The Leopards Eating Faces and Unlubed Dildo of Consequences Thread

[Longhorn_Fan68 34,070]

2 minutes ago, elfenix said:

i remember when michelle obama suggested ketchup shouldn't be considered a vegetable and conservatives lost their fucking minds. meanwhile someone with actual brainworms says the same thing and they all agree with it.

i think you're smart enough to understand why there were different reactions

[Captainant 28,319]

3 minutes ago, elfenix said:

i remember when michelle obama suggested ketchup shouldn't be considered a vegetable and conservatives lost their fucking minds. meanwhile someone with actual brainworms says the same thing and they all agree with it.

It's the difference in messenger. Uppity blek wimmenz? DEY TOOK UR FURDS! Legacy old white dude? What brain worms?

[Parliament 14,534]

5 minutes ago, G650 said:

I mean, I've said for 20 years junk food should be more expensive, not less, so we are not going to agree on this.

Let's separate bananas from cheetos in this conversation.

[G650 14,417]

2 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Let's separate bananas from cheetos in this conversation.

No, I mean all of it. I also support things like UBI and strong social nets so I'm not talking about making anyone go hungry. But the cost of food has become so divorced from the cost of it's production it's distorted society as a whole.

[Pasken 1,310]

12 hours ago, linux said:

Corn Syrup epidemic is weird because in theory it is good policy but in practice it is not (people would just switch back to real sugar?)

In essence

Obesity epidemic greatest health risk in the entire country, above cancer I think, only way to fix it is having people diet, they won't.

Vaccinated diseases limited exposure, some extinct and threatened to come back, solution is dirt simple a jab.

 

In short he is still a disaster pick but the political fallout is what I am here for, let them fight!

Real sugar acts as an appetite suppressant so you might see people actually consuming less calories due to reduced hunger as their digestive system processes the cane sugar. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,656]

36 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

Interesting way to define success.

 

Had nothing to do with the free market though, we subsidized the shit out of it to the point of making the calories per dollar ration laughable.

Are there really many Americans that go hungry these days? Genuinely asking. I know it's not zero but I have to guess that even the extreme poor have access to food, if they pursue it. Not talking about healthy food but calories to get them through the day. I could see that someone with mental or physical illness going without just because of the challenges of their diseases.

 

[hookemATL 12,220]

2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Are there really many Americans that go hungry these days?

 

[linux 1,753]

This is a really good video with the most up to date science that probably needs to be universal knowledge, the gist of it is that in the medium to long term the body will consume the same amount of calories despite work out routines (or around a 5-10% difference at most) your weight gain/loss is entirely dependent on your calories in, and your calories out entirely dependent on your body composition not time spent excercising.

Anecdotally it also tracks I lost dozens of pounds while doing less excercise, it was all 100% calorie tracking. Once the six pack shows up I will go back to lifting but will never do cardio for weight loss ever again.

Hopefully HFCS ban does really force dietary changes.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,656]

Corn lobby is too strong for us to ban hfcs or even raise taxes on it. And I assume the sugar industry is no where in position to take over from hfcs.

RFK Jr. may talk a big game about bans but he has to answer to Trump. Trump won’t let it happen. 

[Aqua Buddha 14,764]

Wonder what the "RELIGIOUS LIBERTY!!!!" crowd will say about this.  Prolly nothing:

 

The incoming Trump administration intends to rescind a long-standing policy that has prevented Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents from arresting immigrants at or near so-called sensitive locations, such as houses of worship, schools and hospitals or events like funerals, weddings and public demonstrations without approval from supervisors, according to three sources familiar with the plan. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/trump-scrap-restriction-ice-arrests-churches-schools-rcna183688

[CTC2 2,852]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Are there really many Americans that go hungry these days? Genuinely asking. I know it's not zero but I have to guess that even the extreme poor have access to food, if they pursue it. Not talking about healthy food but calories to get them through the day. I could see that someone with mental or physical illness going without just because of the challenges of their diseases.

 

Let me assure you, there are. Try volunteering at your local food bank and see all the people that go underserved by charities. 

[royiv 9,624]

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Are there really many Americans that go hungry these days? Genuinely asking. I know it's not zero but I have to guess that even the extreme poor have access to food, if they pursue it. Not talking about healthy food but calories to get them through the day. I could see that someone with mental or physical illness going without just because of the challenges of their diseases.

 

Yes. Food insecurity is still a large problem in this country. One thing we could do to address this is to provide free breakfast and lunch to all children, regardless of family income, in all public schools. It’s a relatively cheap thing to do that would have a big societal ROI, but socialism, pull yourself up by the bootstraps and all that jazz.

