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  On 12/17/2024 at 2:58 PM, Brisketexan said:

You just insulted Chamberlain.  That was a heavy lift, but you managed to do it.  Neville had much more admirable intent and awareness of what was actually happening.

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This is the conclusion of a note from General Ismay to the British Cabinet sent on 20th September 1938, marked ‘Secret’. Ismay was Secretary of the Committee of Imperial Defense.

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15.  The broad conclusions of this Note may be summarized as follows :-

(a) A German absorption of Czechoslovakia will enhance her military prestige, increase her war potential and probably enable her to dispose of stronger land forces against France and ourselves than she can do at present.

(b) So far as air power is concerned, Germany may be able to maintain her lead over the Franco-British Air Forces in air striking power.  On the other hand, it is open to us, provided that we make the necessary effort, to catch her up, or at least greatly reduce her lead, in the matter of defence (both active and passive) against air attack.  By so doing we shall have heavily insured ourselves against the greatest danger to which we are present exposed: indeed by substantially reducing Germany’s only chance of a rapid decision, we shall have provided a strong deterrent against her making the attempt.

(c) It follows, therefore, that, from the military point of view, time is in our favour, and that, if war with Germany has to come, it would be better to fight her in say 6-12 months’ time, than to accept the present challenge.

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I honestly have no idea how much this influenced the Munich Pact, but I note that it was signed nine days after this correspondence. 

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  On 12/17/2024 at 3:26 PM, Anastasis said:

That's a pretty good encapsulation of the CR and why people don't take this sub seriously. 

 

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Oh, fuck, randos on the internet don’t take a bunch of posts from other randos on the internet seriously? I didn’t realize we had been tasked with serious bizness. It’s all BS and you continue to be one of the most prolific contributors.

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  On 12/17/2024 at 3:17 PM, Anastasis said:

Like I saide, the stupidest of straw men. 

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  On 12/17/2024 at 3:26 PM, Anastasis said:

That's a pretty good encapsulation of the CR and why people don't take this sub seriously. 

 

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Actually your first post above is why. Insulting other posters while not actually engaging in discussions seems to be a thing for you. 

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  On 12/17/2024 at 5:40 PM, DDD Dad said:

Actually your first post above is why. Insulting other posters while not actually engaging in discussions seems to be a thing for you. 

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You insult your own intelligence by turning the term "the ukraine conflict" into "the ukraine" and then crafting a total straw man around it.  I called the straw man stupid, but that was apparently too generous. 

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  On 12/17/2024 at 6:26 PM, Anastasis said:

You insult your own intelligence by turning the term "the ukraine conflict" into "the ukraine" and then crafting a total straw man around it.  I called the straw man stupid, but that was apparently too generous. 

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Guess I should have had that second cup of coffee. Never mind. 

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  On 12/16/2024 at 9:44 PM, Brisketexan said:

Sydney gets it.

Trump could implement tariffs that plainly and directly bankrupt 50% of Americans, and this will be the messaging:

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I love this though.  "Can you believe Obama is STILL fucking you guys?"  Just dumbfounded silence...

This is great.  His people will suffer more and you all can cry about whatever they blame...but don't lose the key point.  They're still suffering.  That's a win in my book.  Fuck 'em. 

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  On 12/17/2024 at 3:11 PM, The Dog said:

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Federal employee who voted for Trump:

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I’ve met so many government employees that claim to have given up big time “private sector money” to “serve.”  Most of them couldn’t handle the pressure of working at a place that has to make a profit and doesn’t offer a cushy ass retirement after 20 years or so. 

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  On 12/18/2024 at 11:36 AM, Horn Dogg said:

I’ve met so many government employees that claim to have given up big time “private sector money” to “serve.”  Most of them couldn’t handle the pressure of working at a place that has to make a profit and doesn’t offer a cushy ass retirement after 20 years or so. 

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Interesting. When I sold to Civilian departments, most of them were pretty honest about the early retirement/pension being the prime reason they were staying in the lower paying gig. Their pressures were different, not non-existent.

Maybe at the pencil/button-pusher level, people were hiding and wouldn't be able to get into the high stress corporate world, but most people I ran across were SMEs that could lead teams, etc.

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  On 12/18/2024 at 2:55 PM, MissingInAction said:

Ive worked in the public sector a long time. Sometimes in a capacity in which a mistake would cost many lives.

