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11 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

I have, by and large, changed my tune on unions.

I remain somewhat skeptical of government employee unions.  Unlike the private sector, government is not really known for abusing employees, and there are other means that can be used to exert upward wage/benefit pressures.

I'm willing to entertain discussion on it.

It’s scary how much your posts seem like I wrote them. 

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4 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

This week I read an economic outlook paper from a large and widely respected investment firm about how they are thinking about allocation in 2025.  It suggested that a Trump admin might unleash economic growth and optimism based on what he said he would do from a regulatory and bureaucratic standpoint, but also speculated that Trump might not mean what he said he would do with tarrifs and besides, Biden didn’t roll back the last Trump tarrifs on China and that turned out OK, right? 

It’s awfully crowded at the hopium den these days. 

they are betting against all odds he will just be a garden variety Reagan republican. fat fucking chance. even the smart greedy ones were warned but they wouldn't believe it. 

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4 hours ago, Red Five said:

Imagine the intellectual pretzel you would have to twist your mind into, in order to say "I'm voting for the twice impeached convicted felon and sex offender, because I don't believe he'll do the terrible things he says he will do." 

Honestly I think you described 40 million of his voters 

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4 hours ago, HOOKEM4 said:

The level of politically uneducated folks we have in this country is astounding. These are college educated stem folks. 

Yeah but you should have asked them how to triple-class a Wyvern Bard-Rogue with an effective and completely legal free set of Paladin abilities simply by tuning the mirth-crystal inside a jester-lute. Things you never dreamed of in your vanilla TSR "classic-three-books" dorm time, Old Man...

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This week I read an economic outlook paper from a large and widely respected investment firm about how they are thinking about allocation in 2025.  It suggested that a Trump admin might unleash economic growth and optimism based on what he said he would do from a regulatory and bureaucratic standpoint, but also speculated that Trump might not mean what he said he would do with tarrifs and besides, Biden didn’t roll back the last Trump tarrifs on China and that turned out OK, right? 

It’s awfully crowded at the hopium den these days. 

Remember last time around when everyone was thinking hoping Jared and Ivanka were going to be the sane ones and keep tfg inside the rails?

Turns out it was guys like Milley, who won’t be able to get within 100 yards of the White House now.
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48 minutes ago, softlynow said:

Messaging is what they dominate at doing. 

It was facetious. There's virtually no way any Trump voter can claim they didn't vote for a candidate that campaigned on tariffs. It wasn't some hidden agenda. The point being there's an significant chunk of the voting public that will believe what they want to believe regardless of what a candidate says or how they say it. 

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13 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

No, the GOP is great at messaging.  What  helps is a compliant media ecosystem, combined with social media platforms that only inform the electorate of selective messaging.

 

 

 

 

The media and MAGA social media platforms didn't cover Trump rallies where Trump championed tariffs?

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2 hours ago, TexArcher said:

They just can't believe that a guy with a 50-year trail of fucking people over is fucking them over.

Watching this develop is the silver lining and I am here for it.

Find out, idiots.

If they still teach history in the future, this period of American history is going to seem so fucking bizarre. 

"Wait, they did what? On purpose? Like, everyone knew who he was and he still got 80 million votes? Again?"

"Yeah you got me man. Anyway...."

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3 hours ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

A friend of ours is a pilot w/ Parks and Wildlife. His wife works for Texas H&HS. They have over 60 years combined as state employees. They're Trumpkins to the core, including posting a video of themselves doing the YMCA dance during dotard's inauguration.

Dotard's asinine response to the deadly crash in DC has made the wife VERY upset. In the most Karen of all moves, she wrote cheeto dick a sternly worded post on his presidential Facebook page, letting him know that even though they've voted for him every time and support everything he does, his blaming of the ATC is a bridge too far and he needs to do better.

We don't really socialize with them anymore. We'll occasionally end up at the same restaurant or brewery by happenstance. It's been remarkably easy to cut these people out of our lives.

 

Not enough pain for them. Yet. These government employees need to lose their jobs.

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2 minutes ago, Slacks said:

What's the cutoff? Asking for a friend who has a face.

per adam smith, 500 men must be poor so that one man can be rich. which means if you're not in the top 0.2% of wealth you're a poor. and looking at the chart of wealth in this country where there's basically a slow ramp from negative on the left side to about the 90th percentile on the right side, and then a bit of increasing curvature over the next few percent, and then you get way over to the right and it's just a line straight up and off the chart, that seems about right.