[TexasEd 8,241]

3 hours ago, Nivek said:

Bumper sticker solutions get bumper sticker results.   We have a systemic issues in this country as we have moved to needing convenience due to time constraints and the options are often bastardized and addictive.   It is easy to blame society and individuals when you ignore or do not seek out data to inform yourself.   See an example chart below.   What happened?  (source: https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity )

 

 

 

[Nivek 17,322]

35 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

Let me assure you, there are. Try volunteering at your local food bank and see all the people that go underserved by charities. 

What and not go to Vegas to do lines off of a stripper's ass? /Wounded Warrior Project CEO et al.  (Probably)

Edited Wednesday at 06:37 PM by Nivek

[Brisketexan 106,430]

1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Wonder what the "RELIGIOUS LIBERTY!!!!" crowd will say about this.  Prolly nothing:

 

The incoming Trump administration intends to rescind a long-standing policy that has prevented Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents from arresting immigrants at or near so-called sensitive locations, such as houses of worship, schools and hospitals or events like funerals, weddings and public demonstrations without approval from supervisors, according to three sources familiar with the plan. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/trump-scrap-restriction-ice-arrests-churches-schools-rcna183688

Yeah.  If anyone wants to know how this goes, check out our own AG, darling of the Religious Right and the "MUH RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES!" crowd (when it comes to the deeply held religious belief of "God commands me to be a total dick to all the people I hate").  You know, the AG who in the past months has sued more churches and religious institutions than our last 10 AGs combined.  He just sues them for doing things like feeding the homeless and providing shelter to immigrants (who, by the way, are sent there BY government officials).

"Religious Liberty" is but one of the massive lies they've told.  They only mean it for THEIR beliefs (you know, the caustic and cruel ones), not any others.

[LCHorn 2,749]

27 minutes ago, Nivek said:

What and not go to Vegas to do lines off of a stripper's ass? /Wounded Warrior Project CEO et al.  (Probably)

Lest this become a thing, there’s no connection to the Wounded Warrior Project and Hegseth.  Probably we can dig up some controversy on the former but I’ve also seen lots of actual charity from their fundraising for San Antonio veterans receiving treatment at BAMC.  
 

It’s pretty sad that a multiple amputee needs to have a charitable organization pay for remodeling his house so that he can move about in a wheel chair, rather than VA money, but that’s the reality.  

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 34,070]

guess this goes here?

 

[Ojo Rojo 2,034]

3 hours ago, Incredulity said:

It actually a success of our(free market capitalism) food production and distribution system.  For the first time in human history food is so abundant and cheap the poor can get fat as fuck.

This + expert marketing.  The people doing the marketing are way, way smarter than the people buying shit food.

[Aqua Buddha 14,764]

16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah.  If anyone wants to know how this goes, check out our own AG, darling of the Religious Right and the "MUH RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES!" crowd (when it comes to the deeply held religious belief of "God commands me to be a total dick to all the people I hate").  You know, the AG who in the past months has sued more churches and religious institutions than our last 10 AGs combined.  He just sues them for doing things like feeding the homeless and providing shelter to immigrants (who, by the way, are sent there BY government officials).

"Religious Liberty" is but one of the massive lies they've told.  They only mean it for THEIR beliefs (you know, the caustic and cruel ones), not any others.

Harris not going to the Al Smith dinner = Dems hate Catholics

Trump using the military to storm Catholic churches = oh well

[safe sex 11,908]

4 hours ago, Pasken said:

Real sugar acts as an appetite suppressant so you might see people actually consuming less calories due to reduced hunger as their digestive system processes the cane sugar. 

Can you expound on your first sentence?

[High Plains Drifter 11,152]

5 hours ago, G650 said:

I mean, I've said for 20 years food should be more expensive, not less, so we are not going to agree on this.

 

It should cost what the free market dictates it costs. Except we don't have a free market. Which means it would be more expensive, so I guess we agree. 

 

[G650 14,417]

1 minute ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

It should cost what the free market dictates it costs. Except we don't have a free market. Which means it would be more expensive, so I guess we agree. 

 

[workswithseed 2,200]

5 hours ago, G650 said:

No, I mean all of it. I also support things like UBI and strong social nets so I'm not talking about making anyone go hungry. But the cost of food has become so divorced from the cost of it's production it's distorted society as a whole.

I want more expensive food, but also subsidize people to eat it, this is dumb. 

Either chose one or the other.