That's pressure. Not trying to hit your quota end of fiscal year.

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  On 12/18/2024 at 3:20 PM, Longhorn94 said:

This idea that "big time" corporate folks are competent and good at their jobs is laughable to anyone who works in or with "big time" corporations.

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Yeah, what he's describing sounds more like working at any large bureaucratic organization, public or private. The pressure he's talking about is more like what you experience working at a small shop of 10-15 people where everyone has real skin in the game to stay afloat.

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In reversal, key House panel votes to release Matt Gaetz ethics report

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/18/politics/matt-gaetz-ethics-report-committee/index.html

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The House Ethics Committee secretly voted earlier this month to release its report into the conduct of former Rep. Matt Gaetz before the end of this Congress, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the matter.

The report is now expected to be made public after the House’s final day of votes this year as lawmakers leave Washington for the holidays, those sources said.

The vote, which has not previously been reported, amounts to a stark reversal for the panel after it had voted along party lines in late November not to release the results of the investigation. The decision to release the report suggests that some Republicans ultimately decided to side with Democrats on the matter, and it is unclear if the committee will once again change course now that it has voted.

When the committee voted last month to shelve the report, Gaetz was President-elect Donald Trump’s choice to be attorney general. Since then, Gaetz withdrew himself from consideration for the Senate-confirmed post, though he maintains frosty relations with many in his party and is still active in GOP politics.

It is exceedingly rare for an ethics report to be released after a member has left Congress, though it has happened on a couple of occasions in the past. The committee revisited the issue behind closed doors earlier this month after a feud over the report spilled into public view before Thanksgiving.

The Ethics Committee’s report concludes a years-long probe into numerous allegations against Gaetz, including whether he engaged in sexual misconduct, used illicit drugs, “shared inappropriate images or videos on the House floor, misused state identification records, converted campaign funds to personal use, and/or accepted a bribe, improper gratuity, or impermissible gifts,” according to an announcement by the panel last summer.

Gaetz did not immediately respond to a request for comment on this story.

Gaetz has vigorously denied all the allegations and has characterized the investigation as a witch-hunt.

Speaker Mike Johnson has said that he does not believe the report should be released, since Gaetz is no longer a member of Congress after he abruptly resigned once Trump announced him as his initial attorney general choice. Johnson has acknowledged he has no role on the operations of the panel, which has traditionally operated separately from leadership. Many lawmakers believed that Gaetz resigned to try to bury the investigation.

Gaetz, who was reelected to the seat last month prior to his resignation, has said he has no plans of returning to Congress next year.

“I’m still going to be in the fight, but it’s going to be from a new perch. I do not intend to join the 119th Congress,” he told Charlie Kirk in an interview last month.

“I’m going to be fighting for President Trump. I’m going to be doing whatever he asks of me, as I always have. But I think that eight years is probably enough time in the United States Congress,” he said.

He also recently announced that he will be joining One America News Network in January.

A spokesman for the committee did not respond to CNN’s request for comment.

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also...the threat of ending up on the front page or in the crosshairs of the legislature is a constant worry, especially in an agency with a political head. and the audits, good lord the audits 😳 

anybody who thinks the public sector is easy and 'cushy' has no idea or real experience. for me, my mate, and most people i worked with, the stress and pressure was very high, especially at an agency like CPA.

not saying there aren't bad employees...but those are literally everywhere. 

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  On 12/18/2024 at 3:48 PM, Brisketexan said:

I've worked with people who were proud to have kept a critical system functioning on a shoestring budget, literally held together in some places with bolts and baling wire, because that's what the public demanded (by the way, the deferred maintenance costs ALWAYS catch up with you eventually, no matter what the public demands).

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oh i see you've worked with a lot of government IT staff! 😄🤨

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  On 12/18/2024 at 4:15 PM, GhostOfTomJoad said:

Corporate or government. Makes no difference. Bureaucracy exists in both arenas.

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The funny thing is bureacuracy was created/implemented ages ago point to cut down on hiring without merit or using familial relations. I've no longer see it as purely bad... sometimes it's very necessary. 

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We can go on forever spinning anecdotes, but I just want to note how impressed I am that HornDogg is able to have a conversation with someone, and from that conversation, gauge a person's ability to work under high pressure situations. Dude should become a life coach or psychologist or something.

