of will but instead a disease that could be treated and cured. 

 

I have family and acquaintances that suffer from true obesity. They are also a microscopic percentage of the population.

 

ETA: I view our mass obesity as a failure of our food distribution system and general culture btw, not personal will.

Edited December 11 by G650

[YChang 3566]

The funny thing is IF drugs like ozempic was cheaper for those people… especially those truly struggling and not just making poor lifestyle choices it actually would have the virtuous effect of healthy eating. Apparently the junk food and fast food industry is worried about the side effects of ozempic and wegovy because many no longer have the cravings for those type of foods. 
 

it’s a fascinating topic… we have so many tools at our disposal. But culturally the use of some raise issues as personal failures and others don’t. 

Edited December 11 by YChang

[Nivek 17404]

55 minutes ago, G650 said:

Heaven forbid anyone just eat well and exercise.

Bumper sticker solutions get bumper sticker results.   We have a systemic issues in this country as we have moved to needing convenience due to time constraints and the options are often bastardized and addictive.   It is easy to blame society and individuals when you ignore or do not seek out data to inform yourself.   See an example chart below.   What happened?  (source: https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity )

 

 

[Hefeweizen 5443]

1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

 

Here’s a thought. Maybe don’t view obesity as a failure of will but instead a disease that could be treated and cured. 
 Then those “fatties” wouldn’t need a rascal and you wouldn’t be using up precious healthcare resources to deal with the complications that come with the condition. 
 

Explain why the US is unique in its fatness around the world?

[Snake Diggity 4714]

Anecdotally the people I’ve seen who get on Ozempic and other drugs like it end up eating healthier because it eliminated cravings, which is the condition where most junk foods get eaten.  I do think there’s some big potential downsides to those drugs (mainly that they reduce people’s incentives to exercise), but I do think they could be a key part of addressing the obesity epidemic.

[Captainant 28506]

5 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

Anecdotally the people I’ve seen who get on Ozempic and other drugs like it end up eating healthier because it eliminated cravings, which is the condition where most junk foods get eaten.  I do think there’s some big potential downsides to those drugs (mainly that they reduce people’s incentives to exercise), but I do think they could be a key part of addressing the obesity epidemic.

The obesity epidemic is largely driven by the crappy food options around the country. When all there is to eat is ultraprocessed shit, you're wayyyyy more likely to have wacked out cravings that lead to obesity. 

[mdmost 43940]

Wasn't the switch to High Fructose Corn Syrup more about saving companies money on the cost of sugar and nothing to do with making things taste better?

[YChang 3566]

13 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Explain why the US is unique in its fatness around the world?

Sadly it's not anymore... you're starting to see it creep up in other industrialized nations as well. I do think other nations especially Europe/Asia living in more dense cities where dependence on driving is not nearly as high and walking/public transit can get you around helps curb some of its impact. But holy crap after coming back from Japan/Taiwan recently... the amount of unhealthy fried food and junk food readily available everywhere was eye opening. 

[Pato del Muerto 53445]

9 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Wasn't the switch to High Fructose Corn Syrup more about saving companies money on the cost of sugar and nothing to do with making things taste better?

Probably more about using a crop we can grow in abundance here.  We are very good at finding alternative uses for corn. 

[Incredulity 11874]

1 hour ago, G650 said:

I view our mass obesity as a failure of our food distribution system and general culture btw, not personal will.

It actually a success of our(free market capitalism) food production and distribution system.  For the first time in human history food is so abundant and cheap the poor can get fat as fuck.

[Sawbonz 28193]

1 hour ago, G650 said:

They are also a microscopic percentage of the population

No they aren't. If you are interested in discussing in depth start a thread in DT and I will post some thoughts when I have some time  

And hopefully posters who know a lot more than I about it will contribute 

 

[G650 14437]

7 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

It actually a success of our(free market capitalism) food production and distribution system.  For the first time in human history food is so abundant and cheap the poor can get fat as fuck.

 

Interesting way to define success.

 

Had nothing to do with the free market though, we subsidized the shit out of it to the point of making the calories per dollar ration laughable.

[G650 14437]

Just now, Sawbonz said:

No they aren't. If you are interested in discussing in depth start a thread in DT and I will post some thoughts when I have some time  

And hopefully posters who know a lot more than I about it will contribute 

 

I mean, you can post here, knock yourself out. Genetic obesity is not a common malady. Lifestyle induced obesity is rampant.

[Parliament 14593]

Corn syrup also tastes better.  Fight me.

I work in agriculture and all of us over here are very distrustful when a rich cityboy starts telling us how to do things.  But year.  Sugar is bad.  It's heavily subsidized.  If RFK bumble stumbles into doing something right, I'm on board with that.

Sugar should not be regulated, but for God's sake let's not drive down its cost with subsides.  dumb.

[G650 14437]

Just now, Parliament said:

 

I work in agriculture and all of us over here are very distrustful when a rich cityboy starts telling us how to do things.  But year.  Sugar is bad.  It's heavily subsidized.  If RFK bumble stumbles into doing something right, I'm on board with that.

Sugar should not be regulated, but for God's sake let's not drive down its cost with subsides.  dumb.

Precisely

[Incredulity 11874]

1 minute ago, G650 said:

Interesting way to define success.

not really.  you go describe the abundance we have to people in the early 1900's and see if they would sign up for it.

Agreed we have a massive knock on effect.

 

Also, we have the effects of eliminating ubiquitous smoking.  Which of course is increased appetite.

 

abundance, societal changes(decrease in physical labor jobs, smoking)

 

There is no free lunch.  pun intended.

[Sawbonz 28193]

6 minutes ago, G650 said:

I mean, you can post here, knock yourself out. Genetic obesity is not a common malady. Lifestyle induced obesity is rampant.

That is a false dilemma. like I said start a thread if you want to learn something. 

[Captainant 28506]

8 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Sugar should not be regulated, but for God's sake let's not drive down its cost with subsides.  dumb.

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE MASSIVE CORPORATE FARM SUBSIDIES???

[Longhorn_Fan68 34101]

2 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

That is a false dilemma. like I said start a thread if you want to learn something. 

this whole forum, nay our whole political system, is a false dilemma. we're pretty terrible at actually addressing problems. we're world class at attacking strawmen

[G650 14437]

5 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

That is a false dilemma. like I said start a thread if you want to learn something. 

lol.

[elfenix 34743]

40 minutes ago, Captainant said:

When all there is to eat is ultraprocessed shit, you're wayyyyy more likely to have wacked out cravings that lead to obesity. 

i remember when michelle obama suggested ketchup shouldn't be considered a vegetable and conservatives lost their fucking minds. meanwhile someone with actual brainworms says the same thing and they all agree with it.

[G650 14437]

7 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

not really.  you go describe the abundance we have to people in the early 1900's and see if they would sign up for it.

Agreed we have a massive knock on effect.

 

Also, we have the effects of eliminating ubiquitous smoking.  Which of course is increased appetite.

 

abundance, societal changes(decrease in physical labor jobs, smoking)

 

There is no free lunch.  pun intended.

I mean, I've said for 20 years food should be more expensive, not less, so we are not going to agree on this.