[Slacks 6,997]

On 12/8/2024 at 10:52 AM, mdmost said:

So Trump said this morning on NBC that he will end birthright citizenship and deport the families of illegals even if they were born here. Not sure how you get around the 14th amendment but he will try. So again, people who were born here to parents who are undocumented and you voted for Trump, how you feeling about that now?

How far back are we taking this? I have my eye on some land.

[royiv 9,624]

16 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

I want more expensive food, but also subsidize people to eat it, this is dumb. 

Either chose one or the other.

You can’t be this dumb. Farmers are highly subsidized. His argument is to let market forces dictate the cost of food and move the money from farmers to consumers. Just as you say to choose one or the other, he has. 

[workswithseed 2,200]

1 minute ago, royiv said:

You can’t be this dumb. Farmers are highly subsidized. His argument is to let market forces dictate the cost of food and move the money from farmers to consumers. Just as you say to choose one or the other, he has. 

Then subsidized the people with UabI. I think you're missing that part.

[safe sex 11,908]

3 minutes ago, royiv said:

You can’t be this dumb.

I hate to break it to you, but...

[G650 14,417]

23 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

I want more expensive food, but also subsidize people to eat it, this is dumb. 

Either chose one or the other.

I know thinking isn't your strong suit, but maybe ponder what I said and look at you are saying here, which isn't the same thing.

[TexArcher 38,803]

12 minutes ago, royiv said:

You can’t be this dumb.

Over half of this country just voted for a con man rapist who told them to their faces that he would become a fascist dictator on Day 1.

Most of those same people ignored the world's most renowned immunologist during a pandemic because they thought their veterinarians had better intel on how to proceed.

So, yeah, he definitely can be that dumb.

And he's probably just getting warmed up.

 

Edited Wednesday at 09:43 PM by TexArcher

[Nivek 17,322]

2 hours ago, LCHorn said:

Lest this become a thing, there’s no connection to the Wounded Warrior Project and Hegseth.  Probably we can dig up some controversy on the former but I’ve also seen lots of actual charity from their fundraising for San Antonio veterans receiving treatment at BAMC.  
 

It’s pretty sad that a multiple amputee needs to have a charitable organization pay for remodeling his house so that he can move about in a wheel chair, rather than VA money, but that’s the reality.  

 

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/08/09/after-public-crisis-and-fall-grace-wounded-warrior-project-quietly-regains-ground.html

 

[workswithseed 2,200]

8 minutes ago, safe sex said:

I hate to break it to you, but...

Okay, so I stop giving my dollar to store so  grandma can get it cheaper, I give it to grandma instead. I hope your name is true. I don't want you to reproduce.

[TwiceHorn 31,943]

1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

Over half of this country just voted for a con man rapist who told them to their faces that he would become a fascist dictator on Day 1.

That same half ignored the world's most renowned immunologist during a pandemic because they thought their veterinarians had better intel on how to proceed.

Yeah, he definitely can be that dumb.

And he's just getting warmed up.

 

Not even veterinarians.  Some random-ass dude on the internet.

I don't think many vets were promoting ivermectin for human COVID.

[workswithseed 2,200]

2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Over half of this country just voted for a con man rapist who told them to their faces that he would become a fascist dictator on Day 1.

Most of those same people ignored the world's most renowned immunologist during a pandemic because they thought their veterinarians had better intel on how to proceed.

So, yeah, he definitely can be that dumb.

And he's probably just getting warmed up.

 

I didn't vote, but keep this strawman of me up. 

[SubliminalHorn 6,991]

5 hours ago, linux said:

This is a really good video with the most up to date science that probably needs to be universal knowledge, the gist of it is that in the medium to long term the body will consume the same amount of calories despite work out routines (or around a 5-10% difference at most) your weight gain/loss is entirely dependent on your calories in, and your calories out entirely dependent on your body composition not time spent excercising.

Anecdotally it also tracks I lost dozens of pounds while doing less excercise, it was all 100% calorie tracking. Once the six pack shows up I will go back to lifting but will never do cardio for weight loss ever again.

Hopefully HFCS ban does really force dietary changes.

Why wait to lift weights? Doesn’t make much sense 

[Bullneck 19,432]

21 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Okay, so I stop giving my dollar to store so  grandma can get it cheaper, I give it to grandma instead. I hope your name is true. I don't want you to reproduce.

You have no business posting here.

[SubliminalHorn 6,991]

24 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Okay, so I stop giving my dollar to store so  grandma can get it cheaper, I give it to grandma instead. I hope your name is true. I don't want you to reproduce.

Wat

[workswithseed 2,200]

Just now, Bullneck said:

You have no business posting here.

Either you're too dumb to actually refute, or you actually have nothing so you have to ad hom. I'm thinking the second one.