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13 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I'm dead serious when I say this....

Within weeks people on the right will be saying it's their patriotic duty to pay higher prices.

Well, he’s also going to tell them if there’s no future elections - then nobody has to send him any more money to beat the liberals and their vote changing machines.  

no more elections =  MAGA voter profit $

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20 minutes ago, Red Five said:

If they still teach history in the future, this period of American history is going to seem so fucking bizarre. 

"Wait, they did what? On purpose? Like, everyone knew who he was and he still got 80 million votes? Again?"

"Yeah you got me man. Anyway...."

Fortunately, the climate will kill us all off in about 30 years so we won't carry this shame too far into history.

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9 minutes ago, GenXer said:

Not enough pain for them. Yet. These government employees need to lose their jobs.

On his last day in office, Brandon signed a non-rescindable executive order giving my jerb to a trans illegal fentanyl mule, but the order was not effective until after our savior DJT took over. DEI!!1! Do something!!!

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2 hours ago, Red Five said:

If they still teach history in the future, this period of American history is going to seem so fucking bizarre. 

"Wait, they did what? On purpose? Like, everyone knew who he was and he still got 80 million votes? Again?"

"Yeah you got me man. Anyway...."

I’m not sure that slang is how the Chinese speak but maybe..

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This week I read an economic outlook paper from a large and widely respected investment firm about how they are thinking about allocation in 2025.  It suggested that a Trump admin might unleash economic growth and optimism based on what he said he would do from a regulatory and bureaucratic standpoint, but also speculated that Trump might not mean what he said he would do with tarrifs and besides, Biden didn’t roll back the last Trump tarrifs on China and that turned out OK, right? 

It’s awfully crowded at the hopium den these days. 

Yep. I have come to really chuckle at the nearly daily releases of pieces from the Economist, which are uniformly some version of “Trump-favored policy X could be a boon for the American people/economy, if executed wisely.”
The “if” in every single one of these pieces is doing some Olympic-level heavy lifting.
The REAL piece needs to be “it doesn’t matter what the policy is, Trump can’t effectively execute it in a way that yields a good outcome.” I don’t care what idea/policy you’re taking about, if the person executing it has a record of repeatedly shooting himself and everyone else in the dick, then THAT is your story.
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The media and MAGA social media platforms didn't cover Trump rallies where Trump championed tariffs?

Sure they did, but they did NOTHING to dispel the Trump explanation of what tariffs are. These disgruntled Trump voters aren’t surprised that he is imposing tariffs. They are surprised by what that actually means.

Do you not recall him, for the last 8+ years referring to us making money from China paying tariffs to us?
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On 1/31/2025 at 10:47 AM, TwiceHorn said:

I have, by and large, changed my tune on unions.

I remain somewhat skeptical of government employee unions.  Unlike the private sector, government is not really known for abusing employees, and there are other means that can be used to exert upward wage/benefit pressures.

I'm willing to entertain discussion on it.

The federal government seems to treat their employees ok. The Trump administration seems to be trying to change that. Most state governments treat their employees like shit.

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1 hour ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

What you're describing doesn't sound like what's going on in this post. 

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Played golf with a Trumper yesterday. He tried every couple holes to bait the rest of us into a discussion about how quickly Trump has been winning. Apparently the fentanyl problem is finished, the corrupt blue states are close to being brought to heel and the Dems who stole the money appropriated for new reservoirs in Cali are about to be indicted.

The real pain hasn’t begun yet, and most of his people will need to feel it for months if not years before they’ll question their new god. 

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10 minutes ago, softlynow said:

Played golf with a Trumper yesterday. He tried every couple holes to bait the rest of us into a discussion about how quickly Trump has been winning. Apparently the fentanyl problem is finished, the corrupt blue states are close to being brought to heel and the Dems who stole the money appropriated for new reservoirs in Cali are about to be indicted.

The real pain hasn’t begun yet, and most of his people will need to feel it for months if not years before they’ll question their new god. 

 

I think most of them will never, ever question it.  They will slowly become convinced that deporting all Muslims is necessary for national security, and so is leaving NATO, and so is expanding our territory, by force if necessary, and whatever else the Bannons and Millers come up with.  Fox News will help the average Trumpkin become the average German from circa 1938 and they won't even notice.