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  On 12/18/2024 at 4:44 PM, Nivek said:

I have read so much bullshit from people who overstate the challenges they have to face while simultaneously minimizing the challenges others face. 

But let's get real.  You believed the lie "I am from the government and I am here to help" bullshit and ran with it.  The military, police, roads, sewage, vaccines, education, treaties, building codes, firemen, GPS you use to not get lost, road signs, stop signs, stop lights, zoning so you don't live next to a chemical plant and drink polluted water, that is all from the fucking government you deride while enjoying the benefits of. 

It was the oil industry who turned to the government to ask for regulations to prevent another spindletop situation.  It was the public who cried out for food safety after they read Sinclair's The Jungle.  

 

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Probably could have left police off your list. 

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  On 12/18/2024 at 5:02 PM, Pig Bellmont said:

Don’t worry because we’re intentionally and openly returning to the spoils system as Andrew Jackson intended. Also it turns out Jackson’s presidency is a fantastic analogue for Trump from committing horrific atrocities rounding up minorities, to large scale destabilization of economic policies, and elevating an army of unqualified loyalists to government jobs.
 

The difference being that a democratic administration actually came in and invested in jobs, expanded manufacturing, cooled inflation and the American people said “fuck that responsible governance garbage- the prior guy only just started to irreparably damage everything. Lets do that but without anyone around to tell him no”

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Our only hope is that the house is such a back stabbing shit show out to punish their political rivals they never get around to trying to govern before we get to the mid-terms. 

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  On 12/18/2024 at 7:18 PM, Pescado_Rojo said:

Our only hope is that the house is such a back stabbing shit show out to punish their political rivals they never get around to trying to govern before we get to the mid-terms. 

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I think there is a pretty good shot that this happens.  Especially since the Rs can only lose a few votes.

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  On 12/17/2024 at 3:43 PM, Gatorubet said:

 

This is the conclusion of a note from General Ismay to the British Cabinet sent on 20th September 1938, marked ‘Secret’. Ismay was Secretary of the Committee of Imperial Defense.

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I honestly have no idea how much this influenced the Munich Pact, but I note that it was signed nine days after this correspondence. 

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A) Still does not explain why British Aircraft production in 1939 was so miniscule less than 25% of 1943 output

B) Also does not explain the Halifax appeasement wing on 1940, had the Dunkirk evacuation been a failure, the government of Churchill would have collapsed and Hallifax would have sued for peace. 

There were significantly influential fascists looking to help Hitler during the war in both the US and UK, but since their societies back then were not as easily brainwashed so a plan establish a "Q figure to end pedophilia installing an orange god emperor" plot would have failed. Also they would have been locked up for treason. 

The world will probably end because of social media and talk radio. The idiot found the other idiot and they shared ideas.

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  On 12/19/2024 at 12:04 AM, Bozo_Casanova said:

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Gotta admit, Mr. US-led Rules Based International Order responding with this gif to this post, with emphasis on the consistency part, is pretty fucking hilarious.  Thanks for that. 

  

  On 12/17/2024 at 2:43 PM, Anastasis said:

I have been consistent wrt criticizing our foreign policy and the scope of foreign military aid in general, and wrt Israel in particular, over four different administrations, across parties and across the decades here. You on the other hand, you blow like a feather in the wind. It wasn't always that way with you, but you know where you are.  

WRT Israel, is not often that the US president gets to ride shotgun during an ethnic cleansing operation executed by their closest allie and historically largest recipient of US military aide.

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  On 12/18/2024 at 11:44 PM, Willfully Horn said:

You are a threat to members of my family. US institutions and medical experts have gone rogue? Fuck you. 

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You got posters on this thread that have literally posted that they hope that other posters get to see the life leave their family members eyes while their blood pools around their feet, so spare me the fucking vapors over a critique of the evidence base for certain medical interventions, and a US medical establishment that is increasingly isolated in their approach. 

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  On 12/18/2024 at 9:57 PM, linux said:

A) Still does not explain why British Aircraft production in 1939 was so miniscule less than 25% of 1943 output

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Well, when Hitler took the rest of Czechoslovakia the next spring, they knew it was on. Hell, they declared war on Germany in September.   Why Britain hard time gearing up plane production I have no idea, but by 1939 there was no question there was gonna be a war - because they declared war.

if the alien drones have not already altered the historical documents, I will try to figure out why more planes weren’t produced

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