[workswithseed 2,200]

1 minute ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Wat

Wat?

[G650 14,417]

Just now, workswithseed said:

Either you're too dumb to actually refute, or you actually have nothing so you have to ad hom. I'm thinking the second one.

Man, I was going to point out what you are missing, but at some point it's just too wearying to wade through the blatant logical failures. Like I said before, read what I wrote and then read what you wrote, it isn't the same thing.

[mdmost 43,809]

50 minutes ago, Slacks said:

How far back are we taking this? I have my eye on some land.

[linux 1,753]

6 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Why wait to lift weights? Doesn’t make much sense 

I have struggled with it for the better part of a decade and a half (lifting and attempts at dieting got me nowhere), I lift and don't lose the gut, I stop lifting and just count calories and it starts to go away after a few months of dieting. 

At this point I am just resigned to it, that is how my mind (because of cravings reduction) and body works  and that is all she wrote.

[TexArcher 38,803]

33 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

I didn't vote, but keep this strawman of me up. 

Okay, so you're not that kind of stupid, but the other kind.  Noted.

[workswithseed 2,200]

Just now, G650 said:

Man, I was going to point out what you are missing, but at some point it's just too wearying to wade through the blatant logical failures. Like I said before, read what I wrote and then read what you wrote, it isn't the same thing.

Instead of giving money to the farmers to lower prices, you give it to people directly.  The groceries will go up, but people given money directly will still be able to get it because they're given money directly from the govt. You're just moving the money around, you haven't made it where people think about what they're about to buy.

This is better than ad hom ad astra. 

[DDD Dad 14,563]

6 hours ago, G650 said:

I mean, you can post here, knock yourself out. Genetic obesity is not a common malady. Lifestyle induced obesity is rampant.

What difference does it make whether it's genetic or lifestyle?  The impact on the healthcare system is the same.  The results to the obese are the same.  It's still a disease.  We should look at it like any other disease.

[workswithseed 2,200]

3 minutes ago, linux said:

I have struggled with it for the better part of a decade and a half (lifting and attempts at dieting got me nowhere), I lift and don't lose the gut, I stop lifting and just count calories and it starts to go away after a few months of dieting. 

At this point I am just resigned to it, that is how my mind (because of cravings reduction) and body works  and that is all she wrote.

Lifting weights is still good to do.

https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2020/02/11/strength-training-can-help-protect-the-brain-from-degeneration.html#:~:text=Researchers have found that six,up to one year later.

[linux 1,753]

1 minute ago, workswithseed said:

Lifting weights is still good to do.

https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2020/02/11/strength-training-can-help-protect-the-brain-from-degeneration.html#:~:text=Researchers have found that six,up to one year later.

I know I am not quitting permanently just got fed up with the psychology of it, I will return to them in a few months.

[DDD Dad 14,563]

5 hours ago, linux said:

This is a really good video with the most up to date science that probably needs to be universal knowledge, the gist of it is that in the medium to long term the body will consume the same amount of calories despite work out routines (or around a 5-10% difference at most) your weight gain/loss is entirely dependent on your calories in, and your calories out entirely dependent on your body composition not time spent excercising.

Anecdotally it also tracks I lost dozens of pounds while doing less excercise, it was all 100% calorie tracking. Once the six pack shows up I will go back to lifting but will never do cardio for weight loss ever again.

Hopefully HFCS ban does really force dietary changes.

You can't out exercise a bad diet.

[Dnaguy 12,551]

 

6 hours ago, G650 said:

I mean, I've said for 20 years food should be more expensive, not less, so we are not going to agree on this.

Food got 20% more expensive over the last 4 years and the American people voted for a fascist because of it.

People equate freedom with the amount of stuff they can afford to consume. If trump or RFK fucks with that then they’re playing with fire.

However, if there’s one man that can avoid any consequences for his actions … it’s Trump.🤷🏼‍♂️

Edited Wednesday at 10:30 PM by Dnaguy

[G650 14,417]

8 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Instead of giving money to the farmers to lower prices, you give it to people directly.  The groceries will go up, but people given money directly will still be able to get it because they're given money directly from the govt. You're just moving the money around, you haven't made it where people think about what they're about to buy.

This is better than ad hom ad astra. 

Sigh.

[G650 14,417]

6 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

What difference does it make whether it's genetic or lifestyle?  The impact on the healthcare system is the same.  The results to the obese are the same.  It's still a disease.  We should look at it like any other disease.

 

Because the best practice remediation is not the same.

 

1 minute ago, Dnaguy said:

 

 

People equate freedom with the amount of stuff they can afford to consume.

 

Yes.