 

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I think most of them will never, ever question it.  They will slowly become convinced that deporting all Muslims is necessary for national security, and so is leaving NATO, and so is expanding our territory, by force if necessary, and whatever else the Bannons and Millers come up with.  Fox News will help the average Trumpkin become the average German from circa 1938 and they won't even notice.
 

“Will?” Dude…we’re already there.
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17 minutes ago, softlynow said:

Played golf with a Trumper yesterday. He tried every couple holes to bait the rest of us into a discussion about how quickly Trump has been winning. Apparently the fentanyl problem is finished, the corrupt blue states are close to being brought to heel and the Dems who stole the money appropriated for new reservoirs in Cali are about to be indicted.

The real pain hasn’t begun yet, and most of his people will need to feel it for months if not years before they’ll question their new god. 

You should have "accidentally" bladed a wedge from just off the green and into his nut sack the second time he tried baiting y'all. Or just gone with the obvious "I don't respect or trust anyone who cheats at golf the way that fat fuck does" and leave him be.

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11 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

 

I think most of them will never, ever question it.  They will slowly become convinced that deporting all Muslims is necessary for national security, and so is leaving NATO, and so is expanding our territory, by force if necessary, and whatever else the Bannons and Millers come up with.  Fox News will help the average Trumpkin become the average German from circa 1938 and they won't even notice.

 

The true Trumpers? Yep. The other 10% or so that just vote R because taxes and regulations, those will see their wallets empty and finally get angry. 

I’m not sure it will matter, though, once the Musk administration has put their folks at the top of the military, they can simply ignore the constitution at will. Then hold a sham constitutional convention which completes the coup.

My point above is a few tweets and man on the street quotes are mere trifles. Nothing has changed yet, and I agree it probably will not. 

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4 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

You should have "accidentally" bladed a wedge from just off the green and into his nut sack the second time he tried baiting y'all. Or just gone with the obvious "I don't respect or trust anyone who cheats at golf the way that fat fuck does" and leave him be.

With my short game, it’s likely to happen anyway. Maybe next time.

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I spoke with my father yesterday.  He thinks we are headed for prosperity with the new administration.  (Apparently, not investing has helped him not see the rewards of the Biden administration.)  But he did impress me insofar that he understands who pays the tariff.  He tried to talk commodities about the price of oil and his understanding was even worse.  But I had to simplify it even further.  If Mexico sells apples here for $1.  And America sells apples here for $1.  If we add the 25% tariff to Mexican goods the Mexican apples are now $1.25.  He was here following along.  But when I stated that as the American Apple guy, I raise my price to $1.25 and get to reap more profit.  This part he was able to follow along but it surprised him completely that a company would do that.    

The idea that oil costs more to produce in one region or another based on geologic factors (and transportation) is well beyond him.   

He used to be smart.  Fox/OANN/NEWSMAX and talk radio has corrupted his brain.  I am less credible talking about oil and gas than a talking head who never stepped foot on a site, couldn't identify a sandking from a blender. 

 

This man raised me to have values he has abandoned.   They have no idea that Trump is fucking with the FDIC as well.   That could lead to more issues and uncertainty in markets, but I guess when you don't have shit in them, you think it doesn't impact you.  Until it does. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Mexico sells apples here for $1.  And America sells apples here for $1.  If we add the 25% tariff to Mexican goods the Mexican apples are now $1.25.  He was here following along.  But when I stated that as the American Apple guy, I raise my price to $1.25 and get to reap more profit.

I guess the response could be something like the American apple already costs 1.30 because the costs of growing it here are higher, so low instead of the 1.30 American apple having to compete with the 1.00 Mexican apple it is competing with the 1.25 Mexican apple. 
 

but of course even if that were true the winner is the American business owner and the losers are the Mexican business owner and the American people who now don’t have the lower cost alternative. 

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2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I guess the response could be something like the American apple already costs 1.30 because the costs of growing it here are higher, so low instead of the 1.30 American apple having to compete with the 1.00 Mexican apple it is competing with the 1.25 Mexican apple. 
 

but of course even if that were true the winner is the American business owner and the losers are the Mexican business owner and the American people who now don’t have the lower cost alternative. 

I wasn't going to make it that complex.  he watches newsmax.

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